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Both $3.Thanks to Joey and his crew of incompetants.
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justan wrote:
Both $3.Thanks to Joey and his crew of incompetants. Cheap compared to here. |
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justan wrote: Both $3.Thanks to Joey and his crew of incompetants.Cheap compared to here. We have Desantis. You don't have any buffer at all between you and those incompetants in Washington. -- Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet? ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...net/index.html |
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On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 13:35:05 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:
Bill Wrote in message:r justan wrote: Both $3.Thanks to Joey and his crew of incompetants.Cheap compared to here. We have Desantis. You don't have any buffer at all between you and those incompetants in Washington. California likes to punish poor people. Those who can't afford an electric car. Gas was $2.959 today, it has been $2.799 or $2.759 at Speedway. |
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On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 13:35:05 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: Bill Wrote in message:r justan wrote: Both $3.Thanks to Joey and his crew of incompetants.Cheap compared to here. We have Desantis. You don't have any buffer at all between you and those incompetants in Washington. California likes to punish poor people. Those who can't afford an electric car. Gas was $2.959 today, it has been $2.799 or $2.759 at Speedway. Nah, Newsom needs all the tax money he can get to buy votes. Especially against his recall. They added 20 cents extra diesel tax last year as well as a little less to gas. Plus the state requires around 26 special blends for each season which costs about a million gallons of waste each time. I paid $4.09 for regular on I-5 yesterday coming back from Los Angeles. Filled up at Costco Livermore when near home at $3.99. Used more fuel than normal because of the high winds. Usually around 33 mpg in the Volt, but was about 29 yesterday. Got to Tracy area and two different semi’s were blown over. |
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On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 3:43:06 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 13:35:05 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: Bill Wrote in message:r justan wrote: Both $3.Thanks to Joey and his crew of incompetants.Cheap compared to here. We have Desantis. You don't have any buffer at all between you and those incompetants in Washington. California likes to punish poor people. Those who can't afford an electric car. Gas was $2.959 today, it has been $2.799 or $2.759 at Speedway. === The price of crude is up because increases in demand are outpacing increases in supply. When refineries pay more for their feed-stock, the price of their production follows right along. Planes are flying again and people are driving a lot more. |
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On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 8:34:29 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
wrote: On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 3:43:06 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 13:35:05 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: Bill Wrote in message:r justan wrote: Both $3.Thanks to Joey and his crew of incompetants.Cheap compared to here. We have Desantis. You don't have any buffer at all between you and those incompetants in Washington. California likes to punish poor people. Those who can't afford an electric car. Gas was $2.959 today, it has been $2.799 or $2.759 at Speedway. === The price of crude is up because increases in demand are outpacing increases in supply. When refineries pay more for their feed-stock, the price of their production follows right along. Planes are flying again and people are driving a lot more. I don’t really believe that is the cause. There is a tremendous backlog of crude. I understand they had to slow down pumping as there was no storage availability. I think it is a truer indicator of inflation than what the Fed is stating. === It's true that the price of energy flows through the economy and eventually affects the price of everything, similar to what happened in the 1970s and 80s. If demand continues to outpace supply, oil will continue to rise in price until either demand decreases or supply increases. |
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Wrote in message:r On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 8:34:29 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 3:43:06 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 13:35:05 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: Bill Wrote in message:r justan wrote: Both $3.Thanks to Joey and his crew of incompetants.Cheap compared to here. We have Desantis. You don't have any buffer at all between you and those incompetants in Washington. California likes to punish poor people. Those who can't afford an electric car. Gas was $2.959 today, it has been $2.799 or $2.759 at Speedway. === The price of crude is up because increases in demand are outpacing increases in supply. When refineries pay more for their feed-stock, the price of their production follows right along. Planes are flying again and people are driving a lot more. I don?t really believe that is the cause. There is a tremendous backlog of crude. I understand they had to slow down pumping as there was no storage availability. I think it is a truer indicator of inflation than what the Fed is stating.===It's true that the price of energy flows through the economy and eventually affects the price of everything, similar to what happened in the 1970s and 80s. If demand continues to outpace supply, oil will continue to rise in price until either demand decreases or supply increases. Haven't you heard? We have a goodly supply stored underground. Enough to run a war for as long as it takes. Thanks to sleepy Joe, we won't have enough pipeline to move it to the refinerys as needed. Your adopted party is killing America. The big question is Why. -- Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet? ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...net/index.html |
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On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 8:21:12 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:
" Wrote in message:r On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 8:34:29 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 3:43:06 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 13:35:05 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: Bill Wrote in message:r justan wrote: Both $3.Thanks to Joey and his crew of incompetants.Cheap compared to here. We have Desantis. You don't have any buffer at all between you and those incompetants in Washington. California likes to punish poor people. Those who can't afford an electric car. Gas was $2.959 today, it has been $2.799 or $2.759 at Speedway. === The price of crude is up because increases in demand are outpacing increases in supply. When refineries pay more for their feed-stock, the price of their production follows right along. Planes are flying again and people are driving a lot more. I don?t really believe that is the cause. There is a tremendous backlog of crude. I understand they had to slow down pumping as there was no storage availability. I think it is a truer indicator of inflation than what the Fed is stating.===It's true that the price of energy flows through the economy and eventually affects the price of everything, similar to what happened in the 1970s and 80s. If demand continues to outpace supply, oil will continue to rise in price until either demand decreases or supply increases. Haven't you heard? We have a goodly supply stored underground. Enough to run a war for as long as it takes. Thanks to sleepy Joe, we won't have enough pipeline to move it to the refinerys as needed. Your adopted party is killing America. The big question is Why. -- Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet? ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...net/index.html === So I guess you are willing to trade the democracy foundation of this country for a pipeline? I'm not. FWIW, I disagreed with the decision to cancel the Keystone pipeline, and will probably disagree with more decisions and policy initiatives down the line. Protecting democracy has a price. |
