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Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing the ducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get there for a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipe to a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines, so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulous invention. |
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On 1/24/21 8:25 PM, Bill wrote:
Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing the ducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get there for a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipe to a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines, so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulous invention. The licensed plumber who installed our new water heater a couple of years ago used "sharkbites," and said he had been using them without issue for "some time." The heater is in a protected spot in a indoor basement storage room, so the pipes aren't exposed to huge temperature variations or subject to being banged by falling objects, kids on hot wheels bikes, et cetera. -- Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com, Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, AMDX, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull, Witless, Insult-Tossing Trumpsters. If you are on this list, I don't see most of your posts and I don't read any of them. |
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Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing theducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get therefor a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipeto a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines,so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulousinvention. Sharkbite, PEX, and other relatively new plumbing materials are good things to know about. I was thinking of using PVC to run air compressor air lines around the perimeter of my garage until I read some horror stories about that material and decided to use PEX instead. I used a number of Sharkbite fittings but I had trouble sealing one particular PEX to 1/2 NPT Sharkbite fitting. in this case I used a Flair-it brand plastic fitting instead. It screws together; no tools required. -- ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...net/index.html |
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On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 01:25:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing the ducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get there for a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipe to a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines, so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulous invention. Thanks for info. Never used 'em. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 11:32:42 AM UTC-5, John H wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 01:25:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing the ducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get there for a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipe to a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines, so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulous invention. Thanks for info. Never used 'em. Sharkbite connectors are great. Just be prepared for some sticker shock when you buy them. Pricey! |
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justan wrote:
Bill Wrote in message:r Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing theducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get therefor a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipeto a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines,so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulousinvention. Sharkbite, PEX, and other relatively new plumbing materials are good things to know about. I was thinking of using PVC to run air compressor air lines around the perimeter of my garage until I read some horror stories about that material and decided to use PEX instead. I used a number of Sharkbite fittings but I had trouble sealing one particular PEX to 1/2 NPT Sharkbite fitting. in this case I used a Flair-it brand plastic fitting instead. It screws together; no tools required. I am doing copper lines. |
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On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 11:32:42 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 01:25:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing the ducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get there for a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipe to a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines, so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulous invention. Thanks for info. Never used 'em. Sharkbite connectors are great. Just be prepared for some sticker shock when you buy them. Pricey! Ended up a lot cheaper than the $180 an hour plumber. |
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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/24/21 8:25 PM, Bill wrote: Getting a new heater and AC system.Â* When the guy was under house doing the ducts, he found two leaks in the water lines.Â* Plumber could not get there for a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipe to a Union and a leaking sweated joint.Â* Water still dripping from lines, so near impossible to solder.Â* Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulous invention. The licensed plumber who installed our new water heater a couple of years ago used "sharkbites," and said he had been using them without issue for "some time." The heater is in a protected spot in a indoor basement storage room, so the pipes aren't exposed to huge temperature variations or subject to being banged by falling objects, kids on hot wheels bikes, et cetera. Unions don't like them.Â* They don't like Romex either. |
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On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 08:19:53 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 1/24/21 8:25 PM, Bill wrote: Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing the ducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get there for a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipe to a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines, so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulous invention. The licensed plumber who installed our new water heater a couple of years ago used "sharkbites," and said he had been using them without issue for "some time." The heater is in a protected spot in a indoor basement storage room, so the pipes aren't exposed to huge temperature variations or subject to being banged by falling objects, kids on hot wheels bikes, et cetera. Yeah "O" rings always last forever ;-) That Poly Butyl pipe was the cat's meow too ... until it wasn't. |
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On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 09:05:53 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:
Bill Wrote in message:r Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing theducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get therefor a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipeto a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines,so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulousinvention. Sharkbite, PEX, and other relatively new plumbing materials are good things to know about. I was thinking of using PVC to run air compressor air lines around the perimeter of my garage until I read some horror stories about that material and decided to use PEX instead. I used a number of Sharkbite fittings but I had trouble sealing one particular PEX to 1/2 NPT Sharkbite fitting. in this case I used a Flair-it brand plastic fitting instead. It screws together; no tools required. Maybe I build for the next millennium but my shop air is running in galvanized, gas rated pipe. (Gas rated only means the inside is less likely to flake off). That is also what they use for Nat Gas and Propane if it isn't plastic or CSST. Black iron rusts up here. |
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On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 09:06:20 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 11:32:42 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 01:25:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing the ducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get there for a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipe to a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines, so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulous invention. Thanks for info. Never used 'em. Sharkbite connectors are great. Just be prepared for some sticker shock when you buy them. Pricey! Insurance cost ;-) |
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On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:32:02 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: justan wrote: Bill Wrote in message:r Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing theducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get therefor a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipeto a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines,so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulousinvention. Sharkbite, PEX, and other relatively new plumbing materials are good things to know about. I was thinking of using PVC to run air compressor air lines around the perimeter of my garage until I read some horror stories about that material and decided to use PEX instead. I used a number of Sharkbite fittings but I had trouble sealing one particular PEX to 1/2 NPT Sharkbite fitting. in this case I used a Flair-it brand plastic fitting instead. It screws together; no tools required. I am doing copper lines. PVC, CPVC and PEX are king here these days. Florida water seems to be tough on copper. I really think it is electrical tho. Mine is not connected to the street and single point connected to the grid. I haven't had a problem. Places with city water get slammed worse than well customers. Older homes with metal from the street seem OK too. I think it is electrolysis. Law suits were flying in Cape Coral a decade or two ago and nobody really ever had an answer they were willing to admit. Most re plumbs were done in plastic. |
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On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:32:02 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: justan wrote: Bill Wrote in message:r Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing theducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get therefor a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipeto a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines,so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulousinvention. Sharkbite, PEX, and other relatively new plumbing materials are good things to know about. I was thinking of using PVC to run air compressor air lines around the perimeter of my garage until I read some horror stories about that material and decided to use PEX instead. I used a number of Sharkbite fittings but I had trouble sealing one particular PEX to 1/2 NPT Sharkbite fitting. in this case I used a Flair-it brand plastic fitting instead. It screws together; no tools required. I am doing copper lines. PVC, CPVC and PEX are king here these days. Florida water seems to be tough on copper. I really think it is electrical tho. Mine is not connected to the street and single point connected to the grid. I haven't had a problem. Places with city water get slammed worse than well customers. Older homes with metal from the street seem OK too. I think it is electrolysis. Law suits were flying in Cape Coral a decade or two ago and nobody really ever had an answer they were willing to admit. Most re plumbs were done in plastic. We have Poly from the meter to the house. House used to be all crappy galvanized. I understand when these homes were built early 1970’s they had to get Korean galvanized as US was not making enough. When we had a dry wood termite problem upstairs bathrooms, I changed most of the galvanized out to copper. Couple places were impossible to change so used dielectric unions and brass pipes to connect. One of the leaks was a badly corroded galvanized pipe connected to the dielectric Union. Changed to brass fittings. |
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On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 2:32:05 PM UTC-5, Bill wrote:
wrote: On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 11:32:42 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 01:25:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing the ducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get there for a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipe to a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines, so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulous invention. Thanks for info. Never used 'em. Sharkbite connectors are great. Just be prepared for some sticker shock when you buy them. Pricey! Ended up a lot cheaper than the $180 an hour plumber. True. Our kitchen remodel included some plumbing work. Since I had hired a contractor for the job (a total rip-out down to sheetrock), a plumber was involved. He used sharkbite connectors to join PEX to the existing PVC. |
