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OT Bush Document Forgeries
JohnH wrote:
http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?channel=i_video&clip=/media/2004/09/20/video644643&sec=201&vidId=201&title=CBS$@$We$@$Wer e$@$Misled&hitboxMLC=national CBS finally admits to receiving garbage and flying with it. Seems like there were a lot of other folks right here flying with it. Haven't heard anyone admit they were wrong. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD, on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! CBS says it cannot prove the docs are real. Taht doesn't mean Bush didn't get all the breaks, including some to which he was not entitled. -- We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah. What, me worry? |
But it does show that Kerry supporters are slinging mud in a desperate
attempt to stop the downhill spiral. "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JohnH wrote: http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?channel=i_video&clip=/media/2004/09/20/video644643&sec=201&vidId=201&title=CBS$@$We$@$Wer e$@$Misled&hitboxMLC=national CBS finally admits to receiving garbage and flying with it. Seems like there were a lot of other folks right here flying with it. Haven't heard anyone admit they were wrong. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD, on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! CBS says it cannot prove the docs are real. Taht doesn't mean Bush didn't get all the breaks, including some to which he was not entitled. -- We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah. What, me worry? |
Kerry commited a major f*#$up by wrapping his sorry arms around CBS' Dan
Rather's partisanship. This has to hurt... a lot. As for Rather.... it's time for that sorry ******* to get out of Dodge and move back to Texas. But, he'll have to watch his mouth in Texas where liars often suffer some consequences. Maybe he should stay in NY or move to the left coast. Butch "Taco Heaven" wrote in message news:cIH3d.471608$%_6.35025@attbi_s01... But it does show that Kerry supporters are slinging mud in a desperate attempt to stop the downhill spiral. "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JohnH wrote: http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?channel=i_video&clip=/media/2004/09/20/video644643&sec=201&vidId=201&title=CBS$@$We$@$Wer e$@$Misled&hitboxMLC=national CBS finally admits to receiving garbage and flying with it. Seems like there were a lot of other folks right here flying with it. Haven't heard anyone admit they were wrong. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD, on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! CBS says it cannot prove the docs are real. Taht doesn't mean Bush didn't get all the breaks, including some to which he was not entitled. -- We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah. What, me worry? |
"JohnH" wrote in message ... http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?channel=i_video&clip=/media/2004/09/20/video644643&sec=201&vidId=201&title=CBS$@$We$@$Wer e$@$Misled&hitboxMLC=national CBS finally admits to receiving garbage and flying with it. Seems like there were a lot of other folks right here flying with it. Haven't heard anyone admit they were wrong. Hehehe. And to think...when I posted that possibility here on rec.boats (before any of the major news media mentioned it), Harry jumped all over my case for citing CNSNEWS.com as my source. |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JohnH wrote: http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?channel=i_video&clip=/media/2004/09/20/video644643&sec=201&vidId=201&title=CBS$@$We$@$Wer e$@$Misled&hitboxMLC=national CBS finally admits to receiving garbage and flying with it. Seems like there were a lot of other folks right here flying with it. Haven't heard anyone admit they were wrong. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD, on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! CBS says it cannot prove the docs are real. Actually, Rather says a bit more than that: " Now, after extensive additional interviews, I no longer have the confidence in these documents that would allow us to continue vouching for them journalistically." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- That's journalist code for: "they're bull****". |
Butch Davis wrote:
As for Rather.... it's time for that sorry ******* to get out of Dodge and move back to Texas. But, he'll have to watch his mouth in Texas where liars often suffer some consequences. You mean, like Bush...elected governor? -- We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah. What, me worry? |
JohnH wrote:
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 21:48:37 GMT, "NOYB" wrote: You did good on this one. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD, on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! Ahhh...I see John Whoring is out working the streets...again. -- We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah. What, me worry? |
Too funny. Gould makes up funny conspiracy stories blaming Bush for leaking
