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![]() "Gould 0738" wrote in message ... The more unrestricted rec.boats can be, the closer it resembles the real world. Not even close. The world where arguments are more often impassioned than logical. A world where insult, slander, gossip and personal attack are common currency. In the real world 99% of these people don't have the intestinal fortitude to face the possible physical ramifications of insulting personal attacks on a complete stranger. I have never been in a Marina or at a Drop Zone or in a hunting camp where a political conversation broke down into name calling and did not result in 1 or more of the participants paying with blood or real personal embarrasment by slinking out with their tail between their legs. I know the left does not agree with having to back what you say but that is the world that I know. As John Wayne said in the shootist " I will not be insulted, I will not be stolen from and I will not be laid a hand upon. I don't do these things to other men and I require the same from them." Should there be places in such a world where everybody agrees to behave in a civil manner and exchange ideas restricted to subjects agreed upon in advance? Yes, that would be nice.....but is it realistic? I lurk and post on a couple of other newsgroups that are moderated to ensure all posts are "On-Topic" and I love them. I had some luck earlier this year when people were using the OT in front of these posts and with the use of the killfile I was able to make it look almost like a boating newsgroup, but it seems even that little piece of etiquette has gone by the wayside. As others have said there are so many places meant for those posts that there is no need for them to be here. I have also been drawn in here a couple of times myself and really try not to. There would be no temptation to get drawn in if those posts were in the group they belong in. Terry |