Gould 0738 wrote:

It's a shame that the democrats offer no real platform of their own or
offer any viable alternatives to the path we're currently on. Their only
campaign issue is throwing mud at Bush. It's sad, truly sad.

Dave

Don't be so sad, Dave.

There's a new "campaign" issue for the Democrats just coming to light today.

I wish I lived in the home state of the brave
Republican who just fessed up that he was offered $100,000 in campaign
financing if he would drop his opposition to Bush's Medicare reform bill and
vote "yes" rather than "no". I'd vote for a guy with that kind of integrity in
a heart beat.

Apparently this guy is about to retire, and his son is going to run for his
seat. The $100k was to be given to the son's campaign. The rep was told by the
backers of Bush's bill that if he *didn't* go along and change his vote to
"yes", that the party would not only withhold the $100k bribe, but would work
to insure that his son was defeated.

This guy could afford to come forward because he *refused* the bribe. How many
others accepted the bribe and voted for Bush's bill? You can bet we won't be
hearing any complaints from them.
I'd like to see every representative that accepted money for their vote resign.
Democrats and Republicans alike. I'd like to see every cabinet level
administrator
involved with offering the bribes criminally prosecuted. If Bush was aware of
the bribes, he should be impeached.

Shall we believe this was the *only* instance? Wouldn't make sense, as the bill
passed by a comfortable margin.

Pretty sleeeeezy, guys. Y'all ought to be ashamed. Not much changes in the GOP
from one decade to the next. The GOP works hard to see that we have the best
darn government money can buy.


And you don't think this same sort of arm twisting goes on on the other
side of the isle?

Don't be so naive. Welcome to the ugly reality of politics.

Dave

And you don't think this same sort of arm twisting goes on on the other
side of the isle?

Don't be so naive. Welcome to the ugly reality of politics.

Dave


You guys are so predictable:

When caught with your hand in the cookie jar-(up to the elbow)- you never say

"That really is embarassing! Certainly not a proud moment for the right wing.
We should pressure the party leadership to make sure this sort of thing doesn;t
happen again.."

Nope.

What we hear instead is "The left wing does this all the time. Clinton did it
every day. Gore invented the practice originally.
Hillary went back to colege to earn a PhD in the subject....." yada, yada, yada
(Even though the D's are not currently in the spotlight for the same practice
and no specific instance is offered as an example)

After hundreds of excuses for unethical or even borderline criminal behavior
all sounding like "He/She hit me first, Mama!"
your side then has the 'nads to tell us all how you're a superior alternative
the D party. How can that be, when you copy all of their (alleged) misdeeds?

Gould 0738 wrote:

And you don't think this same sort of arm twisting goes on on the other
side of the isle?

Don't be so naive. Welcome to the ugly reality of politics.

Dave


You guys are so predictable:

When caught with your hand in the cookie jar-(up to the elbow)- you never say

"That really is embarassing! Certainly not a proud moment for the right wing.
We should pressure the party leadership to make sure this sort of thing doesn;t
happen again.."

Nope.

What we hear instead is "The left wing does this all the time. Clinton did it
every day. Gore invented the practice originally.
Hillary went back to colege to earn a PhD in the subject....." yada, yada, yada
(Even though the D's are not currently in the spotlight for the same practice
and no specific instance is offered as an example)

After hundreds of excuses for unethical or even borderline criminal behavior
all sounding like "He/She hit me first, Mama!"
your side then has the 'nads to tell us all how you're a superior alternative
the D party. How can that be, when you copy all of their (alleged) misdeeds?


The point is that this is a nothing revelation. Unless you were born
yesterday, you'd know that there is a certain amount of palm greasing
which goes on on both sides of the aisle. I'm not condoning it, or
suggesting that this is behavior we should be proud of.

But for the democrats to seize upon this "Much ado about nothing" issue,
reflects the desperation and hypocricy that has become the status quo of
the democratic party since their loss in 2000. They do nothing but sling
mud. What positive issues have they offered up which isn't simply a slam
of the republican party?

I repeat, until the democrats can come up with a positive platform,
which outlines exactly what (and how) they want to do to improve this
country, and not simply to hold themselves up as the "anti-republicans",
they don't stand a chance.

The "I am not Bush" platform is not enough for me, and for most of the
people who I associate with.

Dave

The "I am not Bush" platform is not enough for me, and for most of the
people who I associate with.

Dave


Be frank, Dave. A verifiable "I am God" platform wouldn't snag your vote,
unless the Almighty just happened to be a Republican. :-)

If God were our President, I suspect we wouldn't have to worry about
national security. Besides being omniscient, He throws a mean thunderbolt
for surgical strikes. Also, His WMD's are second to none. If He were a
Democrat, He's the sole candidate that could get my vote. Since He's not,
it looks like I'll be voting for Bush again.



"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
The "I am not Bush" platform is not enough for me, and for most of the
people who I associate with.

Dave


Be frank, Dave. A verifiable "I am God" platform wouldn't snag your vote,
unless the Almighty just happened to be a Republican. :-)

"NOYB" wrote in message link.net...
If God were our President, I suspect we wouldn't have to worry about
national security. Besides being omniscient, He throws a mean thunderbolt
for surgical strikes. Also, His WMD's are second to none. If He were a
Democrat, He's the sole candidate that could get my vote. Since He's not,
it looks like I'll be voting for Bush again.

That is just the kind of head-in-the-sand, if it's a republican, it
HAS to be good kind of attitude that turned me away from the
republican party.

"basskisser" wrote in message

That is just the kind of head-in-the-sand, if it's a republican, it
HAS to be good kind of attitude that turned me away from the
republican party.

So now you stick with the intelligent, rational, '..if it is NOT republican,
it HAS to be good...' Quite an improvement. I prefer the arrogant libs
'...if you truly understood the issue, you couldn't help but agree with
us...'

Gould 0738 wrote:

The "I am not Bush" platform is not enough for me, and for most of the
people who I associate with.

Dave


Be frank, Dave. A verifiable "I am God" platform wouldn't snag your vote,
unless the Almighty just happened to be a Republican. :-)

He is ;-)

Dave

"Dave Hall" wrote in message

He is ;-)

I heard the opinion offered yesterday that the success of the Dean campaign
is proof-positive that God favors Republicans. :-)

Dave Hall wrote:

...I repeat, until the democrats can come up with a positive platform,
which outlines exactly what (and how) they want to do to improve this
country, and not simply to hold themselves up as the "anti-republicans",
they don't stand a chance.

I would also like to see more positive statements from the leading Democratic
candidates. However, you seem eager to dismiss very real problems with the
Republicans. Just because the Democrats say it doesn't make it a lie, nor
unimportant. Election tampering, gerrymandering, and campaign fund arm twisting
should not be shrugged off.





The "I am not Bush" platform is not enough for me, and for most of the
people who I associate with.

Actually, it seems that more people are likely to vote against Bush than for anybody
else.

DSK