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Wayne B February 16th 21 12:52 PM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.

True North[_2_] February 16th 21 01:13 PM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.



Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved.

Wayne B February 16th 21 03:15 PM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.



Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved.


===

The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.

Keyser Söze[_3_] February 16th 21 03:29 PM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
On 2/16/21 10:15 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.



Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved.


===

The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.


From Newsweek:

A new report highlights the hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths
in the U.S. under former President Donald Trump, noting that some 40
percent of COVID-19 pandemic deaths in 2020 would have been averted if
America's mortality rate was equivalent to other wealthy peer nations.

The report—published Thursday in one of the world's oldest and
best-known medical journals The Lancet—explains that even before the
pandemic, the U.S. saw 461,000 unnecessary deaths in 2018 when compared
to the death rates in other G7 nations (Canada, France, Germany, Italy,
Japan and the United Kingdom). Comparing the U.S. COVID-19 mortality
rate to this peer group, the U.S. would have seen 40 percent fewer
deaths in 2020 if its mortality rate was comparable.

"The global COVID-19 pandemic has had a disproportionate effect on the
USA, with more than 26 million diagnosed cases and over 450000 deaths as
of early February, 2021, about 40% of which could have been averted had
the U.S. death rate mirrored the weighted average of the other G7
nations," the report explains.

"Many of the cases and deaths were avoidable. Instead of galvanizing the
US populace to fight the pandemic, President Trump publicly dismissed
its threat (despite privately acknowledging it), discouraged action as
infection spread, and eschewed international cooperation," it continues.

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[email protected] February 16th 21 04:05 PM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:15:48 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.



Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved.

===

The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.


Wasn't that the same time Fauci was saying that the US had nothing to worry about? :)

Wayne B February 16th 21 04:12 PM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:05:51 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:15:48 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.


Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved.

===

The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.


Wasn't that the same time Fauci was saying that the US had nothing to worry about? :)


===

Do you have a cite for that? I don't remember it.

[email protected] February 16th 21 04:22 PM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 07:52:02 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:


https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.



I saw an interesting stat this morning. They compared California that
is locked down to Florida that is pretty much letn'r rip and
California is doing worse per capita in all metrics. (Infections,
deaths, hospitalizations etc). I bet we also have more tourist and
snowbird influx too. That is pointed out by us being #1 in the UK
variant from the limeys who come here to dodge their winter weather
and restrictions. The hot spots in the midwest sent their people here
along with an unprecedented number of New York/Jersey folks.
I have been here 36 years and I have never seen this many NY tags on
this coast before. I suspect they came over last year when Broward
locked down and decided they liked it here

[email protected] February 16th 21 04:24 PM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.



Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved.


Show me one thing Biden has changed.
Don't bother with the adult leader thing. He hasn't really done ****.
The democrats were too busy with their quixotic quest to have another
loss in the Senate.

justan February 16th 21 04:51 PM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
True North Wrote in message:r
On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote: https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported deaths declined sharply from a recent spike. There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved.


Right Theres no tellin. Go back under your rock.
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justan February 16th 21 05:01 PM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
Wrote in message:r
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 07:52:02 -0500, Wayne wrote:https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10pointNewly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest levelin nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reporteddeaths declined sharply from a recent spike.There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, accordingto data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a dayearlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was publishedearly Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.I saw an interesting stat this morning. They compared California thatis locked down to Florida that is pretty much letn'r rip andCalifornia is doing worse per capita in all metrics. (Infections,deaths, hospitalizations etc). I bet we also have more tourist andsnowbird influx too. That is pointed out by us being #1 in the UKvariant from the limeys who come here to dodge their winter weatherand restrictions. The hot spots in the midwest sent their people herealong with an unprecedented number of New York/Jersey folks. I have been here 36 years and I have never seen this many NY tags onthis coast before. I suspect they came over last year when Browardlocked down and decided they liked it here


Dont be too harsh on the New Yorkers. Their attitudes might change
once they realize they are free from tyrrany of Cuomo and
ilk.
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Mr Robot February 16th 21 07:14 PM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
Except, you stupid ****, the Democrats won the Senate. What a dump
****.

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:24:28 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.



Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved.


Show me one thing Biden has changed.
Don't bother with the adult leader thing. He hasn't really done ****.
The democrats were too busy with their quixotic quest to have another
loss in the Senate.


[email protected] February 16th 21 07:26 PM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 11:12:40 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:05:51 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:15:48 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.


Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved.
===

The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.


Wasn't that the same time Fauci was saying that the US had nothing to worry about? :)

===

Do you have a cite for that? I don't remember it.


"On Jan. 21 - the day the first COVID-19 case in the U.S. was confirmed - Fauci appeared on conservative Newsmax TV. “Bottom line, we don’t have to worry about this one, right?” asked Greg Kelly, the host.

Fauci said, “Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the kind of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.”


Wayne B February 16th 21 09:31 PM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:26:50 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 11:12:40 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:05:51 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:15:48 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.


Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved.
===

The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.

Wasn't that the same time Fauci was saying that the US had nothing to worry about? :)

===

Do you have a cite for that? I don't remember it.


