And you don't think this same sort of arm twisting goes on on the other
side of the isle?

Don't be so naive. Welcome to the ugly reality of politics.

Dave


You guys are so predictable:

When caught with your hand in the cookie jar-(up to the elbow)- you never say

"That really is embarassing! Certainly not a proud moment for the right wing.
We should pressure the party leadership to make sure this sort of thing doesn;t
happen again.."

Nope.

What we hear instead is "The left wing does this all the time. Clinton did it
every day. Gore invented the practice originally.
Hillary went back to colege to earn a PhD in the subject....." yada, yada, yada
(Even though the D's are not currently in the spotlight for the same practice
and no specific instance is offered as an example)

After hundreds of excuses for unethical or even borderline criminal behavior
all sounding like "He/She hit me first, Mama!"
your side then has the 'nads to tell us all how you're a superior alternative
the D party. How can that be, when you copy all of their (alleged) misdeeds?

Gould 0738 wrote:

And you don't think this same sort of arm twisting goes on on the other
side of the isle?

Don't be so naive. Welcome to the ugly reality of politics.

Dave


You guys are so predictable:

When caught with your hand in the cookie jar-(up to the elbow)- you never say

"That really is embarassing! Certainly not a proud moment for the right wing.
We should pressure the party leadership to make sure this sort of thing doesn;t
happen again.."

Nope.

What we hear instead is "The left wing does this all the time. Clinton did it
every day. Gore invented the practice originally.
Hillary went back to colege to earn a PhD in the subject....." yada, yada, yada
(Even though the D's are not currently in the spotlight for the same practice
and no specific instance is offered as an example)

After hundreds of excuses for unethical or even borderline criminal behavior
all sounding like "He/She hit me first, Mama!"
your side then has the 'nads to tell us all how you're a superior alternative
the D party. How can that be, when you copy all of their (alleged) misdeeds?


The point is that this is a nothing revelation. Unless you were born
yesterday, you'd know that there is a certain amount of palm greasing
which goes on on both sides of the aisle. I'm not condoning it, or
suggesting that this is behavior we should be proud of.

But for the democrats to seize upon this "Much ado about nothing" issue,
reflects the desperation and hypocricy that has become the status quo of
the democratic party since their loss in 2000. They do nothing but sling
mud. What positive issues have they offered up which isn't simply a slam
of the republican party?

I repeat, until the democrats can come up with a positive platform,
which outlines exactly what (and how) they want to do to improve this
country, and not simply to hold themselves up as the "anti-republicans",
they don't stand a chance.

The "I am not Bush" platform is not enough for me, and for most of the
people who I associate with.

Dave

The "I am not Bush" platform is not enough for me, and for most of the
people who I associate with.

Dave


Be frank, Dave. A verifiable "I am God" platform wouldn't snag your vote,
unless the Almighty just happened to be a Republican. :-)

If God were our President, I suspect we wouldn't have to worry about
national security. Besides being omniscient, He throws a mean thunderbolt
for surgical strikes. Also, His WMD's are second to none. If He were a
Democrat, He's the sole candidate that could get my vote. Since He's not,
it looks like I'll be voting for Bush again.



"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
The "I am not Bush" platform is not enough for me, and for most of the
people who I associate with.

Dave


Be frank, Dave. A verifiable "I am God" platform wouldn't snag your vote,
unless the Almighty just happened to be a Republican. :-)

"NOYB" wrote in message link.net...
If God were our President, I suspect we wouldn't have to worry about
national security. Besides being omniscient, He throws a mean thunderbolt
for surgical strikes. Also, His WMD's are second to none. If He were a
Democrat, He's the sole candidate that could get my vote. Since He's not,
it looks like I'll be voting for Bush again.

That is just the kind of head-in-the-sand, if it's a republican, it
HAS to be good kind of attitude that turned me away from the
republican party.

"basskisser" wrote in message

That is just the kind of head-in-the-sand, if it's a republican, it
HAS to be good kind of attitude that turned me away from the
republican party.

So now you stick with the intelligent, rational, '..if it is NOT republican,
it HAS to be good...' Quite an improvement. I prefer the arrogant libs
'...if you truly understood the issue, you couldn't help but agree with
us...'

Gould 0738 wrote:

The "I am not Bush" platform is not enough for me, and for most of the
people who I associate with.

Dave


Be frank, Dave. A verifiable "I am God" platform wouldn't snag your vote,
unless the Almighty just happened to be a Republican. :-)

He is ;-)

Dave

"Dave Hall" wrote in message

He is ;-)

I heard the opinion offered yesterday that the success of the Dean campaign
is proof-positive that God favors Republicans. :-)

Dave Hall wrote:

...I repeat, until the democrats can come up with a positive platform,
which outlines exactly what (and how) they want to do to improve this
country, and not simply to hold themselves up as the "anti-republicans",
they don't stand a chance.

I would also like to see more positive statements from the leading Democratic
candidates. However, you seem eager to dismiss very real problems with the
Republicans. Just because the Democrats say it doesn't make it a lie, nor
unimportant. Election tampering, gerrymandering, and campaign fund arm twisting
should not be shrugged off.





The "I am not Bush" platform is not enough for me, and for most of the
people who I associate with.

Actually, it seems that more people are likely to vote against Bush than for anybody
else.

DSK

DSK wrote:

Dave Hall wrote:

...I repeat, until the democrats can come up with a positive platform,
which outlines exactly what (and how) they want to do to improve this
country, and not simply to hold themselves up as the "anti-republicans",
they don't stand a chance.

I would also like to see more positive statements from the leading Democratic
candidates. However, you seem eager to dismiss very real problems with the
Republicans. Just because the Democrats say it doesn't make it a lie, nor
unimportant. Election tampering, gerrymandering, and campaign fund arm twisting
should not be shrugged off.

I agree, but I see no evidence that these incidents are any more
prevelant on the republican side, than the democratic side. I'm
notsaying it makes it right, but I tend to look at them as "offsetting
penalties". No one gets 15 yards or a 1st down.





The "I am not Bush" platform is not enough for me, and for most of the
people who I associate with.

Actually, it seems that more people are likely to vote against Bush than for anybody
else.

Bush's approval rating is over 50%. That in itself makes that statement
unlikely.

Dave



DSK