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On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 05:49:21 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:32:02 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: justan wrote: Bill Wrote in message:r Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing theducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get therefor a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipeto a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines,so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulousinvention. Sharkbite, PEX, and other relatively new plumbing materials are good things to know about. I was thinking of using PVC to run air compressor air lines around the perimeter of my garage until I read some horror stories about that material and decided to use PEX instead. I used a number of Sharkbite fittings but I had trouble sealing one particular PEX to 1/2 NPT Sharkbite fitting. in this case I used a Flair-it brand plastic fitting instead. It screws together; no tools required. I am doing copper lines. PVC, CPVC and PEX are king here these days. Florida water seems to be tough on copper. I really think it is electrical tho. Mine is not connected to the street and single point connected to the grid. I haven't had a problem. Places with city water get slammed worse than well customers. Older homes with metal from the street seem OK too. I think it is electrolysis. Law suits were flying in Cape Coral a decade or two ago and nobody really ever had an answer they were willing to admit. Most re plumbs were done in plastic. We have Poly from the meter to the house. House used to be all crappy galvanized. I understand when these homes were built early 1970’s they had to get Korean galvanized as US was not making enough. When we had a dry wood termite problem upstairs bathrooms, I changed most of the galvanized out to copper. Couple places were impossible to change so used dielectric unions and brass pipes to connect. One of the leaks was a badly corroded galvanized pipe connected to the dielectric Union. Changed to brass fittings. I am surprised anyone was still using galvanized for plumbing in the 70s. My house in Md built in 53-54 was copper. It also had grounded Romex but used NEMA 1-15 receptacles. The boxes were grounded. |
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On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 00:57:34 -0500, Wayne B
wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 23:32:21 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:32:02 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: justan wrote: Bill Wrote in message:r Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing theducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get therefor a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipeto a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines,so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulousinvention. Sharkbite, PEX, and other relatively new plumbing materials are good things to know about. I was thinking of using PVC to run air compressor air lines around the perimeter of my garage until I read some horror stories about that material and decided to use PEX instead. I used a number of Sharkbite fittings but I had trouble sealing one particular PEX to 1/2 NPT Sharkbite fitting. in this case I used a Flair-it brand plastic fitting instead. It screws together; no tools required. I am doing copper lines. PVC, CPVC and PEX are king here these days. Florida water seems to be tough on copper. I really think it is electrical tho. Mine is not connected to the street and single point connected to the grid. I haven't had a problem. Places with city water get slammed worse than well customers. Older homes with metal from the street seem OK too. I think it is electrolysis. Law suits were flying in Cape Coral a decade or two ago and nobody really ever had an answer they were willing to admit. Most re plumbs were done in plastic. === We had to get our place replumbed in plastic a few years back after developing a series of pin hole leaks in the original copper. The theory is that the Cape's RO water lacks minerals (TDS) so that over time it tries to leach out impurities in the copper. https://4perfec****er.com/blog/reverse-osmosis-and-copper-pipes/ We had a pin hole leak in a line over the kitchen cabinets a while back. Plumber blamed copper from China. Said a small imperfection in the pipe can cause a buildup of minerals and eventually eat through the copper. Said it would start as a small drip taking a long time to drop. The leak could have started years before I noticed the wet sheet rock in the bathroom adjoining the kitchen. Cost USAA over $26,000. Plumber cost me $100 to fix the leak. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 09:05:53 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:Bill Wrote in message:r Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing theducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get therefor a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipeto a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines,so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulousinvention.Sharkbite, PEX, and other relatively new plumbing materials are good things to know about. I was thinking of using PVC to run air compressor air lines around the perimeter of my garage until I read some horror stories about that material and decided to use PEX instead. I used a number of Sharkbite fittings but I had trouble sealing one particular PEX to 1/2 NPT Sharkbite fitting. in this case I used a Flair-it brand plastic fitting instead. It screws together; no tools required.Maybe I build for the next millennium but my shop air is running ingalvanized, gas rated pipe. (Gas rated only means the inside is lesslikely to flake off). That is also what they use for Nat Gas andPropane if it isn't plastic or CSST. Black iron rusts up here. My camper is all PEX and my house is all CPVC. I found a 100 ft. roll of white Sharkbite (same as PEX) at Lowes. Installation was quick, easy, and cheap. Pressure rated at 200 psi. will split rather than shatter. I have not projected mu needs into the next millenium. I also Remember the sage investment advice given to Benjamin Braddock in 1967. -- ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...net/index.html |
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On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 23:32:21 -0500, wrote:On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:32:02 -0000 (UTC), wrote:justan wrote: Bill Wrote in message:r Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing theducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get therefor a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipeto a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines,so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulousinvention. Sharkbite, PEX, and other relatively new plumbing materials are good things to know about. I was thinking of using PVC to run air compressor air lines around the perimeter of my garage until I read some horror stories about that material and decided to use PEX instead. I used a number of Sharkbite fittings but I had trouble sealing one particular PEX to 1/2 NPT Sharkbite fitting. in this case I used a Flair-it brand plastic fitting instead. It screws together; no tools required.I am doing copper lines.PVC, CPVC and PEX are king here these days. Florida water seems to betough on copper. I really think it is electrical tho. Mine is notconnected to the street and single point connected to the grid. Ihaven't had a problem. Places with city water get slammed worse thanwell customers. Older homes with metal from the street seem OK too.I think it is electrolysis.Law suits were flying in Cape Coral a decade or two ago and nobodyreally ever had an answer they were willing to admit. Most re plumbs were done in plastic.===We had to get our place replumbed in plastic a few years back afterdeveloping a series of pin hole leaks in the original copper. Thetheory is that the Cape's RO water lacks minerals (TDS) so that overtime it tries to leach out impurities in the copper.https://4perfec****er.com/blog/reverse-osmosis-and-copper-pipes/ That RO fact is known now and devices have been designed to add TDS into water. Also Chlorine is known to be harmful to plastic pipe. Do you have a salt Sanitizer system in your pool? ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...net/index.html |
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On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 05:07:30 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 2:32:05 PM UTC-5, Bill wrote: wrote: On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 11:32:42 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 01:25:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing the ducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get there for a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipe to a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines, so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulous invention. Thanks for info. Never used 'em. Sharkbite connectors are great. Just be prepared for some sticker shock when you buy them. Pricey! Ended up a lot cheaper than the $180 an hour plumber. True. Our kitchen remodel included some plumbing work. Since I had hired a contractor for the job (a total rip-out down to sheetrock), a plumber was involved. He used sharkbite connectors to join PEX to the existing PVC. Why not just extend the existing (C)PVC to the place you need it. Just be sure to use the brass drop ear flanges and brass shut off valves. Surely a plumber could handle pasting together that pipe. |
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On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 05:07:30 -0800 (PST), wrote:On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 2:32:05 PM UTC-5, Bill wrote: wrote: On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 11:32:42 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 01:25:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing the ducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get there for a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipe to a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines, so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulous invention. Thanks for info. Never used 'em. Sharkbite connectors are great. Just be prepared for some sticker shock when you buy them. Pricey! Ended up a lot cheaper than the $180 an hour plumber.True. Our kitchen remodel included some plumbing work. Since I had hired a contractor for the job (a total rip-out down to sheetrock), a plumber was involved. He used sharkbite connectors to join PEX to the existing PVC.Why not just extend the existing (C)PVC to the place you need it. Justbe sure to use the brass drop ear flanges and brass shut off valves. Surely a plumber could handle pasting together that pipe. If you Google PEX vs CPVC you might find the answer. -- ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazon...net/index.html |
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 09:15:16 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:
Wrote in message:r On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 05:07:30 -0800 (PST), wrote:On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 2:32:05 PM UTC-5, Bill wrote: wrote: On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 11:32:42 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 01:25:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing the ducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get there for a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipe to a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines, so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulous invention. Thanks for info. Never used 'em. Sharkbite connectors are great. Just be prepared for some sticker shock when you buy them. Pricey! Ended up a lot cheaper than the $180 an hour plumber.True. Our kitchen remodel included some plumbing work. Since I had hired a contractor for the job (a total rip-out down to sheetrock), a plumber was involved. He used sharkbite connectors to join PEX to the existing PVC.Why not just extend the existing (C)PVC to the place you need it. Justbe sure to use the brass drop ear flanges and brass shut off valves. Surely a plumber could handle pasting together that pipe. If you Google PEX vs CPVC you might find the answer. What ever answer you want. The guy from Flow Guard Gold says PEX sucks and the PEX guy has his story about price. (fast easy install). The reality is a production plumber who has the tools and the certified installers to maintain the warranty on PEX is going to win the bid on a big contract and everyone else is probably better off doing CPVC. YMMV depending on where you live and what plumbers do most there. Repipe? I am going PEX. You can fish that stuff if you can support it. You just need the tools to terminate it. Open wall? Probably CPVC for the average guy. |
