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Harry Krause September 29th 04 01:32 AM

Doug Kanter wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...


Chuck, where in the plan is there any mention of instituting a draft in

2005, or
any year for that matter?


Remember how, in the past, I told you that you should read big boy news
sources? Here we go again! If you read those sources, you'd know that the
armed forces are experiencing great difficulty in recruiting new corpses.
The "free college" ruse doesn't work any more, since it became clear that
your president needed more bodies to use as sandbags in his Great War.



Indeed, anyone who talks to a military "recruiter" should then be
required to talk to someone who speaks the truth about what the military
recruiter said. I'm amazed Whoring doesn't work as a volunteer
recruiter...he's got just the mindset needed to lie to impressionable
and not too bright young guys.



--
We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the
son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of
them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and
incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah.

What, me worry?

P. Fritz September 29th 04 03:20 AM


"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On 28 Sep 2004 15:51:32 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

Indeed, Bush has done nothing significant to help the 43 million
Americans without access to health insurance, and most of these folks

do
not have access to decent health care, either. Another area where Bush
failed.


Hey, this is America, not Russia. Those lazy n'er-do-wells who don't

have
health insurance should just get a second, or third job, or as many as

it takes
to earn the money to pay for it. Or go without. Whoever promised these

people a
free ride?

(My wife and I have contemplated retirement. We're in our early to

mid-50's.
One of the spoilers is health insurance.
In our state, coverage for the two of us would approach $1400 a month,

and
continue to go up each year as we age. Easily done if either one of us

is
working- but what sort of retirement would it be with one spouse

working? How
many burger flippers can afford $1400 a month?)

While we're at it, we need to review our minimum wage laws. Why

shouldn't the
free market set salaries and wages? If I can find somebody desparate

enough to
work for $2.75 an hour, I should be able to pay that little, (and bill

their
time at $75).
Until we drive our expendable working class into the same kind of

poverty and
deprivation they experience in India, Thailand, etc, how are we ever

going to
sustain corporate profits and still compete with the products we import

from
overseas?


And just think, over three million a year are coming across our southern

border
just to increase the rolls of the uninsured.


So many distortions.........the vast majority of the '43 mil' uninsured
are unisured by choice, NOT because they cannot afford it.

$1400 a month premiums are a result of wanting a next to nothing
deductible, and everything under the sun paid for. My insurance costs me
$120 a month.



John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!




Eisboch September 29th 04 04:44 AM

P. Fritz wrote:


$1400 a month premiums are a result of wanting a next to nothing
deductible, and everything under the sun paid for. My insurance costs me
$120 a month.



Yep. Major medical coverage was affordable until the advent of the HMO
back in the late 70's - early 80's. Now we have $500 bottles of cough
syrup for jr's stuffy nose because "insurance" covers it.

Eisboch

Gould 0738 September 29th 04 04:45 AM

$1400 a month premiums are a result of wanting a next to nothing
deductible, and everything under the sun paid for. My insurance costs me
$120 a month.


How much does your employer pay in addition to your $120? Do you go to a vet?

$1400 premiums ($700 @) get you$1000 annual deductibles, $25 co-pays for office
calls, no dental or vision coverage, $100 annual prescription deductible and
then $25 deductible per perscription.

Looks like I am possibly coming down with MS, which might even make us
ineligible for insurance of any kind, so moot point.


Short Wave Sportfishing September 29th 04 11:49 AM

On 29 Sep 2004 03:45:52 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

$1400 a month premiums are a result of wanting a next to nothing
deductible, and everything under the sun paid for. My insurance costs me
$120 a month.


How much does your employer pay in addition to your $120? Do you go to a vet?

$1400 premiums ($700 @) get you$1000 annual deductibles, $25 co-pays for office
calls, no dental or vision coverage, $100 annual prescription deductible and
then $25 deductible per perscription.

Looks like I am possibly coming down with MS, which might even make us
ineligible for insurance of any kind, so moot point.


You need to find out NOW about that.

I went through a whole MS scan - spent the worst six months of my life
being poked, prodded and worked over like a Christmas turkey and you
know what?

It was a low level ear infection.

The odd thing was one of my kids said to do the test first - it was
the only way to tell.

~~sigh ~~

Get the spinal tap test ASAP - it's the only way to tell for sure if
you do or don't.

Trust me on this.

Later,

Tom
-----------
"Angling may be said to be so
like the mathematics that it
can never be fully learnt..."

Izaak Walton "The Compleat Angler", 1653

JimH September 29th 04 12:11 PM


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
$1400 a month premiums are a result of wanting a next to nothing
deductible, and everything under the sun paid for. My insurance costs me
$120 a month.


How much does your employer pay in addition to your $120? Do you go to a
vet?

$1400 premiums ($700 @) get you$1000 annual deductibles, $25 co-pays for
office
calls, no dental or vision coverage, $100 annual prescription deductible
and
then $25 deductible per perscription.

Looks like I am possibly coming down with MS, which might even make us
ineligible for insurance of any kind, so moot point.


I am sincerely sorry to hear that Chuck. When did the symptoms first
appear?



Taco Heaven September 29th 04 02:49 PM

Gould,
I hope you find out that this is not true. One thing that is in your favor
is that MS normally appears between the ages of 20 to 40. I have RA and
have found that keeping stress out of my life has minimized the flare up. I
still have situations that could cause stress, but I don't worry about them.
I control the controllables and leave the rest up to a higher authority.

"God, grant me the Serenity to accept the things I cannot change, Courage to
change the things I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference."

Hope you get some good news soon, as the unknown can be extremely stressful.



"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
$1400 a month premiums are a result of wanting a next to nothing
deductible, and everything under the sun paid for. My insurance costs me
$120 a month.


How much does your employer pay in addition to your $120? Do you go to a
vet?

$1400 premiums ($700 @) get you$1000 annual deductibles, $25 co-pays for
office
calls, no dental or vision coverage, $100 annual prescription deductible
and
then $25 deductible per perscription.

Looks like I am possibly coming down with MS, which might even make us
ineligible for insurance of any kind, so moot point.




Gould 0738 September 29th 04 04:53 PM

Gould,
I hope you find out that this is not true. One thing that is in your favor
is that MS normally appears between the ages of 20 to 40.


I'll know more maybe today.

I've had shaky hands for 20 years. If I am holding or hanging on to something,
no problem. I got to the point where I didn't notice it, but my wife has said
for the longest time, "you should go in and find out why you shake so much."
Being a typical guy, I went to the doctor 3-4 times between 20 -45 years of
age, whether I really needed to, or not.

This year I fell down.One day my leg just "wasn't there" and over I went. It
was pretty funny. No big deal, I thought. A month or so ago, my hands and feet
started tingling, and my right foot feels "numb" much of the time.
I figured it was circulation, (diabetes runs in the family), and saw the doctor
last week. He ran some tests, said my circlatory system was fine and that it
isn't diabetes. My MD said it's almost definitely
peripheral neuropathy, and suspects there may be more than that going on. He
made an appointment for me with a neurologist, who saw me the very quickly,
yesterday.

The neurologist did some tests, and said my nerves have a problem detecting
vibration (leads to balance problems) and heat/cold. Some of the test were
similar to the "drunk" tests the cops give people suspected of DUI. Close your
eyes and touch your finger to your nose, walk heel and toe across the office
floor, (I almost toppled over on that one), etc. He sent me directly to the
hospital for an MRI.

The MRI was a challenge. I am absolutely claustrophobic. Image having a cage
placed around your head, and then your whole body stuffed into a "torpedo
tube".
No room to move, at all. Insufficient air for breathing. The top of the tube is
inches from your face as you lay there on your back. A brain scan takes 15
minutes. The MRI doctor shoved me into the tube and said, "Are you going to be
alright?"

"Heck no! Pull me back out! Right away, please!"

Once back out where there was some air,
the MRI doctor said he wouldn't charge me for trying. He said that many people
just can't endure the MRI tube, and that I shouldn't feel badly.

Maybe because I had already experienced going in and being pulled back out, I
was able to overcome my subconscious fear with some conscious reasoning, and I
"talked myself" into going back into the tube. The doctor said we could call it
off anytime during the prodecure that I wasn't comfortable. For the first
thirty seconds I was still terrified, but something I learned years ago took
over, and I mentally "moved" to a place where it was very light, there was
plenty of air, and I was weightless so there was no compelling desire to move.
(The MRI doctor was pretty surprised at how peacefully I endured the procedure,
as was I). He asked me, about halfway through, if I was still willing to
continue and I remember saying, "It's OK now, I'm not stuck in the tube, so
finish up." Next time I have to face a phobia, I'll try the same trick. I
recommend it for those who can do it, it works extremely well. (The last few
trips to the dentist, I've used a similar technique in dental chair and now
generally avoid anesthetics for
fillings, etc).

The MRI doctor isn't allowed to discuss the results of the scan, but my biggest
fear was a brain tumor. I asked the MRI doctor
if he saw any sign of tumor. He said, "You will need to have your neurologist
read these images, but I think you can bet the farm he isn't going to say
you've got a tumor." That's good news.