"On Jan. 21 - the day the first COVID-19 case in the U.S. was confirmed - Fauci appeared on conservative Newsmax TV. Bottom line, we dont have to worry about this one, right? asked Greg Kelly, the host.

Fauci said, Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the kind of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.


===

Parsing his words, it seems like there's a bit of governmental double
speak going on. And of course it was still early in the epidemic
before people started dropping like flies in the north east.

John[_6_] February 16th 21 10:00 PM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 10:15:42 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.



Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved.


===

The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.


Imagine where we'd be without his vaccine though, eh Wayne?
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John[_6_] February 16th 21 10:11 PM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 10:29:00 -0500, Keyser Sze
wrote:

On 2/16/21 10:15 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.


Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved.


===

The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.


From Newsweek:

A new report highlights the hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths
in the U.S. under former President Donald Trump, noting that some 40
percent of COVID-19 pandemic deaths in 2020 would have been averted if
America's mortality rate was equivalent to other wealthy peer nations.

The reportpublished Thursday in one of the world's oldest and
best-known medical journals The Lancetexplains that even before the
pandemic, the U.S. saw 461,000 unnecessary deaths in 2018 when compared
to the death rates in other G7 nations (Canada, France, Germany, Italy,
Japan and the United Kingdom). Comparing the U.S. COVID-19 mortality
rate to this peer group, the U.S. would have seen 40 percent fewer
deaths in 2020 if its mortality rate was comparable.

"The global COVID-19 pandemic has had a disproportionate effect on the
USA, with more than 26 million diagnosed cases and over 450000 deaths as
of early February, 2021, about 40% of which could have been averted had
the U.S. death rate mirrored the weighted average of the other G7
nations," the report explains.

"Many of the cases and deaths were avoidable. Instead of galvanizing the
US populace to fight the pandemic, President Trump publicly dismissed
its threat (despite privately acknowledging it), discouraged action as
infection spread, and eschewed international cooperation," it continues.


Here's where we fall. Cherry-picking a few countries would make us look pretty
damn good.

'Weighted Average'? Show me.
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John[_6_] February 16th 21 10:12 PM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:12:34 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:05:51 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:15:48 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.


Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved.
===

The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.


Wasn't that the same time Fauci was saying that the US had nothing to worry about? :)


===

Do you have a cite for that? I don't remember it.


Perhaps you can explain the 'weighted average' in Harry's post.
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[email protected] February 16th 21 10:20 PM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 4:31:47 PM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:26:50 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 11:12:40 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:05:51 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:15:48 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.


Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved.
===

The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.

Wasn't that the same time Fauci was saying that the US had nothing to worry about? :)
===

Do you have a cite for that? I don't remember it.


"On Jan. 21 - the day the first COVID-19 case in the U.S. was confirmed - Fauci appeared on conservative Newsmax TV. “Bottom line, we don’t have to worry about this one, right?” asked Greg Kelly, the host.

Fauci said, “Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the kind of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.”

===

Parsing his words, it seems like there's a bit of governmental double
speak going on. And of course it was still early in the epidemic
before people started dropping like flies in the north east.


So you want to parse Fauci's words, but take Trump's literally? Fauci said: "But this is not a major threat
to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right
now should be worried about." Pretty damn clear to me. If Trump said that you'd be calling for his head.
Oh wait, you are. :) The difference in how you interpret is called bias.

I agree with the double-speak. Fauci was never a "real" doctor that treated patients. After his residency,
he went on to research then to heads of departments and being a figurehead. In other words, a politician.

Not saying he's not smart, but his smartness has moved from being a scientist to being a "chief" of an
organization that is very good at dodging bullets and hanging on to his lucrative political job.

[email protected] February 16th 21 11:01 PM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 10:29:00 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/16/21 10:15 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.


Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved.


===

The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.


From Newsweek:

A new report highlights the hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths
in the U.S. under former President Donald Trump, noting that some 40
percent of COVID-19 pandemic deaths in 2020 would have been averted if
America's mortality rate was equivalent to other wealthy peer nations.

The report—published Thursday in one of the world's oldest and
best-known medical journals The Lancet—explains that even before the
pandemic, the U.S. saw 461,000 unnecessary deaths in 2018 when compared
to the death rates in other G7 nations (Canada, France, Germany, Italy,
Japan and the United Kingdom). Comparing the U.S. COVID-19 mortality
rate to this peer group, the U.S. would have seen 40 percent fewer
deaths in 2020 if its mortality rate was comparable.

"The global COVID-19 pandemic has had a disproportionate effect on the
USA, with more than 26 million diagnosed cases and over 450000 deaths as
of early February, 2021, about 40% of which could have been averted had
the U.S. death rate mirrored the weighted average of the other G7
nations," the report explains.

"Many of the cases and deaths were avoidable. Instead of galvanizing the
US populace to fight the pandemic, President Trump publicly dismissed
its threat (despite privately acknowledging it), discouraged action as
infection spread, and eschewed international cooperation," it continues.


