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https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-non-vindication-11613342554

While short of the 67 votes needed to convict, most Republicans didn’t
defend Mr. Trump’s words or actions on Jan. 6 or his attempts to
overturn the election. As we’ve written before, Mr. Trump’s behavior
was inexcusable and will mar his legacy for all time.

That was the essence of Sen. Mitch McConnell’s post-trial remarks. The
GOP leader voted against conviction but explicitly because he said the
Constitution reserves the impeachment power only for Presidents while
in office. Scholars disagree on this point, and there are good
arguments on both sides. Mr. McConnell leaned on the writing of the
19th-century Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story. But he also noted
that impeaching a private citizen had no “limiting principle,” and
could set a dangerous precedent.
..
..
..
Mr. McConnell was lacerating in his criticism of Mr. Trump’s words and
actions, which he blamed for deceiving and motivating supporters who
had assembled on Jan. 6 at the President’s urging and became a mob.
“Former President Trump’s actions that preceded the riot were a
disgraceful, disgraceful dereliction of duty,” Mr. McConnell said.
“There’s no question—none—that President Trump is practically and
morally responsible for provoking the events of the day.”

He added that the rioters had been “fed wild falsehoods by the most
powerful man on Earth–because he was angry he’d lost an election.”

All of this was compounded by Mr. Trump’s failure to act with dispatch
to call off the rioters once he heard what was happening.



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Wayne B Wrote in message:r
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-non-vindication-11613342554While short of the 67 votes needed to convict, most Republicans didn’tdefend Mr. Trump’s words or actions on Jan. 6 or his attempts tooverturn the election. As we’ve written before, Mr. Trump’s behaviorwas inexcusable and will mar his legacy for all time.That was the essence of Sen. Mitch McConnell’s post-trial remarks. TheGOP leader voted against conviction but explicitly because he said theConstitution reserves the impeachment power only for Presidents whilein office. Scholars disagree on this point, and there are goodarguments on both sides. Mr. McConnell leaned on the writing of the19th-century Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story. But he also notedthat impeaching a private citizen had no “limiting principle,” andcould set a dangerous precedent....Mr. McConnell was lacerating in his criticism of Mr. Trump’s words andactions, which he blamed for deceiving and motivating supporters whohad assembled on Jan. 6 at the President’s urging and became a mob.“Former President Trump’s actions that preceded the riot were adisgraceful, disgraceful dereliction of duty,” Mr. McConnell said.“There’s no question—none—that President Trump is practically andmorally responsible for provoking the events of the day.”He added that the rioters had been “fed wild falsehoods by the mostpowerful man on Earth–because he was angry he’d lost an election.”All of this was compounded by Mr. Trump’s failure to act with dispatchto call off the rioters once he heard what was happening.


Wayne Wayne Wayne...Trump had no control over the many factions
which comprised that sea of souls at the Capital. I'll be in your
neighborhood soon but I'm not sure I could have a civil
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On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:32:38 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Wayne B Wrote in message:r
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-non-vindication-11613342554While short of the 67 votes needed to convict, most Republicans didn’tdefend Mr. Trump’s words or actions on Jan. 6 or his attempts tooverturn the election. As we’ve written before, Mr. Trump’s behaviorwas inexcusable and will mar his legacy for all time.That was the essence of Sen. Mitch McConnell’s post-trial remarks. TheGOP leader voted against conviction but explicitly because he said theConstitution reserves the impeachment power only for Presidents whilein office. Scholars disagree on this point, and there are goodarguments on both sides. Mr. McConnell leaned on the writing of the19th-century Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story. But he also notedthat impeaching a private citizen had no “limiting principle,” andcould set a dangerous precedent....Mr. McConnell was lacerating in his criticism of Mr. Trump’s words andactions, which he blamed for deceiving and motivating supporters whohad assembled on Jan. 6 at the

President’s urging and became a mob.“Former President Trump’s actions that preceded the riot were adisgraceful, disgraceful dereliction of duty,” Mr. McConnell said.“There’s no question—none—that President Trump is practically andmorally responsible for provoking the events of the day.”He added that the rioters had been “fed wild falsehoods by the mostpowerful man on Earth–because he was angry he’d lost an election.”All of this was compounded by Mr. Trump’s failure to act with dispatchto call off the rioters once he heard what was happening.