Aside from your personal inquiry and good wish, how does this relate to
rec.boats? Following that MRI, I'll be one of the few posters here who can
mount, actual, scientific evidence that yes, indeed, I do have a brain. :-)



Harry Krause September 29th 04 04:55 PM

Gould 0738 wrote:


The MRI doctor isn't allowed to discuss the results of the scan, but my biggest
fear was a brain tumor. I asked the MRI doctor
if he saw any sign of tumor. He said, "You will need to have your neurologist
read these images, but I think you can bet the farm he isn't going to say
you've got a tumor." That's good news.

Aside from your personal inquiry and good wish, how does this relate to
rec.boats? Following that MRI, I'll be one of the few posters here who can
mount, actual, scientific evidence that yes, indeed, I do have a brain. :-)


Damn you...you'd better be ok or I'll really be ****ed at you.


--
We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the
son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of
them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and
incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah.

What, me worry?

Taco Heaven September 29th 04 05:05 PM


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...

Aside from your personal inquiry and good wish, how does this relate to
rec.boats? Following that MRI, I'll be one of the few posters here who can
mount, actual, scientific evidence that yes, indeed, I do have a brain.
:-)


LOL, it is good to see you are keeping your humor. FYI, if you ever have to
have a MRI again, they now have "Open MRI". I don't have claustrophobia,
but because of RA I was not able to hold my arm in the proper position in
the closed MRI. The scan on my elbow took 45 min. to complete. In the open
MRI the field is only enclosed on the top and bottom of the area they want
to scan, and one side is always open. I actually slept through the
procedure.

On a serious note, if you find out discussion stressful I would prefer not
to add to your stress level.




Doug Kanter September 29th 04 05:21 PM


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
$1400 a month premiums are a result of wanting a next to nothing
deductible, and everything under the sun paid for. My insurance costs

me
$120 a month.


How much does your employer pay in addition to your $120? Do you go to a

vet?

$1400 premiums ($700 @) get you$1000 annual deductibles, $25 co-pays for

office
calls, no dental or vision coverage, $100 annual prescription deductible

and
then $25 deductible per perscription.

Looks like I am possibly coming down with MS, which might even make us
ineligible for insurance of any kind, so moot point.


Chuck, my sister was diagnosed with MS about 6 years ago. She's been
involved with some experimental treatments through a doctor at the State
University of NY-Stonybrook (Long Island) and the results have been
promising. I don't know the specifics, but if you ever get the feeling
you're not getting the best advice or treatment, let me know and I can find
out more. Perhaps her doctor knows someone out West who's following along
with the research.



Gould 0738 September 29th 04 05:24 PM

Chuck, my sister was diagnosed with MS about 6 years ago.

They're still trying to figure out exactly what I've got. MS is one of the more
serious possibilities, but I'd lke to believe it is something else.

Doug Kanter September 29th 04 06:08 PM


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Chuck, my sister was diagnosed with MS about 6 years ago.


They're still trying to figure out exactly what I've got. MS is one of the

more
serious possibilities, but I'd lke to believe it is something else.


Hanging around this dive and arguing with putzes is enough to cause
neurological damage.



Taco Heaven September 29th 04 06:12 PM


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Hanging around this dive and arguing with putzes is enough to cause
neurological damage.


That must explain why I have been twitching and jerking for the last 2 days.
; )



basskisser September 30th 04 01:11 PM

"Taco Heaven" wrote in message news:s2C6d.138053$D%.35247@attbi_s51...
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Hanging around this dive and arguing with putzes is enough to cause
neurological damage.


That must explain why I have been twitching and jerking for the last 2 days.
; )


Not to worry, most people who have read your ramblings suspect you of
having brain damage.

P.Fritz September 30th 04 08:15 PM


"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 00:29:43 GMT, "Doug Kanter"


wrote:

"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .


Chuck, where in the plan is there any mention of instituting a draft in

2005, or
any year for that matter?


Remember how, in the past, I told you that you should read big boy news
sources? Here we go again! If you read those sources, you'd know that the
armed forces are experiencing great difficulty in recruiting new corpses.
The "free college" ruse doesn't work any more, since it became clear that
your president needed more bodies to use as sandbags in his Great War.


Please cite a reference that shows the active forces having a difficult

time
meeting their goals. The reference should be from a source with knowledge,

not
some lying journalist.


The armed forces are meeting their recruiting goals
From the AP

"The Navy, Marine Corps and Air Force all met or exceeded their 2004
recruiting targets, although the Navy and Air Force had less ambitious goals
because their services are shrinking. The Army is the only one of the major
services that is expanding its ranks. "

"The active-duty Army exceeded its recruiting target of 77,000 soldiers by
587, and the Army Reserve exceeded its goal of 21,200 by 78, said Doug
Smith, spokesman for Army Recruiting Command. The Army's recruiting year
ended Monday; the other services finish theirs Friday. "

"The only sector of the Army that fell short was the National Guard. Its
final figures will not be calculated until Friday, but the Guard's chief,
Lt. Gen. H. Steven Blum, said last week that he would fall about 5,000
enlistees short of the Guard's recruiting target of 56,000. It was the first
time in 10 years that the National Guard missed its target. "




John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

There are only 10 kinds of people in the world,
those who understand binary and those
who don't!




Gould 0738 October 1st 04 12:14 AM

What, pray tell, has Kerry said he would do to fix the problem?

John H


When you've got a really awful manager you fire him. HIs successor sholdn't be
asked to *prove* he can do better before he's given the chance.

Taco Heaven October 1st 04 12:29 AM

When a manager is being hired to fix a problem, he normally is either asked,
or has a history of solving similar problems.

What are some of Kerry's major achievements in the senate?

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
What, pray tell, has Kerry said he would do to fix the problem?

John H


When you've got a really awful manager you fire him. HIs successor
sholdn't be
asked to *prove* he can do better before he's given the chance.




Gould 0738 October 1st 04 01:00 AM

What are some of Kerry's major achievements in the senate?

You asked for it:

(from johnkerry.com)

John Kerry compiled an impressive record of accomplishment during his career in
the United States Senate. During his two decades of service, he fought for
fiscal discipline, expanded children's health care, fought to put 100,000 more
cops on America's streets, and worked with Senator John McCain (R-AZ) to
investigate the fate of American POW/MIAs and help soldiers suffering from
exposure to Agent Orange.
As chairman of the Senate Small Business Committee, John Kerry stood up for
Americans who own and work for small businesses and fought for a level playing
field in today's competitive global economy. In 19 years of service on the
Senate Foreign Relations Committee - including a term as chairman of the
Subcommittee on Terrorism, Narcotics and International Operations - John Kerry
distinguished himself as one of our nation's most respected experts on national
security issues and a leader in fighting terrorism and preventing the spread of
nuclear weapons.

Putting principle ahead of partisanship, John Kerry worked with his Republican
colleagues on important issues like balancing the budget and keeping government
spending under control. And with a firm dedication to expanding and
strengthening the middle class, he fought for an America that fulfills its
great promise - that gives hard-working Americans the opportunity to build a
better life for themselves and their families.


Building a Stronger Economy
Making America Safer
Expanding and Improving Health Care for All Americans
Making America More Respected in the World
Other Important Accomplishments

Building a Stronger Economy
Crossed Party Lines to Support a Balanced Budget and Cast the Decisive Vote to
Create 23 Million New Jobs. Shortly after joining the Senate, John Kerry
crossed party lines to bring fiscal discipline back to Washington.


Fought for Gramm-Rudman-Hollings, Deficit Reduction Act, Balanced Budget Act.
John Kerry cosponsored and voted for the landmark Gramm-Rudman-Hollings
balanced budget and deficit reduction bill to end runaway deficits. In 1993,
John Kerry supported the Deficit Reduction Act, which put America back on track
toward a balanced budget and fiscal discipline. John Kerry's vote reduced the
deficit and resulted in the creation of 23 million new jobs. John Kerry also
voted for the historic 1997 Balanced Budget Act, which dramatically reduced
spending and balanced the budget for the first time in a generation.
Helped Increase the Minimum Wage. John Kerry was instrumental in passing the
most recent increase in the minimum wage - to $5.15 per hour in 1997.

Fought for the Child Tax Credit. John Kerry led a successful fight for an
amendment he introduced to make sure that all working families receive a child
tax credit.

Stood Up for Small Business. As chairman of the Senate Small Business
Committee, John Kerry promoted policies to increase access to capital, open
international markets, foster innovative technology companies, reduce red tape
and increase federal contracting opportunities. He also created and improved
the MicroLoan program, expanded the successful nationwide Women's Business
Centers (WBC) and loan programs that help the small businesses of reservists
stay afloat while they are on active duty.

Making America Safer
Fought For 100,000 Additional Cops on the Street. As a former prosecutor, John
Kerry understands the importance of strong law enforcement. That's why he led
the fight to add police on our streets through his amendment to the 1993 Crime
Control bill. John Kerry's amendment provided for $150 million to hire 100,000
new police officers - a measure widely regarded as having helped to lower the
crime rate across the country.

Fought to Modernize and Strengthen America's Military. John Kerry has supported
over $4 trillion in defense funding and has supported virtually every
successful weapons system in use by today's military. In 2002, John Kerry voted
for the largest increase in defense spending since the 1980's. And because John
Kerry understands that our national security begins with the men and women who
risk their lives to protect it, he has supported pay increases, benefit
increases, and quality-of-life improvements for America's men and women in
uniform throughout his career.