Great opinion piece if you don't let facts get in the way. The US is
#8 behind several European countries, including UK (#3). In regard to
the "peer" countries, we have none. There is no comparable country to
the US that has a tradition of free travel, a independent citizenry
and a very loose border, particularly at our airports. Any effort to
clamp down on them creates a tremendous outcry from the public. The
idea that you can seal off states is even more ludicrous. For example,
there are more roads crossing the Florida border than state cops on
any given shift. That doesn't address planes, trains and boats.
Quarantine is also totally impractical. More people fly into New
York's 4 major airports from abroad in one day than every hotel room
in the 5 burroughs and you would have to keep them 2 weeks while the
same number of people show up the next day. Then there is the "****
you" attitude Americans have.

You can't even say the only offenders are Republicans. Plenty of
prominent democrats including Chuck and Nancy have been caught
breaking the same rules they say we should be following.

[email protected] February 16th 21 11:05 PM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:05:51 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:15:48 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.


Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved.

===

The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.


Wasn't that the same time Fauci was saying that the US had nothing to worry about? :)


You can find a quote from Fauci saying just about anything.
Guys like Harry apologize for him and use words like "things change"
but didn't Fauci anticipate that before he got on TV and said
something stupid like "the general population doesn't need a mask",
"no wait, you should wear a mask", "no wait wear two".




[email protected] February 16th 21 11:07 PM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:12:34 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:05:51 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:15:48 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.


Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved.
===

The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.


Wasn't that the same time Fauci was saying that the US had nothing to worry about? :)


===

Do you have a cite for that? I don't remember it.


He did say this was not going to be a serious problem for 80% of the
people and they would cure themselves spontaneously. I may still have
that on my TiVo.

[email protected] February 16th 21 11:10 PM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 12:01:55 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Wrote in message:r
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 07:52:02 -0500, Wayne wrote:https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10pointNewly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest levelin nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reporteddeaths declined sharply from a recent spike.There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, accordingto data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a dayearlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was publishedearly Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.I saw an interesting stat this morning. They compared California thatis locked down to Florida that is pretty much letn'r rip andCalifornia is doing worse per capita in all metrics. (Infections,deaths, hospitalizations etc). I bet we also have more tourist andsnowbird influx too. That is pointed out by us being #1 in the UKvariant from the limeys who come here to dodge their winter

weatherand restrictions. The hot spots in the midwest sent their people herealong with an unprecedented number of New York/Jersey folks. I have been here 36 years and I have never seen this many NY tags onthis coast before. I suspect they came over last year when Browardlocked down and decided they liked it here

Dont be too harsh on the New Yorkers. Their attitudes might change
once they realize they are free from tyrrany of Cuomo and
ilk.


They still want to tell us how much better things were back in New
York and why can't we do things like they did up north.
I remind them, I-95 still has a northbound lane.

Happiness is watching a Canadian going home with a New Yorker under
each arm.

True North[_2_] February 17th 21 01:03 AM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 19:10:24 UTC-4, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 12:01:55 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Wrote in message:r
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 07:52:02 -0500, Wayne wrote:https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10pointNewly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest levelin nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reporteddeaths declined sharply from a recent spike.There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, accordingto data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a dayearlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was publishedearly Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.I saw an interesting stat this morning. They compared California thatis locked down to Florida that is pretty much letn'r rip andCalifornia is doing worse per capita in all metrics. (Infections,deaths, hospitalizations etc). I bet we also have more tourist andsnowbird influx too. That is pointed out by us being #1 in the UKvariant from the limeys who come here to dodge their winter

weatherand restrictions. The hot spots in the midwest sent their people herealong with an unprecedented number of New York/Jersey folks. I have been here 36 years and I have never seen this many NY tags onthis coast before.. I suspect they came over last year when Browardlocked down and decided they liked it here

Dont be too harsh on the New Yorkers. Their attitudes might change
once they realize they are free from tyrrany of Cuomo and
ilk.

They still want to tell us how much better things were back in New
York and why can't we do things like they did up north.
I remind them, I-95 still has a northbound lane.

Happiness is watching a Canadian going home with a New Yorker under
each arm.



Just where would Florida be without the tourist trade?
You'd by crying about sky high taxes with even fewer services. Oh wait...y'all could pick oranges.

John[_6_] February 17th 21 01:04 AM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 16:31:41 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:26:50 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 11:12:40 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:05:51 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:15:48 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.


Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved.
===

The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.

Wasn't that the same time Fauci was saying that the US had nothing to worry about? :)
===

Do you have a cite for that? I don't remember it.


"On Jan. 21 - the day the first COVID-19 case in the U.S. was confirmed - Fauci appeared on conservative Newsmax TV. Bottom line, we dont have to worry about this one, right? asked Greg Kelly, the host.

Fauci said, Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the kind of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.


===

Parsing his words, it seems like there's a bit of governmental double
speak going on. And of course it was still early in the epidemic
before people started dropping like flies in the north east.


Does Trump get your same consideration?

Hee, hee.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!

John[_6_] February 17th 21 01:06 AM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 14:20:55 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 4:31:47 PM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:26:50 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 11:12:40 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:05:51 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:15:48 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.


Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved.
===

The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.