false documents about himself to entrap Kerry/Rather while all Harry can come up with is to say POTUS looks like Howdy Doody(?). Are these lefties grasping at straws, or what? Hehehe. Butch "Gould 0738" wrote in message ... Fly on wall of WH staff room hears: "Ok, George, all those questionable accusations about Kerry behaving cowardly in Viet Nam seem to have done some damage. Now we need to worry about a reprisal. What's the worst thing that anybody can say about your military service?" "That I went AWOL when it looked like the unit might be called up for combat missions. I basically skipped two years of my obligation." "Oh schidt! We can't let that stand. Who could corroborate that?" "Most of my commanders are dead now, or senile, but there might be some documents somewhere. I suppose we'd be hurt pretty badly if they showed up....." "Oh, crap. What to do, what to do, what to do........I've got it! We'll draft some phony documents detailing those charges, and leak them to the press through somebody who is closely enough associated with the TANG to be credible!" "What!? Are you nuts? Bring this down on our own campaign?" "Exactly. The minute the story hits, we can put up a hue and cry that the documents are phony. That will divert everybody's attention to the authenticity of the documents, and away from the charges. When we eventually prove the documents are phony, as we rather obviously will be able to do, the sheeple will believe that if the documents are phony the charges must be phony too." "Brilliant!" "This will probably destroy the career of the reporter we leak this to........" "I was just thinking the same thing. Dan Rather. Has to be, Dan Rather." ****** But then again, that's just the report from the fly on the White House wall. Could have been written on forged flypaper. :-) |
Butch Davis wrote:
Too funny. Gould makes up funny conspiracy stories blaming Bush for leaking false documents about himself to entrap Kerry/Rather while all Harry can come up with is to say POTUS looks like Howdy Doody(?). Are these lefties grasping at straws, or what? Hehehe. Butch He does look like Howdy Doody. Or Alfred E. Newman. And is no smarter than either. What he looks like, of course, is not relevant. How dumb he is...is. -- We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah. What, me worry? |
"Butch Davis" wrote in message ink.net... Too funny. Gould makes up funny conspiracy stories blaming Bush for leaking false documents about himself to entrap Kerry/Rather while all Harry can come up with is to say POTUS looks like Howdy Doody(?). Are these lefties grasping at straws, or what? Hehehe. What else would you expect from the intellectually bankrupt liebral socialists????? Butch "Gould 0738" wrote in message ... Fly on wall of WH staff room hears: "Ok, George, all those questionable accusations about Kerry behaving cowardly in Viet Nam seem to have done some damage. Now we need to worry about a reprisal. What's the worst thing that anybody can say about your military service?" "That I went AWOL when it looked like the unit might be called up for combat missions. I basically skipped two years of my obligation." "Oh schidt! We can't let that stand. Who could corroborate that?" "Most of my commanders are dead now, or senile, but there might be some documents somewhere. I suppose we'd be hurt pretty badly if they showed up....." "Oh, crap. What to do, what to do, what to do........I've got it! We'll draft some phony documents detailing those charges, and leak them to the press through somebody who is closely enough associated with the TANG to be credible!" "What!? Are you nuts? Bring this down on our own campaign?" "Exactly. The minute the story hits, we can put up a hue and cry that the documents are phony. That will divert everybody's attention to the authenticity of the documents, and away from the charges. When we eventually prove the documents are phony, as we rather obviously will be able to do, the sheeple will believe that if the documents are phony the charges must be phony too." "Brilliant!" "This will probably destroy the career of the reporter we leak this to........" "I was just thinking the same thing. Dan Rather. Has to be, Dan Rather." ****** But then again, that's just the report from the fly on the White House wall. Could have been written on forged flypaper. :-) |
P.Fritz wrote:
"Butch Davis" wrote in message ink.net... Too funny. Gould makes up funny conspiracy stories blaming Bush for leaking false documents about himself to entrap Kerry/Rather while all Harry can come up with is to say POTUS looks like Howdy Doody(?). Are these lefties grasping at straws, or what? Hehehe. What else would you expect from the intellectually bankrupt liebral socialists????? I don't mind name-calling from the vacuous, but since both Gould and I are deeply engaged in making money via the system we have in this country, what makes you think either of us are modern-day socialists? I wouldn't presume to speak for Gould. Personally, I have nothing against and indeed find much to like about many aspects of modern European socialism, especially those aspects of it that help those with problems (medical, layoffs, et cetera) from being placed on the discard pile. If I wanted to be a socialist, I'd move to one of those more civilized, more modern states, instead of living in the "shoot-em-up" USA, eh? What the hell do you actually know about modern socialism, ****-for-brains? Or do you, as I suspect, just projectile vomit what you've heard on reich-wing radio? -- We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah. What, me worry? |