Fought Global Terrorism. John Kerry introduced critical legislation for
cracking down on international laundering of terrorist funds. He was one of the
key architects of anti-money-laundering provisions in the Patriot Act designed
to deny financing for terrorists, and he has consistently used these provisions
to press the Bush administration to crack down on terrorist financing
activities by Syria and Saudi Arabia. He introduced a bill to ban arms exports
to countries that provide support for acts of international terrorism, a
proposal that was incorporated into the final 1990 State Department
Authorization Bill.

Made the Homeland More Secure. John Kerry was an original co-sponsor of the
Aviation and Transportation Security Act of 2001, which improved our nation's
airline security after September 11th. He also helped pass legislation in
response to September 11th that placed armed Coast Guard personnel on high-risk
vehicles such as oil and gas tankers as they enter port.

Worked to Prevent the Spread of Nuclear, Biological and Chemical Weapons. John
Kerry has made preventing the spread of nuclear weapons a top priority. He
fought for ratification of the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty, fought
against withdrawal from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, and has been a
strong and persistent advocate of programs that help secure nuclear, biological
and chemical weapons stockpiles and materials in the former Soviet Union so
they do not fall into the hands of hostile states or terrorists.

Expanding and Improving Health Care
for All Americans
A Leader in Expanding Access and Lowering the Cost of Health Care for America's
Children. John Kerry was there at the beginning of the fight to provide the
largest investment in children's health care since the creation of Medicaid.


Wrote Pre-Cursor Bill to S-CHIP, Providing Coverage for up to 5 Million
Children. John Kerry's 1996 bill, the Healthy Children, Family Assistance
Health Insurance Program, was the precursor to the successful State Children's
Health Insurance Program (S-CHIP) that became law in 1997. S-CHIP provides
funding to cover 5 million children.
Improved Coverage and Care for America's Veterans. John Kerry has been a
tireless champion of mandatory funding for veterans' health care. He fought
vigorously for full funding of Veterans Administration (VA) health care and
opposed the Bush administration's exclusion of Priority 8 veterans and its
elimination of VA outreach efforts. He sought improved prescription drug
benefits and authored legislation in 2003 to let veterans fill prescriptions
written by non-VA doctors through the VA pharmacy.

Improved Post-Natal Care. John Kerry co-sponsored an amendment that
successfully required health care plans to provide coverage for a minimum
hospital stay for a mother and child following the birth of the child.

Fought HIV/AIDS. John Kerry was among the earliest supporters of the Ryan White
Comprehensive AIDS Resources Emergency (CARE) Act, which today is the largest
discretionary federal investment in treatment and support services for
individuals and families living with HIV or AIDS. Today, 533,000 Americans with
HIV/AIDS receive better treatment through this program.

Addressed America's Nursing Shortage. John Kerry wrote the Nurse Reinvestment
Act to help relieve a nationwide, crisis-level shortage of registered nurses by
encouraging more young people to choose a career in nursing. Today, enrollment
rates at undergraduate nursing programs are up by 17 percent.

Making America More Respected
in the World
Helped Spread Democracy and Human Rights Throughout the World. John Kerry was a
leading advocate for democratic elections in the Philippines, serving as an
elections monitor as part of a Senate delegation that uncovered the fraud that
led to the ouster of President Ferdinand Marcos. He was a strong proponent of
U.S. participation in the NATO intervention that put an end to the ethnic
cleansing in Kosovo. He worked with the United Nations and Cambodian government
officials to facilitate the creation of the genocide tribunal in Cambodia that
will prosecute key members of the Khmer Rouge. He sponsored the Code of Conduct
of Arms Transfers Act, which prohibited U.S. military assistance and arms
transfers to nations that do not adequately protect the human rights of their
citizens. And he co-sponsored bipartisan legislation which imposed sanctions on
Burma's military regime for detaining Aung San Suu Kyi and repressing her
National League for Democracy party.

Fought Global HIV/AIDS. John Kerry authored major elements of the Global AIDS
and Tuberculosis Relief Act of 2000, legislation which at the time provided the
most money ever for fighting AIDS, malaria and tuberculosis around the world.
He sponsored the bipartisan U.S. Leadership Against HIV/AIDS, Tuberculosis, and
Malaria Act of 2002, comprehensive legislation that was unanimously approved by
the Senate and became the foundation of the global AIDS legislation that was
passed by congress and signed by President Bush.

Fought International Crime, Corruption and Drug Trafficking. John Kerry chaired
the landmark hearings that uncovered the Bank of Credit and Commerce
International (BCCI) scandal - the largest banking corruption scandal in modern
times. He led hearings which provided evidence that Haitian military officials
were involved in drug trafficking to the United States. He also led hearings on
corruption and drug trafficking by Panamanian dictator Manuel Noriega, and
introduced legislation requiring the Reagan administration to cut off foreign
aid to Panama because of drug-related corruption within its government.

Uncovered Government Corruption. John Kerry went on a fact-finding mission to
Nicaragua and presented his findings to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
Based in part on John Kerry's groundbreaking findings, the committee reached a
consensus decision to investigate the Contra guerillas and their connection to
drug trafficking in the United States. The resulting investigation uncovered
the Iran-Contra scandal, a scheme that diverted profits from illegal arms sales
to Iran to support the Contra guerilla fighters in Nicaragua.

Other Important Accomplishments
Took on the Task of Investigating POW/MIA Issues. John Kerry and John McCain
"doggedly investigated" an important and volatile issue which some described as
an "unglamorous task that nobody else wanted." Regarding the investigation,
John McCain said, "John Kerry handled the chairmanship of that committee with
tremendous skill." In 1994, John Kerry sponsored an amendment with McCain that
urged the American government to lift its 25-year trade embargo with Vietnam.
He then worked closely with McCain and President Clinton to facilitate full
normalization of trade and diplomatic relations with Vietnam.

Fought to Help Victims of Agent Orange. Beginning more than 15 years ago, John
Kerry introduced legislation to assist veterans in receiving medical
compensation after being exposed to the toxic chemical Agent Orange. John Kerry
even testified before Congress to force the government to care for Vietnam
veterans. John Kerry's bill, the Comprehensive Agent Orange Scientific Evidence
Review Act, sought to require that the Veterans Administration(VA) look into
the "health effects of exposure" to Agent Orange. John Kerry also voted to pass
the Agent Orange Act of 1991 and the Veterans' Agent Orange Exposure and
Vietnam Service Benefits Act of 1989.

Fought to Protect America's Environment. John Kerry has been described by the
League of Conservation Voters as an "environmental champion." He introduced
legislation to improve standards for clean air and establish a fund to finance
emissions reductions. He secured millions of dollars in funding to clean
America's waterways, harbors, and drinking water, worked to strengthen the Safe
Drinking Water Act, and introduced legislation in 1996 to ensure "protection in
the quality of our water." He sponsored legislation that extended and
strengthened laws protecting marine mammals from commercial fishing. He helped
protect America's National Parks and National Forests from pollution, excessive
logging, and overdevelopment while ensuring that endangered species are
preserved for all Americans to experience. He has opposed opening the Arctic
National Wildlife Refuge to drilling for over a decade, ensuring that future
generations can experience this national treasure. He strongly advocated for
U.S. participation in the Kyoto accords and other international environmental
initiatives, and personally participated in many major world environmental
summits, including conferences at Rio di Janiero, Kyoto and the Hague.

Fought for America's Veterans. John Kerry has been a tireless champion of
mandatory funding for veterans' health care. He fought vigorously for full
funding of VA health care and opposed the Bush administration's exclusion of
Priority 8 veterans and its elimination of VA outreach efforts. He sought
improved prescription drug benefits and authored legislation in 2003 to let
veterans fill prescriptions written by non-VA doctors through the VA pharmacy.
As chairman of the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs, John Kerry
investigated the fate of missing American soldiers in Vietnam and brought about
the resolution of this difficult issue for their families and for the
governments of both countries. In 1994, he sponsored an amendment with Senator
McCain that urged the American government to lift its 25-year trade embargo
with Vietnam. He then worked closely with Senator McCain and President Clinton
to facilitate full normalization of trade and diplomatic relations with
Vietnam.

Stood Up for America's Children. John Kerry wrote the bill that became the
foundation for the 1997 State Children's Health Insurance Program (S-CHIP),
which provided states with federal funding to help extend health insurance
coverage to children whose families do not qualify for Medicaid. He introduced
legislation to expand state and local early childhood development efforts,
including education, child care and health care for children between birth and
six years old. At the end of 2000, a version of this bipartisan legislation was
signed into law. To address the needs of America's at-risk youth, John Kerry
led the effort to establish the YouthBuild program, which provides young people
with basic education toward a diploma and the skills training they need to get
a good-paying job. YouthBuild also teaches leadership and civic engagement
while providing students with adult mentors who help them overcome personal
problems and participate in a supportive community with positive values.