Wayne Wayne Wayne...Trump had no control over the many factions
which comprised that sea of souls at the Capital. I'll be in your
neighborhood soon but I'm not sure I could have a civil
conversation with you while you are under this spell.


===

We'd no doubt have to agree not to talk politics. :-)

I'm capable if you are. Weather here is near perfect right now, and
we could probably round up Greg for a beer or lunch with a little
advance notice.
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On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 12:32:40 UTC-4, justan wrote:
Wayne B Wrote in message:r
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-non-vindication-11613342554While short of the 67 votes needed to convict, most Republicans didn’tdefend Mr. Trump’s words or actions on Jan. 6 or his attempts tooverturn the election. As we’ve written before, Mr. Trump’s behaviorwas inexcusable and will mar his legacy for all time.That was the essence of Sen. Mitch McConnell’s post-trial remarks. TheGOP leader voted against conviction but explicitly because he said theConstitution reserves the impeachment power only for Presidents whilein office. Scholars disagree on this point, and there are goodarguments on both sides. Mr. McConnell leaned on the writing of the19th-century Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story. But he also notedthat impeaching a private citizen had no “limiting principle,” andcould set a dangerous precedent....Mr. McConnell was lacerating in his criticism of Mr. Trump’s words andactions, which he blamed for deceiving and motivating supporters whohad assembled on Jan. 6 at the President’s urging and became a mob.“Former President Trump’s actions that preceded the riot were adisgraceful, disgraceful dereliction of duty,” Mr. McConnell said.“There’s no question—none—that President Trump is practically andmorally responsible for provoking the events of the day.”He added that the rioters had been “fed wild falsehoods by the mostpowerful man on Earth–because he was angry he’d lost an election.”All of this was compounded by Mr. Trump’s failure to act with dispatchto call off the rioters once he heard what was happening.


Wayne Wayne Wayne...Trump had no control over the many factions
which comprised that sea of souls at the Capital. I'll be in your
neighborhood soon but I'm not sure I could have a civil
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Wow...sounds like that would be a major loss to Wayne...SNERK!
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On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:10:09 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-non-vindication-11613342554

While short of the 67 votes needed to convict, most Republicans didn’t
defend Mr. Trump’s words or actions on Jan. 6 or his attempts to
overturn the election. As we’ve written before, Mr. Trump’s behavior
was inexcusable and will mar his legacy for all time.

That was the essence of Sen. Mitch McConnell’s post-trial remarks. The
GOP leader voted against conviction but explicitly because he said the
Constitution reserves the impeachment power only for Presidents while
in office. Scholars disagree on this point, and there are good
arguments on both sides. Mr. McConnell leaned on the writing of the
19th-century Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story. But he also noted
that impeaching a private citizen had no “limiting principle,” and
could set a dangerous precedent.
.
.
.
Mr. McConnell was lacerating in his criticism of Mr. Trump’s words and
actions, which he blamed for deceiving and motivating supporters who
had assembled on Jan. 6 at the President’s urging and became a mob.
“Former President Trump’s actions that preceded the riot were a
disgraceful, disgraceful dereliction of duty,” Mr. McConnell said.
“There’s no question—none—that President Trump is practically and
morally responsible for provoking the events of the day.”

He added that the rioters had been “fed wild falsehoods by the most
powerful man on Earth–because he was angry he’d lost an election.”

All of this was compounded by Mr. Trump’s failure to act with dispatch
to call off the rioters once he heard what was happening.



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On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:10:09 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-non-vindication-11613342554

While short of the 67 votes needed to convict, most Republicans didn’t
defend Mr. Trump’s words or actions on Jan. 6 or his attempts to
overturn the election. As we’ve written before, Mr. Trump’s behavior
was inexcusable and will mar his legacy for all time.

That was the essence of Sen. Mitch McConnell’s post-trial remarks. The
GOP leader voted against conviction but explicitly because he said the
Constitution reserves the impeachment power only for Presidents while
in office. Scholars disagree on this point, and there are good
arguments on both sides. Mr. McConnell leaned on the writing of the
19th-century Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story. But he also noted
that impeaching a private citizen had no “limiting principle,” and
could set a dangerous precedent.
.
.
.
Mr. McConnell was lacerating in his criticism of Mr. Trump’s words and
actions, which he blamed for deceiving and motivating supporters who
had assembled on Jan. 6 at the President’s urging and became a mob.
“Former President Trump’s actions that preceded the riot were a
disgraceful, disgraceful dereliction of duty,” Mr. McConnell said.
“There’s no question—none—that President Trump is practically and
morally responsible for provoking the events of the day.”

