RGrew176 wrote:
In the Rush for a Scoop, CBS Found Trouble Fast



By Josh Getlin, Elizabeth Jensen and Scott Collins Times Staff Writers

NEW YORK — It was 11 a.m. on Sept. 8 — nine hours before "60 Minutes" was
to air. But as news executives debated whether to broadcast a story on newly
obtained paperwork offering fresh evidence about President Bush (news - web
sites)'s National Guard service, a big question hung over CBS News' Westside
headquarters: Were the photocopied documents real or fake?

A more important question is:
Were the facts presented by the documents true? So far, everybody seems
to think so. But I guess focussing on reality isn't going to help Buhs &
Cheney

DSK

WaIIy wrote:
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 07:37:25 -0400, DSK wrote:

RGrew176 wrote:
In the Rush for a Scoop, CBS Found Trouble Fast



By Josh Getlin, Elizabeth Jensen and Scott Collins Times Staff Writers

NEW YORK — It was 11 a.m. on Sept. 8 — nine hours before "60 Minutes" was
to air. But as news executives debated whether to broadcast a story on newly
obtained paperwork offering fresh evidence about President Bush (news - web
sites)'s National Guard service, a big question hung over CBS News' Westside
headquarters: Were the photocopied documents real or fake?

A more important question is:
Were the facts presented by the documents true? So far, everybody seems
to think so. But I guess focussing on reality isn't going to help Buhs &
Cheney

DSK

LOL "Facts" presented by forged, fake documents.

You're losing it.


Far, far more important:

Which Was Worse?

By Steven Vincent

http://www.democraticunderground.com.../22_worse.html

"My only point is that, in retrospect, knowing that some of the
documents underneath may have been - were, indeed, forgeries, and
knowing that apparently there were concerns swirling around about
this, had we known that at the time, we would not have put it in..."

I'm glad Dan Rather and CBS fessed up and took responsibility for
accepting an unreliable document at face value and portraying it to
the country as real. It is a good thing this document did not have
more far reaching or devastating consequences for this country. I
mean, can you imagine what would happen if our President did something
like this?

Actually, he did. The above quote is not from a humbled Dan Rather or
CBS executive, it is from National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice,
talking to the American public on Face the Nation on July 13, 2003.

You remember a little document mentioned in the president's State of
the Union address on Jan. 28, 2003, in which he said these sixteen
little words:

The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought
significant quantities of uranium from Africa.

You remember - the State of the Union address that took us to war by
scaring the **** out of the American people.

That document was proven to be a forgery by Ambassador Joseph Wilson
prior to it being used in Bush's address - the same Joseph Wilson who
was repaid for his service by having his wife, undercover CIA
operative Valerie Plame, outed by "two senior administration
officials," in an article by Robert Novak.

The same Valerie Plame whose undercover mission was to seek out and
identify real weapons of mass destruction and intercept them before
they could be given to terrorist to use against us.

The same mission that was compromised and aborted because of the
outing; endangering the lives of untold agents, operatives and
informants, our country and every citizen in it.

It seems the righteous indignation felt by conservative commentators
over the outrageous conduct of CBS News was not felt for the President
when he misled the country. In fact, all of the people who are now
calling for Dan Rather's head on a pike are the same ones who made
these statements:


It's just 16 words, for crying out loud. Give the guy a break.

- Rush Limbaugh. (Rush later said the document was "100% correct.")

They also addressed the issue of the yellow cake uranium in Niger, and
that of course brings up the old issue of Joe Wilson. In fact, this
was a real and credible threat, correct?

- Sean Hannity to Condoleezza Rice, July 22, 2004


Reluctance at the White House to admit a mistake has led Democrats
ever closer to saying the president lied the country into war. Even
after a belated admission of error last Monday, finger-pointing
between Bush administration agencies continued.


- Robert Novak in his story that outed CIA undercover operative
Valerie Plame

If only the American public and conservatives had held the President
of the United States and his administration to the same standard that
they hold Dan Rather and CBS News, this administration could not have
gotten away with half the things they have.



--
We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the
son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of
them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and
incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah.

What, me worry?

"WaIIy" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 07:37:25 -0400, DSK wrote:

RGrew176 wrote:
In the Rush for a Scoop, CBS Found Trouble Fast



By Josh Getlin, Elizabeth Jensen and Scott Collins Times Staff Writers

NEW YORK - It was 11 a.m. on Sept. 8 - nine hours before "60 Minutes"
was
to air. But as news executives debated whether to broadcast a story on
newly
obtained paperwork offering fresh evidence about President Bush (news -
web
sites)'s National Guard service, a big question hung over CBS News'
Westside
headquarters: Were the photocopied documents real or fake?

A more important question is:
Were the facts presented by the documents true? So far, everybody seems
to think so. But I guess focussing on reality isn't going to help Buhs &
Cheney

DSK

LOL "Facts" presented by forged, fake documents.

You're losing it.

"everyone" is believing it? only if you limit it to the DNC.

The reality is that 'someone' forged federal documents in an attempt to sway
a federal election.

P.Fritz wrote:

The reality is that 'someone' forged federal documents in an attempt to sway
a federal election.


The reality is, the buttwiper in the White House and his crew lied about
WMD in order to have an issue to start a war and deflect attention from
his failing presidency.




We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the
son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of
them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and
incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah.

What, me worry?