Fought for Affordable Housing. As a member of the Senate Housing Subcommittee,
John Kerry has a long record of fighting for affordable housing. He shaped the
first significant rewrite of the public housing program in over 20 years and
worked to craft and pass a bill that helped save the government billions of
dollars in rental assistance payments, preserved thousands of affordable rental
apartments, and helped finance the rehabilitation of those apartments. With
Senator Jim Jeffords (I-VT), John Kerry sponsored the Affordable Housing
Preservation Act to foster local partnerships between non-profits, state and
local governments, and private landlords in order to keep existing housing
projects available and affordable for low-income tenants. He worked to create
and implement the "mark-up to market" program and he co-authored the Affordable
Housing for Seniors and Families Act of 2000.



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Gould 0738 October 1st 04 01:00 AM

I'd sure like to see a resume', Chuck. Wouldn't you?

One resume' coming up:

John Kerry compiled an impressive record of accomplishment during his career in
the United States Senate. During his two decades of service, he fought for
fiscal discipline, expanded children's health care, fought to put 100,000 more
cops on America's streets, and worked with Senator John McCain (R-AZ) to
investigate the fate of American POW/MIAs and help soldiers suffering from
exposure to Agent Orange.
As chairman of the Senate Small Business Committee, John Kerry stood up for
Americans who own and work for small businesses and fought for a level playing
field in today's competitive global economy. In 19 years of service on the
Senate Foreign Relations Committee - including a term as chairman of the
Subcommittee on Terrorism, Narcotics and International Operations - John Kerry
distinguished himself as one of our nation's most respected experts on national
security issues and a leader in fighting terrorism and preventing the spread of
nuclear weapons.

Putting principle ahead of partisanship, John Kerry worked with his Republican
colleagues on important issues like balancing the budget and keeping government
spending under control. And with a firm dedication to expanding and
strengthening the middle class, he fought for an America that fulfills its
great promise - that gives hard-working Americans the opportunity to build a
better life for themselves and their families.


Building a Stronger Economy
Making America Safer
Expanding and Improving Health Care for All Americans
Making America More Respected in the World
Other Important Accomplishments

Building a Stronger Economy
Crossed Party Lines to Support a Balanced Budget and Cast the Decisive Vote to
Create 23 Million New Jobs. Shortly after joining the Senate, John Kerry
crossed party lines to bring fiscal discipline back to Washington.


Fought for Gramm-Rudman-Hollings, Deficit Reduction Act, Balanced Budget Act.
John Kerry cosponsored and voted for the landmark Gramm-Rudman-Hollings
balanced budget and deficit reduction bill to end runaway deficits. In 1993,
John Kerry supported the Deficit Reduction Act, which put America back on track
toward a balanced budget and fiscal discipline. John Kerry's vote reduced the
deficit and resulted in the creation of 23 million new jobs. John Kerry also
voted for the historic 1997 Balanced Budget Act, which dramatically reduced
spending and balanced the budget for the first time in a generation.
Helped Increase the Minimum Wage. John Kerry was instrumental in passing the
most recent increase in the minimum wage - to $5.15 per hour in 1997.

Fought for the Child Tax Credit. John Kerry led a successful fight for an
amendment he introduced to make sure that all working families receive a child
tax credit.

Stood Up for Small Business. As chairman of the Senate Small Business
Committee, John Kerry promoted policies to increase access to capital, open
international markets, foster innovative technology companies, reduce red tape
and increase federal contracting opportunities. He also created and improved
the MicroLoan program, expanded the successful nationwide Women's Business
Centers (WBC) and loan programs that help the small businesses of reservists
stay afloat while they are on active duty.

Making America Safer
Fought For 100,000 Additional Cops on the Street. As a former prosecutor, John
Kerry understands the importance of strong law enforcement. That's why he led
the fight to add police on our streets through his amendment to the 1993 Crime
Control bill. John Kerry's amendment provided for $150 million to hire 100,000
new police officers - a measure widely regarded as having helped to lower the
crime rate across the country.

Fought to Modernize and Strengthen America's Military. John Kerry has supported
over $4 trillion in defense funding and has supported virtually every
successful weapons system in use by today's military. In 2002, John Kerry voted
for the largest increase in defense spending since the 1980's. And because John
Kerry understands that our national security begins with the men and women who
risk their lives to protect it, he has supported pay increases, benefit
increases, and quality-of-life improvements for America's men and women in
uniform throughout his career.

Fought Global Terrorism. John Kerry introduced critical legislation for
cracking down on international laundering of terrorist funds. He was one of the
key architects of anti-money-laundering provisions in the Patriot Act designed
to deny financing for terrorists, and he has consistently used these provisions
to press the Bush administration to crack down on terrorist financing
activities by Syria and Saudi Arabia. He introduced a bill to ban arms exports
to countries that provide support for acts of international terrorism, a
proposal that was incorporated into the final 1990 State Department
Authorization Bill.

Made the Homeland More Secure. John Kerry was an original co-sponsor of the
Aviation and Transportation Security Act of 2001, which improved our nation's
airline security after September 11th. He also helped pass legislation in
response to September 11th that placed armed Coast Guard personnel on high-risk
vehicles such as oil and gas tankers as they enter port.

Worked to Prevent the Spread of Nuclear, Biological and Chemical Weapons. John
Kerry has made preventing the spread of nuclear weapons a top priority. He
fought for ratification of the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty, fought
against withdrawal from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, and has been a
strong and persistent advocate of programs that help secure nuclear, biological
and chemical weapons stockpiles and materials in the former Soviet Union so
they do not fall into the hands of hostile states or terrorists.

Expanding and Improving Health Care
for All Americans
A Leader in Expanding Access and Lowering the Cost of Health Care for America's
Children. John Kerry was there at the beginning of the fight to provide the
largest investment in children's health care since the creation of Medicaid.


Wrote Pre-Cursor Bill to S-CHIP, Providing Coverage for up to 5 Million
Children. John Kerry's 1996 bill, the Healthy Children, Family Assistance
Health Insurance Program, was the precursor to the successful State Children's
Health Insurance Program (S-CHIP) that became law in 1997. S-CHIP provides
funding to cover 5 million children.
Improved Coverage and Care for America's Veterans. John Kerry has been a
tireless champion of mandatory funding for veterans' health care. He fought
vigorously for full funding of Veterans Administration (VA) health care and
opposed the Bush administration's exclusion of Priority 8 veterans and its
elimination of VA outreach efforts. He sought improved prescription drug
benefits and authored legislation in 2003 to let veterans fill prescriptions
written by non-VA doctors through the VA pharmacy.

Improved Post-Natal Care. John Kerry co-sponsored an amendment that
successfully required health care plans to provide coverage for a minimum
hospital stay for a mother and child following the birth of the child.

Fought HIV/AIDS. John Kerry was among the earliest supporters of the Ryan White
Comprehensive AIDS Resources Emergency (CARE) Act, which today is the largest
discretionary federal investment in treatment and support services for
individuals and families living with HIV or AIDS. Today, 533,000 Americans with
HIV/AIDS receive better treatment through this program.

Addressed America's Nursing Shortage. John Kerry wrote the Nurse Reinvestment
Act to help relieve a nationwide, crisis-level shortage of registered nurses by
encouraging more young people to choose a career in nursing. Today, enrollment
rates at undergraduate nursing programs are up by 17 percent.

Making America More Respected
in the World
Helped Spread Democracy and Human Rights Throughout the World. John Kerry was a
leading advocate for democratic elections in the Philippines, serving as an
elections monitor as part of a Senate delegation that uncovered the fraud that
led to the ouster of President Ferdinand Marcos. He was a strong proponent of
U.S. participation in the NATO intervention that put an end to the ethnic
cleansing in Kosovo. He worked with the United Nations and Cambodian government
officials to facilitate the creation of the genocide tribunal in Cambodia that
will prosecute key members of the Khmer Rouge. He sponsored the Code of Conduct
of Arms Transfers Act, which prohibited U.S. military assistance and arms
transfers to nations that do not adequately protect the human rights of their
citizens. And he co-sponsored bipartisan legislation which imposed sanctions on
Burma's military regime for detaining Aung San Suu Kyi and repressing her
National League for Democracy party.

Fought Global HIV/AIDS. John Kerry authored major elements of the Global AIDS
and Tuberculosis Relief Act of 2000, legislation which at the time provided the
most money ever for fighting AIDS, malaria and tuberculosis around the world.
He sponsored the bipartisan U.S. Leadership Against HIV/AIDS, Tuberculosis, and
Malaria Act of 2002, comprehensive legislation that was unanimously approved by
the Senate and became the foundation of the global AIDS legislation that was
passed by congress and signed by President Bush.

Fought International Crime, Corruption and Drug Trafficking. John Kerry chaired
the landmark hearings that uncovered the Bank of Credit and Commerce
International (BCCI) scandal - the largest banking corruption scandal in modern
times. He led hearings which provided evidence that Haitian military officials
were involved in drug trafficking to the United States. He also led hearings on
corruption and drug trafficking by Panamanian dictator Manuel Noriega, and
introduced legislation requiring the Reagan administration to cut off foreign
aid to Panama because of drug-related corruption within its government.