He added that the rioters had been “fed wild falsehoods by the most
powerful man on Earth–because he was angry he’d lost an election.”

All of this was compounded by Mr. Trump’s failure to act with dispatch
to call off the rioters once he heard what was happening.


Mitch said what I have been saying all along. If they think they have
a criminal case, bring it in federal court and let Trump face justice,
good or bad, not a political witch hunt.
Since then I am hearing people say you don't need a crime to impeach.
If so, why does article II say

Section 4. The president, vice president and all civil officers of the
United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and
conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and
misdemeanors.

Then the quibble words really start to flow.
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On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:47:06 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:32:38 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Wayne B Wrote in message:r
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-non-vindication-11613342554While short of the 67 votes needed to convict, most Republicans didn’tdefend Mr. Trump’s words or actions on Jan. 6 or his attempts tooverturn the election. As we’ve written before, Mr. Trump’s behaviorwas inexcusable and will mar his legacy for all time.That was

the essence of Sen. Mitch McConnell’s post-trial remarks. TheGOP leader voted against conviction but explicitly because he said theConstitution reserves the impeachment power only for Presidents whilein office. Scholars disagree on this point, and there are goodarguments on both sides. Mr. McConnell leaned on the writing of
the19th-century Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story. But he also notedthat impeaching a private citizen had no “limiting principle,” andcould set a dangerous precedent....Mr. McConnell was lacerating in his criticism of Mr. Trump’s words andactions, which he blamed for deceiving and motivating supporters whohad assembled on Jan. 6
at the
President’s urging and became a mob.“Former President Trump’s actions that preceded the riot were adisgraceful, disgraceful dereliction of duty,” Mr. McConnell said.“There’s no question—none—that President Trump is practically andmorally responsible for provoking the events of the day.”He added that the rioters had been “fed wild

falsehoods by the mostpowerful man on Earth–because he was angry he’d lost an election.”All of this was compounded by Mr. Trump’s failure to act with dispatchto call off the rioters once he heard what was happening.

Wayne Wayne Wayne...Trump had no control over the many factions
which comprised that sea of souls at the Capital. I'll be in your
neighborhood soon but I'm not sure I could have a civil
conversation with you while you are under this spell.


===

We'd no doubt have to agree not to talk politics. :-)

I'm capable if you are. Weather here is near perfect right now, and
we could probably round up Greg for a beer or lunch with a little
advance notice.


Sure I would like to get out of the house or you folks could meet up
here, sort of neutral ground, since I am a Loonytarian who didn't vote
for either of them.
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On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:47:06 -0500, Wayne wrote:On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:32:38 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:Wayne B Wrote in message:r https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-non-vindication-11613342554While short of the 67 votes needed to convict, most Republicans didn?tdefend Mr. Trump?s words or actions on Jan. 6 or his attempts tooverturn the election. As we?ve written before, Mr. Trump?s behaviorwas inexcusable and will mar his legacy for all time.That wasthe essence of Sen. Mitch McConnell?s post-trial remarks. TheGOP leader voted against conviction but explicitly because he said theConstitution reserves the impeachment power only for Presidents whilein office. Scholars disagree on this point, and there are goodarguments on both sides. Mr. McConnell leaned on the writing ofthe19th-century Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story. But he also notedthat impeaching a private citizen had no ?limiting principle,? andcould set a dangerous precedent....Mr. McConnell was lacerating in his criticism of Mr. Trump?s words andactions, which he blamed for deceiving and motivating supporters whohad assembled on Jan. 6at thePresident?s urging and became a mob.?Former President Trump?s actions that preceded the riot were adisgraceful, disgraceful dereliction of duty,? Mr. McConnell said.?There?s no question?none?that President Trump is practically andmorally responsible for provoking the events of the day.?He added that the rioters had been ?fed wildfalsehoods by the mostpowerful man on Earth?because he was angry he?d lost an election.?All of this was compounded by Mr. Trump?s failure to act with dispatchto call off the rioters once he heard what was happening. Wayne Wayne Wayne...Trump had no control over the many factions which comprised that sea of souls at the Capital. I'll be in your neighborhood soon but I'm not sure I could have a civil conversation with you while you are under this spell.===We'd no doubt have to agree not to talk politics. :-)I'm capable if you are. Weather here is near perfect right now, andwe could probably round up Greg for a beer or lunch with a littleadvance notice.Sure I would like to get out of the house or you folks could meet uphere, sort of neutral ground, since I am a Loonytarian who didn't votefor either of them.