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On Friday, January 29, 2021 at 3:07:53 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 09:15:16 -0500 (EST), justan wrote: Wrote in message:r On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 05:07:30 -0800 (PST), wrote:On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 2:32:05 PM UTC-5, Bill wrote: wrote: On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 11:32:42 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 01:25:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing the ducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get there for a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipe to a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines, so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors.. Fabulous invention. Thanks for info. Never used 'em. Sharkbite connectors are great. Just be prepared for some sticker shock when you buy them. Pricey! Ended up a lot cheaper than the $180 an hour plumber.True. Our kitchen remodel included some plumbing work. Since I had hired a contractor for the job (a total rip-out down to sheetrock), a plumber was involved. He used sharkbite connectors to join PEX to the existing PVC.Why not just extend the existing (C)PVC to the place you need it. Justbe sure to use the brass drop ear flanges and brass shut off valves. Surely a plumber could handle pasting together that pipe. If you Google PEX vs CPVC you might find the answer. What ever answer you want. The guy from Flow Guard Gold says PEX sucks and the PEX guy has his story about price. (fast easy install). The reality is a production plumber who has the tools and the certified installers to maintain the warranty on PEX is going to win the bid on a big contract and everyone else is probably better off doing CPVC. YMMV depending on where you live and what plumbers do most there. Repipe? I am going PEX. You can fish that stuff if you can support it. You just need the tools to terminate it. Open wall? Probably CPVC for the average guy. I can see PEX winning for new construction. Like you said, it's fast and easy. No need to be accurate with cuts or to carry an assortment of 45's, 90''s, etc. We added a prep sink to the island, so the only thing that slowed him down was the drain line. I do like the idea of having a manifold for water distribution. Something like this: https://www.supplyhouse.com/Viega-50250-VIEGA-1-2-18-Port-PolyAlloy-Crimp-MANABLOC-8-hot-10-cold?gclid=CjwKCAiAgc-ABhA7EiwAjev-j04b03p0kWgZftk48Z64s5An43mtjFleT-6pdl26f2VPavCD7ayPKhoCyXQQAvD_BwE A few years back I bought one of those PVC pipe cutters. It made me wonder why I fought it with a hacksaw for so long. |
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On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 06:07:21 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: On Friday, January 29, 2021 at 3:07:53 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 09:15:16 -0500 (EST), justan wrote: Wrote in message:r On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 05:07:30 -0800 (PST), wrote:On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 2:32:05 PM UTC-5, Bill wrote: wrote: On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 11:32:42 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 01:25:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing the ducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get there for a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipe to a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines, so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulous invention. Thanks for info. Never used 'em. Sharkbite connectors are great. Just be prepared for some sticker shock when you buy them. Pricey! Ended up a lot cheaper than the $180 an hour plumber.True. Our kitchen remodel included some plumbing work. Since I had hired a contractor for the job (a total rip-out down to sheetrock), a plumber was involved. He used sharkbite connectors to join PEX to the existing PVC.Why not just extend the existing (C)PVC to the place you need it. Justbe sure to use the brass drop ear flanges and brass shut off valves. Surely a plumber could handle pasting together that pipe. If you Google PEX vs CPVC you might find the answer. What ever answer you want. The guy from Flow Guard Gold says PEX sucks and the PEX guy has his story about price. (fast easy install). The reality is a production plumber who has the tools and the certified installers to maintain the warranty on PEX is going to win the bid on a big contract and everyone else is probably better off doing CPVC. YMMV depending on where you live and what plumbers do most there. Repipe? I am going PEX. You can fish that stuff if you can support it. You just need the tools to terminate it. Open wall? Probably CPVC for the average guy. I can see PEX winning for new construction. Like you said, it's fast and easy. No need to be accurate with cuts or to carry an assortment of 45's, 90''s, etc. We added a prep sink to the island, so the only thing that slowed him down was the drain line. I do like the idea of having a manifold for water distribution. Something like this: https://www.supplyhouse.com/Viega-50250-VIEGA-1-2-18-Port-PolyAlloy-Crimp-MANABLOC-8-hot-10-cold?gclid=CjwKCAiAgc-ABhA7EiwAjev-j04b03p0kWgZftk48Z64s5An43mtjFleT-6pdl26f2VPavCD7ayPKhoCyXQQAvD_BwE A few years back I bought one of those PVC pipe cutters. It made me wonder why I fought it with a hacksaw for so long. A real CPVC crew goes pretty fast but I agree if you have the tools PEX is faster. I think the fittings may make it a push if you are buying them by the box. If I ever need to do a repipe it will be PEX because you can "fish" it PVC cutters are cool. I have had at least one since the first one I ever saw. This is PVC land so they get plenty of use. I also use PVC for lots of other stuff. It is a pretty cool material, particularly when used with the sheets. The cement works on that stuff too .. I also use the cutters for other stuff. I have one in the kitchen for a few things like cutting off the knuckles on turkey legs and cutting up those twisty treat busy bones for the dog. If he hears the PVC cutter going, I have a friend. We used them in the flower store for lots of stuff too. You could knock the ends off of 2 dozen roses or a ****load of carnations in one "ticka ticka" operation with a pretty clean cut. It was also good for cutting up those bamboo sticks we used in stuff. |
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On Saturday, January 30, 2021 at 9:54:20 AM UTC-5, John H wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 00:58:40 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 06:07:21 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Friday, January 29, 2021 at 3:07:53 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 09:15:16 -0500 (EST), justan wrote: Wrote in message:r On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 05:07:30 -0800 (PST), wrote:On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 2:32:05 PM UTC-5, Bill wrote: wrote: On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 11:32:42 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 01:25:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing the ducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get there for a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipe to a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines, so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulous invention. Thanks for info. Never used 'em. Sharkbite connectors are great. Just be prepared for some sticker shock when you buy them. Pricey! Ended up a lot cheaper than the $180 an hour plumber.True. Our kitchen remodel included some plumbing work. Since I had hired a contractor for the job (a total rip-out down to sheetrock), a plumber was involved. He used sharkbite connectors to join PEX to the existing PVC.Why not just extend the existing (C)PVC to the place you need it. Justbe sure to use the brass drop ear flanges and brass shut off valves. Surely a plumber could handle pasting together that pipe. If you Google PEX vs CPVC you might find the answer. What ever answer you want. The guy from Flow Guard Gold says PEX sucks and the PEX guy has his story about price. (fast easy install). The reality is a production plumber who has the tools and the certified installers to maintain the warranty on PEX is going to win the bid on a big contract and everyone else is probably better off doing CPVC. YMMV depending on where you live and what plumbers do most there. Repipe? I am going PEX. You can fish that stuff if you can support it.. You just need the tools to terminate it. Open wall? Probably CPVC for the average guy. I can see PEX winning for new construction. Like you said, it's fast and easy. No need to be accurate with cuts or to carry an assortment of 45's, 90''s, etc. We added a prep sink to the island, so the only thing that slowed him down was the drain line. I do like the idea of having a manifold for water distribution. Something like this: https://www.supplyhouse.com/Viega-50250-VIEGA-1-2-18-Port-PolyAlloy-Crimp-MANABLOC-8-hot-10-cold?gclid=CjwKCAiAgc-ABhA7EiwAjev-j04b03p0kWgZftk48Z64s5An43mtjFleT-6pdl26f2VPavCD7ayPKhoCyXQQAvD_BwE A few years back I bought one of those PVC pipe cutters. It made me wonder why I fought it with a hacksaw for so long. A real CPVC crew goes pretty fast but I agree if you have the tools PEX is faster. I think the fittings may make it a push if you are buying them by the box. If I ever need to do a repipe it will be PEX because you can "fish" it PVC cutters are cool. I have had at least one since the first one I ever saw. This is PVC land so they get plenty of use. I also use PVC for lots of other stuff. It is a pretty cool material, particularly when used with the sheets. The cement works on that stuff too . I also use the cutters for other stuff. I have one in the kitchen for a few things like cutting off the knuckles on turkey legs and cutting up those twisty treat busy bones for the dog. If he hears the PVC cutter going, I have a friend. We used them in the flower store for lots of stuff too. You could knock the ends off of 2 dozen roses or a ****load of carnations in one "ticka ticka" operation with a pretty clean cut. It was also good for cutting up those bamboo sticks we used in stuff. Would something like that work to spatchcock a turkey? -- Freedom Isn't Free! I seems to me that the jaws are too curved for that. Some decent kitchen shears would be good for that. https://www.lowes.com/pd/Kobalt-2-In-in-PVC-cutter/1002633490?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-plb-_-google-_-lia-_-208-_-plumbingtools-_-1002633490-_-0&placeholder=null&ds_rl=1286981&gclid=CjwKCAiApNS ABhAlEiwANuR9YI2KhqBVvt6qbGcv-v_1jncpAcnkzXwAsBtPB0Pm46nKdr_hFkN49BoC52EQAvD_BwE &gclsrc=aw.ds We have one of these, and they are pretty strong. https://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/store/product/j-a-henckels-international-robust-kitchen-shears/1011272690?skuId=11272690&poc=1016747530 |
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On Saturday, January 30, 2021 at 9:54:20 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 00:58:40 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 06:07:21 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Friday, January 29, 2021 at 3:07:53 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 09:15:16 -0500 (EST), justan wrote: Wrote in message:r On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 05:07:30 -0800 (PST), wrote:On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 2:32:05 PM UTC-5, Bill wrote: wrote: On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 11:32:42 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 01:25:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing the ducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get there for a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipe to a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines, so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulous invention. Thanks for info. Never used 'em. Sharkbite connectors are great. Just be prepared for some sticker shock when you buy them. Pricey! Ended up a lot cheaper than the $180 an hour plumber.True. Our kitchen remodel included some plumbing work. Since I had hired a contractor for the job (a total rip-out down to sheetrock), a plumber was involved. He used sharkbite connectors to join PEX to the existing PVC.Why not just extend the existing (C)PVC to the place you need it. Justbe sure to use the brass drop ear flanges and brass shut off valves. Surely a plumber could handle pasting together that pipe. If you Google PEX vs CPVC you might find the answer. What ever answer you want. The guy from Flow Guard Gold says PEX sucks and the PEX guy has his story about price. (fast easy install). The reality is a production plumber who has the tools and the certified installers to maintain the warranty on PEX is going to win the bid on a big contract and everyone else is probably better off doing CPVC. YMMV depending