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Gould 0738 September 6th 04 12:45 AM

Excellent Sandpaper
 
I've sprucing up some brightwork at the dock this weekend.

I refuse to buy sandpaper at West Marine. There ain't no such thing as "marine"
sandpaper, and I won't pay over a buck a sheet for plain old sandpaper.

I bought some sandpaper put out by 3M at the hardware store. It's a premium
grade paper that comes three to a pack, and it's got a different mineral on it
that the regular sandpaper. I didn't realize until I got to the checkstand that
the stuff is
about $4 for three sheets, and I almost put it back. That would have been a
mistake.

This stuff lasts about three times as long as regular sandpaper. It doesn't
tear easily, and even after you've been sanding for ten or fifteen minutes with
the same sheet (hand sanding), it still works just as well as when fresh from
the package.
I used less sandpaper, and the work went substantially faster than I would have
expected.

The product is sold under the label "Sandblaster". Good stuff. :-)

Petey the Wonder Dog September 6th 04 11:15 PM

Far as I can tell, someone wrote:
I've used it - it's a carbonate cutting material on the paper and the
stuff is amazing when hand sanding. There is a blasting material made
of the same stuff, but I can't remember the name of it.


Carborundum?

It's fantastic.

Paper should be outlawed, as it's a rip off.

Sanding cloth lasts far longer, doesn't tear like paper, doesn't clog
like paper, and is just all around better.

When a place like West Marine sells "marine" sand paper, what they are
doing is proving that they are willing to lie and deceive for a few
bucks.

Short Wave Sportfishing September 7th 04 12:04 AM

On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 22:15:52 GMT, Petey the Wonder Dog
wrote:

Far as I can tell, someone wrote:
I've used it - it's a carbonate cutting material on the paper and the
stuff is amazing when hand sanding. There is a blasting material made
of the same stuff, but I can't remember the name of it.


Carborundum?

It's fantastic.

Paper should be outlawed, as it's a rip off.

Sanding cloth lasts far longer, doesn't tear like paper, doesn't clog
like paper, and is just all around better.

When a place like West Marine sells "marine" sand paper, what they are
doing is proving that they are willing to lie and deceive for a few
bucks.


I've often wondered about that myself.

I was in the Corps 35+ years ago and I don't ever remember being
issued Marine sandpaper. ;)

Later,

Tom

Bert Robbins September 7th 04 12:52 AM


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 22:15:52 GMT, Petey the Wonder Dog
wrote:

Far as I can tell, someone wrote:
I've used it - it's a carbonate cutting material on the paper and the
stuff is amazing when hand sanding. There is a blasting material made
of the same stuff, but I can't remember the name of it.


Carborundum?

It's fantastic.

Paper should be outlawed, as it's a rip off.

Sanding cloth lasts far longer, doesn't tear like paper, doesn't clog
like paper, and is just all around better.

When a place like West Marine sells "marine" sand paper, what they are
doing is proving that they are willing to lie and deceive for a few
bucks.


I've often wondered about that myself.

I was in the Corps 35+ years ago and I don't ever remember being
issued Marine sandpaper. ;)


It was a bottle of braso and piece of cloth!



Short Wave Sportfishing September 7th 04 01:20 AM

On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 19:52:42 -0400, "Bert Robbins"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 22:15:52 GMT, Petey the Wonder Dog
wrote:

Far as I can tell, someone wrote:
I've used it - it's a carbonate cutting material on the paper and the
stuff is amazing when hand sanding. There is a blasting material made
of the same stuff, but I can't remember the name of it.

Carborundum?

It's fantastic.

Paper should be outlawed, as it's a rip off.

Sanding cloth lasts far longer, doesn't tear like paper, doesn't clog
like paper, and is just all around better.

When a place like West Marine sells "marine" sand paper, what they are
doing is proving that they are willing to lie and deceive for a few
bucks.


I've often wondered about that myself.

I was in the Corps 35+ years ago and I don't ever remember being
issued Marine sandpaper. ;)


It was a bottle of braso and piece of cloth!


OOHRAH!!!!!!

;)

Take care.