Wasn't that the same time Fauci was saying that the US had nothing to worry about? :)
===

Do you have a cite for that? I don't remember it.

"On Jan. 21 - the day the first COVID-19 case in the U.S. was confirmed - Fauci appeared on conservative Newsmax TV. Bottom line, we dont have to worry about this one, right? asked Greg Kelly, the host.

Fauci said, Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the kind of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.

===

Parsing his words, it seems like there's a bit of governmental double
speak going on. And of course it was still early in the epidemic
before people started dropping like flies in the north east.


So you want to parse Fauci's words, but take Trump's literally? Fauci said: "But this is not a major threat
to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right
now should be worried about." Pretty damn clear to me. If Trump said that you'd be calling for his head.
Oh wait, you are. :) The difference in how you interpret is called bias.

I agree with the double-speak. Fauci was never a "real" doctor that treated patients. After his residency,
he went on to research then to heads of departments and being a figurehead. In other words, a politician.

Not saying he's not smart, but his smartness has moved from being a scientist to being a "chief" of an
organization that is very good at dodging bullets and hanging on to his lucrative political job.


Well done!
--

Freedom Isn't Free!

John[_6_] February 17th 21 01:09 AM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 17:11:56 -0500, John wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 10:29:00 -0500, Keyser Sze
wrote:

On 2/16/21 10:15 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.


Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved.

===

The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.


From Newsweek:

A new report highlights the hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths
in the U.S. under former President Donald Trump, noting that some 40
percent of COVID-19 pandemic deaths in 2020 would have been averted if
America's mortality rate was equivalent to other wealthy peer nations.

The reportpublished Thursday in one of the world's oldest and
best-known medical journals The Lancetexplains that even before the
pandemic, the U.S. saw 461,000 unnecessary deaths in 2018 when compared
to the death rates in other G7 nations (Canada, France, Germany, Italy,
Japan and the United Kingdom). Comparing the U.S. COVID-19 mortality
rate to this peer group, the U.S. would have seen 40 percent fewer
deaths in 2020 if its mortality rate was comparable.

"The global COVID-19 pandemic has had a disproportionate effect on the
USA, with more than 26 million diagnosed cases and over 450000 deaths as
of early February, 2021, about 40% of which could have been averted had
the U.S. death rate mirrored the weighted average of the other G7
nations," the report explains.

"Many of the cases and deaths were avoidable. Instead of galvanizing the
US populace to fight the pandemic, President Trump publicly dismissed
its threat (despite privately acknowledging it), discouraged action as
infection spread, and eschewed international cooperation," it continues.


Here's where we fall. Cherry-picking a few countries would make us look pretty
damn good.

'Weighted Average'? Show me.


The link:

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...=homeAdvegas1?

Scroll down and then click on Death/1M pop.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!

Wayne B February 17th 21 05:04 AM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 20:04:36 -0500, John wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 16:31:41 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:26:50 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 11:12:40 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:05:51 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:15:48 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.


Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved.
===

The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.

Wasn't that the same time Fauci was saying that the US had nothing to worry about? :)
===

Do you have a cite for that? I don't remember it.

"On Jan. 21 - the day the first COVID-19 case in the U.S. was confirmed - Fauci appeared on conservative Newsmax TV. Bottom line, we dont have to worry about this one, right? asked Greg Kelly, the host.

Fauci said, Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the kind of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.


===

Parsing his words, it seems like there's a bit of governmental double
speak going on. And of course it was still early in the epidemic
before people started dropping like flies in the north east.


Does Trump get your same consideration?

Hee, hee.


===

Hee, hee yourself John. What kind of consideration do you think he
should get? A cell right next to Bernie Madoff would be my
recommendation. They're both con men after all. Bernie got away with
it for a long time but his luck finally ran out. The same thing may
happen with Trump. Stay tuned and pass the popcorn.

[email protected] February 17th 21 05:16 AM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 16:31:41 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:26:50 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 11:12:40 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:05:51 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:15:48 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.


Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved.
===

The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.

Wasn't that the same time Fauci was saying that the US had nothing to worry about? :)
===

Do you have a cite for that? I don't remember it.


"On Jan. 21 - the day the first COVID-19 case in the U.S. was confirmed - Fauci appeared on conservative Newsmax TV. “Bottom line, we don’t have to worry about this one, right?” asked Greg Kelly, the host.

Fauci said, “Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the kind of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be

worried about.”

===

Parsing his words, it seems like there's a bit of governmental double
speak going on. And of course it was still early in the epidemic
before people started dropping like flies in the north east.


He still thought more of the politically correct thing to say than
anything scientific but that is not surprising, he is a political
patronage worker. He serves at the pleasure of the HHS secretary. He
is not a civil service employee.

