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basskisser December 19th 03 05:39 PM

Downsides to a long trailer tongue?
 
"Joe" wrote in message ...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...

Yes, that is true. Not playing Steve's game. He is utterly wrong,
having made too simple of a critical error, and doesn't even realize
it.


Yes, trying to rationalize with you is a critical error.


What JoeTechnician? Hey, by the way, I'm still looking for that proof
of reciprocity you have in the state of Georgia...BWAAAAHAAAA!!!! For
a contractor's license....BWAAAHAAA!!!!!

Steven Shelikoff December 19th 03 05:54 PM

Downsides to a long trailer tongue?
 
On 19 Dec 2003 09:37:54 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ...
On 18 Dec 2003 10:20:16 -0800,
(basskisser) wrote:

(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ...
On 18 Dec 2003 04:06:28 -0800,
(basskisser) wrote:

(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ...
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:50:28 -0800, "Rod McInnis"
wrote:

[reply to basskisser's ineptness cut]

You keep saying that you are an engineer and know this stuff. Yet you refuse
to back up anything you say with equations, calculations or examples. It

There's no way this guy is a professional engineer. He claims to be a
structural professional engineer and yet doesn't know the first thing
about moments. Yeah, right!

should be simple: take the original example, make what ever assumption you
want for the location of the center of mass in the Y and Z direction and run
the calculations. Then create another example, with everything the same
except a different Y and/or Z distance for center of mass (leave the X
direction alone) and run the calculations again.

This is exactly what I proposed when I said:
However, I'm willing to be proven wrong. If you think I'm wrong, why
don't you solve the stated problem twice, assuming that the Z component
of the distance between CG and the fulcrum in one case is 0' and in the
other case is 10'. In both cases the trailer has to be level at all
times. If you can show a difference in the outcome between those cases
I'll admit I'm wrong. If you can't then you're wrong.

But he refuses to provide the first be of evidence that he knows what
he's talking about. Everything he's written so far just shows that he's
an incompetent engineer, if he is one at all.

I'll let you take it from here.:)

Yeah, sure. It's really quite simple. Can be explained and shown where
you are making a critical error in your thinking with one sheet of
paper.

You keep saying it's really simple to explain and you haven't been able
to do it yet. So if you need one sheet of paper to do it, draw it and
scan it and post it in alt.binaries.pictures.misc. Surely a
professional engineer such as yourself could do that easily in a manner
of minutes, far less time than it takes you to post all your off-topic
messages..

Nope. How many times in the thread have I told you that I'm not
playing your silly child's game? Don't get it yet? And yes, it's all
drawn, I've shown everybody else in the office, and it's a 100%
consensus in my favor. But, you don't understand, and never will. If
someone showed you, you'd just pull those blinders tighter than ever,
then tell the newsgroup how every engineer with a brain for vector
mechanics is wrong, and you are right....HEEHE!


Bwaahahaaaa! You're too funny. And a liar.


Awe... whats the matter, Steve? Gonna take your toys and go home
because I won't play with you?


You keep sying you're not gonna play and yet you continue to do so.
Just another one of your lies... like the one above.

Steve

Joe December 19th 03 06:33 PM

Downsides to a long trailer tongue?
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Joe" wrote in message

...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...

Yes, that is true. Not playing Steve's game. He is utterly wrong,
having made too simple of a critical error, and doesn't even realize
it.


Yes, trying to rationalize with you is a critical error.


What JoeTechnician? Hey, by the way, I'm still looking for that proof
of reciprocity you have in the state of Georgia...BWAAAAHAAAA!!!! For
a contractor's license....BWAAAHAAA!!!!!


I gave you plenty-o proof.

Now, where's the proof that you're a PE?
I know your real name is Kevin Noble and a quick check at the Georgia
license verification site shows NO one with that name registered with the
state.

You're a fraud, and a stupid one at that.



drn December 20th 03 01:02 AM

Downsides to a long trailer tongue?
 
Why not just send him in some way that "one" sheet of paper, I don't get it
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Joe" wrote in message

...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...

Yes, that is true. Not playing Steve's game. He is utterly wrong,
having made too simple of a critical error, and doesn't even realize
it.


Yes, trying to rationalize with you is a critical error.


What JoeTechnician? Hey, by the way, I'm still looking for that proof
of reciprocity you have in the state of Georgia...BWAAAAHAAAA!!!! For
a contractor's license....BWAAAHAAA!!!!!




basskisser December 21st 03 11:31 PM

Downsides to a long trailer tongue?
 
"drn" wrote in message ...
Why not just send him in some way that "one" sheet of paper, I don't get it


Because I simply, and straightforwardly told Steve I'm not playing his
little game. He just doesn't understand that.

basskisser December 21st 03 11:33 PM

Downsides to a long trailer tongue?
 
"Joe" wrote in message news:GvHEb.1730
Now, where's the proof that you're a PE?
I know your real name is Kevin Noble and a quick check at the Georgia
license verification site shows NO one with that name registered with the
state.

You're a fraud, and a stupid one at that.


You KNOW my real name? Care to wager? Huh?
We all know the fraud here, JoeTechnician! You certainly don't have
reciprocity for ANYTHING in GA.

basskisser December 21st 03 11:33 PM

Downsides to a long trailer tongue?
 
(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message
You keep sying you're not gonna play and yet you continue to do so.
Just another one of your lies... like the one above.

Steve


Awe, don't cry.

Joe December 22nd 03 12:14 AM

Downsides to a long trailer tongue?
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Joe" wrote in message news:GvHEb.1730
Now, where's the proof that you're a PE?
I know your real name is Kevin Noble and a quick check at the Georgia
license verification site shows NO one with that name registered with

the
state.

You're a fraud, and a stupid one at that.


You KNOW my real name? Care to wager? Huh?
We all know the fraud here, JoeTechnician! You certainly don't have
reciprocity for ANYTHING in GA.


Yes, I do know your real name.
I'll wager whatever you'd like, Kevin.



Steven Shelikoff December 22nd 03 02:50 PM

Downsides to a long trailer tongue?
 
On 21 Dec 2003 15:33:46 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message
You keep sying you're not gonna play and yet you continue to do so.
Just another one of your lies... like the one above.


Awe, don't cry.


Why would I cry? Pointing out what a lying idiot you are is fun!

Steve

Steven Shelikoff December 22nd 03 02:50 PM

Downsides to a long trailer tongue?
 
On 21 Dec 2003 15:31:40 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

"drn" wrote in message ...
Why not just send him in some way that "one" sheet of paper, I don't get it


Because I simply, and straightforwardly told Steve I'm not playing his
little game. He just doesn't understand that.


BZZZT! Wrong answer. It's because you're a lying idiot who claimes to
be a professional structural engineer that has not the first clue on how
to solve a very simple high school physics problem. You've already
prooven that the couple of times you actually did try (and fail) to
solve the problem.

"Basically, a foot of tongue would have to weigh the same as a foot of
the boat and trailer."

"The c.g. of the boat/trailer has not changed in relation to the
fulcrum."

"So, you are trying to say that, if the trailer is level, and the CG is,
say, three feet above the fulcrum point, that if you lengthen the hitch,
thus making the distance in x direction, from fulcrum, to the point of
resistance, that the outcome would be the same if the fulcrum point was
AT the CG? You are sadly mistaken."

Above are three examples of where you *tried* to play the game and
failed miserably. No wonder you're afraid to play anymore. Three
strikes and you're out.

Steve


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