On 10 Aug 2004 12:04:38 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

Dave Hall wrote in message . ..
On 6 Aug 2004 04:44:47 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ...
"JGK" wrote in message
...

Its the people not the bots that are a
problem.

But GENERALLY speaking, certain kinds of people seem to get their hands on
certain kinds of toys, and aren't smart or considerate enough to use them
without driving others crazy. So, the two things (people and toys) can't
really be separated.

Around these parts, we call them "penis boats", because they are
nothing more than a phallic symbol for those lacking in that
department, UNLESS you actually race boats, different story all
together. But, if you just generally go to where the crowds are, and
make noise, etc., then yes, it's a substitute for a real penis. You
know who you are...


You really need to get a clue, since you obviously know nothing about
what you're talking about.

Dave

Why would one who is not racing boats, need to make them as loud as
possible, only to gain a mile or two an hour?

Why does one have to race to enjoy going fast? I used to enjoy playing
an occasional game of football when I was a kid, that doesn't mean I
need to join a professional team.


Why would these people
have a need to run them near people, instead of open water?

How do you get to the open water?

As for my
last sentence, apparently my message stung you a little, so yes, " you
know who you are".

Yes I do, but obviously you don't.

Dave

Dave Hall wrote in message . ..
On 10 Aug 2004 12:04:38 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

Dave Hall wrote in message . ..
On 6 Aug 2004 04:44:47 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ...
"JGK" wrote in message
...

Its the people not the bots that are a
problem.

But GENERALLY speaking, certain kinds of people seem to get their hands on
certain kinds of toys, and aren't smart or considerate enough to use them
without driving others crazy. So, the two things (people and toys) can't
really be separated.

Around these parts, we call them "penis boats", because they are
nothing more than a phallic symbol for those lacking in that
department, UNLESS you actually race boats, different story all
together. But, if you just generally go to where the crowds are, and
make noise, etc., then yes, it's a substitute for a real penis. You
know who you are...


You really need to get a clue, since you obviously know nothing about
what you're talking about.

Dave

Why would one who is not racing boats, need to make them as loud as
possible, only to gain a mile or two an hour?

Why does one have to race to enjoy going fast? I used to enjoy playing
an occasional game of football when I was a kid, that doesn't mean I
need to join a professional team.

Where did I say that you shouldn't enjoy going fast? What I asked was,
does one mile an hour give you that much joy, to have to have
completely open exhaust? Jeez, if so, walk, three miles an hour should
really excite you!


Why would these people
have a need to run them near people, instead of open water?

How do you get to the open water?

You don't have to go wide open to get there do you?

As for my
last sentence, apparently my message stung you a little, so yes, " you
know who you are".

Yes I do, but obviously you don't.

Ah, but I do....

On 11 Aug 2004 12:27:38 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:



Why would one who is not racing boats, need to make them as loud as
possible, only to gain a mile or two an hour?

Why does one have to race to enjoy going fast? I used to enjoy playing
an occasional game of football when I was a kid, that doesn't mean I
need to join a professional team.

Where did I say that you shouldn't enjoy going fast? What I asked was,
does one mile an hour give you that much joy, to have to have
completely open exhaust? Jeez, if so, walk, three miles an hour should
really excite you!

If walking at 3 MPH excited me, I would 've bought a sailboat. When it
comes to the subject of maximum performance, you either understand it,
or you don't. Have you ever watched the things that car racing guys do
to pick up an additional few MPH? The same thing goes for the guys on
water. The biggest difference is that the legal speed limits generally
make recreational racing illegal on the road. On the water, this is
usually not the case. Guys are free to take part in impromptu "races"
at any time. Obviously the drive to win will push these guys to use
every resource at their disposal to make their boat as fast as
possible (or that they can afford to spend). There is almost endless
prop swapping, engine tweaks, waxing the bottom, cutting out excess
weight etc. A race can be won or lost by 1 MPH.

If you think that's silly then you don't get it. Nothing wrong with
that, but don't denigrate those who do.


Why would these people
have a need to run them near people, instead of open water?

How do you get to the open water?

You don't have to go wide open to get there do you?

But you can, so why not, if it's what you enjoy?

Dave

Dave Hall wrote:
On 11 Aug 2004 12:27:38 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:



Why would one who is not racing boats, need to make them as loud as
possible, only to gain a mile or two an hour?

Why does one have to race to enjoy going fast? I used to enjoy playing
an occasional game of football when I was a kid, that doesn't mean I
need to join a professional team.

Where did I say that you shouldn't enjoy going fast? What I asked was,
does one mile an hour give you that much joy, to have to have
completely open exhaust? Jeez, if so, walk, three miles an hour should
really excite you!

If walking at 3 MPH excited me, I would 've bought a sailboat. When it
comes to the subject of maximum performance, you either understand it,
or you don't. Have you ever watched the things that car racing guys do
to pick up an additional few MPH? The same thing goes for the guys on
water. The biggest difference is that the legal speed limits generally
make recreational racing illegal on the road. On the water, this is
usually not the case. Guys are free to take part in impromptu "races"
at any time. Obviously the drive to win will push these guys to use
every resource at their disposal to make their boat as fast as
possible (or that they can afford to spend). There is almost endless
prop swapping, engine tweaks, waxing the bottom, cutting out excess
weight etc. A race can be won or lost by 1 MPH.

If you think that's silly then you don't get it. Nothing wrong with
that, but don't denigrate those who do.


Why would these people
have a need to run them near people, instead of open water?

How do you get to the open water?

You don't have to go wide open to get there do you?

But you can, so why not, if it's what you enjoy?