What else would you expect from the intellectually bankrupt liebral
socialists????? Something requiring more intellect than juvenile name calling? |
Too funny. Gould makes up funny conspiracy stories blaming Bush for leaking
false documents about himself to entrap Kerry/Rather while all Harry can come up with is to say POTUS looks like Howdy Doody(?). Glad you saw the humor in the story. How does this entrap Kerry, except in the sperm spewing fantasies of the radio right? The point you missed is that the WH *does not dispute* the substance of the story. The public is so distracted by the flap over the documents, nobody paid any attention to whether the story could be real, or not. If I owed you $5000, and a mysterious, forged IOU surfaced- would that prove I didn't owe you $5000? By current standards it must- if the note was forged the debt it represents must be bogus as well. The public is also overlooking the fact that each time Bush says "All the records have been released. This time, I really mean it. You've got them all,"......somebody files a lawsuit for access to public documents and lo, behold, more stuff comes forward. Bush has proved he is unworthy of his office during the last four years. Nobody needs to go back to when he was a coke-snorting college student to make him look ridiculous. But since CBS chose to do so, I still suspect that where there is smoke, there is some fire. The producer of that 60 Mintues spot is a young woman from Seattle. Her best friend still works at the local station, and the word of yesterday is that "there is a lot more that is about to break" on the issue. CBS now has an incentive to destroy Bush's military service credibility- if it can do so. We'll see. |
"P.Fritz" wrote in message ...
"Butch Davis" wrote in message ink.net... Too funny. Gould makes up funny conspiracy stories blaming Bush for leaking false documents about himself to entrap Kerry/Rather while all Harry can come up with is to say POTUS looks like Howdy Doody(?). Are these lefties grasping at straws, or what? Hehehe. What else would you expect from the intellectually bankrupt liebral socialists????? Too funny, Fritz is chastising people for name calling, and in doing so, makes the above statement!!!!!!! |
And we have Kerry who looks like Lurch.
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Butch Davis wrote: Too funny. Gould makes up funny conspiracy stories blaming Bush for leaking false documents about himself to entrap Kerry/Rather while all Harry can come up with is to say POTUS looks like Howdy Doody(?). Are these lefties grasping at straws, or what? Hehehe. Butch He does look like Howdy Doody. Or Alfred E. Newman. And is no smarter than either. What he looks like, of course, is not relevant. How dumb he is...is. -- We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah. What, me worry? |
"Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... And we have Kerry who looks like Lurch. I was thinking Mr. Ed. |
Chuck, how long were you in the military?
I-0W. Conscientous objector. Draft number came up, did two years alternative service. |
(Gould 0738) wrote in message ...
Fly on wall of WH staff room hears: Gould, You have no clue as to Bush's service. Have you not seen the reports as to the requirements for guard service? The requirements for NG service were 50 points per year. Bush had; 1st yr: 340 2nd yr: 253 3rd yr: 112 4th yr: 137 5th yr: 56 6th yr: 56 Result; HONORABLE DISCHARGE Source: http://www.hillnews.com/york/090904.aspx I know, it is a conservative site so it must be discounted by such as yourself and hairy and asskisser. |
I know, it is a conservative site so it must be discounted by such as
yourself and hairy and asskisser. It makes tremendous sense to discount people who cannot address issues without invoking personalities. From any side. Did you know that it's usually the losing party that gets involved in name calling? |
"Gould 0738" wrote in message ... Chuck, how long were you in the military? I-0W. Conscientous objector. Draft number came up, did two years alternative service. Translation: He who enjoys the freedoms other have fought for but will not do the same when asked. I figured as much Chuck. |
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 07:37:03 -0400, jim-- wrote:
