On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:32:46 -0400, JohnH
wrote:


I agree with the idea of allowing UN folks to accompany those who are too damn
stupid to vote properly.

John H

So people who were unjustifiably put on a fellons list, and those that
were denied access to voting places by police road blocks are too damn
stupid to vote now? Nice rationalization, JohnH.

bb

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And how hard should we guffaw while we note that, as Kerry was
volunteering in Vietnam

Sorry, but Kerry applied to the draft board for a deferment to study in
Paris. When he was turned down, he enlisted in the Navy, with the idea that
he'd be on a ship at sea somewhere and never have go to Vietnam.

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And how hard should we guffaw while we note that, as Kerry was
volunteering in Vietnam

Sorry, but Kerry applied to the draft board for a deferment to study in
Paris. When he was turned down, he enlisted in the Navy, with the idea that
he'd be on a ship at sea somewhere and never have go to Vietnam.

Have any proof of that?

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And how hard should we guffaw while we note that, as Kerry was
volunteering in Vietnam

Sorry, but Kerry applied to the draft board for a deferment to study in
Paris. When he was turned down, he enlisted in the Navy, with the idea
that
he'd be on a ship at sea somewhere and never have go to Vietnam.

Have any proof of that?

Yes.

The Harvard Crimson newspaper followed a youthful Mr Kerry in Boston as he
campaigned for Congress for the first time in 1970. In the course of a
lengthy article, "John Kerry: A Navy Dove Runs for Congress", published on
February 18, the paper reported: "When he approached his draft board for
permission to study for a year in Paris, the draft board refused and Kerry
decided to enlist in the Navy."

The article was written on February 18th, 1970...so don't try to tell me
that it's just a partisan political attack.

"NOYB" wrote
... Kerry applied to the draft board for a deferment to study in
Paris. When he was turned down, he enlisted in the Navy, with the idea
that
he'd be on a ship at sea somewhere and never have go to Vietnam.


Have any proof of that?


It's rather difficult to "prove" what somebody else was thinking... even
more difficult when it was 30+ years ago... almost as difficult as
proving that George Bush Jr. showed up for his ANG duty.

NOYB wrote:
Yes.

The Harvard Crimson newspaper followed a youthful Mr Kerry in Boston as he
campaigned for Congress for the first time in 1970. In the course of a
lengthy article, "John Kerry: A Navy Dove Runs for Congress", published on
February 18, the paper reported: "When he approached his draft board for
permission to study for a year in Paris, the draft board refused and Kerry
decided to enlist in the Navy."

How does this prove that he joined the Navy "with the idea he'd be on a
ship at sea somewhere and never have go to Vietnam." Odd how you
consider this article as "proof" when it doesn't even mention the concept.


The article was written on February 18th, 1970...so don't try to tell me
that it's just a partisan political attack.

Agreed. It's not any kind of attack. And thus, it utterly fails to prove
your point.

That Kerry applied for a deferment to study in Paris is not in dispute.
After all, Vice President Cheney applied for (and got) several similar
deferments.

Do you have some kind of mental problem linking cause and effect? It
must be relatively common among some types of people, for example those
who believe that they'd be better off becoming suicide bombers.

DSK

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"NOYB" wrote
... Kerry applied to the draft board for a deferment to study in
Paris. When he was turned down, he enlisted in the Navy, with the idea
that
he'd be on a ship at sea somewhere and never have go to Vietnam.


Have any proof of that?


It's rather difficult to "prove" what somebody else was thinking... even
more difficult when it was 30+ years ago... almost as difficult as
proving that George Bush Jr. showed up for his ANG duty.

NOYB wrote:
Yes.

The Harvard Crimson newspaper followed a youthful Mr Kerry in Boston as
he
campaigned for Congress for the first time in 1970. In the course of a
lengthy article, "John Kerry: A Navy Dove Runs for Congress", published
on
February 18, the paper reported: "When he approached his draft board for
permission to study for a year in Paris, the draft board refused and
Kerry
decided to enlist in the Navy."

How does this prove that he joined the Navy "with the idea he'd be on a
ship at sea somewhere and never have go to Vietnam." Odd how you
consider this article as "proof" when it doesn't even mention the concept.


Because that's what


The article was written on February 18th, 1970...so don't try to tell me
that it's just a partisan political attack.

Agreed. It's not any kind of attack. And thus, it utterly fails to prove
your point.

That Kerry applied for a deferment to study in Paris is not in dispute.
After all, Vice President Cheney applied for (and got) several similar
deferments.


....for which Cheney has taken a lot of heat. Just because guys like
Cheney and Bill Clinton were lucky enough (or well-connected enough) to get
deferments, doesn't make them any less brave than a guy who tried and failed
to get a deferment. Hvaing failed to get a deferment, and failed to get
stationed on a ship out of the combat zone, Kerry then fabricated the
circumstances of a couple of his purple hearts, so that he could flee the
country in a mere 4 months. But that's not the outrageous and unforgivable
part. Many people did whatever it took to save their lives back then.
What's truly outrageous, however, is that Kerry came back to the states and
provided propaganda for the enemy...the same propaganda that the Vietcong
tortured our guys to obtain. For that reason, he's unfit to be called
"Commander in Chief".

On 27 Aug 2004 09:20:43 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

Sentient Non-Idiots For Kerry
Repubs pick a fight about Vietnam while Bush ruins America right now?
Is the nation drunk?

By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist
Friday, August 27, 2004

Good article...thanks!

"Comcast News" wrote in message news:2rJXc.55086$9d6.30566@attbi_s54...
I am glad you are back to cut and pasting articles, it is something you are
much better at, than trying to discuss anything coherently.

PS - Did I tell you that cut and pasting is a violation of the copyright
laws and is stealing intellectual property. ; )

Did I tell you, you are stupid?

"P.Fritz" wrote in message ...
"Comcast News" wrote in message
news:2rJXc.55086$9d6.30566@attbi_s54...
I am glad you are back to cut and pasting articles, it is something you
are
much better at, than trying to discuss anything coherently.

PS - Did I tell you that cut and pasting is a violation of the copyright
laws and is stealing intellectual property. ; )

yeah....but mark morford is anything but intellectual :-)

Tell me, what do you know of him? Why would you say he's anything but
intellectual? Oh, I know, because you don't agree with him!!!!!
Man, you are one stupid person....