[email protected] February 17th 21 05:25 AM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 17:03:30 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 19:10:24 UTC-4, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 12:01:55 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Wrote in message:r
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 07:52:02 -0500, Wayne wrote:https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10pointNewly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest levelin nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reporteddeaths declined sharply from a recent spike.There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, accordingto data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a dayearlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was publishedearly Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.I saw an interesting stat this morning. They compared California thatis locked down to Florida that is pretty much letn'r rip andCalifornia is doing worse per capita in all metrics. (Infections,deaths, hospitalizations etc). I bet we also have more tourist andsnowbird influx too. That is pointed out by us being #1 in the UKvariant from the limeys who come here to dodge their winter
weatherand restrictions. The hot spots in the midwest sent their people herealong with an unprecedented number of New York/Jersey folks. I have been here 36 years and I have never seen this many NY tags onthis coast before. I suspect they came over last year when Browardlocked down and decided they liked it here

Dont be too harsh on the New Yorkers. Their attitudes might change
once they realize they are free from tyrrany of Cuomo and
ilk.

They still want to tell us how much better things were back in New
York and why can't we do things like they did up north.
I remind them, I-95 still has a northbound lane.

Happiness is watching a Canadian going home with a New Yorker under
each arm.



Just where would Florida be without the tourist trade?
You'd by crying about sky high taxes with even fewer services. Oh wait...y'all could pick oranges.


We would be serving far fewer people and have a more sustainable
ecosystem. Those pension checks would still be rolling in. If you
don't need as many services, you don't need as many taxes.
40 years ago, most people around here were in agriculture, fishing or
retired and the service industry although much smaller, served those
people. Florida would be a far more liveable state if 10 million
people moved back up north.

[email protected] February 17th 21 05:29 AM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 20:09:12 -0500, John wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 17:11:56 -0500, John wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 10:29:00 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/16/21 10:15 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.


Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved.

===

The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.


From Newsweek:

A new report highlights the hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths
in the U.S. under former President Donald Trump, noting that some 40
percent of COVID-19 pandemic deaths in 2020 would have been averted if
America's mortality rate was equivalent to other wealthy peer nations.

The report—published Thursday in one of the world's oldest and
best-known medical journals The Lancet—explains that even before the
pandemic, the U.S. saw 461,000 unnecessary deaths in 2018 when compared
to the death rates in other G7 nations (Canada, France, Germany, Italy,
Japan and the United Kingdom). Comparing the U.S. COVID-19 mortality
rate to this peer group, the U.S. would have seen 40 percent fewer
deaths in 2020 if its mortality rate was comparable.

"The global COVID-19 pandemic has had a disproportionate effect on the
USA, with more than 26 million diagnosed cases and over 450000 deaths as
of early February, 2021, about 40% of which could have been averted had
the U.S. death rate mirrored the weighted average of the other G7
nations," the report explains.

"Many of the cases and deaths were avoidable. Instead of galvanizing the
US populace to fight the pandemic, President Trump publicly dismissed
its threat (despite privately acknowledging it), discouraged action as
infection spread, and eschewed international cooperation," it continues.


Here's where we fall. Cherry-picking a few countries would make us look pretty
damn good.

'Weighted Average'? Show me.


The link:

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...=homeAdvegas1?

Scroll down and then click on Death/1M pop.


When you compare the absolute number of deaths to a country the size
of Wyoming with the population of Florida the US looks bad but look at
the numbers per 100,000 people

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...n-inhabitants/


Bill[_12_] February 17th 21 07:03 AM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 20:04:36 -0500, John wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 16:31:41 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:26:50 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 11:12:40 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:05:51 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:15:48 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.


Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling
how many lives that may have saved.
===

The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.

Wasn't that the same time Fauci was saying that the US had nothing to worry about? :)
===

Do you have a cite for that? I don't remember it.

"On Jan. 21 - the day the first COVID-19 case in the U.S. was
confirmed - Fauci appeared on conservative Newsmax TV. “Bottom line,
we don’t have to worry about this one, right?” asked Greg Kelly, the host.

Fauci said, “Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the kind
of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and the
Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a major
threat to the people of the United States and this is not something
that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.”

===

Parsing his words, it seems like there's a bit of governmental double
speak going on. And of course it was still early in the epidemic
before people started dropping like flies in the north east.


Does Trump get your same consideration?

Hee, hee.


===

Hee, hee yourself John. What kind of consideration do you think he
should get? A cell right next to Bernie Madoff would be my
recommendation. They're both con men after all. Bernie got away with
it for a long time but his luck finally ran out. The same thing may
happen with Trump. Stay tuned and pass the popcorn.


Well Hillary and Bill seemed to stay out of jail.


Keyser Söze[_3_] February 17th 21 11:33 AM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
On 2/17/21 12:29 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 20:09:12 -0500, John wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 17:11:56 -0500, John wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 10:29:00 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/16/21 10:15 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.


Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved.

===

The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.


From Newsweek:

A new report highlights the hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths
in the U.S. under former President Donald Trump, noting that some 40
percent of COVID-19 pandemic deaths in 2020 would have been averted if
America's mortality rate was equivalent to other wealthy peer nations.

The report—published Thursday in one of the world's oldest and
best-known medical journals The Lancet—explains that even before the
pandemic, the U.S. saw 461,000 unnecessary deaths in 2018 when compared
to the death rates in other G7 nations (Canada, France, Germany, Italy,
Japan and the United Kingdom). Comparing the U.S. COVID-19 mortality
rate to this peer group, the U.S. would have seen 40 percent fewer
deaths in 2020 if its mortality rate was comparable.