on where you live and what plumbers do most there. Repipe? I am going PEX. You can fish that stuff if you can support it. You just need the tools to terminate it. Open wall? Probably CPVC for the average guy. I can see PEX winning for new construction. Like you said, it's fast and easy. No need to be accurate with cuts or to carry an assortment of 45's, 90''s, etc. We added a prep sink to the island, so the only thing that slowed him down was the drain line. I do like the idea of having a manifold for water distribution. Something like this: https://www.supplyhouse.com/Viega-50250-VIEGA-1-2-18-Port-PolyAlloy-Crimp-MANABLOC-8-hot-10-cold?gclid=CjwKCAiAgc-ABhA7EiwAjev-j04b03p0kWgZftk48Z64s5An43mtjFleT-6pdl26f2VPavCD7ayPKhoCyXQQAvD_BwE A few years back I bought one of those PVC pipe cutters. It made me wonder why I fought it with a hacksaw for so long. A real CPVC crew goes pretty fast but I agree if you have the tools PEX is faster. I think the fittings may make it a push if you are buying them by the box. If I ever need to do a repipe it will be PEX because you can "fish" it PVC cutters are cool. I have had at least one since the first one I ever saw. This is PVC land so they get plenty of use. I also use PVC for lots of other stuff. It is a pretty cool material, particularly when used with the sheets. The cement works on that stuff too . I also use the cutters for other stuff. I have one in the kitchen for a few things like cutting off the knuckles on turkey legs and cutting up those twisty treat busy bones for the dog. If he hears the PVC cutter going, I have a friend. We used them in the flower store for lots of stuff too. You could knock the ends off of 2 dozen roses or a ****load of carnations in one "ticka ticka" operation with a pretty clean cut. It was also good for cutting up those bamboo sticks we used in stuff. Would something like that work to spatchcock a turkey? -- Freedom Isn't Free! I seems to me that the jaws are too curved for that. Some decent kitchen shears would be good for that. https://www.lowes.com/pd/Kobalt-2-In-in-PVC-cutter/1002633490?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-plb-_-google-_-lia-_-208-_-plumbingtools-_-1002633490-_-0&placeholder=null&ds_rl86981&gclid=CjwKCAiApNSAB hAlEiwANuR9YI2KhqBVvt6qbGcv-v_1jncpAcnkzXwAsBtPB0Pm46nKdr_hFkN49BoC52EQAvD_BwE &gclsrc=aw.ds We have one of these, and they are pretty strong. https://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/store/product/j-a-henckels-international-robust-kitchen-shears/1011272690?skuId272690&poc16747530 I had that model in the boat and salt air froze it up. I have a Gerbers now, which comes apart at the hinge easily. |
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On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 09:54:19 -0500, John wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 00:58:40 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 06:07:21 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Friday, January 29, 2021 at 3:07:53 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 09:15:16 -0500 (EST), justan wrote: Wrote in message:r On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 05:07:30 -0800 (PST), wrote:On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 2:32:05 PM UTC-5, Bill wrote: wrote: On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 11:32:42 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 01:25:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing the ducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get there for a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipe to a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines, so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulous invention. Thanks for info. Never used 'em. Sharkbite connectors are great. Just be prepared for some sticker shock when you buy them. Pricey! Ended up a lot cheaper than the $180 an hour plumber.True. Our kitchen remodel included some plumbing work. Since I had hired a contractor for the job (a total rip-out down to sheetrock), a plumber was involved. He used sharkbite connectors to join PEX to the existing PVC.Why not just extend the existing (C)PVC to the place you need it. Justbe sure to use the brass drop ear flanges and brass shut off valves. Surely a plumber could handle pasting together that pipe. If you Google PEX vs CPVC you might find the answer. What ever answer you want. The guy from Flow Guard Gold says PEX sucks and the PEX guy has his story about price. (fast easy install). The reality is a production plumber who has the tools and the certified installers to maintain the warranty on PEX is going to win the bid on a big contract and everyone else is probably better off doing CPVC. YMMV depending on where you live and what plumbers do most there. Repipe? I am going PEX. You can fish that stuff if you can support it. You just need the tools to terminate it. Open wall? Probably CPVC for the average guy. I can see PEX winning for new construction. Like you said, it's fast and easy. No need to be accurate with cuts or to carry an assortment of 45's, 90''s, etc. We added a prep sink to the island, so the only thing that slowed him down was the drain line. I do like the idea of having a manifold for water distribution. Something like this: https://www.supplyhouse.com/Viega-50250-VIEGA-1-2-18-Port-PolyAlloy-Crimp-MANABLOC-8-hot-10-cold?gclid=CjwKCAiAgc-ABhA7EiwAjev-j04b03p0kWgZftk48Z64s5An43mtjFleT-6pdl26f2VPavCD7ayPKhoCyXQQAvD_BwE A few years back I bought one of those PVC pipe cutters. It made me wonder why I fought it with a hacksaw for so long. A real CPVC crew goes pretty fast but I agree if you have the tools PEX is faster. I think the fittings may make it a push if you are buying them by the box. If I ever need to do a repipe it will be PEX because you can "fish" it PVC cutters are cool. I have had at least one since the first one I ever saw. This is PVC land so they get plenty of use. I also use PVC for lots of other stuff. It is a pretty cool material, particularly when used with the sheets. The cement works on that stuff too . I also use the cutters for other stuff. I have one in the kitchen for a few things like cutting off the knuckles on turkey legs and cutting up those twisty treat busy bones for the dog. If he hears the PVC cutter going, I have a friend. We used them in the flower store for lots of stuff too. You could knock the ends off of 2 dozen roses or a ****load of carnations in one "ticka ticka" operation with a pretty clean cut. It was also good for cutting up those bamboo sticks we used in stuff. Would something like that work to spatchcock a turkey? Probably not well. It is designed to cut round stuff. A ratchet cutter like that with a flat platten might work but I just use heavy duty kitchen shears for stuff like that. Never did a turkey but they cut up a chicken like butter. I do like the Julia Child trick of cutting off the ends of the drumsticks right where the meat starts before you cook it. Then the tendons will be poking out and you can pull them right out of there while you are letting the cooked bird rest. A PVC cutter is perfect for that. |
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On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 09:43:55 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: On Saturday, January 30, 2021 at 9:54:20 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 00:58:40 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 06:07:21 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Friday, January 29, 2021 at 3:07:53 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 09:15:16 -0500 (EST), justan wrote: Wrote in message:r On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 05:07:30 -0800 (PST), wrote:On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 2:32:05 PM UTC-5, Bill wrote: wrote: On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 11:32:42 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 01:25:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing the ducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get there for a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipe to a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines, so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulous invention. Thanks for info. Never used 'em. Sharkbite connectors are great. Just be prepared for some sticker shock when you buy them. Pricey! Ended up a lot cheaper than the $180 an hour plumber.True. Our kitchen remodel included some plumbing work. Since I had hired a contractor for the job (a total rip-out down to sheetrock), a plumber was involved. He used sharkbite connectors to join PEX to the existing PVC.Why not just extend the existing (C)PVC to the place you need it. Justbe sure to use the brass drop ear flanges and brass shut off valves. Surely a plumber could handle pasting together that pipe. If you Google PEX vs CPVC you might find the answer. What ever answer you want. The guy from Flow Guard Gold says PEX sucks and the PEX guy has his story about price. (fast easy install). The reality is a production plumber who has the tools and the certified installers to maintain the warranty on PEX is going to win the bid on a big contract and everyone else is probably better off doing CPVC. YMMV depending on where you live and what plumbers do most there. Repipe? I am going PEX. You can fish that stuff if you can support it. You just need the tools to terminate it. Open wall? Probably CPVC for the average guy. I can see PEX winning for new construction. Like you said, it's fast and easy. No need to be accurate with cuts or to carry an assortment of 45's, 90''s, etc. We added a prep sink to the island, so the only thing that slowed him down was the drain line. I do like the idea of having a manifold for water distribution. Something like this: https://www.supplyhouse.com/Viega-50250-VIEGA-1-2-18-Port-PolyAlloy-Crimp-MANABLOC-8-hot-10-cold?gclid=CjwKCAiAgc-ABhA7EiwAjev-j04b03p0kWgZftk48Z64s5An43mtjFleT-6pdl26f2VPavCD7ayPKhoCyXQQAvD_BwE A few years back I bought one of those PVC pipe cutters. It made me wonder why I fought it with a hacksaw for so long. A real CPVC crew goes pretty fast but I agree if you have the tools PEX is faster. I think the fittings may make it a push if you are buying them by the box. If I ever need to do a repipe it will be PEX because you can "fish" it PVC cutters are cool. I have had at least one since the first one I ever saw. This is PVC land so they get plenty of use. I also use PVC for lots of other stuff. It is a pretty cool material, particularly when used with the sheets. The cement works on that stuff too . I also use the cutters for other stuff. I have one in the kitchen for a few things like cutting off the knuckles on turkey legs and cutting up those twisty treat busy bones for the dog. If he hears the PVC cutter going, I have a friend. We used them in the flower store for lots of stuff too. You could knock the ends off of 2 dozen roses or a ****load of carnations in one "ticka ticka" operation with a pretty clean cut. It was also good for cutting up those bamboo sticks we used in stuff. Would something like that work to spatchcock a turkey? -- Freedom Isn't Free! I seems to me that the jaws are too curved for that. Some decent kitchen shears would be good for that. https://www.lowes.com/pd/Kobalt-2-In-in-PVC-cutter/1002633490?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-plb-_-google-_-lia-_-208-_-plumbingtools-_-1002633490-_-0&placeholder=null&ds_rl=1286981&gclid=CjwKCAiApNS ABhAlEiwANuR9YI2KhqBVvt6qbGcv-v_1jncpAcnkzXwAsBtPB0Pm46nKdr_hFkN49BoC52EQAvD_BwE &gclsrc=aw.ds We have one of these, and they are pretty strong. https://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/store/product/j-a-henckels-international-robust-kitchen-shears/1011272690?skuId=11272690&poc=1016747530 I have the Oxo |
