On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 02:39:32 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

~~ snippage ~~

ISO 9000 means nothing for quality of construction. Just means you have
full documentation on the construction. You can have built junk, but it
will be well documented junk.

It's about as zero a standard as you can get and still call it a
standard. What a waste.

Take care.

Tom

"The beatings will stop when morale improves."
E. Teach, 1717

Bill,
But as I remember you did post pictures (link) of your deck.
Paul

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I have heard that from many - getting surveys on brand new boats!
It's
pretty sad when you are spending up to hundreds of thousands on a
boat
and
you can still come up with a list of issues/defects from a third
party.
That's what I call quality control and concern for the customer's
hard
earned cash.

Indeed. What is even more pathetic are the folks buying into the
ISO
9000/9001 certification crap that some (can you say Sea Ray) boat
manufacturers tout.


ISO 9000/9001 are very good standards to work by - we have many GOOD
contractors working for us whose organizations actually work by those
standards in their day-to-day activities. The problems come when
manufacturers use them only as lip-service :(

--
G.D.Smith
Harpers Ferry, WV


ISO 9000 means nothing for quality of construction. Just means you
have
full documentation on the construction. You can have built junk, but
it
will be well documented junk.



Sorta like that last deck you built, eh?

--
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
And don't forget to pay your taxes so the rich don't have to!

Not ISO 9000 or junk. You wish you could do as well.

Nope.
"Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote in message
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Bill,
But as I remember you did post pictures (link) of your deck.
Paul

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Calif Bill wrote:
"Glenn S." wrote in message
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" jim--" wrote in message
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"sel1" wrote in message
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I have heard that from many - getting surveys on brand new boats!
It's
pretty sad when you are spending up to hundreds of thousands on a
boat
and
you can still come up with a list of issues/defects from a third
party.
That's what I call quality control and concern for the customer's
hard
earned cash.

Indeed. What is even more pathetic are the folks buying into the
ISO
9000/9001 certification crap that some (can you say Sea Ray) boat
manufacturers tout.


ISO 9000/9001 are very good standards to work by - we have many GOOD
contractors working for us whose organizations actually work by
those
standards in their day-to-day activities. The problems come when
manufacturers use them only as lip-service :(

--
G.D.Smith
Harpers Ferry, WV


ISO 9000 means nothing for quality of construction. Just means you
have
full documentation on the construction. You can have built junk, but
it
will be well documented junk.



Sorta like that last deck you built, eh?

--
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
And don't forget to pay your taxes so the rich don't have to!

Not ISO 9000 or junk. You wish you could do as well.