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Wrote in message:r On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 8:21:12 AM UTC-4, justan wrote: " Wrote in message:r On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 8:34:29 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 3:43:06 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 13:35:05 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: Bill Wrote in message:r justan wrote: Both $3.Thanks to Joey and his crew of incompetants.Cheap compared to here. We have Desantis. You don't have any buffer at all between you and those incompetants in Washington. California likes to punish poor people. Those who can't afford an electric car. Gas was $2.959 today, it has been $2.799 or $2.759 at Speedway. === The price of crude is up because increases in demand are outpacing increases in supply. When refineries pay more for their feed-stock, the price of their production follows right along. Planes are flying again and people are driving a lot more. I don?t really believe that is the cause. There is a tremendous backlog of crude. I understand they had to slow down pumping as there was no storage availability. I think it is a truer indicator of inflation than what the Fed is stating.===It's true that the price of energy flows through the economy and eventually affects the price of everything, similar to what happened in the 1970s and 80s. If demand continues to outpace supply, oil will continue to rise in price until either demand decreases or supply increases. Haven't you heard? We have a goodly supply stored underground. Enough to run a war for as long as it takes. Thanks to sleepy Joe, we won't have enough pipeline to move it to the refinerys as needed. Your adopted party is killing America. The big question is Why. -- Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet? ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...ndex.html===So I guess you are willing to trade the democracy foundation of this country for a pipeline? I'm not. FWIW, I disagreed with the decision to cancel the Keystone pipeline, and will probably disagree with more decisions and policy initiatives down the line. Protecting democracy has a price. I fail to see where the current cast of characters in power have any interest in protecting democracy, or the foundation upon which this country was built. I don't know what's gotten into you but you need to get it excised. :-) -- Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet? ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...net/index.html |
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On Wednesday, 9 June 2021 at 10:01:17 UTC-3, justan wrote:
" Wrote in message:r On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 8:21:12 AM UTC-4, justan wrote: " Wrote in message:r On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 8:34:29 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 3:43:06 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 13:35:05 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: Bill Wrote in message:r justan wrote: Both $3.Thanks to Joey and his crew of incompetants.Cheap compared to here. We have Desantis. You don't have any buffer at all between you and those incompetants in Washington. California likes to punish poor people. Those who can't afford an electric car. Gas was $2.959 today, it has been $2.799 or $2.759 at Speedway. === The price of crude is up because increases in demand are outpacing increases in supply. When refineries pay more for their feed-stock, the price of their production follows right along. Planes are flying again and people are driving a lot more. I don?t really believe that is the cause. There is a tremendous backlog of crude. I understand they had to slow down pumping as there was no storage availability. I think it is a truer indicator of inflation than what the Fed is stating.===It's true that the price of energy flows through the economy and eventually affects the price of everything, similar to what happened in the 1970s and 80s. If demand continues to outpace supply, oil will continue to rise in price until either demand decreases or supply increases. Haven't you heard? We have a goodly supply stored underground. Enough to run a war for as long as it takes. Thanks to sleepy Joe, we won't have enough pipeline to move it to the refinerys as needed. Your adopted party is killing America. The big question is Why. -- Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet? ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...dex..html===So I guess you are willing to trade the democracy foundation of this country for a pipeline? I'm not. FWIW, I disagreed with the decision to cancel the Keystone pipeline, and will probably disagree with more decisions and policy initiatives down the line. Protecting democracy has a price. I fail to see where the current cast of characters in power have any interest in protecting democracy, or the foundation upon which this country was built. I don't know what's gotten into you but you need to get it excised. :-) -- Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet? ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...net/index.html Is it possible that Wayne might be a bit more progressive than y'all and the rest of your toilet dwelling turds? If I was a betting man, that's where my money would go. BTW if anyone needs an exorcism it's you and your ilk. In the meantime a good flush might help. |
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On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 05:45:20 -0700 (PDT),
" wrote: On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 8:21:12 AM UTC-4, justan wrote: " Wrote in message:r On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 8:34:29 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 3:43:06 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 13:35:05 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: Bill Wrote in message:r justan wrote: Both $3.Thanks to Joey and his crew of incompetants.Cheap compared to here. We have Desantis. You don't have any buffer at all between you and those incompetants in Washington. California likes to punish poor people. Those who can't afford an electric car. Gas was $2.959 today, it has been $2.799 or $2.759 at Speedway. === The price of crude is up because increases in demand are outpacing increases in supply. When refineries pay more for their feed-stock, the price of their production follows right along. Planes are flying again and people are driving a lot more. I don?t really believe that is the cause. There is a tremendous backlog of crude. I understand they had to slow down pumping as there was no storage availability. I think it is a truer indicator of inflation than what the Fed is stating.===It's true that the price of energy flows through the economy and eventually affects the price of everything, similar to what happened in the 1970s and 80s. If demand continues to outpace supply, oil will continue to rise in price until either demand decreases or supply increases. Haven't you heard? We have a goodly supply stored underground. Enough to run a war for as long as it takes. Thanks to sleepy Joe, we won't have enough pipeline to move it to the refinerys as needed. Your adopted party is killing America. The big question is Why. -- Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet? ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...net/index.html === So I guess you are willing to trade the democracy foundation of this country for a pipeline? I'm not. FWIW, I disagreed with the decision to cancel the Keystone pipeline, and will probably disagree with more decisions and policy initiatives down the line. Protecting democracy has a price. How does canceling the pipeline "protect democracy"? The whole concept of the 1st amendment is that we are allowed do disagree with policy decisions made pretty much unilaterally by one party. In this case they didn't even have much of an argument why the pipeline was worse than thousands of tanker cars riding down Warren Buffett's railroad every week. He distanced himself from owning the cars but he still gets paid for hauling them. Although there is PR value in that decision, it was probably made by his risk management lawyers. The oil itself is going to make it to market and either the US will refine it or they will ship it to someone who will. The pipeline is the most energy and carbon efficient way to do it. Richard is correct about the electric cars, all they do is move the smokestack down the road. |
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On 6/9/2021 9:42 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 05:45:20 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 8:21:12 AM UTC-4, justan wrote: " Wrote in message:r On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 8:34:29 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 3:43:06 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 13:35:05 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: Bill Wrote in message:r justan wrote: Both $3.Thanks to Joey and his crew of incompetants.Cheap compared to here. We have Desantis. You don't have any buffer at all between you and those incompetants in Washington. California likes to punish poor people. Those who can't afford an electric car. Gas was $2.959 today, it has been $2.799 or $2.759 at Speedway. === The price of crude is up because increases in demand are outpacing increases in supply. When refineries pay more for their feed-stock, the price of their production follows right along. Planes are flying again and people are driving a lot more. I don?t really believe that is the cause. There is a tremendous backlog of crude. I understand they had to slow down pumping as there was no storage availability. I think it is a truer indicator of inflation than what the Fed is stating.===It's true that the price of energy flows through the economy and eventually affects the price of everything, similar to what happened in the 1970s and 80s. If demand continues to outpace supply, oil will continue to rise in price until either demand decreases or supply increases. Haven't you heard? We have a goodly supply stored underground. Enough to run a war for as long as it takes. Thanks to sleepy Joe, we won't have enough pipeline to move it to the refinerys as needed. Your adopted party is killing America. The big question is Why. -- Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet? ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...net/index.html === So I guess you are willing to trade the democracy foundation of this country for a pipeline? I'm not. FWIW, I disagreed with the decision to cancel the Keystone pipeline, and will probably disagree with more decisions and policy initiatives down the line. Protecting democracy has a price. How does canceling the pipeline "protect democracy"? The whole concept of the 1st amendment is that we are allowed do disagree with policy decisions made pretty much unilaterally by one party. In this case they didn't even have much of an argument why the pipeline was worse than thousands of tanker cars riding down Warren Buffett's railroad every week. He distanced himself from owning the cars but he still gets paid for hauling them. Although there is PR value in that decision, it was probably made by his risk management lawyers. The oil itself is going to make it to market and either the US will refine it or they will ship it to someone who will. The pipeline is the most energy and carbon efficient way to do it. Richard is correct about the electric cars, all they do is move the smokestack down the road. Biden and the Dems are basing their decisions and actions solely on the basis of what Trump did or didn't do. There's no reasoning or logic involved. Just politics. They hate Trump. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/8/2021 11:20 PM, wrote: On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 8:34:29 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 3:43:06 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 13:35:05 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: Bill Wrote in message:r justan wrote: Both $3.Thanks to Joey and his crew of incompetants.Cheap compared to here. We have Desantis. You don't have any buffer at all between you and those incompetants in Washington. California likes to punish poor people. Those who can't afford an electric car. Gas was $2.959 today, it has been $2.799 or $2.759 at Speedway. === The price of crude is up because increases in demand are outpacing increases in supply. When refineries pay more for their feed-stock, the price of their production follows right along. Planes are flying again and people are driving a lot more. I don’t really believe that is the cause. There is a tremendous backlog of crude. I understand they had to slow down pumping as there was no storage availability. I think it is a truer indicator of inflation than what the Fed is stating. === It's true that the price of energy flows through the economy and eventually affects the price of everything, similar to what happened in the 1970s and 80s. If demand continues to outpace supply, oil will continue to rise in price until either demand decreases or supply increases. I am still hung up on the push for fully electric vehicles. Back when the "peak oil" theory was popular many experts claimed we would very soon run out of oil. Turns out that wasn't true. The world has an abundance of oil. The new focus is on how "clean" it is. The effects on global warming due to burning fossil fuels are categorized as being "front end" and "back end". Electric vehicles are "back end" meaning they don't contribute negatively to the climate as they use the stored energy in their batteries. But the "front end" effects are still there because fossil fuels still are the dominant source of energy (89 percent) that generates the power used to charge the electric vehicle batteries. Until that changes, increased use of electric vehicles will actually have more of a negative effect than gas/diesel powered vehicles overall. This may improve if more sources such as wind, solar, geothermal, etc. sources are developed however it's going to take a *lot* of it to equal the fossil fuel energy used by gas and diesel powered vehicles. The demand may be outpaced by the number of electric vehicles in use, especially if they are mandated by governments too soon. Sources of "clean" electric generation *must* be developed simultaneously with the increasing emphasis on electric vehicles. Then, there is the problem of overloading an outdated electric distribution grid as it is required to supply power equal to that currently being used by fossil fuel powered vehicles in addition to that currently used for other purposes. That amount of power must be gigantic. A good video on battery, solar, wind, fossil. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOUUk5REbiU |
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On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 13:35:05 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:
Bill Wrote in message:r justan wrote: Both $3.Thanks to Joey and his crew of incompetants.Cheap compared to here. We have Desantis. You don't have any buffer at all between you and those incompetants in Washington. What a ****ing idiot. Yeah, both of you. Learn to spell moron. |
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On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 21:40:50 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: wrote: On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 13:35:05 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: Bill Wrote in message:r justan wrote: Both $3.Thanks to Joey and his crew of incompetants.Cheap compared to here. We have Desantis. You don't have any buffer at all between you and those incompetants in Washington. California likes to punish poor people. Those who can't afford an electric car. Gas was $2.959 today, it has been $2.799 or $2.759 at Speedway. Nah, Newsom needs all the tax money he can get to buy votes. Especially against his recall. They added 20 cents extra diesel tax last year as well as a little less to gas. Plus the state requires around 26 special blends for each season which costs about a million gallons of waste each time. I paid $4.09 for regular on I-5 yesterday coming back from Los Angeles. Filled up at Costco Livermore when near home at $3.99. Used more fuel than normal because of the high winds. Usually around 33 mpg in the Volt, but was about 29 yesterday. Got to Tracy area and two different semi’s were blown over. Spoofer! |
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On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 09:01:15 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:
" Wrote in message:r On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 8:21:12 AM UTC-4, justan wrote: " Wrote in message:r On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 8:34:29 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 3:43:06 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 13:35:05 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: Bill Wrote in message:r justan wrote: Both $3.Thanks to Joey and his crew of incompetants.Cheap compared to here. We have Desantis. You don't have any buffer at all between you and those incompetants in Washington. California likes to punish poor people. Those who can't afford an electric car. Gas was $2.959 today, it has been $2.799 or $2.759 at Speedway. === The price of crude is up because increases in demand are outpacing increases in supply. When refineries pay more for their feed-stock, the price of their production follows right along. Planes are flying again and people are driving a lot more. I don?t really believe that is the cause. There is a tremendous backlog of crude. I understand they had to slow down pumping as there was no storage availability. I think it is a truer indicator of inflation than what the Fed is stating.===It's true that the price of energy flows through the economy and eventually affects the price of everything, similar to what happened in the 1970s and 80s. If demand continues to outpace supply, oil will continue to rise in price until either demand decreases or supply increases. Haven't you heard? We have a goodly supply stored underground. Enough to run a war for as long as it takes. Thanks to sleepy Joe, we won't have enough pipeline to move it to the refinerys as needed. Your adopted party is killing America. The big question is Why. -- Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet? ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...ndex.html===So I guess you are willing to trade the democracy foundation of this country for a pipeline? I'm not. FWIW, I disagreed with the decision to cancel the Keystone pipeline, and will probably disagree with more decisions and policy initiatives down the line. Protecting democracy has a price. I fail to see where the current cast of characters in power have any interest in protecting democracy, or the foundation upon which this country was built. I don't know what's gotten into you but you need to get it excised. :-) Spoofer! -- Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet? ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...net/index.html |