Dave


Because it is noisy, obnoxious behavior that can and often does intrude
upon others. Most penis-boat-boys receive the well-deserved
single-fingered salute when they roll by with their damned opened
exhausts. They're older, but no different, than the assholes who have
the 400 watt amps in their little cars, and boost the bass so everyone
can hear their crappy music.

--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 08:24:54 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:


Why would these people
have a need to run them near people, instead of open water?

How do you get to the open water?

You don't have to go wide open to get there do you?

But you can, so why not, if it's what you enjoy?

Dave


Because it is noisy, obnoxious behavior that can and often does intrude
upon others.

Your opinions are obnoxious behavior that intrudes upon others. So who
are you to make value judgements?

Most penis-boat-boys receive the well-deserved
single-fingered salute when they roll by with their damned opened
exhausts.

Which is more than made up for by the "hi five" signs they get from
others who appreciate the fine art of high performance.

Dave

Dave Hall wrote:
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 08:24:54 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:


Why would these people
have a need to run them near people, instead of open water?

How do you get to the open water?

You don't have to go wide open to get there do you?

But you can, so why not, if it's what you enjoy?

Dave


Because it is noisy, obnoxious behavior that can and often does intrude
upon others.

Your opinions are obnoxious behavior that intrudes upon others. So who
are you to make value judgements?

Ahh, but there's a difference. If you think my opinions represent
obnoxious behavior, you can filter me out or not read them, eh? But when
assholes like you drive by in their unmuffled penis boats, one cannot
filter you out. Your obnoxious behavior is right there...

Got it?


Which is more than made up for by the "hi five" signs they get from
others who appreciate the fine art of high performance.

There's nothing "high performance" about these overpowered stock boats.
They're mostly just deep vees with huge modified car engines. What a
yawner.



--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news:2o1kraF5sfq2U1@uni- Ahh, but there's a difference. If you think my
opinions represent
obnoxious behavior, you can filter me out or not read them, eh? But when
assholes like you drive by in their unmuffled penis boats, one cannot
filter you out. Your obnoxious behavior is right there...

I do have to agree you on this one. Your behavior is as obnoxious as an
unmuffled high performance boat.

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:38:52 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Dave Hall wrote:
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 08:24:54 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:


Why would these people
have a need to run them near people, instead of open water?

How do you get to the open water?

You don't have to go wide open to get there do you?

But you can, so why not, if it's what you enjoy?

Dave


Because it is noisy, obnoxious behavior that can and often does intrude
upon others.

Your opinions are obnoxious behavior that intrudes upon others. So who
are you to make value judgements?

Ahh, but there's a difference. If you think my opinions represent
obnoxious behavior, you can filter me out or not read them, eh? But when
assholes like you drive by in their unmuffled penis boats, one cannot
filter you out. Your obnoxious behavior is right there...

You can always leave if it bothers you so much. It must really suck
being someone who is so sensitive to others activities to the point
that you would vocally oppose their right to enjoy life, because they
"bother" you.


Which is more than made up for by the "hi five" signs they get from
others who appreciate the fine art of high performance.

There's nothing "high performance" about these overpowered stock boats.
They're mostly just deep vees with huge modified car engines. What a
yawner.

And once again, you demonstrate your extreme ignorance of the subject.
Stick to language obfuscation, you obviously know little about
mechanics or engineering subjects.

High performance hull designs have evolved considerably in the last
several years. There is much more to a high performance boat than an
"Overpowered deep V".
On the subject of engines, how many inboard engines do you know of,
that aren't "modified car engines"? Nothing earth shattering about
that revelation.

Trying reading a little on the subject before you subject yourself to
another helping of shoe leather....

Dave

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
...

When it
comes to the subject of maximum performance, you either understand it,
or you don't. Have you ever watched the things that car racing guys do
to pick up an additional few MPH?

We know all about it. But, if you drove most race cars on the street, you'd
be ticketed or arrested, even if just for the noise some of them make.
That's why there are race tracks.


The same thing goes for the guys on
water.

What they do offshore is their business. The noise they sometimes choose to
make around boats is everyone's business. And I use the word "choose"
because based on what I've learned by reading some of the messages here,
it's possible for such boats to be quiet with the use of certain mechanical
devices. Therefore, if they choose not to be quiet, they fully intend to
disturb. The only other possibility is that they're complete idiots.

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 16:50:37 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
.. .

When it
comes to the subject of maximum performance, you either understand it,
or you don't. Have you ever watched the things that car racing guys do
to pick up an additional few MPH?

We know all about it. But, if you drove most race cars on the street, you'd
be ticketed or arrested, even if just for the noise some of them make.
That's why there are race tracks.

Race cars, for the most part, are not street legal. There are stock
classes which are, and there would be no problem.



The same thing goes for the guys on
water.

What they do offshore is their business.

Until you decide to fish offshore. Then the noise would "bother" you
again.


The noise they sometimes choose to
make around boats is everyone's business. And I use the word "choose"
because based on what I've learned by reading some of the messages here,
it's possible for such boats to be quiet with the use of certain mechanical
devices. Therefore, if they choose not to be quiet, they fully intend to
disturb. The only other possibility is that they're complete idiots.

Binary thinking. Not all (and in fact the majority of boats that I'm
familiar with) do not have exhaust diverters. Mine doesn't, and most
of my friends boats do not either. So there may not be a choice. And
ironically, in the state of PA, they are considered illegal.

I've installed baffles in my exhausts to take the edge off the noise.
As I get older, I find less need to run at maximum speed, so I took
the 1-2 MPH hit that the extra backpressure of the baffles created, in
exchange for a more "audibly friendly" boat. But if I wanted to remove
them, I'd have to remove a bolt from each pipe. Not practical for guys
who need to be ready for an impromptu race at any given time.


Dave