Tom

"The beatings will stop when morale improves."
E. Teach, 1717




Maynard G. Krebbs September 7th 04 01:34 AM

snip

I was in the Corps 35+ years ago and I don't ever remember being
issued Marine sandpaper. ;)

Later,

Tom


Semper Fi, Mac!
Mark E. Williams

Don White September 7th 04 03:07 AM


"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...

It was a bottle of braso and piece of cloth!


** Was that your vocation in the marine corps...........polishing your
superiors brass??



Bert Robbins September 7th 04 03:32 AM


"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...

It was a bottle of braso and piece of cloth!


** Was that your vocation in the marine corps...........polishing your
superiors brass??


What have you done for Canada but prove that you are a whiney little self
indulgent bitch?



Harry Krause September 7th 04 04:29 AM

Don White wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...

It was a bottle of braso and piece of cloth!


** Was that your vocation in the marine corps...........polishing your
superiors brass??



He also shined their shoes.

--
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
And don't forget to pay your taxes so the rich don't have to!

Gould 0738 September 7th 04 04:34 AM

** Was that your vocation in the marine corps...........polishing your
superiors brass??



He also shined their shoes.


:-(

Another on-topic thread bites the dust.

Oh well, how much can you really say about sandpaper, anyway?

Wayne.B September 7th 04 05:11 AM

On 07 Sep 2004 03:34:07 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

how much can you really say about sandpaper, anyway?


==============================================

The discussion has begun to take on an abrasive quality


Short Wave Sportfishing September 7th 04 11:29 AM

On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 22:32:48 -0400, "Bert Robbins"
wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...

It was a bottle of braso and piece of cloth!


** Was that your vocation in the marine corps...........polishing your
superiors brass??


What have you done for Canada but prove that you are a whiney little self
indulgent bitch?


There's goes another one right down the chute.

Oh well.... :)

Later,

Tom

Short Wave Sportfishing September 7th 04 11:29 AM

On 07 Sep 2004 03:34:07 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

** Was that your vocation in the marine corps...........polishing your
superiors brass??



He also shined their shoes.


:-(

Another on-topic thread bites the dust.

Oh well, how much can you really say about sandpaper, anyway?


It slices, it dices - it......

Um....

Never rmind.

Later,

Tom
S. Woodstock, CT
-----------
"Angling may be said to be so
like the mathematics that it
can never be fully learnt..."

Izaak Walton "The Compleat Angler", 1653


Short Wave Sportfishing September 7th 04 11:31 AM

On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 00:11:42 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On 07 Sep 2004 03:34:07 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

how much can you really say about sandpaper, anyway?


==============================================

The discussion has begun to take on an abrasive quality


That, ladies and germs, is funny.

Take care.

Tom

"The beatings will stop when morale improves."
E. Teach, 1717

Short Wave Sportfishing September 7th 04 11:31 AM

On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 19:34:24 -0500, Maynard G. Krebbs
wrote:

snip

I was in the Corps 35+ years ago and I don't ever remember being
issued Marine sandpaper. ;)

Later,

Tom


Semper Fi, Mac!
Mark E. Williams


Semper Fi, man, Semper Fi...

Later,

Tom


Harry Krause September 7th 04 11:34 AM

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On 07 Sep 2004 03:34:07 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

** Was that your vocation in the marine corps...........polishing your
superiors brass??



He also shined their shoes.


:-(

Another on-topic thread bites the dust.

Oh well, how much can you really say about sandpaper, anyway?


It slices, it dices - it......

Um....

Never rmind.

Later,

Tom
S. Woodstock, CT
-----------


If you know what you are doing with it, you can use very very very fine
grit sandpaper to dress gelcoat. Or, with the right kind of sandpaper
and belt sander, sharpen a knife, though I prefer ceramic sharpening sticks.



--
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
And don't forget to pay your taxes so the rich don't have to!

Clams Canino September 7th 04 11:39 AM

OK.... this thread is over. I said so and I must be right. :p

-W

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message

The discussion has begun to take on an abrasive quality


That, ladies and germs, is funny.




RichG September 7th 04 12:23 PM

If you have a supply of old-fashioned "sandpaper" and wish you had read this
thread before you bought all of it...then you can greatly extend that
sandpaper's useful life by putting duct tape on the back of the paper. It
thickens the subsurface. RichG

--
RichG manager, Carolina Skiff Owners Group on MSN
http://groups.msn.com/CarolinaSkiffOwners



Short Wave Sportfishing September 7th 04 05:54 PM

On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 06:34:41 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On 07 Sep 2004 03:34:07 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

** Was that your vocation in the marine corps...........polishing your
superiors brass??



He also shined their shoes.