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On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 09:43:55 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: On Saturday, January 30, 2021 at 9:54:20 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 00:58:40 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 06:07:21 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Friday, January 29, 2021 at 3:07:53 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 09:15:16 -0500 (EST), justan wrote: Wrote in message:r On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 05:07:30 -0800 (PST), wrote:On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 2:32:05 PM UTC-5, Bill wrote: wrote: On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 11:32:42 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 01:25:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing the ducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get there for a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipe to a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines, so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulous invention. Thanks for info. Never used 'em. Sharkbite connectors are great. Just be prepared for some sticker shock when you buy them. Pricey! Ended up a lot cheaper than the $180 an hour plumber.True. Our kitchen remodel included some plumbing work. Since I had hired a contractor for the job (a total rip-out down to sheetrock), a plumber was involved. He used sharkbite connectors to join PEX to the existing PVC.Why not just extend the existing (C)PVC to the place you need it. Justbe sure to use the brass drop ear flanges and brass shut off valves. Surely a plumber could handle pasting together that pipe. If you Google PEX vs CPVC you might find the answer. What ever answer you want. The guy from Flow Guard Gold says PEX sucks and the PEX guy has his story about price. (fast easy install). The reality is a production plumber who has the tools and the certified installers to maintain the warranty on PEX is going to win the bid on a big contract and everyone else is probably better off doing CPVC. YMMV depending on where you live and what plumbers do most there. Repipe? I am going PEX. You can fish that stuff if you can support it. You just need the tools to terminate it. Open wall? Probably CPVC for the average guy. I can see PEX winning for new construction. Like you said, it's fast and easy. No need to be accurate with cuts or to carry an assortment of 45's, 90''s, etc. We added a prep sink to the island, so the only thing that slowed him down was the drain line. I do like the idea of having a manifold for water distribution. Something like this: https://www.supplyhouse.com/Viega-50250-VIEGA-1-2-18-Port-PolyAlloy-Crimp-MANABLOC-8-hot-10-cold?gclid=CjwKCAiAgc-ABhA7EiwAjev-j04b03p0kWgZftk48Z64s5An43mtjFleT-6pdl26f2VPavCD7ayPKhoCyXQQAvD_BwE A few years back I bought one of those PVC pipe cutters. It made me wonder why I fought it with a hacksaw for so long. A real CPVC crew goes pretty fast but I agree if you have the tools PEX is faster. I think the fittings may make it a push if you are buying them by the box. If I ever need to do a repipe it will be PEX because you can "fish" it PVC cutters are cool. I have had at least one since the first one I ever saw. This is PVC land so they get plenty of use. I also use PVC for lots of other stuff. It is a pretty cool material, particularly when used with the sheets. The cement works on that stuff too . I also use the cutters for other stuff. I have one in the kitchen for a few things like cutting off the knuckles on turkey legs and cutting up those twisty treat busy bones for the dog. If he hears the PVC cutter going, I have a friend. We used them in the flower store for lots of stuff too. You could knock the ends off of 2 dozen roses or a ****load of carnations in one "ticka ticka" operation with a pretty clean cut. It was also good for cutting up those bamboo sticks we used in stuff. Would something like that work to spatchcock a turkey? -- Freedom Isn't Free! I seems to me that the jaws are too curved for that. Some decent kitchen shears would be good for that. https://www.lowes.com/pd/Kobalt-2-In-in-PVC-cutter/1002633490?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-plb-_-google-_-lia-_-208-_-plumbingtools-_-1002633490-_-0&placeholder=null&ds_rl=1286981&gclid=CjwKCAiApNS ABhAlEiwANuR9YI2KhqBVvt6qbGcv-v_1jncpAcnkzXwAsBtPB0Pm46nKdr_hFkN49BoC52EQAvD_BwE &gclsrc=aw.ds We have one of these, and they are pretty strong. https://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/store/product/j-a-henckels-international-robust-kitchen-shears/1011272690?skuId=11272690&poc=1016747530 I looked at this and learned all I wanted to know about PVC cutters! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5DJ6LXOTEc I think I'll stick with a hacksaw for PVC. The hardest part of spatchcocking a turkey is getting through the femur/ilium joint. Takes some knife work. Sometimes results in a bloody finger. But it's worth it. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 22:49:38 -0500, wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 09:54:19 -0500, John wrote: On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 00:58:40 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 06:07:21 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Friday, January 29, 2021 at 3:07:53 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 09:15:16 -0500 (EST), justan wrote: Wrote in message:r On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 05:07:30 -0800 (PST), wrote:On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 2:32:05 PM UTC-5, Bill wrote: wrote: On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 11:32:42 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 01:25:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing the ducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get there for a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipe to a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines, so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulous invention. Thanks for info. Never used 'em. Sharkbite connectors are great. Just be prepared for some sticker shock when you buy them. Pricey! Ended up a lot cheaper than the $180 an hour plumber.True. Our kitchen remodel included some plumbing work. Since I had hired a contractor for the job (a total rip-out down to sheetrock), a plumber was involved. He used sharkbite connectors to join PEX to the existing PVC.Why not just extend the existing (C)PVC to the place you need it. Justbe sure to use the brass drop ear flanges and brass shut off valves. Surely a plumber could handle pasting together that pipe. If you Google PEX vs CPVC you might find the answer. What ever answer you want. The guy from Flow Guard Gold says PEX sucks and the PEX guy has his story about price. (fast easy install). The reality is a production plumber who has the tools and the certified installers to maintain the warranty on PEX is going to win the bid on a big contract and everyone else is probably better off doing CPVC. YMMV depending on where you live and what plumbers do most there. Repipe? I am going PEX. You can fish that stuff if you can support it. You just need the tools to terminate it. Open wall? Probably CPVC for the average guy. I can see PEX winning for new construction. Like you said, it's fast and easy. No need to be accurate with cuts or to carry an assortment of 45's, 90''s, etc. We added a prep sink to the island, so the only thing that slowed him down was the drain line. I do like the idea of having a manifold for water distribution. Something like this: https://www.supplyhouse.com/Viega-50250-VIEGA-1-2-18-Port-PolyAlloy-Crimp-MANABLOC-8-hot-10-cold?gclid=CjwKCAiAgc-ABhA7EiwAjev-j04b03p0kWgZftk48Z64s5An43mtjFleT-6pdl26f2VPavCD7ayPKhoCyXQQAvD_BwE A few years back I bought one of those PVC pipe cutters. It made me wonder why I fought it with a hacksaw for so long. A real CPVC crew goes pretty fast but I agree if you have the tools PEX is faster. I think the fittings may make it a push if you are buying them by the box. If I ever need to do a repipe it will be PEX because you can "fish" it PVC cutters are cool. I have had at least one since the first one I ever saw. This is PVC land so they get plenty of use. I also use PVC for lots of other stuff. It is a pretty cool material, particularly when used with the sheets. The cement works on that stuff too . I also use the cutters for other stuff. I have one in the kitchen for a few things like cutting off the knuckles on turkey legs and cutting up those twisty treat busy bones for the dog. If he hears the PVC cutter going, I have a friend. We used them in the flower store for lots of stuff too. You could knock the ends off of 2 dozen roses or a ****load of carnations in one "ticka ticka" operation with a pretty clean cut. It was also good for cutting up those bamboo sticks we used in stuff. Would something like that work to spatchcock a turkey? Probably not well. It is designed to cut round stuff. A ratchet cutter like that with a flat platten might work but I just use heavy duty kitchen shears for stuff like that. Never did a turkey but they cut up a chicken like butter. I do like the Julia Child trick of cutting off the ends of the drumsticks right where the meat starts before you cook it. Then the tendons will be poking out and you can pull them right out of there while you are letting the cooked bird rest. A PVC cutter is perfect for that. I've never heard of that idea. Will check it out. Now I may have to get a PVC cutter, although I suppose a bolt cutter would work for a turkey leg - unless it's a 40lb'er. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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John wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 09:43:55 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Saturday, January 30, 2021 at 9:54:20 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 00:58:40 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 06:07:21 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Friday, January 29, 2021 at 3:07:53 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 09:15:16 -0500 (EST), justan wrote: Wrote in message:r On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 05:07:30 -0800 (PST), wrote:On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 2:32:05 PM UTC-5, Bill wrote: wrote: On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 11:32:42 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 01:25:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing the ducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get there for a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipe to a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines, so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulous invention. Thanks for info. Never used 'em. Sharkbite connectors are great. Just be prepared for some sticker shock when you buy them. Pricey! Ended up a lot cheaper than the $180 an hour plumber.True. Our kitchen remodel included some plumbing work. Since I had hired a contractor for the job (a total rip-out down to sheetrock), a plumber was involved. He used sharkbite connectors to join PEX to the existing PVC.Why not just extend the existing (C)PVC to the place you need it. Justbe sure to use the brass drop ear flanges and brass shut off valves. Surely a plumber could handle pasting together that pipe. If you Google PEX vs CPVC you might find the answer. What ever answer you want. The guy from Flow Guard Gold says PEX sucks and the PEX guy has his story about price. (fast easy install). The reality is a production plumber who has the tools and the certified installers to maintain the warranty on PEX is going to win the bid on a big contract and everyone else is probably better off doing CPVC. YMMV depending on where you live and what plumbers do most there. Repipe? I am going PEX. You can fish that stuff if you can support it. You just need the tools to terminate it. Open wall? Probably CPVC for the average guy. I can see PEX winning for new construction. Like you said, it's fast and easy. No need to be accurate with cuts or to carry an assortment of 45's, 90''s, etc. We added a prep sink to the island, so the only thing that slowed him down was the drain line. I do like the idea of having a manifold for water distribution. Something like this: https://www.supplyhouse.com/Viega-50250-VIEGA-1-2-18-Port-PolyAlloy-Crimp-MANABLOC-8-hot-10-cold?gclid=CjwKCAiAgc-ABhA7EiwAjev-j04b03p0kWgZftk48Z64s5An43mtjFleT-6pdl26f2VPavCD7ayPKhoCyXQQAvD_BwE A few years back I bought one of those PVC pipe cutters. It made me wonder why I fought it with a hacksaw for so long. A real CPVC crew goes pretty fast but I agree if you have the tools PEX is faster. I think the fittings may make it a push if you are buying them by the box. If I ever need to do a repipe it will be PEX because you can "fish" it PVC cutters are cool. I have had at least one since the first one I ever saw. This is PVC land so they get plenty of use. I also use PVC for lots of other stuff. It is a pretty cool material, particularly when used with the sheets. The cement works on that stuff too . I also use the cutters for other stuff. I have one in the kitchen for a few things like cutting off the knuckles on turkey legs and cutting up those twisty treat busy bones for the dog. If he hears the PVC cutter going, I have a friend. We used them in the flower store for lots of stuff too. You could knock the ends off of 2 dozen roses or a ****load of carnations in one "ticka ticka" operation with a pretty clean cut. It was also good for cutting up those bamboo sticks we used in stuff. Would something like that work to spatchcock a turkey? -- Freedom Isn't Free! I seems to me that the jaws are too curved for that. Some decent kitchen shears would be good for that. https://www.lowes.com/pd/Kobalt-2-In-in-PVC-cutter/1002633490?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-plb-_-google-_-lia-_-208-_-plumbingtools-_-1002633490-_-0&placeholder=null&ds_rl=1286981&gclid=CjwKCAiApNS ABhAlEiwANuR9YI2KhqBVvt6qbGcv-v_1jncpAcnkzXwAsBtPB0Pm46nKdr_hFkN49BoC52EQAvD_BwE &gclsrc=aw.ds We have one of these, and they are pretty strong. https://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/store/product/j-a-henckels-international-robust-kitchen-shears/1011272690?skuId=11272690&poc=1016747530 I looked at this and learned all I wanted to know about PVC cutters! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5DJ6LXOTEc I think I'll stick with a hacksaw for PVC. The hardest part of spatchcocking a turkey is getting through the femur/ilium joint. Takes some knife work. Sometimes results in a bloody finger. But it's worth it. -- Freedom Isn't Free! I got a decent PVC a cutter from Homedepot at least 30 years ago. Still works and is a lot better than a saw. Only time I use a saw now is the Multitool if the plastic is broken in ground and lack of clearance. |