Uncovered Government Corruption. John Kerry went on a fact-finding mission to
Nicaragua and presented his findings to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
Based in part on John Kerry's groundbreaking findings, the committee reached a
consensus decision to investigate the Contra guerillas and their connection to
drug trafficking in the United States. The resulting investigation uncovered
the Iran-Contra scandal, a scheme that diverted profits from illegal arms sales
to Iran to support the Contra guerilla fighters in Nicaragua.

Other Important Accomplishments
Took on the Task of Investigating POW/MIA Issues. John Kerry and John McCain
"doggedly investigated" an important and volatile issue which some described as
an "unglamorous task that nobody else wanted." Regarding the investigation,
John McCain said, "John Kerry handled the chairmanship of that committee with
tremendous skill." In 1994, John Kerry sponsored an amendment with McCain that
urged the American government to lift its 25-year trade embargo with Vietnam.
He then worked closely with McCain and President Clinton to facilitate full
normalization of trade and diplomatic relations with Vietnam.

Fought to Help Victims of Agent Orange. Beginning more than 15 years ago, John
Kerry introduced legislation to assist veterans in receiving medical
compensation after being exposed to the toxic chemical Agent Orange. John Kerry
even testified before Congress to force the government to care for Vietnam
veterans. John Kerry's bill, the Comprehensive Agent Orange Scientific Evidence
Review Act, sought to require that the Veterans Administration(VA) look into
the "health effects of exposure" to Agent Orange. John Kerry also voted to pass
the Agent Orange Act of 1991 and the Veterans' Agent Orange Exposure and
Vietnam Service Benefits Act of 1989.

Fought to Protect America's Environment. John Kerry has been described by the
League of Conservation Voters as an "environmental champion." He introduced
legislation to improve standards for clean air and establish a fund to finance
emissions reductions. He secured millions of dollars in funding to clean
America's waterways, harbors, and drinking water, worked to strengthen the Safe
Drinking Water Act, and introduced legislation in 1996 to ensure "protection in
the quality of our water." He sponsored legislation that extended and
strengthened laws protecting marine mammals from commercial fishing. He helped
protect America's National Parks and National Forests from pollution, excessive
logging, and overdevelopment while ensuring that endangered species are
preserved for all Americans to experience. He has opposed opening the Arctic
National Wildlife Refuge to drilling for over a decade, ensuring that future
generations can experience this national treasure. He strongly advocated for
U.S. participation in the Kyoto accords and other international environmental
initiatives, and personally participated in many major world environmental
summits, including conferences at Rio di Janiero, Kyoto and the Hague.

Fought for America's Veterans. John Kerry has been a tireless champion of
mandatory funding for veterans' health care. He fought vigorously for full
funding of VA health care and opposed the Bush administration's exclusion of
Priority 8 veterans and its elimination of VA outreach efforts. He sought
improved prescription drug benefits and authored legislation in 2003 to let
veterans fill prescriptions written by non-VA doctors through the VA pharmacy.
As chairman of the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs, John Kerry
investigated the fate of missing American soldiers in Vietnam and brought about
the resolution of this difficult issue for their families and for the
governments of both countries. In 1994, he sponsored an amendment with Senator
McCain that urged the American government to lift its 25-year trade embargo
with Vietnam. He then worked closely with Senator McCain and President Clinton
to facilitate full normalization of trade and diplomatic relations with
Vietnam.

Stood Up for America's Children. John Kerry wrote the bill that became the
foundation for the 1997 State Children's Health Insurance Program (S-CHIP),
which provided states with federal funding to help extend health insurance
coverage to children whose families do not qualify for Medicaid. He introduced
legislation to expand state and local early childhood development efforts,
including education, child care and health care for children between birth and
six years old. At the end of 2000, a version of this bipartisan legislation was
signed into law. To address the needs of America's at-risk youth, John Kerry
led the effort to establish the YouthBuild program, which provides young people
with basic education toward a diploma and the skills training they need to get
a good-paying job. YouthBuild also teaches leadership and civic engagement
while providing students with adult mentors who help them overcome personal
problems and participate in a supportive community with positive values.

Fought for Affordable Housing. As a member of the Senate Housing Subcommittee,
John Kerry has a long record of fighting for affordable housing. He shaped the
first significant rewrite of the public housing program in over 20 years and
worked to craft and pass a bill that helped save the government billions of
dollars in rental assistance payments, preserved thousands of affordable rental
apartments, and helped finance the rehabilitation of those apartments. With
Senator Jim Jeffords (I-VT), John Kerry sponsored the Affordable Housing
Preservation Act to foster local partnerships between non-profits, state and
local governments, and private landlords in order to keep existing housing
projects available and affordable for low-income tenants. He worked to create
and implement the "mark-up to market" program and he co-authored the Affordable
Housing for Seniors and Families Act of 2000.



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Taco Heaven October 1st 04 01:20 AM

The list of accomplishments are for everything he ever voted for, thought
abouit or talked about.

I mean what bills did he introduce and actually them passed by the US
senate.

I skimmed over the last 3 years and all I could find are bills similar to
the ones below that actually were passed. Do you know of one major bill in
the last 20 years that Kerry sponsored and it was voted into law?

A bill to award a congressional gold medal to Jackie Robinson
(posthumously), in recognition of his many contributions to the Nation, and
to express the sense of Congress that there should be a national day in
recognition of Jackie Robinson
A resolution honoring Neil L. Rudenstine, President of Harvard University

A resolution amending the Standing Rules of the Senate to change the name of
the Committee on Small Business to the "Committee on Small Business and
Entrepreneurship".

A resolution expressing the sense of the Senate regarding the policy of the
United States at the 17th Regular Meeting of the International Convention
for the Conservation of Atlantic Tunas in Murcia, Spain

A resolution to honor Milton D. Stewart for his years of service in the
Office of Advocacy of the Small Business Administration

A resolution expressing the sense of the Senate that small business
participation is vital to the defense of our Nation, and that Federal,
State, and local governments should aggressively seek out and purchase
innovative technologies and services from American small businesses to help
in homeland defense and the fight against terrorism

A resolution honoring Ted Williams and extending the condolences of the
Senate on his death.

A bill to amend the Small Business Act with respect to the women's business
center program.

To promote an international arms transfer regime

Kerry amendment to S. 1217 to increase funding for Small Business
Administration Microloan Technical Assistance

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
What are some of Kerry's major achievements in the senate?


You asked for it:

(from johnkerry.com)

John Kerry compiled an impressive record of accomplishment during his
career in
the United States Senate. During his two decades of service, he fought for
fiscal discipline, expanded children's health care, fought to put 100,000
more
cops on America's streets, and worked with Senator John McCain (R-AZ) to
investigate the fate of American POW/MIAs and help soldiers suffering from
exposure to Agent Orange.
As chairman of the Senate Small Business Committee, John Kerry stood up
for
Americans who own and work for small businesses and fought for a level
playing
field in today's competitive global economy. In 19 years of service on the
Senate Foreign Relations Committee - including a term as chairman of the
Subcommittee on Terrorism, Narcotics and International Operations - John
Kerry
distinguished himself as one of our nation's most respected experts on
national
security issues and a leader in fighting terrorism and preventing the
spread of
nuclear weapons.

Putting principle ahead of partisanship, John Kerry worked with his
Republican
colleagues on important issues like balancing the budget and keeping
government
spending under control. And with a firm dedication to expanding and
strengthening the middle class, he fought for an America that fulfills its
great promise - that gives hard-working Americans the opportunity to build
a
better life for themselves and their families.


Building a Stronger Economy
Making America Safer
Expanding and Improving Health Care for All Americans
Making America More Respected in the World
Other Important Accomplishments

Building a Stronger Economy
Crossed Party Lines to Support a Balanced Budget and Cast the Decisive
Vote to
Create 23 Million New Jobs. Shortly after joining the Senate, John Kerry
crossed party lines to bring fiscal discipline back to Washington.


Fought for Gramm-Rudman-Hollings, Deficit Reduction Act, Balanced Budget
Act.
John Kerry cosponsored and voted for the landmark Gramm-Rudman-Hollings
balanced budget and deficit reduction bill to end runaway deficits. In
1993,
John Kerry supported the Deficit Reduction Act, which put America back on
track
toward a balanced budget and fiscal discipline. John Kerry's vote reduced
the
deficit and resulted in the creation of 23 million new jobs. John Kerry
also
voted for the historic 1997 Balanced Budget Act, which dramatically
reduced
spending and balanced the budget for the first time in a generation.
Helped Increase the Minimum Wage. John Kerry was instrumental in passing
the
most recent increase in the minimum wage - to $5.15 per hour in 1997.

Fought for the Child Tax Credit. John Kerry led a successful fight for an
amendment he introduced to make sure that all working families receive a
child
tax credit.

Stood Up for Small Business. As chairman of the Senate Small Business
Committee, John Kerry promoted policies to increase access to capital,
open
international markets, foster innovative technology companies, reduce red
tape
and increase federal contracting opportunities. He also created and
improved
the MicroLoan program, expanded the successful nationwide Women's Business
Centers (WBC) and loan programs that help the small businesses of
reservists
stay afloat while they are on active duty.

Making America Safer
Fought For 100,000 Additional Cops on the Street. As a former prosecutor,
John
Kerry understands the importance of strong law enforcement. That's why he
led
the fight to add police on our streets through his amendment to the 1993
Crime
Control bill. John Kerry's amendment provided for $150 million to hire
100,000
new police officers - a measure widely regarded as having helped to lower
the
crime rate across the country.