"The global COVID-19 pandemic has had a disproportionate effect on the
USA, with more than 26 million diagnosed cases and over 450000 deaths as
of early February, 2021, about 40% of which could have been averted had
the U.S. death rate mirrored the weighted average of the other G7
nations," the report explains.

"Many of the cases and deaths were avoidable. Instead of galvanizing the
US populace to fight the pandemic, President Trump publicly dismissed
its threat (despite privately acknowledging it), discouraged action as
infection spread, and eschewed international cooperation," it continues.

Here's where we fall. Cherry-picking a few countries would make us look pretty
damn good.

'Weighted Average'? Show me.


The link:

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...=homeAdvegas1?

Scroll down and then click on Death/1M pop.


When you compare the absolute number of deaths to a country the size
of Wyoming with the population of Florida the US looks bad but look at
the numbers per 100,000 people

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...n-inhabitants/


Still trying to make Trump look better, eh?

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Keyser Söze[_3_] February 17th 21 11:35 AM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
On 2/17/21 12:16 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 16:31:41 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:26:50 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 11:12:40 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:05:51 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:15:48 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.


Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved.
===

The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.

Wasn't that the same time Fauci was saying that the US had nothing to worry about? :)
===

Do you have a cite for that? I don't remember it.

"On Jan. 21 - the day the first COVID-19 case in the U.S. was confirmed - Fauci appeared on conservative Newsmax TV. “Bottom line, we don’t have to worry about this one, right?” asked Greg Kelly, the host.

Fauci said, “Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the kind of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be

worried about.”

===

Parsing his words, it seems like there's a bit of governmental double
speak going on. And of course it was still early in the epidemic
before people started dropping like flies in the north east.


He still thought more of the politically correct thing to say than
anything scientific but that is not surprising, he is a political
patronage worker. He serves at the pleasure of the HHS secretary. He
is not a civil service employee.

And you don't respect civil service workers, either, right?

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Keyser Söze[_3_] February 17th 21 12:13 PM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
On 2/17/21 6:35 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/17/21 12:16 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 16:31:41 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:26:50 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 11:12:40 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:05:51 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:15:48 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point


Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest
level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily
reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday,
according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938
a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the
morning.


Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No
telling how many lives that may have saved.
===

The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still
denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.

Wasn't that the same time Fauci was saying that the US had nothing
to worry about? :)
===

Do you have a cite for that? I don't remember it.

"On Jan. 21 - the day the first COVID-19 case in the U.S. was
confirmed - Fauci appeared on conservative Newsmax TV. “Bottom line,
we don’t have to worry about this one, right?” asked Greg Kelly, the
host.

Fauci said, “Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the
kind of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and
the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a
major threat to the people of the United States and this is not
something that the citizens of the United States right now should be

worried about.”

===

Parsing his words, it seems like there's a bit of governmental double
speak going on.* And of course it was still early in the epidemic
before people started dropping like flies in the north east.


He still thought more of the politically correct thing to say than
anything scientific but that is not surprising, he is a political
patronage worker. He serves at the pleasure of the HHS secretary. He
is not a civil service employee.

And you don't respect civil service workers, either, right?


Oh, let's not forget that info on COVID and the vaccines is a moving
target. An actual scientist takes into account information at hand and
then adjusts it if the info at hand changes. Obviously, our knowledge of
COVID and Fauci's knowledge of it has evolved with time.

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justan February 17th 21 01:21 PM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
Keyser Sze Wrote in message:r
On 2/17/21 12:29 AM, wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 20:09:12 -0500, John wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 17:11:56 -0500, John wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 10:29:00 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote: On 2/16/21 10:15 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote: https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported deaths declined sharply from a recent spike. There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning. Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved. === The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to his incumbency which he was acutely aware of. From Newsweek: A new report highlights the hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths in the U.S. under former President Donald Trump, noting that some 40 percent of COVID-19 pandemic deaths in 2020 would have been averted if America's mortality rate was equivalent to other wealthy peer nations. The report?published Thursday in one of the world's oldest and best-known medical journals The Lancet?explains that even before the pandemic, the U.S. saw 461,000 unnecessary deaths in 2018 when compared to the death rates in other G7 nations (Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan and the United Kingdom). Comparing the U.S. COVID-19 mortality rate to this peer group, the U.S. would have seen 40 percent fewer deaths in 2020 if its mortality rate was comparable. "The global COVID-19 pandemic has had a disproportionate effect on the USA, with more than 26 million diagnosed cases and over 450000 deaths as of early February, 2021, about 40% of which could have been averted had the U.S. death rate mirrored the weighted average of the other G7 nations," the report explains. "Many of the cases and deaths were avoidable. Instead of galvanizing the US populace to fight the pandemic, President Trump publicly dismissed its threat (despite privately acknowledging it), discouraged action as infection spread, and eschewed international cooperation," it continues. Here's where we fall. Cherry-picking a few countries would make us look pretty damn good. 'Weighted Average'? Show me. The link: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?utm_campaign=homeAdvegas1? Scroll down and then click on Death/1M pop. When you compare the absolute number of deaths to a country the size of Wyoming with the population of Florida the US looks bad but look at the numbers per 100,000 people https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/ Still trying to make Trump look better, eh?-- Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com,Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, AMDX, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull,Witless, Insult-Tossing Trumpsters. If you are on this list, I don't seemost of your posts and I don't read any of them.