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On Wed, 09 Jun 2021 09:42:20 -0400, wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 05:45:20 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 8:21:12 AM UTC-4, justan wrote: " Wrote in message:r On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 8:34:29 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 3:43:06 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 13:35:05 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: Bill Wrote in message:r justan wrote: Both $3.Thanks to Joey and his crew of incompetants.Cheap compared to here. We have Desantis. You don't have any buffer at all between you and those incompetants in Washington. California likes to punish poor people. Those who can't afford an electric car. Gas was $2.959 today, it has been $2.799 or $2.759 at Speedway. === The price of crude is up because increases in demand are outpacing increases in supply. When refineries pay more for their feed-stock, the price of their production follows right along. Planes are flying again and people are driving a lot more. I don?t really believe that is the cause. There is a tremendous backlog of crude. I understand they had to slow down pumping as there was no storage availability. I think it is a truer indicator of inflation than what the Fed is stating.===It's true that the price of energy flows through the economy and eventually affects the price of everything, similar to what happened in the 1970s and 80s. If demand continues to outpace supply, oil will continue to rise in price until either demand decreases or supply increases. Haven't you heard? We have a goodly supply stored underground. Enough to run a war for as long as it takes. Thanks to sleepy Joe, we won't have enough pipeline to move it to the refinerys as needed. Your adopted party is killing America. The big question is Why. -- Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet? ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...net/index.html === So I guess you are willing to trade the democracy foundation of this country for a pipeline? I'm not. FWIW, I disagreed with the decision to cancel the Keystone pipeline, and will probably disagree with more decisions and policy initiatives down the line. Protecting democracy has a price. How does canceling the pipeline "protect democracy"? The whole concept of the 1st amendment is that we are allowed do disagree with policy decisions made pretty much unilaterally by one party. In this case they didn't even have much of an argument why the pipeline was worse than thousands of tanker cars riding down Warren Buffett's railroad every week. He distanced himself from owning the cars but he still gets paid for hauling them. Although there is PR value in that decision, it was probably made by his risk management lawyers. The oil itself is going to make it to market and either the US will refine it or they will ship it to someone who will. The pipeline is the most energy and carbon efficient way to do it. Richard is correct about the electric cars, all they do is move the smokestack down the road. Spoofer! |
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On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 08:21:08 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:
" Wrote in message:r On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 8:34:29 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 3:43:06 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 13:35:05 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: Bill Wrote in message:r justan wrote: Both $3.Thanks to Joey and his crew of incompetants.Cheap compared to here. We have Desantis. You don't have any buffer at all between you and those incompetants in Washington. California likes to punish poor people. Those who can't afford an electric car. Gas was $2.959 today, it has been $2.799 or $2.759 at Speedway. === The price of crude is up because increases in demand are outpacing increases in supply. When refineries pay more for their feed-stock, the price of their production follows right along. Planes are flying again and people are driving a lot more. I don?t really believe that is the cause. There is a tremendous backlog of crude. I understand they had to slow down pumping as there was no storage availability. I think it is a truer indicator of inflation than what the Fed is stating.===It's true that the price of energy flows through the economy and eventually affects the price of everything, similar to what happened in the 1970s and 80s. If demand continues to outpace supply, oil will continue to rise in price until either demand decreases or supply increases. Haven't you heard? We have a goodly supply stored underground. Enough to run a war for as long as it takes. Thanks to sleepy Joe, we won't have enough pipeline to move it to the refinerys as needed. Your adopted party is killing America. The big question is Why. Spoofer! -- Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet? ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...net/index.html |
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On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 9:01:17 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:
" Wrote in message:r On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 8:21:12 AM UTC-4, justan wrote: " Wrote in message:r On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 8:34:29 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 3:43:06 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 13:35:05 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: Bill Wrote in message:r justan wrote: Both $3.Thanks to Joey and his crew of incompetants.Cheap compared to here. We have Desantis. You don't have any buffer at all between you and those incompetants in Washington. California likes to punish poor people. Those who can't afford an electric car. Gas was $2.959 today, it has been $2.799 or $2.759 at Speedway. === The price of crude is up because increases in demand are outpacing increases in supply. When refineries pay more for their feed-stock, the price of their production follows right along. Planes are flying again and people are driving a lot more. I don?t really believe that is the cause. There is a tremendous backlog of crude. I understand they had to slow down pumping as there was no storage availability. I think it is a truer indicator of inflation than what the Fed is stating.===It's true that the price of energy flows through the economy and eventually affects the price of everything, similar to what happened in the 1970s and 80s. If demand continues to outpace supply, oil will continue to rise in price until either demand decreases or supply increases. Haven't you heard? We have a goodly supply stored underground. Enough to run a war for as long as it takes. Thanks to sleepy Joe, we won't have enough pipeline to move it to the refinerys as needed. Your adopted party is killing America. The big question is Why. -- Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet? ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...dex..html===So I guess you are willing to trade the democracy foundation of this country for a pipeline? I'm not. FWIW, I disagreed with the decision to cancel the Keystone pipeline, and will probably disagree with more decisions and policy initiatives down the line. Protecting democracy has a price. I fail to see where the current cast of characters in power have any interest in protecting democracy, or the foundation upon which this country was built. I don't know what's gotten into you but you need to get it excised. :-) -- Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet? ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...net/index.html === If you love your Trump, you can have him. Please don't let him anywhere near government office again however. |
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On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 9:01:17 AM UTC-4, justan wrote: " Wrote in message:r On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 8:21:12 AM UTC-4, justan wrote: " Wrote in message:r On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 8:34:29 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 3:43:06 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 13:35:05 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: Bill Wrote in message:r justan wrote: Both $3.Thanks to Joey and his crew of incompetants.Cheap compared to here. We have Desantis. You don't have any buffer at all between you and those incompetants in Washington. California likes to punish poor people. Those who can't afford an electric car. Gas was $2.959 today, it has been $2.799 or $2.759 at Speedway. === The price of crude is up because increases in demand are outpacing increases in supply. When refineries pay more for their feed-stock, the price of their production follows right along. Planes are flying again and people are driving a lot more. I don?t really believe that is the cause. There is a tremendous backlog of crude. I understand they had to slow down pumping as there was no storage availability. I think it is a truer indicator of inflation than what the Fed is stating.===It's true that the price of energy flows through the economy and eventually affects the price of everything, similar to what happened in the 1970s and 80s. If demand continues to outpace supply, oil will continue to rise in price until either demand decreases or supply increases. Haven't you heard? We have a goodly supply stored underground. Enough to run a war for as long as it takes.. Thanks to sleepy Joe, we won't have enough pipeline to move it to the refinerys as needed. Your adopted party is killing America. The big question is Why. -- Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet? ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...ndex.html===So I guess you are willing to trade the democracy foundation of this country for a pipeline? I'm not. FWIW, I disagreed with the decision to cancel the Keystone pipeline, and will probably disagree with more decisions and policy initiatives down the line. Protecting democracy has a price. I fail to see where the current cast of characters in power have any interest in protecting democracy, or the foundation upon which this country was built. I don't know what's gotten into you but you need to get it excised. :-) -- Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet? ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...net/index.html === If you love your Trump, you can have him. Please don't let him anywhere near government office again however. Why? Until covid hit, the country was doing awesome under Trump. You can fall back on that tired "destroying democracy" BS, but that was just the liberal MSM rallying cry. Yes, he needed to put down his phone and get off of social media, but his policies were solid. Besides, it was fun watching all the liberal's heads explode! :) Hope you are invested in some safe places. Kneepad Kammy and Hiden Biden would love to get their hands on it and buy some more votes! |
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On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 9:01:17 AM UTC-4, justan wrote: " Wrote in message:r On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 8:21:12 AM UTC-4, justan wrote: " Wrote in message:r On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 8:34:29 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 3:43:06 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 13:35:05 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: Bill Wrote in message:r justan wrote: Both $3.Thanks to Joey and his crew of incompetants.Cheap compared to here. We have Desantis. You don't have any buffer at all between you and those incompetants in Washington. California likes to punish poor people. Those who can't afford an electric car. Gas was $2.959 today, it has been $2.799 or $2.759 at Speedway. === The price of crude is up because increases in demand are outpacing increases in supply. When refineries pay more for their feed-stock, the price of their production follows right along. Planes are flying again and people are driving a lot more. I don?t really believe that is the cause. There is a tremendous backlog of crude. I understand they had to slow down pumping as there was no storage availability. I think it is a truer indicator of inflation than what the Fed is stating.===It's true that the price of energy flows through the economy and eventually affects the price of everything, similar to what happened in the 1970s and 80s. If demand continues to outpace supply, oil will continue to rise in price until either demand decreases or supply increases. Haven't you heard? We have a goodly supply stored underground. Enough to run a war for as long as it takes. Thanks to sleepy Joe, we won't have enough pipeline to move it to the refinerys as needed. Your adopted party is killing America. The big question is Why. -- Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet? ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...ndex.html===So I guess you are willing to trade the democracy foundation of this country for a pipeline? I'm not. FWIW, I disagreed with the decision to cancel the Keystone pipeline, and will probably disagree with more decisions and policy initiatives down the line. Protecting democracy has a price. I fail to see where the current cast of characters in power have any interest in protecting democracy, or the foundation upon which this country was built. I don't know what's gotten into you but you need to get it excised. :-) -- Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet? ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...net/index.html == If you love your Trump, you can have him. Please don't let him anywhere near government office again however. Trump was an egotistical arshole. But, as a President, he did a lot better than the previous 5 did. Addressed a lot of lingering problems. Like, why are we still paying for Europe’s defense 70+ years after the end of WW2. He put China on notice for stealing intellectual property and then selling the **** to us cheaper. He started no new wars, and worked at getting us out of the Middle East quagmire. He did super compared to give away money, and then give more away then President Joe Pathetic. |
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On 6/9/2021 11:10 PM, Bill wrote:
wrote: On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 9:01:17 AM UTC-4, justan wrote: " Wrote in message:r On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 8:21:12 AM UTC-4, justan wrote: " Wrote in message:r On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 8:34:29 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 3:43:06 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 13:35:05 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: Bill Wrote in message:r justan wrote: Both $3.Thanks to Joey and his crew of incompetants.Cheap compared to here. We have Desantis. You don't have any buffer at all between you and those incompetants in Washington. California likes to punish poor people. Those who can't afford an electric car. Gas was $2.959 today, it has been $2.799 or $2.759 at Speedway. === The price of crude is up because increases in demand are outpacing increases in supply. When refineries pay more for their feed-stock, the price of their production follows right along. Planes are flying again and people are driving a lot more. I don?t really believe that is the cause. There is a tremendous backlog of crude. I understand they had to slow down pumping as there was no storage availability. I think it is a truer indicator of inflation than what the Fed is stating.===It's true that the price of energy flows through the economy and eventually affects the price of everything, similar to what happened in the 1970s and 80s. If demand continues to outpace supply, oil will continue to rise in price until either demand decreases or supply increases. Haven't you heard? We have a goodly supply stored underground. Enough to run a war for as long as it takes. Thanks to sleepy Joe, we won't have enough pipeline to move it to the refinerys as needed. Your adopted party is killing America. The big question is Why. -- Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet? ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...ndex.html===So I guess you are willing to trade the democracy foundation of this country for a pipeline? I'm not. FWIW, I disagreed with the decision to cancel the Keystone pipeline, and will probably disagree with more decisions and policy initiatives down the line. Protecting democracy has a price. I fail to see where the current cast of characters in power have any interest in protecting democracy, or the foundation upon which this country was built. I don't know what's gotten into you but you need to get it excised. :-) -- Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet? ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...net/index.html == If you love your Trump, you can have him. Please don't let him anywhere near government office again however. Trump was an egotistical arshole. But, as a President, he did a lot better than the previous 5 did. Addressed a lot of lingering problems. Like, why are we still paying for Europe’s defense 70+ years after the end of WW2. He put China on notice for stealing intellectual property and then selling the **** to us cheaper. He started no new wars, and worked at getting us out of the Middle East quagmire. He did super compared to give away money, and then give more away then President Joe Pathetic. I think most people who long to be politicians have a degree of ego that exceeds that of others. They love the limelight, the attention and the feeling of importance or power. I crack up when a Congress member has a news conference to announce some issue. He or she are always surrounded by a bunch of others making sure their face is seen by the viewers as well. There are exceptions of course. I don't think Jimmy Carter has a particularly huge ego. He was just a lousy POTUS. I don't think Ronald Reagan became a politician due to ego. He already had enough as an actor. Trump's ego derived from his business world career. He has a sense of practicality that doesn't sit well in the minds of ego driven politicians referring to each other as "my friends" even if a member of the other party. Trump calls them out for what they are. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 7:03:23 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/9/2021 11:10 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 9:01:17 AM UTC-4, justan wrote: " Wrote in message:r On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 8:21:12 AM UTC-4, justan wrote: " Wrote in message:r On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 8:34:29 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 3:43:06 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 13:35:05 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: Bill Wrote in message:r justan wrote: Both $3.Thanks to Joey and his crew of incompetants.Cheap compared to here. We have Desantis. You don't have any buffer at all between you and those incompetants in Washington. California likes to punish poor people. Those who can't afford an electric car. Gas was $2.959 today, it has been $2.799 or $2.759 at Speedway. === The price of crude is up because increases in demand are outpacing increases in supply. When refineries pay more for their feed-stock, the price of their production follows right along. Planes are flying again and people are driving a lot more. I don?t really believe that is the cause. There is a tremendous backlog of crude. I understand they had to slow down pumping as there was no storage availability. I think it is a truer indicator of inflation than what the Fed is stating.===It's true that the price of energy flows through the economy and eventually affects the price of everything, similar to what happened in the 1970s and 80s. If demand continues to outpace supply, oil will continue to rise in price until either demand decreases or supply increases. Haven't you heard? We have a goodly supply stored underground. Enough to run a war for as long as it takes. Thanks to sleepy Joe, we won't have enough pipeline to move it to the refinerys as needed. Your adopted party is killing America. The big question is Why. -- Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet? ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...ndex.html===So I guess you are willing to trade the democracy foundation of this country for a pipeline? I'm not. FWIW, I disagreed with the decision to cancel the Keystone pipeline, and will probably disagree with more decisions and policy initiatives down the line. Protecting democracy has a price. I fail to see where the current cast of characters in power have any interest in protecting democracy, or the foundation upon which this country was built. I don't know what's gotten into you but you need to get it excised. :-) -- Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet? ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...net/index.html == If you love your Trump, you can have him. Please don't let him anywhere near government office again however. Trump was an egotistical arshole. But, as a President, he did a lot better than the previous 5 did. Addressed a lot of lingering problems. Like, why are we still paying for Europe’s defense 70+ years after the end of WW2. He put China on notice for stealing intellectual property and then selling the **** to us cheaper. He started no new wars, and worked at getting us out of the Middle East quagmire. He did super compared to give away money, and then give more away then President Joe Pathetic. I think most people who long to be politicians have a degree of ego that exceeds that of others. They love the limelight, the attention and the feeling of importance or power. I crack up when a Congress member has a news conference to announce some issue. He or she are always surrounded by a bunch of others making sure their face is seen by the viewers as well. There are exceptions of course. I don't think Jimmy Carter has a particularly huge ego. He was just a lousy POTUS. I don't think Ronald Reagan became a politician due to ego. He already had enough as an actor. Trump's ego derived from his business world career. He has a sense of practicality that doesn't sit well in the minds of ego driven politicians referring to each other as "my friends" even if a member of the other party. Trump calls them out for what they are. All true. The other thing he did is call out the media for their obvious bias. He made an enemy of them during his campaign, and that did not serve him well during his presidency. They undermined him at every turn. |
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Wrote in message:r On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 9:01:17 AM UTC-4, justan wrote: " Wrote in message:r On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 8:21:12 AM UTC-4, justan wrote: " Wrote in message:r On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 8:34:29 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 3:43:06 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 13:35:05 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: Bill Wrote in message:r justan wrote: Both $3.Thanks to Joey and his crew of incompetants.Cheap compared to here. We have Desantis. You don't have any buffer at all between you and those incompetants in Washington. California likes to punish poor people. Those who can't afford an electric car. Gas was $2.959 today, it has been $2.799 or $2.759 at Speedway. === The price of crude is up because increases in demand are outpacing increases in supply. When refineries pay more for their feed-stock, the price of their production follows right along. Planes are flying again and people are driving a lot more. I don?t really believe that is the cause. There is a tremendous backlog of crude. I understand they had to slow down pumping as there was no storage availability. I think it is a truer indicator of inflation than what the Fed is stating.===It's true that the price of energy flows through the economy and eventually affects the price of everything, similar to what happened in the 1970s and 80s. If demand continues to outpace supply, oil will continue to rise in price until either demand decreases or supply increases. Haven't you heard? We have a goodly supply stored underground. Enough to run a war for as long as it takes. Thanks to sleepy Joe, we won't have enough pipeline to move it to the refinerys as needed. Your adopted party is killing America. The big question is Why. -- Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet? ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...ndex.html===So I guess you are willing to trade the democracy foundation of this country for a pipeline? I'm not. FWIW, I disagreed with the decision to cancel the Keystone pipeline, and will probably disagree with more decisions and policy initiatives down the line. Protecting democracy has a price. I fail to see where the current cast of characters in power have any interest in protecting democracy, or the foundation upon which this country was built. I don't know what's gotten into you but you need to get it excised. :-) -- Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet? ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...ndex.html===If you love your Trump, you can have him. Please don't let him anywhere near government office again however. Not on your life Wayne. America needs Trump or someone like him in the White House. Someone has to clean up the mess that the senile old Q-tip from Delaware is making. Would you prefer Desantis? He'd get it done but not nearly as quickly as Trump would/will. Do you think Bidens days are numbered? Why else would trot out Carmella for a look see? -- Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet? ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...net/index.html |
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On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 4:47:59 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 9:01:17 AM UTC-4, justan wrote: " Wrote in message:r On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 8:21:12 AM UTC-4, justan wrote: " Wrote in message:r On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 8:34:29 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 3:43:06 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 13:35:05 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: Bill Wrote in message:r justan wrote: Both $3.Thanks to Joey and his crew of incompetants.Cheap compared to here. We have Desantis. You don't have any buffer at all between you and those incompetants in Washington. California likes to punish poor people. Those who can't afford an electric car. Gas was $2.959 today, it has been $2.799 or $2.759 at Speedway. === The price of crude is up because increases in demand are outpacing increases in supply. When refineries pay more for their feed-stock, the price of their production follows right along. Planes are flying again and people are driving a lot more. I don?t really believe that is the cause. There is a tremendous backlog of crude. I understand they had to slow down pumping as there was no storage availability. I think it is a truer indicator of inflation than what the Fed is stating.===It's true that the price of energy flows through the economy and eventually affects the price of everything, similar to what happened in the 1970s and 80s. If demand continues to outpace supply, oil will continue to rise in price until either demand decreases or supply increases. Haven't you heard? We have a goodly supply stored underground. Enough to run a war for as long as it takes. Thanks to sleepy Joe, we won't have enough pipeline to move it to the refinerys as needed. Your adopted party is killing America. The big question is Why. -- Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet? ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...ndex.html===So I guess you are willing to trade the democracy foundation of this country for a pipeline? I'm not. FWIW, I disagreed with the decision to cancel the Keystone pipeline, and will probably disagree with more decisions and policy initiatives down the line. Protecting democracy has a price. I fail to see where the current cast of characters in power have any interest in protecting democracy, or the foundation upon which this country was built. I don't know what's gotten into you but you need to get it excised. :-) -- Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet? ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html === If you love your Trump, you can have him. Please don't let him anywhere near government office again however.Why? Until covid hit, the country was doing awesome under Trump. You can fall back on that tired "destroying democracy" BS, but that was just the liberal MSM rallying cry. Yes, he needed to put down his phone and get off of social media, but his policies were solid. Besides, it was fun watching all the liberal's heads explode!:)Hope you are invested in some safe places. Kneepad Kammy and Hiden Biden would love to get their hands on it and buy some more votes! I dont think Wayne is putting his money where his mouth is. That would be foolish. Ask him, Exxon or Solyndra? -- Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet? ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...net/index.html |
