Jeepers wrote:

In article ,
WaIIy wrote:

Well, I suppose it was better when Kerry said he "couldn't think" for 45
minutes.

Of course, that might be an improvement.

And we'd be apologizing to the entire Arab world if Gore had been
elected.



On what basis would you make a statement like that?

It is perfectly reasonable to assume that had Gore not been cheated out
of the election, we would have had a POTUS who had stayed engaged in the
Israeli-Palestinian peace process, and the 9-11 attacks, which had been
planned for a long time, might have been put on hold or even cancelled.




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In article ,
Harry Krause wrote:

9-11 attacks, which had been
planned for a long time, might have been put on hold or even cancelled.



Yeah, right. What might have been.

Both Bush and Kerry are cut from two side of the same cloth.

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Jeepers wrote:

In article ,
WaIIy wrote:

Well, I suppose it was better when Kerry said he "couldn't think" for 45
minutes.

Of course, that might be an improvement.

And we'd be apologizing to the entire Arab world if Gore had been
elected.



On what basis would you make a statement like that?

It is perfectly reasonable to assume that had Gore not been cheated out
of the election, .......

LMAO. You are still not over the fact that Bush won fair and square.
Unbelievable.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Jeepers wrote:

In article ,
WaIIy wrote:

Well, I suppose it was better when Kerry said he "couldn't think" for
45
minutes.

Of course, that might be an improvement.

And we'd be apologizing to the entire Arab world if Gore had been
elected.



On what basis would you make a statement like that?

It is perfectly reasonable to assume that had Gore not been cheated out
of the election, we would have had a POTUS who had stayed engaged in the
Israeli-Palestinian peace process, and the 9-11 attacks, which had been
planned for a long time, might have been put on hold or even cancelled.

Yeah, sure, Harry.

dixon,
Well that was clever. :-)
Paul

"dixon" wrote in message
news:8P1Zc.9517$_g7.9470@attbi_s52...
After seeing the movie 9/11, I saw some very obvious lies on moores part.
The part is surely trick photography where bush sits in a class of kids
with
a deer in the headlights look on his face for seven minutes after hearing
the country is being attacked. No world leader, in this nuclear age would
ever do anything that stupid. Is moore seriously trying to make us believe
that with jet pilots working like a nascar pit crew to practice getting
airborne quickly, the president would be such an idiot to do nothing while
planes were on thier way to the pentagon? Other than this everything else
seemed believable in the movie.

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Dixon

dixon,
Well true enough, before 9/11 a highjacking meant you had to detour to
Cuba, nothing to get too excited about.
Paul

"dixon" wrote in message
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Dixon
"Jeepers" wrote in message
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In article 8P1Zc.9517$_g7.9470@attbi_s52,
"dixon" wrote:

After seeing the movie 9/11, I saw some very obvious lies on moores
part.
The part is surely trick photography where bush sits in a class of kids
with
a deer in the headlights look on his face for seven minutes after
hearing
the country is being attacked. No world leader, in this nuclear age
would
ever do anything that stupid. Is moore seriously trying to make us
believe
that with jet pilots working like a nascar pit crew to practice getting
airborne quickly, the president would be such an idiot to do nothing
while
planes were on thier way to the pentagon? Other than this everything
else
seemed believable in the movie.

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Dixon

While I hate to admit it it's true. However, I have no problem with his
reaction at all. He did not have all the facts and by the time he did,
it was all over.

I heard it said if we lived three hundred years ago and the president
heard
there were ships just leaving Europe to attack us, then it probably would
be
an acceptable reaction. Realisticly, with nothing like this happening to
us
in so long, I suppose it is a semi-justified reaction. I'm sure that
anyone
in charge now would react instantly, but hindsight is 20/20.

dixon



Read the 911 report. It's available as a free PDF download. No excuses
for NOT doing it.

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Paul Schilter wrote:
dixon,
Well true enough, before 9/11 a highjacking meant you had to detour to
Cuba, nothing to get too excited about.
Paul

In the early 1970's, some fool hijacked a Fairchild-Hiller prop jet from
White Plains, NY, and demanded to be flown to somewhere out on Long Island.

At least one aspect of the ease of airliner hijackings should have been
resolved years ago...the cockpit door and the bulkhead between the
cockpit and cabins should have been burst-proof and bullet-proof long
before 9-11, and the door should remain closed during the flight.


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WaIIy wrote:
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 18:44:45 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Paul Schilter wrote:
dixon,
Well true enough, before 9/11 a highjacking meant you had to detour to
Cuba, nothing to get too excited about.
Paul

In the early 1970's, some fool hijacked a Fairchild-Hiller prop jet from
White Plains, NY, and demanded to be flown to somewhere out on Long Island.

At least one aspect of the ease of airliner hijackings should have been
resolved years ago...the cockpit door and the bulkhead between the
cockpit and cabins should have been burst-proof and bullet-proof long
before 9-11, and the door should remain closed during the flight.

I agree with you on this one. It's shame on all administrations for not
getting this done.

It's more than just a political problem that our Executive or
legislative branches should have addressed. After the first few
hijackings decades ago, it should have occurred to the airlines and
their suppliers that serious security reinforcement was needed between
the cockpit and the cabin. Building in such security during the design
phase is simple and cheap; retrofitting is expensive.


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dixon wrote:

After seeing the movie 9/11, I saw some very obvious lies on moores part.
The part is surely trick photography where bush sits in a class of kids with
a deer in the headlights look on his face for seven minutes after hearing
the country is being attacked. No world leader, in this nuclear age would
ever do anything that stupid. Is moore seriously trying to make us believe
that with jet pilots working like a nascar pit crew to practice getting
airborne quickly, the president would be such an idiot to do nothing while
planes were on thier way to the pentagon? Other than this everything else
seemed believable in the movie.

--


--
Dixon


This is very interesting, and a view that is common with our
conservative friends.

Dixon says "some very obvious lies", then points out one thing that's
undeniably true, then says "Other than this everything else seemed
believable in the movie."

Where are the obvious lies?

"Jim" wrote in message
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dixon wrote:

After seeing the movie 9/11, I saw some very obvious lies on moores
part.
The part is surely trick photography where bush sits in a class of kids
with
a deer in the headlights look on his face for seven minutes after
hearing
the country is being attacked. No world leader, in this nuclear age
would
ever do anything that stupid. Is moore seriously trying to make us
believe
that with jet pilots working like a nascar pit crew to practice getting
airborne quickly, the president would be such an idiot to do nothing
while
planes were on thier way to the pentagon? Other than this everything
else
seemed believable in the movie.

--


--
Dixon


This is very interesting, and a view that is common with our
conservative friends.

Dixon says "some very obvious lies", then points out one thing that's
undeniably true, then says "Other than this everything else seemed
believable in the movie."

Where are the obvious lies?

There are a number of them. One of them, for instance, is the claim that
Bush was responsible for members of the Saudi family leaving the US 2 days
after 9/11. Richard Clarke's 9/11 testimony (made *before* the movie was
released) showed that it was Clarke who granted permission for them to
leave. There are dozens of other examples. Do a google search and you'll
find them.