Fought to Modernize and Strengthen America's Military. John Kerry has
supported
over $4 trillion in defense funding and has supported virtually every
successful weapons system in use by today's military. In 2002, John Kerry
voted
for the largest increase in defense spending since the 1980's. And because
John
Kerry understands that our national security begins with the men and women
who
risk their lives to protect it, he has supported pay increases, benefit
increases, and quality-of-life improvements for America's men and women in
uniform throughout his career.

Fought Global Terrorism. John Kerry introduced critical legislation for
cracking down on international laundering of terrorist funds. He was one
of the
key architects of anti-money-laundering provisions in the Patriot Act
designed
to deny financing for terrorists, and he has consistently used these
provisions
to press the Bush administration to crack down on terrorist financing
activities by Syria and Saudi Arabia. He introduced a bill to ban arms
exports
to countries that provide support for acts of international terrorism, a
proposal that was incorporated into the final 1990 State Department
Authorization Bill.

Made the Homeland More Secure. John Kerry was an original co-sponsor of
the
Aviation and Transportation Security Act of 2001, which improved our
nation's
airline security after September 11th. He also helped pass legislation in
response to September 11th that placed armed Coast Guard personnel on
high-risk
vehicles such as oil and gas tankers as they enter port.

Worked to Prevent the Spread of Nuclear, Biological and Chemical Weapons.
John
Kerry has made preventing the spread of nuclear weapons a top priority. He
fought for ratification of the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty,
fought
against withdrawal from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, and has been a
strong and persistent advocate of programs that help secure nuclear,
biological
and chemical weapons stockpiles and materials in the former Soviet Union
so
they do not fall into the hands of hostile states or terrorists.

Expanding and Improving Health Care
for All Americans
A Leader in Expanding Access and Lowering the Cost of Health Care for
America's
Children. John Kerry was there at the beginning of the fight to provide
the
largest investment in children's health care since the creation of
Medicaid.


Wrote Pre-Cursor Bill to S-CHIP, Providing Coverage for up to 5 Million
Children. John Kerry's 1996 bill, the Healthy Children, Family Assistance
Health Insurance Program, was the precursor to the successful State
Children's
Health Insurance Program (S-CHIP) that became law in 1997. S-CHIP provides
funding to cover 5 million children.
Improved Coverage and Care for America's Veterans. John Kerry has been a
tireless champion of mandatory funding for veterans' health care. He
fought
vigorously for full funding of Veterans Administration (VA) health care
and
opposed the Bush administration's exclusion of Priority 8 veterans and its
elimination of VA outreach efforts. He sought improved prescription drug
benefits and authored legislation in 2003 to let veterans fill
prescriptions
written by non-VA doctors through the VA pharmacy.

Improved Post-Natal Care. John Kerry co-sponsored an amendment that
successfully required health care plans to provide coverage for a minimum
hospital stay for a mother and child following the birth of the child.

Fought HIV/AIDS. John Kerry was among the earliest supporters of the Ryan
White
Comprehensive AIDS Resources Emergency (CARE) Act, which today is the
largest
discretionary federal investment in treatment and support services for
individuals and families living with HIV or AIDS. Today, 533,000 Americans
with
HIV/AIDS receive better treatment through this program.

Addressed America's Nursing Shortage. John Kerry wrote the Nurse
Reinvestment
Act to help relieve a nationwide, crisis-level shortage of registered
nurses by
encouraging more young people to choose a career in nursing. Today,
enrollment
rates at undergraduate nursing programs are up by 17 percent.

Making America More Respected
in the World
Helped Spread Democracy and Human Rights Throughout the World. John Kerry
was a
leading advocate for democratic elections in the Philippines, serving as
an
elections monitor as part of a Senate delegation that uncovered the fraud
that
led to the ouster of President Ferdinand Marcos. He was a strong proponent
of
U.S. participation in the NATO intervention that put an end to the ethnic
cleansing in Kosovo. He worked with the United Nations and Cambodian
government
officials to facilitate the creation of the genocide tribunal in Cambodia
that
will prosecute key members of the Khmer Rouge. He sponsored the Code of
Conduct
of Arms Transfers Act, which prohibited U.S. military assistance and arms
transfers to nations that do not adequately protect the human rights of
their
citizens. And he co-sponsored bipartisan legislation which imposed
sanctions on
Burma's military regime for detaining Aung San Suu Kyi and repressing her
National League for Democracy party.

Fought Global HIV/AIDS. John Kerry authored major elements of the Global
AIDS
and Tuberculosis Relief Act of 2000, legislation which at the time
provided the
most money ever for fighting AIDS, malaria and tuberculosis around the
world.
He sponsored the bipartisan U.S. Leadership Against HIV/AIDS,
Tuberculosis, and
Malaria Act of 2002, comprehensive legislation that was unanimously
approved by
the Senate and became the foundation of the global AIDS legislation that
was
passed by congress and signed by President Bush.

Fought International Crime, Corruption and Drug Trafficking. John Kerry
chaired
the landmark hearings that uncovered the Bank of Credit and Commerce
International (BCCI) scandal - the largest banking corruption scandal in
modern
times. He led hearings which provided evidence that Haitian military
officials
were involved in drug trafficking to the United States. He also led
hearings on
corruption and drug trafficking by Panamanian dictator Manuel Noriega, and
introduced legislation requiring the Reagan administration to cut off
foreign
aid to Panama because of drug-related corruption within its government.

Uncovered Government Corruption. John Kerry went on a fact-finding mission
to
Nicaragua and presented his findings to the Senate Foreign Relations
Committee.
Based in part on John Kerry's groundbreaking findings, the committee
reached a
consensus decision to investigate the Contra guerillas and their
connection to
drug trafficking in the United States. The resulting investigation
uncovered
the Iran-Contra scandal, a scheme that diverted profits from illegal arms
sales
to Iran to support the Contra guerilla fighters in Nicaragua.

Other Important Accomplishments
Took on the Task of Investigating POW/MIA Issues. John Kerry and John
McCain
"doggedly investigated" an important and volatile issue which some
described as
an "unglamorous task that nobody else wanted." Regarding the
investigation,
John McCain said, "John Kerry handled the chairmanship of that committee
with
tremendous skill." In 1994, John Kerry sponsored an amendment with McCain
that
urged the American government to lift its 25-year trade embargo with
Vietnam.
He then worked closely with McCain and President Clinton to facilitate
full
normalization of trade and diplomatic relations with Vietnam.

Fought to Help Victims of Agent Orange. Beginning more than 15 years ago,
John
Kerry introduced legislation to assist veterans in receiving medical
compensation after being exposed to the toxic chemical Agent Orange. John
Kerry
even testified before Congress to force the government to care for Vietnam
veterans. John Kerry's bill, the Comprehensive Agent Orange Scientific
Evidence
Review Act, sought to require that the Veterans Administration(VA) look
into
the "health effects of exposure" to Agent Orange. John Kerry also voted to
pass
the Agent Orange Act of 1991 and the Veterans' Agent Orange Exposure and
Vietnam Service Benefits Act of 1989.

Fought to Protect America's Environment. John Kerry has been described by
the
League of Conservation Voters as an "environmental champion." He
introduced
legislation to improve standards for clean air and establish a fund to
finance
emissions reductions. He secured millions of dollars in funding to clean
America's waterways, harbors, and drinking water, worked to strengthen the
Safe
Drinking Water Act, and introduced legislation in 1996 to ensure
"protection in
the quality of our water." He sponsored legislation that extended and
strengthened laws protecting marine mammals from commercial fishing. He
helped
protect America's National Parks and National Forests from pollution,
excessive
logging, and overdevelopment while ensuring that endangered species are
preserved for all Americans to experience. He has opposed opening the
Arctic
National Wildlife Refuge to drilling for over a decade, ensuring that
future
generations can experience this national treasure. He strongly advocated
for
U.S. participation in the Kyoto accords and other international
environmental
initiatives, and personally participated in many major world environmental
summits, including conferences at Rio di Janiero, Kyoto and the Hague.

Fought for America's Veterans. John Kerry has been a tireless champion of
mandatory funding for veterans' health care. He fought vigorously for full
funding of VA health care and opposed the Bush administration's exclusion
of
Priority 8 veterans and its elimination of VA outreach efforts. He sought
improved prescription drug benefits and authored legislation in 2003 to
let
veterans fill prescriptions written by non-VA doctors through the VA
pharmacy.
As chairman of the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs, John Kerry
investigated the fate of missing American soldiers in Vietnam and brought
about
the resolution of this difficult issue for their families and for the
governments of both countries. In 1994, he sponsored an amendment with
Senator
McCain that urged the American government to lift its 25-year trade
embargo
with Vietnam. He then worked closely with Senator McCain and President
Clinton
to facilitate full normalization of trade and diplomatic relations with
Vietnam.