I don't know about that but he sure makes Fat Harry look like a
babbleing idiot.
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justan February 17th 21 01:38 PM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
Wayne B Wrote in message:r
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 20:04:36 -0500, John wrote:On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 16:31:41 -0500, Wayne B wrote:On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:26:50 -0800 (PST), wrote:On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 11:12:40 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:05:51 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:15:48 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote: https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported deaths declined sharply from a recent spike. There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning. Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved. === The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to his incumbency which he was acutely aware of. Wasn't that the same time Fauci was saying that the US had nothing to worry about? :) === Do you have a cite for that? I don't remember it."On Jan. 21 - the day the first COVID-19 case in the U.S. was confirmed - Fauci appeared on conservative Newsmax TV. Bottom line, we dont have to worry about this one, right? asked Greg Kelly, the host.Fauci said, Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the kind of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.===Parsing his words, it seems like there's a bit of governmental doublespeak going on. And of course it was still early in the epidemicbefore people started dropping like flies in the north east.Does Trump get your same consideration?Hee, hee.===Hee, hee yourself John. What kind of consideration do you think heshould get? A cell right next to Bernie Madoff would be myrecommendation. They're both con men after all. Bernie got away withit for a long time but his luck finally ran out. The same thing mayhappen with Trump. Stay tuned and pass the popcorn.


Your obsession with Trump is unnatural but somewhat
understandable. Have you been paying attention to the idiot in
charge. His political polish might appeal to you but he's
destroying the Country even more agressively than his mentor did.









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John[_6_] February 17th 21 03:29 PM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 00:04:43 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 20:04:36 -0500, John wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 16:31:41 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:26:50 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 11:12:40 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:05:51 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:15:48 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.


Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved.
===

The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.

Wasn't that the same time Fauci was saying that the US had nothing to worry about? :)
===

Do you have a cite for that? I don't remember it.

"On Jan. 21 - the day the first COVID-19 case in the U.S. was confirmed - Fauci appeared on conservative Newsmax TV. Bottom line, we dont have to worry about this one, right? asked Greg Kelly, the host.

Fauci said, Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the kind of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.

===

Parsing his words, it seems like there's a bit of governmental double
speak going on. And of course it was still early in the epidemic
before people started dropping like flies in the north east.


Does Trump get your same consideration?

Hee, hee.


===

Hee, hee yourself John. What kind of consideration do you think he
should get? A cell right next to Bernie Madoff would be my
recommendation. They're both con men after all. Bernie got away with
it for a long time but his luck finally ran out. The same thing may
happen with Trump. Stay tuned and pass the popcorn.


The same consideration you gave Fauci!
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John[_6_] February 17th 21 03:30 PM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 07:13:26 -0500, Keyser Sze
wrote:

On 2/17/21 6:35 AM, Keyser Sze wrote:
On 2/17/21 12:16 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 16:31:41 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:26:50 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 11:12:40 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:05:51 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:15:48 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point


Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest
level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily
reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday,
according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938
a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the
morning.


Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No
telling how many lives that may have saved.
===

The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still
denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.

Wasn't that the same time Fauci was saying that the US had nothing
to worry about? :)
===

Do you have a cite for that? I don't remember it.

"On Jan. 21 - the day the first COVID-19 case in the U.S. was
confirmed - Fauci appeared on conservative Newsmax TV. Bottom line,
we dont have to worry about this one, right? asked Greg Kelly, the
host.

Fauci said, Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the
kind of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and
the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a
major threat to the people of the United States and this is not
something that the citizens of the United States right now should be
worried about.

===

Parsing his words, it seems like there's a bit of governmental double
speak going on.* And of course it was still early in the epidemic
before people started dropping like flies in the north east.

He still thought more of the politically correct thing to say than
anything scientific but that is not surprising, he is a political
patronage worker. He serves at the pleasure of the HHS secretary. He
is not a civil service employee.

And you don't respect civil service workers, either, right?


Oh, let's not forget that info on COVID and the vaccines is a moving
target. An actual scientist takes into account information at hand and
then adjusts it if the info at hand changes. Obviously, our knowledge of
COVID and Fauci's knowledge of it has evolved with time.


