Bush wants DEMOCRACY in Mideast??? Or "credibility"?
 

Cross posting provides benefit only when the context is beneficial to its
readers, or believable.



"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"WaIIy" wrote in message
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On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:59:48 -0800, "jps" wrote:

"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .

When I had had my boat for six months, there was still a lot I didn't
know
about
it. I learned a lot about risers and headers when I pulled mine to
check
them
out. Some things just take time. Every year I learn more. As time
goes
by,
you
will learn more too.

You won't learn a lot about headers or anything else from Rush
Limbaugh,
Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly.


Nor from you, jps. What the heck your reply has to do with John's
comments is beyond me.

You crossposted this to four groups because.... ?

Look closer, Einstein, the original writer crossposted it. If you respond,
your reply goes to the same groups as the original message, unless you
edit
out the extraneous ones. Most of us don't do the editing because it's not
worth the trouble. Crossposting provides a benefit if the posting is done
to
groups that make sense. Obviously, in this case, it didn't.

Main Entry: ex·tra·ne·ous
Pronunciation: ek-'strA-nE-&s
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin extraneus -- more at STRANGE
Date: 1638
1 : existing on or coming from the outside
2 a : not forming an essential or vital part extraneous ornamentation b
:
having no relevance an extraneous digression
3 : being a number obtained in solving an equation that is not a solution
of
the equation extraneous roots

Bush wants DEMOCRACY in Mideast??? Or "credibility"?
 

"JohnH" wrote

When I had had my boat for six months, there was still a lot I didn't know
about
it. I learned a lot about risers and headers when I pulled mine to check
them
out. Some things just take time. Every year I learn more. As time goes by,
you
will learn more too.

The difference being, of course, that you were interested in finding out,
and not so
afraid that you wouldn't try anything for fear of failing (again).

Dan

Bush wants DEMOCRACY in Mideast??? Or "credibility"?
 

"Ignoramus14327" wrote in message
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Bush said that he wants more democracy in Mideast.

He earlier said that he wanted democracy in Iraq and that's why he
went there and clusterbombed towns etc.

I have to ask, the US has been occupying Iraq for 6 months
already. Quite a bit of time. Where are the elections? Where are any
preparations for elections? You would think that if he really wanted
democracy in Iraq, at least some election process would be
underway. Maybe elections would be scheduled for, say, March and now
there would be political parties forming etc. No such thing is
happening. No effort to do that is apparent.

Where is democracy?

Now, obviously, I am aware that Bush is a liar least interested in
Mideast democracy. My questions were rhetorical.

So what was the point of his speech? And I think that it is a threat
to mideast governments to stay in line and not complain about
occupation of Iraq, etc. But this threat is hollow. The US no longer
has forces capable of occupying one more midsize country due to being
mired in Iraq.

We all talk about how getting out of Iraq would "destroy our
credibility". Which means that other countries will not be as afraid
of us as we would like them to be if we withdraw. Well, right now we
are very firmly stuck in Iraq with not much more forces to spare for
further military adventures. What does that do to our "credibility"?
Can we credibly threaten, say, Iran, when our reservists are doing
yearlong tours of duty in Iraq already?

No.

What does this mean?

That our credibility is already being ruined no matter what we do in
Iraq. Getting out is bad for "credibility", staying is not better
either, but maybe more expensive. Either way is bad. And winning in
Iraq does not seem like it will happen anytime soon.

I expect the dumbest members of these newsgroups to attack my posting
alias (saying your alias Ignoramus fits you well), and the slightly
less stupid ones to dismiss me as a "liberal" (which I am not).

I invite the more intelligent posters to review my argument and see
where the fallacy lies, if you can find any.

i

Its obvious you havent been around a lot of politicians :)
The first order of the day is to eliminate the oppisition , then when that
is done , the victors are deemed to be democraticaly elected .
Any dissenters are actualy labeled terrorists and shot.
Doing it like this actualy saves the voting public manymillions of dollars
by not needing elections , everyone knows that it doesnt matter who you vote
for , youre going to get screwed anyway .
When GB is finnished eliminating the terrorists and those who dont want his
troops around there will be exeedingly few people left to vte anyway .
What the problem ?

Bush wants DEMOCRACY in Mideast??? Or "credibility"?
 

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
nk.net...
On what topic? And for what group, Igor? Make up your mind. Looks
like
you've got four crossposted groups in here. Perhaps your son can clarify
it.

He forgot alt.barefoot for some reason :)


Ignoramus14327 wrote:
In article , John Gaquin wrote:

"Ignoramus14327" wrote in message




I have to ask, the US has been occupying Iraq for 6 months
already. Quite a bit of time. Where are the elections?