I-0W. Conscientous objector. Draft number came up, did two years alternative service. Translation: He who enjoys the freedoms other have fought for but will not do the same when asked. I figured as much Chuck. Like religious freedom? So, when push comes to shove, which allegiance is more important, to God *or* to country? |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... thunder wrote: On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 07:37:03 -0400, jim-- wrote: I-0W. Conscientous objector. Draft number came up, did two years alternative service. Translation: He who enjoys the freedoms other have fought for but will not do the same when asked. I figured as much Chuck. Like religious freedom? So, when push comes to shove, which allegiance is more important, to God *or* to country? Uh-oh...Jayne gave the keyboard back to Jim--wit? A teling post... For someone who has killfiled me you seem to maintain a keen interest in my life and my posts. But such should be expected from a Kerry supported....flip.....flop. |
Like religious freedom? So, when push comes to shove, which allegiance is
more important, to God *or* to country? I did exactly what my country asked me to do. I had a couple of easy outs, including a group of anti-war people in Vancouver BC offering me a job in a cabinet shop and the right connections to become a "landed immigrant". It was allegiance to my country that inspired me to stay here, work within the system, etc. I'm sure it would have been much more herioc to go AWOL from the National Guard, attend college darned near forever, or what not. |
But the documents weren't wrong; they were just forgeries. There is no
dispute about Bush being A.W.O.L. at best, but probably a deserter, or at least that's what they would have called me if I had been "dropped from the rolls" over 30 days like he was. But then, my daddy wasn't the prez, either... Capt. Jeff |
But the documents weren't wrong; they were just forgeries. There is no
dispute about Bush being A.W.O.L. OJ is innocent. Has to be. Just ask the right wingers. Since part of the evidence against him was proven to be fabricated, (Mark Fuhrman, glove, etc) that means the entire case was bogus from the get-go. Since the presence of a forged document to the contrary proves that Bush *must* have served honorably in the TANG, rather obviously OJ is innocent too. Surely the same standard applies. |
"Tamaroak" wrote in message ... But the documents weren't wrong; they were just forgeries. LOL. Thanks. That put a smile on my face. ;-) |
"Gould 0738" wrote in message ... But the documents weren't wrong; they were just forgeries. There is no dispute about Bush being A.W.O.L. OJ is innocent. Has to be. Just ask the right wingers. Since part of the evidence against him was proven to be fabricated, (Mark Fuhrman, glove, etc) that means the entire case was bogus from the get-go. You just argued yesterday that the Constitution protects against abusive powers by the police...and that criminals whose rights are violated shouldn't be prosecuted. Now you're telling me that OJ was really guilty? Since the presence of a forged document to the contrary proves that Bush *must* have served honorably in the TANG, rather obviously OJ is innocent too. I'm glad we agree! |
" jim--" wrote in message ...
"Gould 0738" wrote in message ... Chuck, how long were you in the military? I-0W. Conscientous objector. Draft number came up, did two years alternative service. Translation: He who enjoys the freedoms other have fought for but will not do the same when asked. I figured as much Chuck. So, Jim, What exactly were the freedoms we were fighting for in Vietnam? What was the purpose of that war? |
Sam wrote:
" jim--" wrote in message ... "Gould 0738" wrote in message ... Chuck, how long were you in the military? I-0W. Conscientous objector. Draft number came up, did two years alternative service. Translation: He who enjoys the freedoms other have fought for but will not do the same when asked. I figured as much Chuck. So, Jim, What exactly were the freedoms we were fighting for in Vietnam? What was the purpose of that war? We were there to make sure the North Vietnamese didn't invade Avon Lake, Ohio. -- We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah. What, me worry? |
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 10:40:28 -0500, Tamaroak
wrote: But then, my daddy wasn't the prez, either... Neither was his - that came some time later. |
"Sam" wrote in message om... " jim--" wrote in message ... "Gould 0738" wrote in message ... Chuck, how long were you in the military? I-0W. Conscientous objector. Draft number came up, did two years alternative service. Translation: He who enjoys the freedoms other have fought for but will not do the same when asked. I figured as much Chuck. So, Jim, What exactly were the freedoms we were fighting for in Vietnam? What was the purpose of that war? To stem the flow of communism in SEA, South East Asia, if you can't remember. The threat of communism taking over the world was real in the 30's, 40's and 50's. There was a race in all things political and military. The American way of life was being challenged and threatened. You can say what you will now but, at the time of the Vietnam war the Soviet threat was real. |
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message ... snip The American way of life was being challenged and threatened. snip Say what? How about George W and his pardners threatening 'the American way of life'? You seem to accept that willingly. |
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