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On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 09:06:29 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:
I dont think Wayne is putting his money where his mouth is. That would be foolish. Ask him, Exxon or Solyndra? My XOM is up over 50% since I bought it last December. ($40-$67) |
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On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 20:33:47 -0400, Alex wrote:
wrote: On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 09:06:29 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: I dont think Wayne is putting his money where his mouth is. That would be foolish. Ask him, Exxon or Solyndra? My XOM is up over 50% since I bought it last December. ($40-$67) I'm up a bundle on USO but it might be time to sell my investment and hold the profit. That is always a question. Sell it within a year and pay the taxes or hold it a year and not pay taxes. (We are usually under the cap). |
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On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 20:33:47 -0400, Alex wrote: wrote: On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 09:06:29 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: I dont think Wayne is putting his money where his mouth is. That would be foolish. Ask him, Exxon or Solyndra? My XOM is up over 50% since I bought it last December. ($40-$67) I'm up a bundle on USO but it might be time to sell my investment and hold the profit. That is always a question. Sell it within a year and pay the taxes or hold it a year and not pay taxes. (We are usually under the cap). Always a question when to sell. I have XOM at 30. Unfortunately, I did not sell at the highs. |
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On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 15:23:02 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: wrote: On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 20:33:47 -0400, Alex wrote: wrote: On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 09:06:29 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: I dont think Wayne is putting his money where his mouth is. That would be foolish. Ask him, Exxon or Solyndra? My XOM is up over 50% since I bought it last December. ($40-$67) I'm up a bundle on USO but it might be time to sell my investment and hold the profit. That is always a question. Sell it within a year and pay the taxes or hold it a year and not pay taxes. (We are usually under the cap). Always a question when to sell. I have XOM at 30. Unfortunately, I did not sell at the highs. If you have a stock with a decent dividend, it does take some of the sting out of missing a peak. I am just mad I was asleep at the switch on CLNE. I had the chance for a double and I wasn't paying attention. I may be back in the red again. I am not sure what happened a couple of months ago. |
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On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 20:33:47 -0400, Alex wrote: wrote: On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 09:06:29 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: I dont think Wayne is putting his money where his mouth is. That would be foolish. Ask him, Exxon or Solyndra? My XOM is up over 50% since I bought it last December. ($40-$67) I'm up a bundle on USO but it might be time to sell my investment and hold the profit. That is always a question. Sell it within a year and pay the taxes or hold it a year and not pay taxes. (We are usually under the cap). I've had it over a year. |
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On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 23:19:29 -0400, Alex wrote:
wrote: On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 20:33:47 -0400, Alex wrote: wrote: On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 09:06:29 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: I dont think Wayne is putting his money where his mouth is. That would be foolish. Ask him, Exxon or Solyndra? My XOM is up over 50% since I bought it last December. ($40-$67) I'm up a bundle on USO but it might be time to sell my investment and hold the profit. That is always a question. Sell it within a year and pay the taxes or hold it a year and not pay taxes. (We are usually under the cap). I've had it over a year. Then the only question is what the up side potential is. If it is done, pick a good price and put in a sell order. If you are not to greedy it should trade. For little guys like us all we need is a few minutes of irrational exuberance we can tag along for. Warren Buffett trying to dump 100,000 shares could bend the market. |
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wrote: On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 8:21:12 AM UTC-4, justan wrote: " Wrote in message:r On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 8:34:29 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 3:43:06 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 13:35:05 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: Bill Wrote in message:r justan wrote: Both $3.Thanks to Joey and his crew of incompetants.Cheap compared to here. We have Desantis. You don't have any buffer at all between you and those incompetants in Washington. California likes to punish poor people. Those who can't afford an electric car. Gas was $2.959 today, it has been $2.799 or $2.759 at Speedway. === The price of crude is up because increases in demand are outpacing increases in supply. When refineries pay more for their feed-stock, the price of their production follows right along. Planes are flying again and people are driving a lot more. I don?t really believe that is the cause. There is a tremendous backlog of crude. I understand they had to slow down pumping as there was no storage availability. I think it is a truer indicator of inflation than what the Fed is stating.===It's true that the price of energy flows through the economy and eventually affects the price of everything, similar to what happened in the 1970s and 80s. If demand continues to outpace supply, oil will continue to rise in price until either demand decreases or supply increases. Haven't you heard? We have a goodly supply stored underground. Enough to run a war for as long as it takes. Thanks to sleepy Joe, we won't have enough pipeline to move it to the refinerys as needed. Your adopted party is killing America. The big question is Why. -- Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet? ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...net/index.html === So I guess you are willing to trade the democracy foundation of this country for a pipeline? I'm not. FWIW, I disagreed with the decision to cancel the Keystone pipeline, and will probably disagree with more decisions and policy initiatives down the line. Protecting democracy has a price. Democracy was never in doubt. More bull****. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 10:28:30 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 6/9/2021 9:42 AM, wrote: On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 05:45:20 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 8:21:12 AM UTC-4, justan wrote: " Wrote in message:r On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 8:34:29 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 3:43:06 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 13:35:05 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: Bill Wrote in message:r justan wrote: Both $3.Thanks to Joey and his crew of incompetants.Cheap compared to here. We have Desantis. You don't have any buffer at all between you and those incompetants in Washington. California likes to punish poor people. Those who can't afford an electric car. Gas was $2.959 today, it has been $2.799 or $2.759 at Speedway. === The price of crude is up because increases in demand are outpacing increases in supply. When refineries pay more for their feed-stock, the price of their production follows right along. Planes are flying again and people are driving a lot more. I don?t really believe that is the cause. There is a tremendous backlog of crude. I understand they had to slow down pumping as there was no storage availability. I think it is a truer indicator of inflation than what the Fed is stating.