Clearly no knowledge or grasp of history. Utterly clueless.

Disregard remaining blather.



If you have nothing to say, do not say anything.

If you do have something to say, put forth your case.

i

Bush wants DEMOCRACY in Mideast??? Or "credibility"?
 

He forgot alt.sex.fetish.sheep too.

-W just sayin'

"Myal" wrote in message
...

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
nk.net...
On what topic? And for what group, Igor? Make up your mind.
Looks
like
you've got four crossposted groups in here. Perhaps your son can
clarify
it.

He forgot alt.barefoot for some reason :)


Ignoramus14327 wrote:
In article , John Gaquin
wrote:

"Ignoramus14327" wrote in
message




I have to ask, the US has been occupying Iraq for 6 months
already. Quite a bit of time. Where are the elections?

Clearly no knowledge or grasp of history. Utterly clueless.

Disregard remaining blather.



If you have nothing to say, do not say anything.

If you do have something to say, put forth your case.

i

Bush wants DEMOCRACY in Mideast??? Or "credibility"?
 

He forgot alt.sex.fetish.sheep too.

-W just sayin'

"Myal" wrote in message
...

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
nk.net...
On what topic? And for what group, Igor? Make up your mind.
Looks
like
you've got four crossposted groups in here. Perhaps your son can
clarify
it.

He forgot alt.barefoot for some reason :)


Ignoramus14327 wrote:
In article , John Gaquin
wrote:

"Ignoramus14327" wrote in
message




I have to ask, the US has been occupying Iraq for 6 months
already. Quite a bit of time. Where are the elections?

Clearly no knowledge or grasp of history. Utterly clueless.

Disregard remaining blather.



If you have nothing to say, do not say anything.

If you do have something to say, put forth your case.

i

Bush wants DEMOCRACY in Mideast??? Or "credibility"?
 

Hmmmm, That double posted?? It wasn't THAT funny.... lol.

-W

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
news:C8Yqb.103887$9E1.499582@attbi_s52...
He forgot alt.sex.fetish.sheep too.

-W just sayin'

"Myal" wrote in message
...

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
nk.net...
On what topic? And for what group, Igor? Make up your mind.
Looks
like
you've got four crossposted groups in here. Perhaps your son can
clarify
it.

He forgot alt.barefoot for some reason :)


Ignoramus14327 wrote:
In article , John Gaquin
wrote:

"Ignoramus14327" wrote in
message




I have to ask, the US has been occupying Iraq for 6 months
already. Quite a bit of time. Where are the elections?

Clearly no knowledge or grasp of history. Utterly clueless.

Disregard remaining blather.



If you have nothing to say, do not say anything.

If you do have something to say, put forth your case.

i

Bush wants DEMOCRACY in Mideast??? Or "credibility"?
 

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
news:C8Yqb.103887$9E1.499582@attbi_s52...
He forgot alt.sex.fetish.sheep too.


Turn your radio down,(...your radio down)

Bush wants DEMOCRACY in Mideast??? Or "credibility"?
 

" Tuuk" wrote in message
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Cross posting provides benefit only when the context is beneficial to its
readers, or believable.

You're right. But, some dolts like to clamp onto a word or term they think
is naughty, or cool, (like "socialist", "ad hominem" or "crossposting"), and
use it to death. Somehow, the entire process of crossposting had gotten a
bad rap. But, if you have a question about networking windows 98 and you
crosspost to win98.general and win98.networking, the responses will be seen
in both newsgroups and you'll have your answers in half the time.

Listening, Wally?

Bush wants DEMOCRACY in Mideast??? Or "credibility"?
 

There is nothing wrong with alt.sex.fetish.sheep

Clams Canino wrote:

He forgot alt.sex.fetish.sheep too.

-W just sayin'

"Myal" wrote in message
...


"Bill in Co." wrote in message
link.net...


On what topic? And for what group, Igor? Make up your mind.


Looks


like


you've got four crossposted groups in here. Perhaps your son can


clarify


it.

He forgot alt.barefoot for some reason :)



Ignoramus14327 wrote:


In article , John Gaquin


wrote:


"Ignoramus14327" wrote in


message





I have to ask, the US has been occupying Iraq for 6 months
already. Quite a bit of time. Where are the elections?


Clearly no knowledge or grasp of history. Utterly clueless.

Disregard remaining blather.




If you have nothing to say, do not say anything.

If you do have something to say, put forth your case.

i