:-(

Another on-topic thread bites the dust.

Oh well, how much can you really say about sandpaper, anyway?


It slices, it dices - it......

Um....

Never rmind.

Later,

Tom
S. Woodstock, CT
-----------


If you know what you are doing with it, you can use very very very fine
grit sandpaper to dress gelcoat.


I found something like a liquid jewelers rouge by 3M that works like a
champ. It's not as harsh as a rubbing compound and you tend to use a
lot of it, but talk about touching up gellcoat - great job.

Or, with the right kind of sandpaper
and belt sander, sharpen a knife, though I prefer ceramic sharpening sticks.


I'm a wet stone and barber's strap kind of guy when I sharpen my
knifes. And of course, this is evidenced by the number of times my
wife has taken me to the ER for deep cuts from overly sharpened
knifes.

Take care.

Tom

"The beatings will stop when morale improves."
E. Teach, 1717

Short Wave Sportfishing September 7th 04 05:55 PM

On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 11:23:12 GMT, "RichG"
wrote:

If you have a supply of old-fashioned "sandpaper" and wish you had read this
thread before you bought all of it...then you can greatly extend that
sandpaper's useful life by putting duct tape on the back of the paper. It
thickens the subsurface. RichG


Neat tip - I'll try that this winter.

Later,

Tom

Harry Krause September 7th 04 06:04 PM

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 11:23:12 GMT, "RichG"
wrote:

If you have a supply of old-fashioned "sandpaper" and wish you had read this
thread before you bought all of it...then you can greatly extend that
sandpaper's useful life by putting duct tape on the back of the paper. It
thickens the subsurface. RichG


Neat tip - I'll try that this winter.

Later,

Tom


It's not a real summer unless you have to visit the ER with blood
pouring out of some new orifice.



--
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
And don't forget to pay your taxes so the rich don't have to!

Clams Canino September 7th 04 06:28 PM

I didn't visit the ER, but I've had my fair share of holes. Was gutting the
pool cabana for a remodel and it seems *every* stray nail wanted a piece of
me. I got three holes in one day. Even had a 2x4 swing on some old romex
come 360 and stuck me from behind. It was all kind of funny except for the
nail holes. Later when I was burning the scrap I saw one of the stained
nails as I was tossing a piece into the bonfire. Made me shake my head as I
threw that piece in.

-W (tetnus up to date, and a good thing too)

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news:2q683pFrbhrlU1@uni-

It's not a real summer unless you have to visit the ER with blood
pouring out of some new orifice.




Short Wave Sportfishing September 7th 04 08:36 PM

On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 17:28:10 GMT, "Clams Canino"
wrote:

I didn't visit the ER, but I've had my fair share of holes. Was gutting the
pool cabana for a remodel and it seems *every* stray nail wanted a piece of
me. I got three holes in one day. Even had a 2x4 swing on some old romex
come 360 and stuck me from behind. It was all kind of funny except for the
nail holes. Later when I was burning the scrap I saw one of the stained
nails as I was tossing a piece into the bonfire. Made me shake my head as I
threw that piece in.


There is one thing that I have never done and never will because I
will never use one.

What, I hear you asking, would that be?

A nail gun.

I know, without even thinking about it, that I would manage to shoot
myself with one, saftey switch or no safety switch.

Later,

Tom

jim-- September 7th 04 08:43 PM


"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...

It was a bottle of braso and piece of cloth!


** Was that your vocation in the marine corps...........polishing your
superiors brass??



Once again Don comes into the picture to ruin a perfectly fine thread. Way
to go Don.



LaBomba182 September 7th 04 08:59 PM

Subject: Excellent Sandpaper
From: (Gould 0738)


** Was that your vocation in the marine corps...........polishing your
superiors brass??



He also shined their shoes.


:-(

Another on-topic thread bites the dust.

Oh well, how much can you really say about sandpaper, anyway?


Yeah, it can be a rough subject.

