Or simply having a Christmas party, be able to sing Christmas carols, have
an Easter egg hunt, etc etc.

First, there's nothing (Christian) religious about an Easter Egg hunt. "Ishtar"
was a Babylonian fertility goddess, and the egg is a pagan symbol of fertility,
transformation, and rebirth. Egg hunt ought to be in, as it is no longer
commonly understood to be religious......stations of the cross? Nope.
Preaching resurrection and redemption in a secular classroom? Nope.

Christmas songs? Frosty the Snowman? In. Rudolph the Reindeer? In. Jingle
Bells? You got it. No problem. "What Child is This?" Tilt. "O' Holy Night?"
nope.
It's possible to have a solstice festival without requiring everybody to affirm
a belief in one religion or another.

Image that you are bringing your child up as, say, a devout Jew. You pay your
taxes and send your kid to public school. How do you reconcile events when your
child comes home and says, "Dad, I'm confused. Mrs. Teacher says that the
Messiah has already come and gone, that his name was Jesus, and he died for our
sins. That isn't what they teach at synagogue school. Is Mrs. Teacher, or Rabbi
Yavoltkavish lying?"

How do you reconcile it, and why should you have to?

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Or simply having a Christmas party, be able to sing Christmas carols,
have
an Easter egg hunt, etc etc.

First, there's nothing (Christian) religious about an Easter Egg hunt.
"Ishtar"
was a Babylonian fertility goddess, and the egg is a pagan symbol of
fertility,
transformation, and rebirth. Egg hunt ought to be in, as it is no longer
commonly understood to be religious......stations of the cross? Nope.
Preaching resurrection and redemption in a secular classroom? Nope.

Christmas songs? Frosty the Snowman? In. Rudolph the Reindeer? In.

But Rudolph the Reindeer talks about "Christmas Eve"! Shouldn't the song be
changed to X-mas Eve? Gotta get rid of Christ you know...


Jingle
Bells? You got it. No problem. "What Child is This?" Tilt. "O' Holy
Night?"
nope.
It's possible to have a solstice festival without requiring everybody to
affirm
a belief in one religion or another.

Image that you are bringing your child up as, say, a devout Jew. You pay
your
taxes and send your kid to public school. How do you reconcile events when
your
child comes home and says, "Dad, I'm confused. Mrs. Teacher says that the
Messiah has already come and gone, that his name was Jesus, and he died
for our
sins. That isn't what they teach at synagogue school. Is Mrs. Teacher, or
Rabbi
Yavoltkavish lying?"




How do you reconcile it, and why should you have to?

Well then let's teach the study of all the World's different religions in
our grade schools.

Jews say that God will send the Messiah down when the end of the world is
near.

Christians say that God already sent his son as a messenger...and that he
will return.

Muslims say "Death to the Infidels"...and then blow up a building.

"NOYB" wrote in message
k.net...

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Or simply having a Christmas party, be able to sing Christmas carols,
have
an Easter egg hunt, etc etc.

First, there's nothing (Christian) religious about an Easter Egg hunt.
"Ishtar"
was a Babylonian fertility goddess, and the egg is a pagan symbol of
fertility,
transformation, and rebirth. Egg hunt ought to be in, as it is no longer
commonly understood to be religious......stations of the cross? Nope.
Preaching resurrection and redemption in a secular classroom? Nope.

Christmas songs? Frosty the Snowman? In. Rudolph the Reindeer? In.

But Rudolph the Reindeer talks about "Christmas Eve"! Shouldn't the song
be
changed to X-mas Eve? Gotta get rid of Christ you know...

Of course gould is obviously one of socialist liebrals that believes the
constituion actually mandates a wall of separation between church and state.



Jingle
Bells? You got it. No problem. "What Child is This?" Tilt. "O' Holy
Night?"
nope.
It's possible to have a solstice festival without requiring everybody to
affirm
a belief in one religion or another.

Image that you are bringing your child up as, say, a devout Jew. You pay
your
taxes and send your kid to public school. How do you reconcile events
when
your
child comes home and says, "Dad, I'm confused. Mrs. Teacher says that
the
Messiah has already come and gone, that his name was Jesus, and he died
for our
sins. That isn't what they teach at synagogue school. Is Mrs. Teacher,
or
Rabbi
Yavoltkavish lying?"




How do you reconcile it, and why should you have to?

Well then let's teach the study of all the World's different religions in
our grade schools.

Jews say that God will send the Messiah down when the end of the world is
near.

Christians say that God already sent his son as a messenger...and that he
will return.

Muslims say "Death to the Infidels"...and then blow up a building.

Of course gould is obviously one of socialist liebrals that believes the
constituion actually mandates a wall of separation between church and state.

Wrong. Again. As usual. Gould believes that the Constitution prohibits public
resources, (such as the tax money paid to fund public schools) from being used
to establish or promote any particular religion. Forcing all the kids in a
school to observe the holidays of any specific religion, say the prayers of any
specific religion, etc, clearly demonstrates an intent to "establish" an
official, government sanctioned religion for the school.

It's all about religious freedom, and not even about Christianity vs. the rest
of the world. There are several sects of devout Christians who do not celebrate
Christmas.

NOYB wrote:


But Rudolph the Reindeer talks about "Christmas Eve"! Shouldn't the song be
changed to X-mas Eve? Gotta get rid of Christ you know...


In a pluralistic, non-sectarian society, there is no room for Jesus or
any other religious symbolism in the public's schools.



--
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
And don't forget to pay your taxes so the rich don't have to!

Well then let's teach the study of all the World's different religions in
our grade schools.

Nobody would have any problem with that, from a "social studies" persepective.

Just don't pressure the kids to practice one of the religions, or assume that
everyone in the class comes from a home with the same religious traditions.

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Well then let's teach the study of all the World's different religions in
our grade schools.

Nobody would have any problem with that, from a "social studies"
persepective.

Just don't pressure the kids to practice one of the religions, or assume
that
everyone in the class comes from a home with the same religious
traditions.

I don't know how much I would have enjoyed learning about the World's
various religions back when I was in Middle or High school...but, in
retrospect, I wish that I had learned something about each of them back
then.