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On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 20:05:56 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Wrote in message:r
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:47:06 -0500, Wayne wrote:On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:32:38 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:Wayne B Wrote in message:r https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-non-vindication-11613342554While short of the 67 votes needed to convict, most Republicans didn?tdefend Mr. Trump?s words or actions on Jan. 6 or his attempts tooverturn the election. As we?ve written before, Mr. Trump?s behaviorwas inexcusable and will mar his legacy for all time.That wasthe essence of Sen. Mitch McConnell?s post-trial remarks. TheGOP leader voted against conviction but explicitly because he said theConstitution reserves the impeachment power only for Presidents whilein office. Scholars disagree on this point, and there are goodarguments on both sides. Mr. McConnell leaned on the writing ofthe19th-century Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story. But he also notedthat impeaching a private citizen had no ?limiting

principle,? andcould set a dangerous precedent....Mr. McConnell was lacerating in his criticism of Mr. Trump?s words andactions, which he blamed for deceiving and motivating supporters whohad assembled on Jan. 6at thePresident?s urging and became a mob.?Former President Trump?s actions that preceded the riot were adisgraceful, disgraceful dereliction of duty,? Mr. McConnell said.?There?s no question?none?that President Trump is practically andmorally responsible for provoking the events of the day.?He added that the rioters had been ?fed wildfalsehoods by the mostpowerful man on Earth?because he was angry he?d lost an election.?All of this was compounded by Mr. Trump?s failure to act with dispatchto call off the rioters once he heard what was happening. Wayne Wayne Wayne...Trump had no control over the many factions which comprised that sea of souls at the Capital. I'll be in your neighborhood soon but I'm not sure I could have a civil conversation with you while you

are
under this spell.===We'd no doubt have to agree not to talk politics. :-)I'm capable if you are. Weather here is near perfect right now, andwe could probably round up Greg for a beer or lunch with a littleadvance notice.Sure I would like to get out of the house or you folks could meet uphere, sort of neutral ground, since I am a Loonytarian who didn't votefor either of them.

i sent you our itinerary.


I am not sure where that is.
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On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 20:05:56 -0500 (EST), justan Wrote in message:r On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:47:06 -0500, Wayne wrote:On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:32:38 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:Wayne B Wrote in message:r https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-non-vindication-11613342554While short of the 67 votes needed to convict, most Republicans didn?tdefend Mr. Trump?s words or actions on Jan. 6 or his attempts tooverturn the election. As we?ve written before, Mr. Trump?s behaviorwas inexcusable and will mar his legacy for all time.That wasthe essence of Sen. Mitch McConnell?s post-trial remarks. TheGOP leader voted against conviction but explicitly because he said theConstitution reserves the impeachment power only for Presidents whilein office. Scholars disagree on this point, and there are goodarguments on both sides. Mr. McConnell leaned on the writing ofthe19th-century Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story. But he also notedthat impeaching a private citizen had no ?limitingprinciple,? andcould set a dangerous precedent....Mr. McConnell was lacerating in his criticism of Mr. Trump?s words andactions, which he blamed for deceiving and motivating supporters whohad assembled on Jan. 6at thePresident?s urging and became a mob.?Former President Trump?s actions that preceded the riot were adisgraceful, disgraceful dereliction of duty,? Mr. McConnell said.?There?s no question?none?that President Trump is practically andmorally responsible for provoking the events of the day.?He added that the rioters had been ?fed wildfalsehoods by the mostpowerful man on Earth?because he was angry he?d lost an election.?All of this was compounded by Mr. Trump?s failure to act with dispatchto call off the rioters once he heard what was happening. Wayne Wayne Wayne...Trump had no control over the many factions which comprised that sea of souls at the Capital. I'll be in your neighborhood soon but I'm not sure I could have a civil conversation with you while youareunder this spell.===We'd no doubt have to agree not to talk politics. :-)I'm capable if you are. Weather here is near perfect right now, andwe could probably round up Greg for a beer or lunch with a littleadvance notice.Sure I would like to get out of the house or you folks could meet uphere, sort of neutral ground, since I am a Loonytarian who didn't votefor either of them.i sent you our itinerary. I am not sure where that is.


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