As did Trump's, yet he does not get the slack Fauci gets. You're hypocrites.
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justan February 17th 21 03:53 PM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
John Wrote in message:r
On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 00:04:43 -0500, Wayne B wrote:On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 20:04:36 -0500, John wrote:On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 16:31:41 -0500, Wayne B wrote:On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:26:50 -0800 (PST), wrote:On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 11:12:40 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:05:51 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:15:48 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote: https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported deaths declined sharply from a recent spike. There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning. Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved. === The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to his incumbency which he was acutely aware of. Wasn't that the same time Fauci was saying that the US had nothing to worry about? :) === Do you have a cite for that? I don't remember it."On Jan. 21 - the day the first COVID-19 case in the U.S. was confirmed - Fauci appeared on conservative Newsmax TV. Bottom line, we dont have to worry about this one, right? asked Greg Kelly, the host.Fauci said, Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the kind of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.===Parsing his words, it seems like there's a bit of governmental doublespeak going on. And of course it was still early in the epidemicbefore people started dropping like flies in the north east.Does Trump get your same consideration?Hee, hee.===Hee, hee yourself John. What kind of consideration do you think heshould get? A cell right next to Bernie Madoff would be myrecommendation. They're both con men after all. Bernie got away withit for a long time but his luck finally ran out. The same thing mayhappen with Trump. Stay tuned and pass the popcorn.The same consideration you gave Fauci!--Freedom Isn't Free!


He hasn't even been acused of anything yet. Wayne is just one
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[email protected] February 18th 21 07:31 AM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 00:04:43 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 20:04:36 -0500, John wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 16:31:41 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:26:50 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 11:12:40 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:05:51 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:15:48 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.


Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved.
===

The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.

Wasn't that the same time Fauci was saying that the US had nothing to worry about? :)
===

Do you have a cite for that? I don't remember it.

"On Jan. 21 - the day the first COVID-19 case in the U.S. was confirmed - Fauci appeared on conservative Newsmax TV. “Bottom line, we don’t have to worry about this one, right?” asked Greg Kelly, the host.

Fauci said, “Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the kind of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be

worried about.”

===

Parsing his words, it seems like there's a bit of governmental double
speak going on. And of course it was still early in the epidemic
before people started dropping like flies in the north east.


Does Trump get your same consideration?

Hee, hee.


===

Hee, hee yourself John. What kind of consideration do you think he
should get? A cell right next to Bernie Madoff would be my
recommendation. They're both con men after all. Bernie got away with
it for a long time but his luck finally ran out. The same thing may
happen with Trump. Stay tuned and pass the popcorn.


I guess a subtle difference is Madoff scammed regular people,
thousands of them and Trump just scammed a few banks who should know
better. If he is guilty, charge him in court. I am OK with that. It is
how the system works but I bet any successful prosecutions will be in
civil or tax court, not criminal court.
Basically only money. The question is whether he still has the ability
to make any. I think he is less than broke but I have felt that way
since the 70s when I said my real net worth is probably higher than
his and I am just a "multi thousandaire". ;-)
It always amazed me people would still lend him money and watch him
living large on those loans.
At a certain point I just have to tell those venture capitalists
"Stupid is as stupid does" and I don't really have that much sympathy
for them. They must believe they will get their money back somehow.

Carl Ichan has the right idea. Pick up his distressed properties at
pennies on the dollar, bust them up and roll them over or develop them
as an actual money maker. I still get my check from Carl every
quarter.

[email protected] February 18th 21 07:35 AM

Good Covid news from the Wall Street Journal
 
On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 06:33:36 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/17/21 12:29 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 20:09:12 -0500, John wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 17:11:56 -0500, John wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 10:29:00 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/16/21 10:15 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.


Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved.

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The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.


From Newsweek:

A new report highlights the hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths
in the U.S. under former President Donald Trump, noting that some 40
percent of COVID-19 pandemic deaths in 2020 would have been averted if
America's mortality rate was equivalent to other wealthy peer nations.

The report—published Thursday in one of the world's oldest and
best-known medical journals The Lancet—explains that even before the
pandemic, the U.S. saw 461,000 unnecessary deaths in 2018 when compared
to the death rates in other G7 nations (Canada, France, Germany, Italy,
Japan and the United Kingdom). Comparing the U.S. COVID-19 mortality
rate to this peer group, the U.S. would have seen 40 percent fewer
deaths in 2020 if its mortality rate was comparable.

"The global COVID-19 pandemic has had a disproportionate effect on the
USA, with more than 26 million diagnosed cases and over 450000 deaths as
of early February, 2021, about 40% of which could have been averted had
the U.S. death rate mirrored the weighted average of the other G7
nations," the report explains.

"Many of the cases and deaths were avoidable. Instead of galvanizing the
US populace to fight the pandemic, President Trump publicly dismissed
its threat (despite privately acknowledging it), discouraged action as
infection spread, and eschewed international cooperation," it continues.

Here's where we fall. Cherry-picking a few countries would make us look pretty
damn good.

'Weighted Average'? Show me.

The link:

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...=homeAdvegas1?

Scroll down and then click on Death/1M pop.


When you compare the absolute number of deaths to a country the size
of Wyoming with the population of Florida the US looks bad but look at
the numbers per 100,000 people

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...n-inhabitants/


Still trying to make Trump look better, eh?


Don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant. Carry on.

BTW NBC Evening News even carried the story that DeSantis is doing
better with his "open" Florida policy in Covid numbers than Newsom and
his lockdown.
They seemed to be confused by it but they did run it.
That is in spite of the influx of snowbirds from hot spots all over
the north and places like UK.


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