===It's true that the price of energy flows through the economy and eventually affects the price of everything, similar to what happened in the 1970s and 80s. If demand continues to outpace supply, oil will continue to rise in price until either demand decreases or supply increases. Haven't you heard? We have a goodly supply stored underground. Enough to run a war for as long as it takes. Thanks to sleepy Joe, we won't have enough pipeline to move it to the refinerys as needed. Your adopted party is killing America. The big question is Why. -- Thanks Donald. Do you miss him yet? ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...net/index.html === So I guess you are willing to trade the democracy foundation of this country for a pipeline? I'm not. FWIW, I disagreed with the decision to cancel the Keystone pipeline, and will probably disagree with more decisions and policy initiatives down the line. Protecting democracy has a price. How does canceling the pipeline "protect democracy"? The whole concept of the 1st amendment is that we are allowed do disagree with policy decisions made pretty much unilaterally by one party. In this case they didn't even have much of an argument why the pipeline was worse than thousands of tanker cars riding down Warren Buffett's railroad every week. He distanced himself from owning the cars but he still gets paid for hauling them. Although there is PR value in that decision, it was probably made by his risk management lawyers. The oil itself is going to make it to market and either the US will refine it or they will ship it to someone who will. The pipeline is the most energy and carbon efficient way to do it. Richard is correct about the electric cars, all they do is move the smokestack down the road. Biden and the Dems are basing their decisions and actions solely on the basis of what Trump did or didn't do. There's no reasoning or logic involved. Just politics. They hate Trump. But they're protecting the hell out of Democracy! A couple hundred thousand illegals entering the country will be a big boon to Democrat Democracy. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 12:16:03 PM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 06:19:32 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 6/8/2021 11:20 PM, wrote: On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 8:34:29 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 3:43:06 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 13:35:05 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: Bill Wrote in message:r justan wrote: Both $3.Thanks to Joey and his crew of incompetants.Cheap compared to here. We have Desantis. You don't have any buffer at all between you and those incompetants in Washington. California likes to punish poor people. Those who can't afford an electric car. Gas was $2.959 today, it has been $2.799 or $2.759 at Speedway. === The price of crude is up because increases in demand are outpacing increases in supply. When refineries pay more for their feed-stock, the price of their production follows right along. Planes are flying again and people are driving a lot more. I don’t really believe that is the cause. There is a tremendous backlog of crude. I understand they had to slow down pumping as there was no storage availability. I think it is a truer indicator of inflation than what the Fed is stating. === It's true that the price of energy flows through the economy and eventually affects the price of everything, similar to what happened in the 1970s and 80s. If demand continues to outpace supply, oil will continue to rise in price until either demand decreases or supply increases. I am still hung up on the push for fully electric vehicles. Back when the "peak oil" theory was popular many experts claimed we would very soon run out of oil. Turns out that wasn't true. The world has an abundance of oil. The new focus is on how "clean" it is. The effects on global warming due to burning fossil fuels are categorized as being "front end" and "back end". Electric vehicles are "back end" meaning they don't contribute negatively to the climate as they use the stored energy in their batteries. But the "front end" effects are still there because fossil fuels still are the dominant source of energy (89 percent) that generates the power used to charge the electric vehicle batteries. Until that changes, increased use of electric vehicles will actually have more of a negative effect than gas/diesel powered vehicles overall. This may improve if more sources such as wind, solar, geothermal, etc. sources are developed however it's going to take a *lot* of it to equal the fossil fuel energy used by gas and diesel powered vehicles. The demand may be outpaced by the number of electric vehicles in use, especially if they are mandated by governments too soon. Sources of "clean" electric generation *must* be developed simultaneously with the increasing emphasis on electric vehicles. Then, there is the problem of overloading an outdated electric distribution grid as it is required to supply power equal to that currently being used by fossil fuel powered vehicles in addition to that currently used for other purposes. That amount of power must be gigantic. You are not speaking the party line! -- Freedom Isn't Free! === What party line is that? You may have forgotten but I'm a man without a party since I'm disgusted with both Republicans and Democrats in more or less equal measure. I do own a fair number of energy stocks however since I regard them as both a good investment and a partial hedge against inflation. |
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On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 10:50:14 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote: On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 12:16:03 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 06:19:32 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 6/8/2021 11:20 PM, wrote: On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 8:34:29 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 3:43:06 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 13:35:05 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: Bill Wrote in message:r justan wrote: Both $3.Thanks to Joey and his crew of incompetants.Cheap compared to here. We have Desantis. You don't have any buffer at all between you and those incompetants in Washington. California likes to punish poor people. Those who can't afford an electric car. Gas was $2.959 today, it has been $2.799 or $2.759 at Speedway. === The price of crude is up because increases in demand are outpacing increases in supply. When refineries pay more for their feed-stock, the price of their production follows right along. Planes are flying again and people are driving a lot more. I don’t really believe that is the cause. There is a tremendous backlog of crude. I understand they had to slow down pumping as there was no storage availability. I think it is a truer indicator of inflation than what the Fed is stating. === It's true that the price of energy flows through the economy and eventually affects the price of everything, similar to what happened in the 1970s and 80s. If demand continues to outpace supply, oil will continue to rise in price until either demand decreases or supply increases. I am still hung up on the push for fully electric vehicles. Back when the "peak oil" theory was popular many experts claimed we would very soon run out of oil. Turns out that wasn't true. The world has an abundance of oil. The new focus is on how "clean" it is. The effects on global warming due to burning fossil fuels are categorized as being "front end" and "back end". Electric vehicles are "back end" meaning they don't contribute negatively to the climate as they use the stored energy in their batteries. But the "front end" effects are still there because fossil fuels still are the dominant source of energy (89 percent) that generates the power used to charge the electric vehicle batteries. Until that changes, increased use of electric vehicles will actually have more of a negative effect than gas/diesel powered vehicles overall. This may improve if more sources such as wind, solar, geothermal, etc. sources are developed however it's going to take a *lot* of it to equal the fossil fuel energy used by gas and diesel powered vehicles. The demand may be outpaced by the number of electric vehicles in use, especially if they are mandated by governments too soon. Sources of "clean" electric generation *must* be developed simultaneously with the increasing emphasis on electric vehicles. Then, there is the problem of overloading an outdated electric distribution grid as it is required to supply power equal to that currently being used by fossil fuel powered vehicles in addition to that currently used for other purposes. That amount of power must be gigantic. You are not speaking the party line! -- Freedom Isn't Free! === What party line is that? You may have forgotten but I'm a man without a party since I'm disgusted with both Republicans and Democrats in more or less equal measure. I do own a fair number of energy stocks however since I regard them as both a good investment and a partial hedge against inflation. The new green deal liberal party line. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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