I do agree these folks may be calling undue attention to boats. It may be just
a matter of time before we are all running air pumps and catalytic converters.

"Greg" wrote in message
...
I do agree these folks may be calling undue attention to boats. It may be
just
a matter of time before we are all running air pumps and catalytic
converters.


I brought up the subject because after being a chauffeur for my 15 yr old
son and his friends for most of the day, I ran out of time to get the boat
in the water. So, I meandered down to the inlet where Irondequoit Bay meets
Lake Ontario. Every 30 seconds, one of these needle-dick boats came blarping
through the inlet. Even at idle speed, it completely drowned out ALL other
sound. I couldn't hear the guy standing 10 feet away from me, who was
yelling about why these dumb boats aren't illegal.

I couldn't hear the guy standing 10 feet away from me, who was
yelling about why these dumb boats aren't illegal.

I don't think they should be illegal but I do think the folks who own them have
a responsibility to use them in places where they don't unnecessarily bother
people. These are really offshore race boats, take them offshore and enjoy!
Like most things, if people don't use self dicipline the government will step
in and impose law.
My favorite example is the SCUBA industry. In the 60s they took it upon
themselves to regulate themselves and almost a half century later, in a time
where the government has it's big nose in everything remotely dangerous, SCUBA
is still pretty much self regulated.

"Greg" wrote in message
...
I couldn't hear the guy standing 10 feet away from me, who was
yelling about why these dumb boats aren't illegal.

I don't think they should be illegal but I do think the folks who own them
have
a responsibility to use them in places where they don't unnecessarily
bother
people. These are really offshore race boats, take them offshore and
enjoy!
Like most things, if people don't use self dicipline the government will
step
in and impose law.
My favorite example is the SCUBA industry. In the 60s they took it upon
themselves to regulate themselves and almost a half century later, in a
time
where the government has it's big nose in everything remotely dangerous,
SCUBA
is still pretty much self regulated.

Makes sense for the scuba biz. I suspect much of the health of the industry
is based on tourists who pay to get trained quickly, jump in the water and
see nice fish & coral. That requires quite a bit of trust from the consumer,
and that means the industry had better have its head screwed on right. If
the feds were involved, congress would still be debating whether the bends
was a real medical problem or not. :-)

If they were decent people they would use Silent Choice. Larry Hill

These are really offshore race boats, take them offshore and enjoy!
Like most things, if people don't use self dicipline the government will step
in and impose law.

"Larry Hill" wrote in message
...
If they were decent people they would use Silent Choice. Larry Hill



I actually haven't figured out what is more amusing, the fact that you guys
are actually talking about boats on this forum, or the fact that you don't
have a clue about how these boats ACTUALLY operate.

Yes, most performace boats do have switchable exhaust of some sort installed
on them. Not all, but most. What you have failed to mention is the fact
that these systems cannot be used above a certain RPM level. I realize this
doesn't justify not using them while idling.

These boats are manufactured to perform at high speed. They have big block
engines in them. They are going to be loud. We all have to pay taxes and
someday we will all die. Facts that we have to live w/ and move on. Get
over it.

Buck

On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 21:09:26 -0500, "buck183"
wrote:

Facts that we have to live w/ and move on. Get
over it.

Buck
=========================

Not true, you're the one who needs to "get over it".

Grow up and assume some responsibility.

Hey Buck!
Is that you from the Putz's site ??? (I won't mention it since I don't want
some of these aholes there....leave them here w/ their Bayliners w/ Force L
drives, Sunfish sailboats, and imaginary Lobster boats )
Can't be that many Buck's around ~~~~
Bomar

"buck183" wrote in message
...

"Larry Hill" wrote in message
...
If they were decent people they would use Silent Choice. Larry Hill



I actually haven't figured out what is more amusing, the fact that you
guys
are actually talking about boats on this forum, or the fact that you don't
have a clue about how these boats ACTUALLY operate.

Yes, most performace boats do have switchable exhaust of some sort
installed
on them. Not all, but most. What you have failed to mention is the fact
that these systems cannot be used above a certain RPM level. I realize
this
doesn't justify not using them while idling.

These boats are manufactured to perform at high speed. They have big
block
engines in them. They are going to be loud. We all have to pay taxes and
someday we will all die. Facts that we have to live w/ and move on. Get
over it.

Buck

Hey crackhead! What are you doing over here? LOL

Yeah it's me, the one and only. Just doing my time here making sure are
part of the boating world is represented fairly if ya know what I mean?

You know me, I'm an equal opportunity offender.

See ya on the other side of the tracks.

Buck
"bomar" wrote in message
...
Hey Buck!
Is that you from the Putz's site ??? (I won't mention it since I don't
want
some of these aholes there....leave them here w/ their Bayliners w/ Force
L
drives, Sunfish sailboats, and imaginary Lobster boats )
Can't be that many Buck's around ~~~~
Bomar

"buck183" wrote in message
...

"Larry Hill" wrote in message
...
If they were decent people they would use Silent Choice. Larry Hill



I actually haven't figured out what is more amusing, the fact that you
guys
are actually talking about boats on this forum, or the fact that you
don't
have a clue about how these boats ACTUALLY operate.

Yes, most performace boats do have switchable exhaust of some sort
installed
on them. Not all, but most. What you have failed to mention is the
fact
that these systems cannot be used above a certain RPM level. I realize
this
doesn't justify not using them while idling.

These boats are manufactured to perform at high speed. They have big
block
engines in them. They are going to be loud. We all have to pay taxes
and
someday we will all die. Facts that we have to live w/ and move on.
Get
over it.

Buck

Those "dumb boats" most likely are illegal. Section 44 of the NYS
Navigation Law appears to restrict the type of operation you are
complaining about.
Of course having a law and enforcing that law are two different animals.
Worse, I never found a significant difference in performance between the
through transom setups and those that exhausted through the outdrive.
If you are talking about a thoroughly tuned racing setup then, sure you
will have a performance advantage with reduced exhaust pressure. But the
average consumer boat? Naw - its just the "look at me" syndrome that
****es people off rather than impressing them.
Good luck and good boating,
Jim


Doug Kanter wrote:
"Greg" wrote in message
...

I do agree these folks may be calling undue attention to boats. It may be

just

a matter of time before we are all running air pumps and catalytic

converters.


I brought up the subject because after being a chauffeur for my 15 yr old
son and his friends for most of the day, I ran out of time to get the boat
in the water. So, I meandered down to the inlet where Irondequoit Bay meets
Lake Ontario. Every 30 seconds, one of these needle-dick boats came blarping
through the inlet. Even at idle speed, it completely drowned out ALL other
sound. I couldn't hear the guy standing 10 feet away from me, who was
yelling about why these dumb boats aren't illegal.