Capt. Bill






Clams Canino September 7th 04 09:05 PM

Same here. Never will use one.

I can hurt myself plenty without the aid of more power tools.

-W

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message

What, I hear you asking, would that be?

A nail gun.

I know, without even thinking about it, that I would manage to shoot
myself with one, saftey switch or no safety switch.

Later,

Tom




Don White September 7th 04 10:51 PM


" jim--" wrote in message
Once again Don comes into the picture to ruin a perfectly fine thread.

Way
to go Don.

Sorry to upset you Denny...should we declare any abrasive posts as 'banned
in Cleveland'?



Petey the Wonder Dog September 8th 04 12:36 AM

Far as I can tell, someone wrote:
Semper Fi, Mac!
Mark E. Williams


Semper Fidelis to you guys too!

Don White September 8th 04 03:26 PM


"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
What have you done for Canada but prove that you are a whiney little self
indulgent bitch?


You got me thinking Bertram......
Probably the greatest thing I could do for my country is working my hardest
to make sure that no wacky right wing, neo conservative, religious
fundalmentalist ever takes control here. Thanks for bringing that up. Too
often we take things for granted.



jim-- September 8th 04 03:35 PM


"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
What have you done for Canada but prove that you are a whiney little self
indulgent bitch?


You got me thinking Bertram......
Probably the greatest thing I could do for my country is working my
hardest
to make sure that no wacky right wing, neo conservative, religious
fundalmentalist ever takes control here. Thanks for bringing that up.
Too
often we take things for granted.



We have no need for your socialist Country.



Gould 0738 September 8th 04 04:04 PM

We have no need for your socialist Country.

Somebody let the president in here?

Don White September 8th 04 05:34 PM


" jim--" wrote in message
...

We have no need for your socialist Country.



Good! That means you'll keep your 'Manifest Destiny' hands off us...right?



Clams Canino September 8th 04 05:44 PM

For now........ EG

-W

"Don White" wrote in message
...

" jim--" wrote in message
...

We have no need for your socialist Country.



Good! That means you'll keep your 'Manifest Destiny' hands off us...right?





thunder September 8th 04 08:07 PM

On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 10:35:35 -0400, jim-- wrote:


We have no need for your socialist Country.


LOL, you do understand that Canada is our largest trading partner?

jim-- September 8th 04 08:14 PM


"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 10:35:35 -0400, jim-- wrote:


We have no need for your socialist Country.


LOL, you do understand that Canada is our largest trading partner?


I certainly know they are an important economic partner. I cannot say
whether or not they are the largest importer/purchaser of our products .

Regardless, I should have said no need to *take over* the country.

Thanks for the correction.



Paul Schilter September 9th 04 02:09 AM

Don,
Uncalled for!
Paul

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...

It was a bottle of braso and piece of cloth!


** Was that your vocation in the marine corps...........polishing your
superiors brass??





Paul Schilter September 9th 04 02:12 AM

thunder,
Do you know how much of Toronto's garbage we take here is SE lower
Michigan? Lots!
Paul

"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 10:35:35 -0400, jim-- wrote:


We have no need for your socialist Country.


LOL, you do understand that Canada is our largest trading partner?




Paul Schilter September 9th 04 02:13 AM

Wayne,.
:-)
Paul

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On 07 Sep 2004 03:34:07 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

how much can you really say about sandpaper, anyway?


==============================================

The discussion has begun to take on an abrasive quality




Paul Schilter September 9th 04 02:14 AM

Clams,
Only when it comes to two stroke outboards. :-)
Paul

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
ink.net...
OK.... this thread is over. I said so and I must be right. :p

-W

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
message

The discussion has begun to take on an abrasive quality


That, ladies and germs, is funny.






Paul Schilter September 9th 04 02:30 AM

Tom,
Well so much for the idea it's a dull knife that gets you. :-) Haven't
tried a strop, I use a wet stone and then a ceramic stick. Shaves.
Paul


snipped
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 06:34:41 -0400, Harry Krause
I'm a wet stone and barber's strap kind of guy when I sharpen my
knifes. And of course, this is evidenced by the number of times my
wife has taken me to the ER for deep cuts from overly sharpened
knifes.

Take care.

Tom

"The beatings will stop when morale improves."
E. Teach, 1717





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