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On Sun, 31 Jan 2021 06:17:13 -0500, John wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 09:43:55 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Saturday, January 30, 2021 at 9:54:20 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 00:58:40 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 06:07:21 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Friday, January 29, 2021 at 3:07:53 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 09:15:16 -0500 (EST), justan wrote: Wrote in message:r On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 05:07:30 -0800 (PST), wrote:On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 2:32:05 PM UTC-5, Bill wrote: wrote: On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 11:32:42 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 01:25:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing the ducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get there for a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipe to a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines, so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulous invention. Thanks for info. Never used 'em. Sharkbite connectors are great. Just be prepared for some sticker shock when you buy them. Pricey! Ended up a lot cheaper than the $180 an hour plumber.True. Our kitchen remodel included some plumbing work. Since I had hired a contractor for the job (a total rip-out down to sheetrock), a plumber was involved. He used sharkbite connectors to join PEX to the existing PVC.Why not just extend the existing (C)PVC to the place you need it. Justbe sure to use the brass drop ear flanges and brass shut off valves. Surely a plumber could handle pasting together that pipe. If you Google PEX vs CPVC you might find the answer. What ever answer you want. The guy from Flow Guard Gold says PEX sucks and the PEX guy has his story about price. (fast easy install). The reality is a production plumber who has the tools and the certified installers to maintain the warranty on PEX is going to win the bid on a big contract and everyone else is probably better off doing CPVC. YMMV depending on where you live and what plumbers do most there. Repipe? I am going PEX. You can fish that stuff if you can support it. You just need the tools to terminate it. Open wall? Probably CPVC for the average guy. I can see PEX winning for new construction. Like you said, it's fast and easy. No need to be accurate with cuts or to carry an assortment of 45's, 90''s, etc. We added a prep sink to the island, so the only thing that slowed him down was the drain line. I do like the idea of having a manifold for water distribution. Something like this: https://www.supplyhouse.com/Viega-50250-VIEGA-1-2-18-Port-PolyAlloy-Crimp-MANABLOC-8-hot-10-cold?gclid=CjwKCAiAgc-ABhA7EiwAjev-j04b03p0kWgZftk48Z64s5An43mtjFleT-6pdl26f2VPavCD7ayPKhoCyXQQAvD_BwE A few years back I bought one of those PVC pipe cutters. It made me wonder why I fought it with a hacksaw for so long. A real CPVC crew goes pretty fast but I agree if you have the tools PEX is faster. I think the fittings may make it a push if you are buying them by the box. If I ever need to do a repipe it will be PEX because you can "fish" it PVC cutters are cool. I have had at least one since the first one I ever saw. This is PVC land so they get plenty of use. I also use PVC for lots of other stuff. It is a pretty cool material, particularly when used with the sheets. The cement works on that stuff too . I also use the cutters for other stuff. I have one in the kitchen for a few things like cutting off the knuckles on turkey legs and cutting up those twisty treat busy bones for the dog. If he hears the PVC cutter going, I have a friend. We used them in the flower store for lots of stuff too. You could knock the ends off of 2 dozen roses or a ****load of carnations in one "ticka ticka" operation with a pretty clean cut. It was also good for cutting up those bamboo sticks we used in stuff. Would something like that work to spatchcock a turkey? -- Freedom Isn't Free! I seems to me that the jaws are too curved for that. Some decent kitchen shears would be good for that. https://www.lowes.com/pd/Kobalt-2-In-in-PVC-cutter/1002633490?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-plb-_-google-_-lia-_-208-_-plumbingtools-_-1002633490-_-0&placeholder=null&ds_rl=1286981&gclid=CjwKCAiApNS ABhAlEiwANuR9YI2KhqBVvt6qbGcv-v_1jncpAcnkzXwAsBtPB0Pm46nKdr_hFkN49BoC52EQAvD_BwE &gclsrc=aw.ds We have one of these, and they are pretty strong. https://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/store/product/j-a-henckels-international-robust-kitchen-shears/1011272690?skuId=11272690&poc=1016747530 I looked at this and learned all I wanted to know about PVC cutters! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5DJ6LXOTEc I think I'll stick with a hacksaw for PVC. The hardest part of spatchcocking a turkey is getting through the femur/ilium joint. Takes some knife work. Sometimes results in a bloody finger. But it's worth it. All he proved is there are some ****ty PVC cutters out there. Buy a name brand that looks like #4, you have something. Also, cut with the blade side down. It makes that spring loaded thing unnecessary. Gravity actually works holding it that way. The biggest problem with a hacksaw is how it buggers up the end of the pipe. You really need to ream and clean it after a cut like that. PVC cutters cut clean. OTOH if I am doing a lot with big pipe, I use my table saw. Maybe even small pipe if I am cutting a bunch the same size. |
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On Sun, 31 Jan 2021 06:32:28 -0500, John wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 22:49:38 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 09:54:19 -0500, John wrote: On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 00:58:40 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 06:07:21 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Friday, January 29, 2021 at 3:07:53 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 09:15:16 -0500 (EST), justan wrote: Wrote in message:r On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 05:07:30 -0800 (PST), wrote:On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 2:32:05 PM UTC-5, Bill wrote: wrote: On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 11:32:42 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 01:25:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing the ducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get there for a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipe to a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines, so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulous invention. Thanks for info. Never used 'em. Sharkbite connectors are great. Just be prepared for some sticker shock when you buy them. Pricey! Ended up a lot cheaper than the $180 an hour plumber.True. Our kitchen remodel included some plumbing work. Since I had hired a contractor for the job (a total rip-out down to sheetrock), a plumber was involved. He used sharkbite connectors to join PEX to the existing PVC.Why not just extend the existing (C)PVC to the place you need it. Justbe sure to use the brass drop ear flanges and brass shut off valves. Surely a plumber could handle pasting together that pipe. If you Google PEX vs CPVC you might find the answer. What ever answer you want. The guy from Flow Guard Gold says PEX sucks and the PEX guy has his story about price. (fast easy install). The reality is a production plumber who has the tools and the certified installers to maintain the warranty on PEX is going to win the bid on a big contract and everyone else is probably better off doing CPVC. YMMV depending on where you live and what plumbers do most there. Repipe? I am going PEX. You can fish that stuff if you can support it. You just need the tools to terminate it. Open wall? Probably CPVC for the average guy. I can see PEX winning for new construction. Like you said, it's fast and easy. No need to be accurate with cuts or to carry an assortment of 45's, 90''s, etc. We added a prep sink to the island, so the only thing that slowed him down was the drain line. I do like the idea of having a manifold for water distribution. Something like this: https://www.supplyhouse.com/Viega-50250-VIEGA-1-2-18-Port-PolyAlloy-Crimp-MANABLOC-8-hot-10-cold?gclid=CjwKCAiAgc-ABhA7EiwAjev-j04b03p0kWgZftk48Z64s5An43mtjFleT-6pdl26f2VPavCD7ayPKhoCyXQQAvD_BwE A few years back I bought one of those PVC pipe cutters. It made me wonder why I fought it with a hacksaw for so long. A real CPVC crew goes pretty fast but I agree if you have the tools PEX is faster. I think the fittings may make it a push if you are buying them by the box. If I ever need to do a repipe it will be PEX because you can "fish" it PVC cutters are cool. I have had at least one since the first one I ever saw. This is PVC land so they get plenty of use. I also use PVC for lots of other stuff. It is a pretty cool material, particularly when used with the sheets. The cement works on that stuff too . I also use the cutters for other stuff. I have one in the kitchen for a few things like cutting off the knuckles on turkey legs and cutting up those twisty treat busy bones for the dog. If he hears the PVC cutter going, I have a friend. We used them in the flower store for lots of stuff too. You could knock the ends off of 2 dozen roses or a ****load of carnations in one "ticka ticka" operation with a pretty clean cut. It was also good for cutting up those bamboo sticks we used in stuff. Would something like that work to spatchcock a turkey? Probably not well. It is designed to cut round stuff. A ratchet cutter like that with a flat platten might work but I just use heavy duty kitchen shears for stuff like that. Never did a turkey but they cut up a chicken like butter. I do like the Julia Child trick of cutting off the ends of the drumsticks right where the meat starts before you cook it. Then the tendons will be poking out and you can pull them right out of there while you are letting the cooked bird rest. A PVC cutter is perfect for that. I've never heard of that idea. Will check it out. Now I may have to get a PVC cutter, although I suppose a bolt cutter would work for a turkey leg - unless it's a 40lb'er. Julia does it with a cleaver. |
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On Sun, 31 Jan 2021 18:28:51 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: John wrote: On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 09:43:55 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Saturday, January 30, 2021 at 9:54:20 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 00:58:40 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 06:07:21 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Friday, January 29, 2021 at 3:07:53 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 09:15:16 -0500 (EST), justan wrote: Wrote in message:r On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 05:07:30 -0800 (PST), wrote:On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 2:32:05 PM UTC-5, Bill wrote: wrote: On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 11:32:42 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 01:25:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing the ducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get there for a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipe to a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines, so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulous invention. Thanks for info. Never used 'em. Sharkbite connectors are great. Just be prepared for some sticker shock when you buy them. Pricey! Ended up a lot cheaper than the $180 an hour plumber.True. Our kitchen remodel included some plumbing work. Since I had hired a contractor for the job (a total rip-out down to sheetrock), a plumber was involved. He used sharkbite connectors to join PEX to the existing PVC.Why not just extend the existing (C)PVC to the place you need it. Justbe sure to use the brass drop ear flanges and brass shut off valves. Surely a plumber could handle pasting together that pipe. If you Google PEX vs CPVC you might find the answer. What ever answer you want. The guy from Flow Guard Gold says PEX sucks and the PEX guy has his story about price. (fast easy install). The reality is a production plumber who has the tools and the certified installers to maintain the warranty on PEX is going to win the bid on a big contract and everyone else is probably better off doing CPVC. YMMV depending on where you live and what plumbers do most there. Repipe? I am going PEX. You can fish that stuff if you can support it. You just need the tools to terminate it. Open wall? Probably CPVC for the average guy. I can see PEX winning for new construction. Like you said, it's fast and easy. No need to be accurate with cuts or to carry an assortment of 45's, 90''s, etc. We added a prep sink to the island, so the only thing that slowed him down was the drain line. I do like the idea of having a manifold for water distribution. Something like this: https://www.supplyhouse.com/Viega-50250-VIEGA-1-2-18-Port-PolyAlloy-Crimp-MANABLOC-8-hot-10-cold?gclid=CjwKCAiAgc-ABhA7EiwAjev-j04b03p0kWgZftk48Z64s5An43mtjFleT-6pdl26f2VPavCD7ayPKhoCyXQQAvD_BwE A few years back I bought one of those PVC pipe cutters. It made me wonder why I fought it with a hacksaw for so long. A real CPVC crew goes pretty fast but I agree if you have the tools PEX is faster. I think the fittings may make it a push if you are buying them by the box. If I ever need to do a repipe it will be PEX because you can "fish" it PVC cutters are cool. I have had at least one since the first one I ever saw. This is PVC land so they get plenty of use. I also use PVC for lots of other stuff. It is a pretty cool material, particularly when used with the sheets. The cement works on that stuff too . I also use the cutters for other stuff. I have one in the kitchen for a few things like cutting off the knuckles on turkey legs and cutting up those twisty treat busy bones for the dog. If he hears the PVC cutter going, I have a friend. We used them in the flower store for lots of stuff too. You could knock the ends off of 2 dozen roses or a ****load of carnations in one "ticka ticka" operation with a pretty clean cut. It was also good for cutting up those bamboo sticks we used in stuff. Would something like that work to spatchcock a turkey? -- Freedom Isn't Free! I seems to me that the jaws are too curved for that. Some decent kitchen shears would be good for that. https://www.lowes.com/pd/Kobalt-2-In-in-PVC-cutter/1002633490?