"Comcast News" wrote in message news:546Sc.232684$a24.218211@attbi_s03...
Basskisser,

While it is not necessary to include the copyright disclaimer for something
to be protected by the copyright laws, most news agencies and newspaper
include the disclaimer at the on their web site. See a few examples below:

AP
© Copyright The Associated Press. All rights reserved. The information
contained In this news report may not be published, broadcast or otherwise
distributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press.

Reuters
Copyright © 2004 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. Republication or
redistribution of Reuters content is expressly prohibited without the prior
written consent of Reuters. Reuters shall not be liable for any errors or
delays in the content, or for any actions taken in reliance thereon.
Copyright © 2004 Yahoo! Inc. All rights reserved.

New York Times:

Copyright 2004 The New York Times Company

All rights reserved.

All materials contained on this site are protected by United States
copyright law and may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted,
displayed, published or broadcast without the prior written permission of
The New York Times Company. You may not alter or remove any trademark,
copyright or other notice from copies of the content.

However, you may download material from The New York Times on the Web
(one machine readable copy and one print copy per page) for your personal,
noncommercial use only.

I hope this has been helpful.

No, it's not. Please read below. I've asked you for specific copyright
laws that I have broken.

"basskisser" wrote in message
m...
"Comcast News" wrote in message
news:oILRc.256255$JR4.37726@attbi_s54...
Basskisser,
I don't know if you have cut and pasted entire articles published or
written
by another person, but if you have you have violated the author's and
the
publishers copyright, which is against the law. I think that is what
jim
was talking about.

I think I posted this link but in case I didn't hit send, here is the
link:

http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html

I could care less about someones OPINION. Show me a specific copyright
law I've broken.

"Comcast News" wrote in message news:6E5Sc.281509$XM6.254525@attbi_s53...
I am not certain what your source meant, but when you go to the US
government site concerning copyrights (
http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html#wnp) they state:
"HOW TO SECURE A COPYRIGHT
Copyright Secured Automatically upon Creation
The way in which copyright protection is secured is frequently
misunderstood. No publication or registration or other action in the
Copyright Office is required to secure copyright. (See following Note.)
There are, however, certain definite advantages to registration. See
"Copyright Registration."

Copyright is secured automatically when the work is created, and a work is
"created" when it is fixed in a copy or phonorecord for the first time.
"Copies" are material objects from which a work can be read or visually
perceived either directly or with the aid of a machine or device, such as
books, manuscripts, sheet music, film, videotape, or microfilm.
"Phonorecords" are material objects embodying fixations of sounds
(excluding, by statutory definition, motion picture soundtracks), such as
cassette tapes, CDs, or LPs. Thus, for example, a song (the "work") can be
fixed in sheet music (" copies") or in phonograph disks (" phonorecords"),
or both.

If a work is prepared over a period of time, the part of the work that is
fixed on a particular date constitutes the created work as of that date."

end of quote.

It seems your source either disagrees with the US Copyright Office or your
cite was in reference to another matter, possible republishing someone
Usenet post when responding to a Usenet post.

That IS the law, direct from the Copyright Act. Please go read Section
411(a) of the Copyright Act, and get back to me.

No problem, let me contact AP's legal dept and I will get back with you.


"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Comcast News" wrote in message
news:546Sc.232684$a24.218211@attbi_s03...
Basskisser,

While it is not necessary to include the copyright disclaimer for
something
to be protected by the copyright laws, most news agencies and newspaper
include the disclaimer at the on their web site. See a few examples
below:

AP
© Copyright The Associated Press. All rights reserved. The information
contained In this news report may not be published, broadcast or
otherwise
distributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press.

Reuters
Copyright © 2004 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. Republication or
redistribution of Reuters content is expressly prohibited without the
prior
written consent of Reuters. Reuters shall not be liable for any errors
or
delays in the content, or for any actions taken in reliance thereon.
Copyright © 2004 Yahoo! Inc. All rights reserved.

New York Times:

Copyright 2004 The New York Times Company

All rights reserved.

All materials contained on this site are protected by United
States
copyright law and may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted,
displayed, published or broadcast without the prior written permission
of
The New York Times Company. You may not alter or remove any trademark,
copyright or other notice from copies of the content.

However, you may download material from The New York Times on the
Web
(one machine readable copy and one print copy per page) for your
personal,
noncommercial use only.

I hope this has been helpful.

No, it's not. Please read below. I've asked you for specific copyright
laws that I have broken.

"basskisser" wrote in message
m...
"Comcast News" wrote in message
news:oILRc.256255$JR4.37726@attbi_s54...
Basskisser,
I don't know if you have cut and pasted entire articles published or
written
by another person, but if you have you have violated the author's
and
the
publishers copyright, which is against the law. I think that is
what
jim
was talking about.

I think I posted this link but in case I didn't hit send, here is
the
link:

http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html

I could care less about someones OPINION. Show me a specific copyright
law I've broken.

"Comcast News" wrote in message news:mJoSc.268424$JR4.10581@attbi_s54...
No problem, let me contact AP's legal dept and I will get back with you.


Okay, I'll be waiting for those specific copyright laws that I've
broken. Did you perhaps have a moment to read the REAL copyright laws,
as opposed to someone's speculation? I posted a specific law for your
information.

Basskisser,

So when AP, CNN, Wall Street Journal say their material has a copyright,
they are just teasing us.

Since the written works seen on most news sites have also been printed in a
newspaper and not exclusively on their web site I don't believe the section
of the code you are citing is appropriate to the news web sites. The
experts I have read believe the news web cites would fall under the section
of the code I cited.. Since every interpretation I have found agrees with
my interpretation, I will have to assume they are correct, and you are not.





