Am I the only one annoyed by this?
 

rant
Fishing. Everywhere, more anglers and more fishing line. Not only do I
need to worry about not hitting their lines or "getting too close" to them,
but I also find my paddle and occasionally my rudder fouled by old discarded
fishing line. Everywhere.

Oh, and when they're about to cast, they look impatient while I pass by. As
if that 10 seconds extra time for me to pass is going to cost them the "big
catch of the day". A few of the more ignorant ones don't even care - they
just cast off anyway.

This is the case with ALL of the rivers and smaller lakes nearby. I'm
beginning to wonder which is worse: jetski's or anglers...

/rant
--
"Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither."
- B. Franklin

Yes, you are the only one annoyed by this. The rest of us are fishing out
of our canoes as we paddle so we can get the "big" catch of the day :-)

Shot


"Professional Target" wrote in message
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rant
Fishing. Everywhere, more anglers and more fishing line. Not only do I
need to worry about not hitting their lines or "getting too close" to
them,
but I also find my paddle and occasionally my rudder fouled by old
discarded
fishing line. Everywhere.

Oh, and when they're about to cast, they look impatient while I pass by.
As
if that 10 seconds extra time for me to pass is going to cost them the
"big
catch of the day". A few of the more ignorant ones don't even care - they
just cast off anyway.

This is the case with ALL of the rivers and smaller lakes nearby. I'm
beginning to wonder which is worse: jetski's or anglers...

/rant
--
"Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither."
- B. Franklin

Who was there first, you or the fishermen? If you are within casting range
you are just being plain rude. You should take the ethical high ground and
give them wide birth. Goes a long way towards local relations.

"Hotshot" wrote in message
r.com...
Yes, you are the only one annoyed by this. The rest of us are fishing out
of our canoes as we paddle so we can get the "big" catch of the day :-)

Shot


"Professional Target" wrote in message
...
rant
Fishing. Everywhere, more anglers and more fishing line. Not only do
I
need to worry about not hitting their lines or "getting too close" to
them,
but I also find my paddle and occasionally my rudder fouled by old
discarded
fishing line. Everywhere.

Oh, and when they're about to cast, they look impatient while I pass by.
As
if that 10 seconds extra time for me to pass is going to cost them the
"big
catch of the day". A few of the more ignorant ones don't even care -
they
just cast off anyway.

This is the case with ALL of the rivers and smaller lakes nearby. I'm
beginning to wonder which is worse: jetski's or anglers...

/rant
--
"Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither."
- B. Franklin

"Ed" writes:

Who was there first, you or the fishermen? If you are within casting range
you are just being plain rude. You should take the ethical high ground and
give them wide birth. Goes a long way towards local relations.

I always give them plenty of room. sometimes, in tight spots, it's not
always possible, though, but for the most part, I stay as far away from
them as possible. I don't look forward to digging some beer-mellowed idiot's
fish hook out of my eyeball...

--
Man is the only animal that laughs and weeps, for he is the only animal
that is struck with the difference between what things are and what they
ought to be.

I do find fishing line when paddling which I know cripples wildlife so I
gather it up. I also fretieve fishing tackle like floats and lures entangled
in weeds and branches and give it away to fishermen I meet on the river.

The only encouters I've had were one summer when I bought a fishing
licence and had paddlers cutting corners on river bends paddling over my
line inside the highly visible float. Mostly they were from a local canoe
club and were too insensitive to alter course. They acted like dumb
animals. They could see the fishing float, looked embarassed, and some
even appologized, as they paddled over my line. Why they wouldn't alter
course is beyond my comprehesion. The many ducks who are reputed to be
less intelligent would alter course. Humans? Intelligent? No evidence of
it there.

Professional Target ) writes:
rant
Fishing. Everywhere, more anglers and more fishing line. Not only do I
need to worry about not hitting their lines or "getting too close" to them,
but I also find my paddle and occasionally my rudder fouled by old discarded
fishing line. Everywhere.

Oh, and when they're about to cast, they look impatient while I pass by. As
if that 10 seconds extra time for me to pass is going to cost them the "big
catch of the day". A few of the more ignorant ones don't even care - they
just cast off anyway.

This is the case with ALL of the rivers and smaller lakes nearby. I'm
beginning to wonder which is worse: jetski's or anglers...

/rant
--
"Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither."
- B. Franklin


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Sure, anglers can be a lot of trouble, but of you think that's bad, come
to the Belgian Ardennes or try to paddle on so many of the nicer streams
in Britain. Many of those streams (actually, most in Belgium) are closed
to paddlers because of the stronger fisherman lobby.

(BTW: Troll alert! http://wilko.webzone.ru/troll.html )

Wilko

Professional Target wrote:

rant
Fishing. Everywhere, more anglers and more fishing line. Not only do I
need to worry about not hitting their lines or "getting too close" to them,
but I also find my paddle and occasionally my rudder fouled by old discarded
fishing line. Everywhere.

