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-v- November 12th 03 02:54 PM

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"Capt. Frank Hopkins" wrote in message
nk.net...
Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.



A moderator can't censor by law. Otherwise, he or she could be 1. sued.
2 imprisoned, or 3 both.


You are kidding, right?
I hope you really don't believe that.




Gould 0738 November 12th 03 06:37 PM

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Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of


The NG is a public forum, but is theoretically a group of people who have
agreed to discuss a common theme. Obviously, as per rec.boats and most other
groups, this is a "purist" vision that doesn't play out in the real world.

I think the freedom-of-speech, off-topic relationship is like a guy printing a
political poster. He's allowed to print and distribute the posters, but he
might be prohibioted from pasting his message on the front door of City Hall.

If a person joins a group that was established with a moderator, there should
be no expectation of ability to post whatever comes to mind.

LaBomba182 November 13th 03 04:31 AM

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From: (Florida Keyz)

Why can't the list moderator delete them? Just curious


From: "Capt. Frank Hopkins"


A moderator can't censor by law. Otherwise, he or she could be 1. sued.
2 imprisoned, or 3 both.


You both really need to get a clue.

Capt. Bill


Dave Hall November 13th 03 01:50 PM

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Gould 0738 wrote:

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of


The NG is a public forum, but is theoretically a group of people who have
agreed to discuss a common theme. Obviously, as per rec.boats and most other
groups, this is a "purist" vision that doesn't play out in the real world.


Not only that but internet access is not really "public". You have to
access it through a private ISP, and you are subject to their TOS rules.
Free speech in not an absolute here.


I think the freedom-of-speech, off-topic relationship is like a guy printing a
political poster. He's allowed to print and distribute the posters, but he
might be prohibioted from pasting his message on the front door of City Hall.


Also like the difference between a public golf course and a private
country club. If you join the private club, you agree to abide by the
rules of the club, some of which may limit your freedoms to some extent.
You can either agree to it, or forfeit your membership. The benefit, of
course, is a higher standard of quality, than what can be expected in an
"anything goes" public course.

If you join a moderated newsgroup, you agree to the terms. If you break
the rules, you will lose your access. The biggest problem with moderated
newsgroups is filling the shoes of moderator. Trying to remain
objective, and not taking sides based on personality, is very tough to
do. A moderator's job is a thankless one. You'll never please everyone.
Someone will always hate you........

Dave


If a person joins a group that was established with a moderator, there should
be no expectation of ability to post whatever comes to mind.




Doug Kanter November 13th 03 03:01 PM

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"LaBomba182" wrote in message
...
From: (Florida Keyz)


Why can't the list moderator delete them? Just curious


From: "Capt. Frank Hopkins"


A moderator can't censor by law. Otherwise, he or she could be 1. sued.
2 imprisoned, or 3 both.


You both really need to get a clue.

Capt. Bill


I think the moderator can come to your house and whack your pee-pee with a
metal ruler. I think I read that somewhere.



JimL November 14th 03 07:11 PM

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Dave,

It seems to me that it's not OT in general that people are complaining
about. It's the political OT! I'm personally sick of it. None of
these political postings are meant to inform, but rather inflame others.
They're more borne out of hatred and bitterness. Also, folks posting
this crap seem to think it's going to sway folks to their points of
view.

Just my humble OT opinion.

-JimL



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