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-plb-_-google-_-lia-_-208-_-plumbingtools-_-1002633490-_-0&placeholder=null&ds_rl=1286981&gclid=CjwKCAiApNS ABhAlEiwANuR9YI2KhqBVvt6qbGcv-v_1jncpAcnkzXwAsBtPB0Pm46nKdr_hFkN49BoC52EQAvD_BwE &gclsrc=aw.ds We have one of these, and they are pretty strong. https://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/store/product/j-a-henckels-international-robust-kitchen-shears/1011272690?skuId=11272690&poc=1016747530 I looked at this and learned all I wanted to know about PVC cutters! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5DJ6LXOTEc I think I'll stick with a hacksaw for PVC. The hardest part of spatchcocking a turkey is getting through the femur/ilium joint. Takes some knife work. Sometimes results in a bloody finger. But it's worth it. -- Freedom Isn't Free! I got a decent PVC a cutter from Homedepot at least 30 years ago. Still works and is a lot better than a saw. Only time I use a saw now is the Multitool if the plastic is broken in ground and lack of clearance. You can do that with nylon layout string but the steel cable saw works longer. The string usually only gets you one cut but you probably have it on the job. I have a couple of the cable saws. They do break eventually. The real trick is having the touch to get it started in the right spot and keep the cut straight. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-PV...-111/304583909 There are lots of models tho. They all work the same. I like to keep one with the hose over a loop because you can really get them in a tight spot. https://www.homedepot.com/p/General-...-858/300707431 |
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On Sun, 31 Jan 2021 18:28:51 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: John wrote: On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 09:43:55 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Saturday, January 30, 2021 at 9:54:20 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 00:58:40 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 06:07:21 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Friday, January 29, 2021 at 3:07:53 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 09:15:16 -0500 (EST), justan wrote: Wrote in message:r On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 05:07:30 -0800 (PST), wrote:On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 2:32:05 PM UTC-5, Bill wrote: wrote: On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 11:32:42 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 01:25:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing the ducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get there for a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipe to a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines, so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulous invention. Thanks for info. Never used 'em. Sharkbite connectors are great. Just be prepared for some sticker shock when you buy them. Pricey! Ended up a lot cheaper than the $180 an hour plumber.True. Our kitchen remodel included some plumbing work. Since I had hired a contractor for the job (a total rip-out down to sheetrock), a plumber was involved. He used sharkbite connectors to join PEX to the existing PVC.Why not just extend the existing (C)PVC to the place you need it. Justbe sure to use the brass drop ear flanges and brass shut off valves. Surely a plumber could handle pasting together that pipe. If you Google PEX vs CPVC you might find the answer. What ever answer you want. The guy from Flow Guard Gold says PEX sucks and the PEX guy has his story about price. (fast easy install). The reality is a production plumber who has the tools and the certified installers to maintain the warranty on PEX is going to win the bid on a big contract and everyone else is probably better off doing CPVC. YMMV depending on where you live and what plumbers do most there. Repipe? I am going PEX. You can fish that stuff if you can support it. You just need the tools to terminate it. Open wall? Probably CPVC for the average guy. I can see PEX winning for new construction. Like you said, it's fast and easy. No need to be accurate with cuts or to carry an assortment of 45's, 90''s, etc. We added a prep sink to the island, so the only thing that slowed him down was the drain line. I do like the idea of having a manifold for water distribution. Something like this: https://www.supplyhouse.com/Viega-50250-VIEGA-1-2-18-Port-PolyAlloy-Crimp-MANABLOC-8-hot-10-cold?gclid=CjwKCAiAgc-ABhA7EiwAjev-j04b03p0kWgZftk48Z64s5An43mtjFleT-6pdl26f2VPavCD7ayPKhoCyXQQAvD_BwE A few years back I bought one of those PVC pipe cutters. It made me wonder why I fought it with a hacksaw for so long. A real CPVC crew goes pretty fast but I agree if you have the tools PEX is faster. I think the fittings may make it a push if you are buying them by the box. If I ever need to do a repipe it will be PEX because you can "fish" it PVC cutters are cool. I have had at least one since the first one I ever saw. This is PVC land so they get plenty of use. I also use PVC for lots of other stuff. It is a pretty cool material, particularly when used with the sheets. The cement works on that stuff too . I also use the cutters for other stuff. I have one in the kitchen for a few things like cutting off the knuckles on turkey legs and cutting up those twisty treat busy bones for the dog. If he hears the PVC cutter going, I have a friend. We used them in the flower store for lots of stuff too. You could knock the ends off of 2 dozen roses or a ****load of carnations in one "ticka ticka" operation with a pretty clean cut. It was also good for cutting up those bamboo sticks we used in stuff. Would something like that work to spatchcock a turkey? -- Freedom Isn't Free! I seems to me that the jaws are too curved for that. Some decent kitchen shears would be good for that. https://www.lowes.com/pd/Kobalt-2-In-in-PVC-cutter/1002633490?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-plb-_-google-_-lia-_-208-_-plumbingtools-_-1002633490-_-0&placeholder=null&ds_rl=1286981&gclid=CjwKCAiApNS ABhAlEiwANuR9YI2KhqBVvt6qbGcv-v_1jncpAcnkzXwAsBtPB0Pm46nKdr_hFkN49BoC52EQAvD_BwE &gclsrc=aw.ds We have one of these, and they are pretty strong. https://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/store/product/j-a-henckels-international-robust-kitchen-shears/1011272690?skuId=11272690&poc=1016747530 I looked at this and learned all I wanted to know about PVC cutters! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5DJ6LXOTEc I think I'll stick with a hacksaw for PVC. The hardest part of spatchcocking a turkey is getting through the femur/ilium joint. Takes some knife work. Sometimes results in a bloody finger. But it's worth it. -- Freedom Isn't Free! I got a decent PVC a cutter from Homedepot at least 30 years ago. Still works and is a lot better than a saw. Only time I use a saw now is the Multitool if the plastic is broken in ground and lack of clearance. You can do that with nylon layout string but the steel cable saw works longer. The string usually only gets you one cut but you probably have it on the job. I have a couple of the cable saws. They do break eventually. The real trick is having the touch to get it started in the right spot and keep the cut straight. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-PV...-111/304583909 There are lots of models tho. They all work the same. I like to keep one with the hose over a loop because you can really get them in a tight spot. https://www.homedepot.com/p/General-...-858/300707431 To me the cable saw seems to curl up and be pretty worthless quickly. An oscillating multitool with a decent blade is quick and compact. And leaves a much smoother end than a hacksaw. |
plumbng issues
On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 04:28:06 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: wrote: On Sun, 31 Jan 2021 18:28:51 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: John wrote: On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 09:43:55 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Saturday, January 30, 2021 at 9:54:20 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 00:58:40 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 06:07:21 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Friday, January 29, 2021 at 3:07:53 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 09:15:16 -0500 (EST), justan wrote: Wrote in message:r On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 05:07:30 -0800 (PST), wrote:On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 2:32:05 PM UTC-5, Bill wrote: wrote: On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 11:32:42 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 01:25:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing the ducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get there for a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipe to a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines, so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulous invention. Thanks for info. Never used 'em. Sharkbite connectors are great. Just be prepared for some sticker shock when you buy them. Pricey! Ended up a lot cheaper than the $180 an hour plumber.True. Our kitchen remodel included some plumbing work. Since I had hired a contractor for the job (a total rip-out down to sheetrock), a plumber was involved. He used sharkbite connectors to join PEX to the existing PVC.Why not just extend the existing (C)PVC to the place you need it. Justbe sure to use the brass drop ear flanges and brass shut off valves. Surely a plumber could handle pasting together that pipe. If you Google PEX vs CPVC you might find the answer. What ever answer you want. The guy from Flow Guard Gold says PEX sucks and the PEX guy has his story about price. (fast easy install). The reality is a production plumber who has the tools and the certified installers to maintain the warranty on PEX is going to win the bid on a big contract and everyone else is probably better off doing CPVC. YMMV depending on where you live and what plumbers do most there. Repipe? I am going PEX. You can fish that stuff if you can support it. You just need the tools to terminate it. Open wall? Probably CPVC for the average guy. I can see PEX winning for new construction. Like you said, it's fast and easy. No need to be accurate with cuts or to carry an assortment of 45's, 90''s, etc. We added a prep sink to the island, so the only thing that slowed him down was the drain line. I do like the idea of having a manifold for water distribution. Something like this: https://www.supplyhouse.com/Viega-50250-VIEGA-1-2-18-Port-PolyAlloy-Crimp-MANABLOC-8-hot-10-cold?gclid=CjwKCAiAgc-ABhA7EiwAjev-j04b03p0kWgZftk48Z64s5An43mtjFleT-6pdl26f2VPavCD7ayPKhoCyXQQAvD_BwE A few years back I bought one of those PVC pipe cutters. It made me wonder why I fought it with a hacksaw for so long. A real CPVC crew goes pretty fast but I agree if you have the tools PEX is faster. I think the fittings may make it a push if you are buying them by the box. If I ever need to do a repipe it will be PEX because you can "fish" it PVC cutters are cool. I have had at least one since the first one I ever saw. This is PVC land so they get plenty of use. I also use PVC for lots of other stuff. It is a pretty cool material, particularly when used with the sheets. The cement works on that stuff too . I also use the cutters for other stuff. I have one in the kitchen for a few things like cutting off the knuckles on turkey legs and cutting up those twisty treat busy bones for the dog. If he hears the PVC cutter going, I have a friend. We used them in the flower store for lots of stuff too. You could knock the ends off of 2 dozen roses or a ****load of carnations in one "ticka ticka" operation with a pretty clean cut. It was also good for cutting up those bamboo sticks we used in stuff. Would something like that work to spatchcock a turkey? -- Freedom Isn't Free! I seems to me that the jaws are too curved for that. Some decent kitchen shears would be good for that. https://www.lowes.com/pd/Kobalt-2-In-in-PVC-cutter/1002633490?