"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Comcast News" wrote in message
news:6E5Sc.281509$XM6.254525@attbi_s53...
I am not certain what your source meant, but when you go to the US
government site concerning copyrights (
http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html#wnp) they state:
"HOW TO SECURE A COPYRIGHT
Copyright Secured Automatically upon Creation
The way in which copyright protection is secured is frequently
misunderstood. No publication or registration or other action in the
Copyright Office is required to secure copyright. (See following Note.)
There are, however, certain definite advantages to registration. See
"Copyright Registration."

Copyright is secured automatically when the work is created, and a work
is
"created" when it is fixed in a copy or phonorecord for the first time.
"Copies" are material objects from which a work can be read or visually
perceived either directly or with the aid of a machine or device, such
as
books, manuscripts, sheet music, film, videotape, or microfilm.
"Phonorecords" are material objects embodying fixations of sounds
(excluding, by statutory definition, motion picture soundtracks), such
as
cassette tapes, CDs, or LPs. Thus, for example, a song (the "work") can
be
fixed in sheet music (" copies") or in phonograph disks ("
phonorecords"),
or both.

If a work is prepared over a period of time, the part of the work that
is
fixed on a particular date constitutes the created work as of that
date."

end of quote.

It seems your source either disagrees with the US Copyright Office or
your
cite was in reference to another matter, possible republishing someone
Usenet post when responding to a Usenet post.

That IS the law, direct from the Copyright Act. Please go read Section
411(a) of the Copyright Act, and get back to me.

"Comcast News" wrote in message news:J5vSc.237419$a24.94086@attbi_s03...
Basskisser,

So when AP, CNN, Wall Street Journal say their material has a copyright,
they are just teasing us.

Since the written works seen on most news sites have also been printed in a
newspaper and not exclusively on their web site I don't believe the section
of the code you are citing is appropriate to the news web sites. The
experts I have read believe the news web cites would fall under the section
of the code I cited.. Since every interpretation I have found agrees with
my interpretation, I will have to assume they are correct, and you are not.

So, I take it that you haven't read the actual LAW that I posted?
If so, all would be clear to you. It is, after all, the law, from the
Copyright Act, not someone's speculation.

basskisser wrote:

"Comcast News" wrote in message news:J5vSc.237419$a24.94086@attbi_s03...
Basskisser,

So when AP, CNN, Wall Street Journal say their material has a copyright,
they are just teasing us.

Since the written works seen on most news sites have also been printed in a
newspaper and not exclusively on their web site I don't believe the section
of the code you are citing is appropriate to the news web sites. The
experts I have read believe the news web cites would fall under the section
of the code I cited.. Since every interpretation I have found agrees with
my interpretation, I will have to assume they are correct, and you are not.

So, I take it that you haven't read the actual LAW that I posted?
If so, all would be clear to you. It is, after all, the law, from the
Copyright Act, not someone's speculation.


Why do you bother with Comcast John Smith? Just ****can him...I did.

--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

I did read the law, and you did not provide the actual law, you provided a
tiny section of the law. It should be obvious that it does not apply to
news articles published online. That section of the law, was meant to cover
such online publishing as people posting in Usenet, and publishing of a home
web page. If you want to actually read the law, and not a section of the
law, here is a link to the 293 pages of THE LAW.

http://www.copyright.gov/title17/circ92.pdf






"basskisser" wrote in message
m...
"Comcast News" wrote in message
news:J5vSc.237419$a24.94086@attbi_s03...
Basskisser,

So when AP, CNN, Wall Street Journal say their material has a copyright,
they are just teasing us.

Since the written works seen on most news sites have also been printed
in a
newspaper and not exclusively on their web site I don't believe the
section
of the code you are citing is appropriate to the news web sites. The
experts I have read believe the news web cites would fall under the
section
of the code I cited.. Since every interpretation I have found agrees
with
my interpretation, I will have to assume they are correct, and you are
not.

So, I take it that you haven't read the actual LAW that I posted?
If so, all would be clear to you. It is, after all, the law, from the
Copyright Act, not someone's speculation.

Harry,
You don't filter anyone, you just respond to anyone's post, unless you can
make a personal insult.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
basskisser wrote:

"Comcast News" wrote in message
news:J5vSc.237419$a24.94086@attbi_s03...
Basskisser,

So when AP, CNN, Wall Street Journal say their material has a
copyright,
they are just teasing us.

Since the written works seen on most news sites have also been printed
in a
newspaper and not exclusively on their web site I don't believe the
section
of the code you are citing is appropriate to the news web sites. The
experts I have read believe the news web cites would fall under the
section
of the code I cited.. Since every interpretation I have found agrees
with
my interpretation, I will have to assume they are correct, and you are
not.

So, I take it that you haven't read the actual LAW that I posted?
If so, all would be clear to you. It is, after all, the law, from the
Copyright Act, not someone's speculation.


Why do you bother with Comcast John Smith? Just ****can him...I did.

--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

"Comcast News" wrote in message news:8%KSc.273660$JR4.208294@attbi_s54...
I did read the law, and you did not provide the actual law, you provided a
tiny section of the law. It should be obvious that it does not apply to
news articles published online. That section of the law, was meant to cover
such online publishing as people posting in Usenet, and publishing of a home
web page. If you want to actually read the law, and not a section of the
law, here is a link to the 293 pages of THE LAW.

http://www.copyright.gov/title17/circ92.pdf

And I've asked over and over. You keep telling me I am breaking the
law. Exactly WHAT law?