Stood Up for America's Children. John Kerry wrote the bill that became the
foundation for the 1997 State Children's Health Insurance Program
(S-CHIP),
which provided states with federal funding to help extend health insurance
coverage to children whose families do not qualify for Medicaid. He
introduced
legislation to expand state and local early childhood development efforts,
including education, child care and health care for children between birth
and
six years old. At the end of 2000, a version of this bipartisan
legislation was
signed into law. To address the needs of America's at-risk youth, John
Kerry
led the effort to establish the YouthBuild program, which provides young
people
with basic education toward a diploma and the skills training they need to
get
a good-paying job. YouthBuild also teaches leadership and civic engagement
while providing students with adult mentors who help them overcome
personal
problems and participate in a supportive community with positive values.

Fought for Affordable Housing. As a member of the Senate Housing
Subcommittee,
John Kerry has a long record of fighting for affordable housing. He shaped
the
first significant rewrite of the public housing program in over 20 years
and
worked to craft and pass a bill that helped save the government billions
of
dollars in rental assistance payments, preserved thousands of affordable
rental
apartments, and helped finance the rehabilitation of those apartments.
With
Senator Jim Jeffords (I-VT), John Kerry sponsored the Affordable Housing
Preservation Act to foster local partnerships between non-profits, state
and
local governments, and private landlords in order to keep existing housing
projects available and affordable for low-income tenants. He worked to
create
and implement the "mark-up to market" program and he co-authored the
Affordable
Housing for Seniors and Families Act of 2000.



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Taco Heaven October 1st 04 01:33 AM

Gould,

According to John Kerry's senate web site he lists the following
accomplishments for the last 19 years. I have to be honest with you, it
really isn't that impressive, he doesn't list one major bill he sponsered
and had passed.

The other stuff you had listed is fluff done with every campaign.

2002
1. Massachusetts Telecommunications Council "Policy Maker of the Year"
2. NAM Vets of Cape Cod and Islands Award For Significant and Exemplary
Support Rendered To Veterans of This Country and of the Cape and Islands
3. John W. McCormick Award for Public Service

2001
1. June 21, 2002
Parents for Residential Reform, Mass Families Organizing for Change and the
Federation for Children with Special Needs presented The Powerful Friend
Recognition Award to Senator Kerry "for his outstanding leadership and
national voice on behalf of children with disabilities and their families".
2. Visiting Nurse Association of America's "Legislator of the Year"
3. Gerry Studds Stewardship Award from the Boston Harbor Island Alliance for
his work to preserve the Boston Harbor Islands
4. Institute of International Education's "Steven P. Duggan Award for
International Understanding" for lifetime achievement in public service and
leadership in the U.S. Senate

2000
1. Massachusetts Association of Home Health Care's "Legislator of the Year"
2. American Jewish Committee's "Congressional Leadership Award" for efforts
on religious freedom in the workplace

1999
1. Friends of the Public Garden's "Henry Lee Award" for efforts to preserve
Boston's green spaces

1998
1. "Zero to Three" Association's "Achievement Award" for work on early
childhood development issues
2. Association for Enterprise's "Leadership Award" for leadership on the
Senate Committee on Small Business and Entrepreneurship
3. Assumption College's "Presidential Medal"


1997
1. National Health Association's "Legislator of the Year Award" for support
of expanded child care and attention for at-risk children. Sponsored 1997
Early Childhood Development Act

1996
1. Armenian Assembly of America's Award for service and commitment to the
Armenian people. John Kerry was co-sponsor of Humanitarian Aid Corridor Act,
providing aid to Armenia and other nations
2. Time Magazine's "Honest Man in Politics Award" f or being only Senator up
for reelection in 1996 to vote against Defense of Marriage Act

1995
1. Environmental Business Council Paul Keogh Award June 9, 1995 for
distinguished commitment to environmental industries

1993
1. Tri-Community Chamber of Commerce George B. Wells Award December 7, 1993
for leadership in tourism

1990
1. Minority Business Enterprise Legal Defense Fund "Minority Business
Development Trendsetter of the Year" June 17, 1990
2. SMU Labor Education Center Arnold M. Dubin Award November 15, 1990 for
outstanding contributions to the causes of labor and social justice

1998
1. League of Conservation Voters Award honored for having one of the best
For environmental voting record over previous 5 years

1988
1. Commencement speaker for Umass/Boston 20th Commencement UMass Boston
Honorary Degree
2. Brockton Little League's "Appreciation Award" March 7, 1988 for work with
special needs division

1986
1. B'nai Brith Council of Greater Boston's "Man of the Year"

1985
1. National Committee for a Sane Nuclear Policy Award honored JK at a
reception at the Boston Center for Adult Education



Gould 0738 October 1st 04 01:50 AM

ssive, he doesn't list one major bill he

back to the Hannity standard I see.

nothing "major" enough for you.



Taco Heaven October 1st 04 03:06 AM

Gould,
What do you think is one major bill he has sponsored which became law?

This is what Senator Kerry has listed as his accomplishments while he was in
the senate.

2002
1. Massachusetts Telecommunications Council "Policy Maker of the Year"
2. NAM Vets of Cape Cod and Islands Award For Significant and Exemplary
Support Rendered To Veterans of This Country and of the Cape and Islands
3. John W. McCormick Award for Public Service

2001
1. June 21, 2002
Parents for Residential Reform, Mass Families Organizing for Change and the
Federation for Children with Special Needs presented The Powerful Friend
Recognition Award to Senator Kerry "for his outstanding leadership and
national voice on behalf of children with disabilities and their families".
2. Visiting Nurse Association of America's "Legislator of the Year"
3. Gerry Studds Stewardship Award from the Boston Harbor Island Alliance for
his work to preserve the Boston Harbor Islands
4. Institute of International Education's "Steven P. Duggan Award for
International Understanding" for lifetime achievement in public service and
leadership in the U.S. Senate

2000
1. Massachusetts Association of Home Health Care's "Legislator of the Year"
2. American Jewish Committee's "Congressional Leadership Award" for efforts
on religious freedom in the workplace

1999
1. Friends of the Public Garden's "Henry Lee Award" for efforts to preserve
Boston's green spaces

1998
1. "Zero to Three" Association's "Achievement Award" for work on early
childhood development issues
2. Association for Enterprise's "Leadership Award" for leadership on the
Senate Committee on Small Business and Entrepreneurship
3. Assumption College's "Presidential Medal"


1997
1. National Health Association's "Legislator of the Year Award" for support
of expanded child care and attention for at-risk children. Sponsored 1997
Early Childhood Development Act

1996
1. Armenian Assembly of America's Award for service and commitment to the
Armenian people. John Kerry was co-sponsor of Humanitarian Aid Corridor Act,
providing aid to Armenia and other nations
2. Time Magazine's "Honest Man in Politics Award" f or being only Senator up
for reelection in 1996 to vote against Defense of Marriage Act

1995
1. Environmental Business Council Paul Keogh Award June 9, 1995 for
distinguished commitment to environmental industries

1993
1. Tri-Community Chamber of Commerce George B. Wells Award December 7, 1993
for leadership in tourism

1990
1. Minority Business Enterprise Legal Defense Fund "Minority Business
Development Trendsetter of the Year" June 17, 1990
2. SMU Labor Education Center Arnold M. Dubin Award November 15, 1990 for
outstanding contributions to the causes of labor and social justice

1998
1. League of Conservation Voters Award honored for having one of the best
For environmental voting record over previous 5 years

1988
1. Commencement speaker for Umass/Boston 20th Commencement UMass Boston
Honorary Degree
2. Brockton Little League's "Appreciation Award" March 7, 1988 for work with
special needs division

1986
1. B'nai Brith Council of Greater Boston's "Man of the Year"

1985
1. National Committee for a Sane Nuclear Policy Award honored JK at a
reception at the Boston Center for Adult Education


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
ssive, he doesn't list one major bill he


back to the Hannity standard I see.

nothing "major" enough for you.





Eisboch October 2nd 04 04:41 PM

Gould 0738 wrote:
What are some of Kerry's major achievements in the senate?



You asked for it:

(from johnkerry.com)

Stood Up for Small Business. As chairman of the Senate Small Business
Committee, John Kerry promoted policies to increase access to capital, open
international markets, foster innovative technology companies, reduce red tape
and increase federal contracting opportunities. He also created and improved
the MicroLoan program, expanded the successful nationwide Women's Business
Centers (WBC) and loan programs that help the small businesses of reservists
stay afloat while they are on active duty.


Having owned and run a small business in MA for many years, I can't
believe this is the same John Kerry I know. He, nor his staff, couldn't
be bothered to even respond to a basic question to provide direction
related to doing business overseas - despite several promises that he
would.

As to the rest -- what do you expect from johnkerry.com?

Eisboch

Harry Krause October 2nd 04 04:42 PM

Eisboch wrote:


As to the rest -- what do you expect from johnkerry.com?

Eisboch


Certainly not four years of messed mixages.

--
We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the
son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of
them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and
incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah.

What, me worry?

Taco Heaven October 2nd 04 05:07 PM

Eisboch,
If you notice on johnkerry.com they list generalities with very little
specific accomplishments.


"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
Gould 0738 wrote:
What are some of Kerry's major achievements in the senate?



You asked for it:

(from johnkerry.com)

Stood Up for Small Business. As chairman of the Senate Small Business
Committee, John Kerry promoted policies to increase access to capital,
open
international markets, foster innovative technology companies, reduce red
tape
and increase federal contracting opportunities. He also created and
improved
the MicroLoan program, expanded the successful nationwide Women's
Business
Centers (WBC) and loan programs that help the small businesses of
reservists
stay afloat while they are on active duty.