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-plb-_-google-_-lia-_-208-_-plumbingtools-_-1002633490-_-0&placeholder=null&ds_rl=1286981&gclid=CjwKCAiApNS ABhAlEiwANuR9YI2KhqBVvt6qbGcv-v_1jncpAcnkzXwAsBtPB0Pm46nKdr_hFkN49BoC52EQAvD_BwE &gclsrc=aw.ds We have one of these, and they are pretty strong. https://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/store/product/j-a-henckels-international-robust-kitchen-shears/1011272690?skuId=11272690&poc=1016747530 I looked at this and learned all I wanted to know about PVC cutters! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5DJ6LXOTEc I think I'll stick with a hacksaw for PVC. The hardest part of spatchcocking a turkey is getting through the femur/ilium joint. Takes some knife work. Sometimes results in a bloody finger. But it's worth it. -- Freedom Isn't Free! I got a decent PVC a cutter from Homedepot at least 30 years ago. Still works and is a lot better than a saw. Only time I use a saw now is the Multitool if the plastic is broken in ground and lack of clearance. You can do that with nylon layout string but the steel cable saw works longer. The string usually only gets you one cut but you probably have it on the job. I have a couple of the cable saws. They do break eventually. The real trick is having the touch to get it started in the right spot and keep the cut straight. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-PV...-111/304583909 There are lots of models tho. They all work the same. I like to keep one with the hose over a loop because you can really get them in a tight spot. https://www.homedepot.com/p/General-...-858/300707431 To me the cable saw seems to curl up and be pretty worthless quickly. An oscillating multitool with a decent blade is quick and compact. And leaves a much smoother end than a hacksaw. That is why the old timers just use the nylon string. You just have to keep it moving, bringing up new string as you cut. I am not sure an oscillating tool would get to all of 2". |
plumbng issues
On Sun, 31 Jan 2021 23:02:48 -0500, wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jan 2021 06:32:28 -0500, John wrote: On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 22:49:38 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 09:54:19 -0500, John wrote: On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 00:58:40 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 06:07:21 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Friday, January 29, 2021 at 3:07:53 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 09:15:16 -0500 (EST), justan wrote: Wrote in message:r On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 05:07:30 -0800 (PST), wrote:On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 2:32:05 PM UTC-5, Bill wrote: wrote: On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 11:32:42 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 01:25:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing the ducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get there for a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipe to a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines, so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulous invention. Thanks for info. Never used 'em. Sharkbite connectors are great. Just be prepared for some sticker shock when you buy them. Pricey! Ended up a lot cheaper than the $180 an hour plumber.True. Our kitchen remodel included some plumbing work. Since I had hired a contractor for the job (a total rip-out down to sheetrock), a plumber was involved. He used sharkbite connectors to join PEX to the existing PVC.Why not just extend the existing (C)PVC to the place you need it. Justbe sure to use the brass drop ear flanges and brass shut off valves. Surely a plumber could handle pasting together that pipe. If you Google PEX vs CPVC you might find the answer. What ever answer you want. The guy from Flow Guard Gold says PEX sucks and the PEX guy has his story about price. (fast easy install). The reality is a production plumber who has the tools and the certified installers to maintain the warranty on PEX is going to win the bid on a big contract and everyone else is probably better off doing CPVC. YMMV depending on where you live and what plumbers do most there. Repipe? I am going PEX. You can fish that stuff if you can support it. You just need the tools to terminate it. Open wall? Probably CPVC for the average guy. I can see PEX winning for new construction. Like you said, it's fast and easy. No need to be accurate with cuts or to carry an assortment of 45's, 90''s, etc. We added a prep sink to the island, so the only thing that slowed him down was the drain line. I do like the idea of having a manifold for water distribution. Something like this: https://www.supplyhouse.com/Viega-50250-VIEGA-1-2-18-Port-PolyAlloy-Crimp-MANABLOC-8-hot-10-cold?gclid=CjwKCAiAgc-ABhA7EiwAjev-j04b03p0kWgZftk48Z64s5An43mtjFleT-6pdl26f2VPavCD7ayPKhoCyXQQAvD_BwE A few years back I bought one of those PVC pipe cutters. It made me wonder why I fought it with a hacksaw for so long. A real CPVC crew goes pretty fast but I agree if you have the tools PEX is faster. I think the fittings may make it a push if you are buying them by the box. If I ever need to do a repipe it will be PEX because you can "fish" it PVC cutters are cool. I have had at least one since the first one I ever saw. This is PVC land so they get plenty of use. I also use PVC for lots of other stuff. It is a pretty cool material, particularly when used with the sheets. The cement works on that stuff too . I also use the cutters for other stuff. I have one in the kitchen for a few things like cutting off the knuckles on turkey legs and cutting up those twisty treat busy bones for the dog. If he hears the PVC cutter going, I have a friend. We used them in the flower store for lots of stuff too. You could knock the ends off of 2 dozen roses or a ****load of carnations in one "ticka ticka" operation with a pretty clean cut. It was also good for cutting up those bamboo sticks we used in stuff. Would something like that work to spatchcock a turkey? Probably not well. It is designed to cut round stuff. A ratchet cutter like that with a flat platten might work but I just use heavy duty kitchen shears for stuff like that. Never did a turkey but they cut up a chicken like butter. I do like the Julia Child trick of cutting off the ends of the drumsticks right where the meat starts before you cook it. Then the tendons will be poking out and you can pull them right out of there while you are letting the cooked bird rest. A PVC cutter is perfect for that. I've never heard of that idea. Will check it out. Now I may have to get a PVC cutter, although I suppose a bolt cutter would work for a turkey leg - unless it's a 40lb'er. Julia does it with a cleaver. Nope, don't want to cut through the bone, want to cut through the joint and leave the bones intact. Does she spatchcock turkeys? -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
plumbng issues
On Mon, 01 Feb 2021 18:04:33 -0500, John wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jan 2021 23:02:48 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 31 Jan 2021 06:32:28 -0500, John wrote: On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 22:49:38 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 09:54:19 -0500, John wrote: On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 00:58:40 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 06:07:21 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Friday, January 29, 2021 at 3:07:53 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 09:15:16 -0500 (EST), justan wrote: Wrote in message:r On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 05:07:30 -0800 (PST), wrote:On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 2:32:05 PM UTC-5, Bill wrote: wrote: On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 11:32:42 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 01:25:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing the ducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get there for a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipe to a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines, so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulous invention. Thanks for info. Never used 'em. Sharkbite connectors are great. Just be prepared for some sticker shock when you buy them. Pricey! Ended up a lot cheaper than the $180 an hour plumber.True. Our kitchen remodel included some plumbing work. Since I had hired a contractor for the job (a total rip-out down to sheetrock), a plumber was involved. He used sharkbite connectors to join PEX to the existing PVC.Why not just extend the existing (C)PVC to the place you need it. Justbe sure to use the brass drop ear flanges and brass shut off valves. Surely a plumber could handle pasting together that pipe. If you Google PEX vs CPVC you might find the answer. What ever answer you want. The guy from Flow Guard Gold says PEX sucks and the PEX guy has his story about price. (fast easy install). The reality is a production plumber who has the tools and the certified installers to maintain the warranty on PEX is going to win the bid on a big contract and everyone else is probably better off doing CPVC. YMMV depending on where you live and what plumbers do most there. Repipe? I am going PEX. You can fish that stuff if you can support it. You just need the tools to terminate it. Open wall? Probably CPVC for the average guy. I can see PEX winning for new construction. Like you said, it's fast and easy. No need to be accurate with cuts or to carry an assortment of 45's, 90''s, etc. We added a prep sink to the island, so the only thing that slowed him down was the drain line. I do like the idea of having a manifold for water distribution. Something like this: https://www.supplyhouse.com/Viega-50250-VIEGA-1-2-18-Port-PolyAlloy-Crimp-MANABLOC-8-hot-10-cold?gclid=CjwKCAiAgc-ABhA7EiwAjev-j04b03p0kWgZftk48Z64s5An43mtjFleT-6pdl26f2VPavCD7ayPKhoCyXQQAvD_BwE A few years back I bought one of those PVC pipe cutters. It made me wonder why I fought it with a hacksaw for so long. A real CPVC crew goes pretty fast but I agree if you have the tools PEX is faster. I think the fittings may make it a push if you are buying them by the box. If I ever need to do a repipe it will be PEX because you can "fish" it PVC cutters are cool. I have had at least one since the first one I ever saw. This is PVC land so they get plenty of use. I also use PVC for lots of other stuff. It is a pretty cool material, particularly when used with the sheets. The cement works on that stuff too . I also use the cutters for other stuff. I have one in the kitchen for a few things like cutting off the knuckles on turkey legs and cutting up those twisty treat busy bones for the dog. If he hears the PVC cutter going, I have a friend. We used them in the flower store for lots of stuff too. You could knock the ends off of 2 dozen roses or a ****load of carnations in one "ticka ticka" operation with a pretty clean cut. It was also good for cutting up those bamboo sticks we used in stuff. Would something like that work to spatchcock a turkey? Probably not well. It is designed to cut round stuff. A ratchet cutter like that with a flat platten might work but I just use heavy duty kitchen shears for stuff like that. Never did a turkey but they cut up a chicken like butter. I do like the Julia Child trick of cutting off the ends of the drumsticks right where the meat starts before you cook it. Then the tendons will be poking out and you can pull them right out of there while you are letting the cooked bird rest. A PVC cutter is perfect for that. I've never heard of that idea. Will check it out. Now I may have to get a PVC cutter, although I suppose a bolt cutter would work for a turkey leg - unless it's a 40lb'er. Julia does it with a cleaver. Nope, don't want to cut through the bone, want to cut through the joint and leave the bones intact. Does she spatchcock turkeys? I was talking about cutting off the end of the drumstick. I suppose she would break the joint and separate the cartilage with a knife like you do. She did something like that when she was prepping the turkey but I don't remember the details. I know before it went in the oven it didn't look like the Norman Rockwell turkey but it cooked evenly. It looked like too much work to me. I did like the idea of getting the tendons out tho. It makes it a lot easier to recover the drumstick meat for the platter. |
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