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Peter Janssen November 26th 03 11:28 PM

Night vision scope
 
I need some advise on purchasing a night vision scope (1st generation).
Possible candidates a
- Newcon MB-3
- Rigel 1100
- ATN Night Leopard
- ATN Night Storm

Can anybody, preferably from own experiences with one or more of these
scopes, advise me on wich one to buy regarding the quality of the image?
Advise about other scopes, reviews, etc. are also welcome!

Thanks in advance,

Kind regards,

Peter Janssen, The Netherlands


Don White November 27th 03 01:51 AM

Night vision scope
 
Why?
It must be illegal to hunt at night over there.


Peter Janssen wrote in message
...
I need some advise on purchasing a night vision scope (1st generation).
Possible candidates a
- Newcon MB-3
- Rigel 1100
- ATN Night Leopard
- ATN Night Storm

Can anybody, preferably from own experiences with one or more of these
scopes, advise me on wich one to buy regarding the quality of the image?
Advise about other scopes, reviews, etc. are also welcome!

Thanks in advance,

Kind regards,

Peter Janssen, The Netherlands




bomar November 27th 03 02:12 PM

Night vision scope
 
Night is the best time to hunt spotted owls!


"Don White" wrote
Why?
It must be illegal to hunt at night over there.


Peter Janssen wrote

....
I need some advise on purchasing a night vision scope (1st generation).
Possible candidates a
-


Peter Janssen, The Netherlands






Paul Schilter November 27th 03 06:45 PM

Night vision scope
 
Don,
Maybe he's a night boater.
Paul

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Why?
It must be illegal to hunt at night over there.


Peter Janssen wrote in message
...
I need some advise on purchasing a night vision scope (1st generation).
Possible candidates a
- Newcon MB-3
- Rigel 1100
- ATN Night Leopard
- ATN Night Storm

Can anybody, preferably from own experiences with one or more of these
scopes, advise me on wich one to buy regarding the quality of the image?
Advise about other scopes, reviews, etc. are also welcome!

Thanks in advance,

Kind regards,

Peter Janssen, The Netherlands






JimL November 27th 03 08:18 PM

Night vision scope
 
Regarding above posts, the models that Peter has listed are not
rifle scopes! These are all night vision monoculars. If you've
never used one, they are cool toys! And no, I don't do any night
hunting! :^)

-JimL


Don White November 28th 03 03:43 AM

Night vision scope
 
That's better. My nephew received a night vision unit for Christmas last
year.
I haven't had a chance to try it yet.

JimL wrote in message
...
Regarding above posts, the models that Peter has listed are not
rifle scopes! These are all night vision monoculars. If you've
never used one, they are cool toys! And no, I don't do any night
hunting! :^)

-JimL




JimL November 28th 03 09:30 PM

Night vision scope
 
Peter,

I have no personal experience with any of the models you listed,
but hope you realize that 1st generation are not known for
longevity. I don't remember just how short that life expectancy
is though. Personally, I have a Night Owl Optics model NODS3.
I don't use it a lot, but it is really a cool toy! At least in
the USA, it seems that all of these units are imported from
Russia. Not that this is a problem, I just don't know how many
manufacturers there actually are there, so I don't know if one
would be that much better than another or if it's mostly
marketing/packaging differences.

What is your application for the night vision? IF you intend to
use it a lot and especially in a high moisture environment, then
definitely consider one of the waterproof models you listed.
Mine isn't waterproof but I haven't really had the need for that
feature. I haven't done any night fishing in the boat (yet) but
would still take mine along if I did. I would just need to take
extra precautions not to get it wet. Even though mine is a lower
end unit, I'm very satisfied with the image quality. I also
appreciate the fact that it runs on 2 AA batteries. Since I have
so much stuff using AA's, I have a pile of Ni-Mh and they work
well with the unit.

Again, I don't have any personal experience with the models you
listed, but it seems to me that you need to mainly consider the
features of those models to make your decision based on your
usage.

-JimL





Almus Kenter December 11th 03 11:25 AM

Night vision scope
 
Peter Janssen wrote:
: I need some advise on purchasing a night vision scope (1st generation).
: Possible candidates a
: - Newcon MB-3
: - Rigel 1100
: - ATN Night Leopard
: - ATN Night Storm

: Can anybody, preferably from own experiences with one or more of these
: scopes, advise me on wich one to buy regarding the quality of the image?
: Advise about other scopes, reviews, etc. are also welcome!

: Thanks in advance,

: Kind regards,

: Peter Janssen, The Netherlands



All the first generation units are pretty poor in terms
of imaging quality; they all have poor contrast, substantial distortion etc.
I *highly* recommend that you look through them to get an idea of what
you are getting; the pictures in the catalogs showing
extremely clear images of owls, coyotes are a far cry from
what you will see. All the 1st gen ones have simple image intensifiers.
I have compared them with my sony video ccd which has nightshot (tm)
and the video camera is much better. 3d gen microchannel plate units
are another story; imaging (and price) are an order of magnitude
greater.


-A

Richard Curtis December 11th 03 03:52 PM

Night vision scope
 
I too, tried a second generation. My boy and I carried a first and a second
gen unit to the house overnight. They ARE junk in the real world. I also
have a Sony video camera with NightShot(c). It works better. The third
generation, which is really good is just too much money for my use, hince
the video camera.
"Almus Kenter" wrote in message
...
Peter Janssen wrote:
: I need some advise on purchasing a night vision scope (1st generation).
: Possible candidates a
: - Newcon MB-3
: - Rigel 1100
: - ATN Night Leopard
: - ATN Night Storm

: Can anybody, preferably from own experiences with one or more of these
: scopes, advise me on wich one to buy regarding the quality of the image?
: Advise about other scopes, reviews, etc. are also welcome!

: Thanks in advance,

: Kind regards,

: Peter Janssen, The Netherlands



All the first generation units are pretty poor in terms
of imaging quality; they all have poor contrast, substantial distortion

etc.
I *highly* recommend that you look through them to get an idea of what
you are getting; the pictures in the catalogs showing
extremely clear images of owls, coyotes are a far cry from
what you will see. All the 1st gen ones have simple image intensifiers.
I have compared them with my sony video ccd which has nightshot (tm)
and the video camera is much better. 3d gen microchannel plate units
are another story; imaging (and price) are an order of magnitude
greater.


-A





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