Having owned and run a small business in MA for many years, I can't
believe this is the same John Kerry I know. He, nor his staff, couldn't
be bothered to even respond to a basic question to provide direction
related to doing business overseas - despite several promises that he
would.

As to the rest -- what do you expect from johnkerry.com?

Eisboch




Gould 0738 October 2nd 04 05:12 PM

Eisboch,
If you notice on johnkerry.com they list generalities with very little
specific accomplishments.


That's because any Senator has very little he or she can take personal, and
exclusive
credit for. It's a committee environment.
That's why "served on this committee", "co-sponsored X bill". etc, is about as
good as it gets.

Good campaign smear though. Measure a legislator by the same yardstick you
would use to evaluate an executive.

It would be like asking Geoprge Bush to list all of his Senate votes during the
last four years in the WH.



Eisboch October 2nd 04 05:31 PM

Harry Krause wrote:
Eisboch wrote:


As to the rest -- what do you expect from johnkerry.com?

Eisboch



Certainly not four years of messed mixages.



I just wish there was another choice. I have little confidence in GB
and less in the JFK wanna-be. I suppose GB could hire Kerry as a speech
writer, given that Kerry says the same thing Bush does in a more
articulate way.

Eisboch

JimH October 2nd 04 05:33 PM


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Eisboch,
If you notice on johnkerry.com they list generalities with very little
specific accomplishments.


That's because any Senator has very little he or she can take personal,
and
exclusive
credit for. It's a committee environment.
That's why "served on this committee", "co-sponsored X bill". etc, is
about as
good as it gets.


Actually "introduced or sponsored" important bills is about as good as it
gets.

So what *important* bills did Kerry introduce or sponsor?



Harry Krause October 2nd 04 05:34 PM

Eisboch wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Eisboch wrote:


As to the rest -- what do you expect from johnkerry.com?

Eisboch



Certainly not four years of messed mixages.



I just wish there was another choice. I have little confidence in GB
and less in the JFK wanna-be. I suppose GB could hire Kerry as a speech
writer, given that Kerry says the same thing Bush does in a more
articulate way.

Eisboch



That you still have any ocnfidence in Bush is astonishing. Bush has
pooched everything he has touched.


--
We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the
son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of
them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and
incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah.

What, me worry?

Taco Heaven October 2nd 04 05:58 PM

Gould,

It is not a campaign smear. A senator can list those bills that he
sponsored of cosponsored that passed and became law.

It would show the candidates ability to lead and initiate bills, and not
just one who is voting on the party line.

As I pointed out earlier, I could not find any bill of significance that
Kerry sponsored or cosponsored. When I asked you to find one bill that you
thought was significant, you could not find any either.



"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Eisboch,
If you notice on johnkerry.com they list generalities with very little
specific accomplishments.


That's because any Senator has very little he or she can take personal,
and
exclusive
credit for. It's a committee environment.
That's why "served on this committee", "co-sponsored X bill". etc, is
about as
good as it gets.

Good campaign smear though. Measure a legislator by the same yardstick you
would use to evaluate an executive.

It would be like asking Geoprge Bush to list all of his Senate votes
during the
last four years in the WH.





Taco Heaven October 2nd 04 06:01 PM

Eisboch,
This might be the worst choice we have ever had. Why is it that the cream
of the crop or the best of the best become the candidate for each party? It
seems that the extreme of either party get the volunteers out in mass, and
they control the primaries which leave the vast majority of the voters going
WTF.


"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:
Eisboch wrote:


As to the rest -- what do you expect from johnkerry.com?

Eisboch



Certainly not four years of messed mixages.



I just wish there was another choice. I have little confidence in GB and
less in the JFK wanna-be. I suppose GB could hire Kerry as a speech
writer, given that Kerry says the same thing Bush does in a more
articulate way.

Eisboch




Taco Heaven October 2nd 04 06:04 PM

excuse the typo.
"Taco Heaven" wrote in message
news:6aB7d.97372$wV.37655@attbi_s54...
Eisboch,
This might be the worst choice we have ever had. Why is it that the cream
of the crop or the best of the best *Do Not* become the candidate for each
party? It seems that the extreme of either party get the volunteers out
in mass, and they control the primaries which leave the vast majority of
the voters going WTF.


"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:
Eisboch wrote:


As to the rest -- what do you expect from johnkerry.com?

Eisboch


Certainly not four years of messed mixages.



I just wish there was another choice. I have little confidence in GB and
less in the JFK wanna-be. I suppose GB could hire Kerry as a speech
writer, given that Kerry says the same thing Bush does in a more
articulate way.

Eisboch






Short Wave Sportfishing October 2nd 04 08:46 PM

On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 12:31:20 -0400, Eisboch
wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

As to the rest -- what do you expect from johnkerry.com?

Eisboch


Certainly not four years of messed mixages.


I just wish there was another choice. I have little confidence in GB
and less in the JFK wanna-be. I suppose GB could hire Kerry as a speech
writer, given that Kerry says the same thing Bush does in a more
articulate way.


The problem is that 75% of the country is disenfranchised from the
process. The candidate that does the best in Iowa and New Hampster
going into Super Tuesday wins it all - and has since the introduction
of this system.

There is no say any more. Take this election. Three states are
destined to elect the President - about 9% of the total voting
population - if that.

Which is exactly the way the two major parties want it. That way they
don't have to work hard. They want as small a grouping as possible.

Is it going to change? Not a chance. You think this election is
partisian? Just wait until Billary runs in 2008. You ain't seen
nuttin' yet.

And that is the one that will either destroy the country or make it
better.

You heard it hear first. :)

Take care.

Tom

"The beatings will stop when morale improves."
E. Teach, 1717

Harry Krause October 2nd 04 09:00 PM

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Is it going to change? Not a chance. You think this election is
partisian? Just wait until Billary runs in 2008. You ain't seen
nuttin' yet.



Well, I like Hillary a lot, both as a person and as a politician. But I
don't believe she'll be the nominee or even a serious contender.


--
We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the
son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of
them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and
incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah.

What, me worry?

Short Wave Sportfishing October 2nd 04 09:28 PM

On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 16:00:37 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Is it going to change? Not a chance. You think this election is
partisian? Just wait until Billary runs in 2008. You ain't seen
nuttin' yet.


Well, I like Hillary a lot, both as a person and as a politician. But I
don't believe she'll be the nominee or even a serious contender.


Well, we shall see.

I'm betting it's already a done deal.

Later,

Tom


thunder October 3rd 04 02:42 AM

On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 17:01:54 +0000, Taco Heaven wrote:

Eisboch,
This might be the worst choice we have ever had. Why is it that the cream
of the crop or the best of the best become the candidate for each party?
It seems that the extreme of either party get the volunteers out in mass,
and they control the primaries which leave the vast majority of the voters
going WTF.


We get the democracy *we* deserve. It seems to me, we don't get the
chance to choose our candidates, they are appointed. IMHO, the two party
system is overrated. I became excited about Perot's candidacy, not
because I thought he would be a good President, but because he could send
a message to the two parties that they weren't doing their job of
representing us. Much has been said about the American non-voter, perhaps
they are voting, none of the above.

Harry Krause October 3rd 04 02:43 AM

thunder wrote:
On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 17:01:54 +0000, Taco Heaven wrote:

Eisboch,
This might be the worst choice we have ever had. Why is it that the cream
of the crop or the best of the best become the candidate for each party?
It seems that the extreme of either party get the volunteers out in mass,
and they control the primaries which leave the vast majority of the voters
going WTF.


We get the democracy *we* deserve. It seems to me, we don't get the
chance to choose our candidates, they are appointed. IMHO, the two party
system is overrated. I became excited about Perot's candidacy, not
because I thought he would be a good President, but because he could send
a message to the two parties that they weren't doing their job of
representing us. Much has been said about the American non-voter, perhaps
they are voting, none of the above.



I'm beginning to admire the British parliamentary system.

thunder October 3rd 04 04:07 AM

On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 21:43:15 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:

thunder wrote:
On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 17:01:54 +0000, Taco Heaven wrote:

Eisboch,
This might be the worst choice we have ever had. Why is it that the
cream of the crop or the best of the best become the candidate for each
party? It seems that the extreme of either party get the volunteers out
in mass, and they control the primaries which leave the vast majority
of the voters going WTF.


We get the democracy *we* deserve. It seems to me, we don't get the
chance to choose our candidates, they are appointed. IMHO, the two
party system is overrated. I became excited about Perot's candidacy,
not because I thought he would be a good President, but because he could
send a message to the two parties that they weren't doing their job of
representing us. Much has been said about the American non-voter,
perhaps they are voting, none of the above.



I'm beginning to admire the British parliamentary system.


I'm not sure it's our system or us. Our forefathers warned of the tyranny
of a party system. We have allowed our politicians to serve their "party"
rather than serve us. It is our own fault. In any event, I wouldn't
change the system. It has provided a heritage and stability that has
carried us through trying times. The benefits of that continuity can not
be disregarded.


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