Oh, and when they're about to cast, they look impatient while I pass by. As
if that 10 seconds extra time for me to pass is going to cost them the "big
catch of the day". A few of the more ignorant ones don't even care - they
just cast off anyway.

This is the case with ALL of the rivers and smaller lakes nearby. I'm
beginning to wonder which is worse: jetski's or anglers...

/rant

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Eindhoven The Netherlands Europe
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http://wilko.webzone.ru/

looie ) writes:

On the Civic Holiday weekend, after launching my folding sailing
kayake from a rather crowed launch site on Lake Scugog, I encountered

as a teen I spent an afternoon with a friend and his father fishing
somehwere near Rice Lake (all of this just east of Toronto) and even then
the weekend fishermen of all ages were shoulder-to-shoulder along the
banks of the river and standing out on a dam. Their biggest problem at
the time was each other's lines. I doubt conditions would have improved
over the years even though in those days residents of the province could
fish without a licence.

I find the best rural, as opposde to wilderness, paddling between farm
fields and cottages where there is no public access to the shoreline. You
get there by boat. Within the Ottawa city limits I can paddle for a
weekday afternoon and not meet another person.


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looie writes:
Especially the gasholes fishing from the local pier which features
large signs proclaiming, "No Fishing Allowed"

I see quite a number of these illiterates at some of the local lakes. I
generally point to the sign and indicate they're not supposed to be fishing
from there. Usually they get the hint and move on.

Don't get me wrong - I've nothing against fishing; it's a wonderful sport,
but I *do* have a problem with obnoxious fishermen and those who don't clean
up after themselves. These seem to be in the majority around here, in my
experience.

--
Man is the only animal that laughs and weeps, for he is the only animal
that is struck with the difference between what things are and what they
ought to be.

In message , Professional Target
writes
looie writes:
Especially the gasholes fishing from the local pier which features
large signs proclaiming, "No Fishing Allowed"

I see quite a number of these illiterates at some of the local lakes. I
generally point to the sign and indicate they're not supposed to be fishing
from there. Usually they get the hint and move on.

Don't get me wrong - I've nothing against fishing; it's a wonderful sport,
but I *do* have a problem with obnoxious fishermen and those who don't clean
up after themselves. These seem to be in the majority around here, in my
experience.

I find the definition of fishing as a sport strange but for want of any
other compartment I suppose sport will have to do. But if someone's
sport involves putting a metal hook in a living creature's mouth and
yanking it out of the river for fun then you do have to question it!




--
Dave Manby
Details of the Coruh river and my book "Many Rivers To Run" at
http://www.dmanby.demon.co.uk

Your being intolerant in an elitest sort of way.

These people are causing you no harm. They are fishing. I see far more
people fishing than I see kayaking. I usually find them to be very
friendly and happy people. I have had interesting conversations
pertaining to the location of alligators, snakes, fish, birds and other
wildlife. We are in the outdoors together, lets not be kayak snobs.

You think your sport is better than their's?

Ask yourself this, what happens when fisherman no longer tolerate
kayaking? Remember there are more fisherman than kayakers.
What happens when homeowners decided they no longer can tolerate silent
spying kayakers peering into their backyards?
What happens when environmentalists become concerned that you may
disturb nesting birds? I actually heard an "environmentalist" state
that kayaks disturb birds because she saw a bird fly as a kayak
approached. She seemed to imply that disturbance equalled harm. I told
her how I spotted a bird at 100x through my C-5 get disturbed by a
gentle breeze and if she was in favor of banning wind. I never got an
answer.
What happens when the state becomes concerned that too many kayakers are
drowing on certain sections of rivers, so no selfish kayakers can kayak
anywhere on the river?
What happens when hunters decide to buy land and deny access to it
because they are denied access to public land?
What happens when environmentalist decide to buy land and deny access to
it because they cannot have their way with public land?

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

Your rights stop where my freedom begins. And Vice Versa.

I know its hard sometimes. I hate Jet Ski's and Cigarette boats. They
have their places, we have ours. Leave them alone. Besides, one day I
may try one out for a couple of hours.

Professional Target wrote:

rant
Fishing. Everywhere, more anglers and more fishing line. Not only do I
need to worry about not hitting their lines or "getting too close" to them,
but I also find my paddle and occasionally my rudder fouled by old discarded
fishing line. Everywhere.

Oh, and when they're about to cast, they look impatient while I pass by. As
if that 10 seconds extra time for me to pass is going to cost them the "big
catch of the day". A few of the more ignorant ones don't even care - they
just cast off anyway.

This is the case with ALL of the rivers and smaller lakes nearby. I'm
beginning to wonder which is worse: jetski's or anglers...

/rant