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On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 05:07:30 -0800 (PST), wrote:On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 2:32:05 PM UTC-5, Bill wrote: wrote: On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 11:32:42 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 01:25:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing the ducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get there for a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipe to a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines, so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulous invention. Thanks for info. Never used 'em. Sharkbite connectors are great. Just be prepared for some sticker shock when you buy them. Pricey! Ended up a lot cheaper than the $180 an hour
plumber.True.
Our kitchen remodel included some plumbing work. Since I had hired a contractor for the job (a total rip-out down to sheetrock), a plumber was involved. He used sharkbite connectors to join PEX to the existing PVC.Why not just extend the existing (C)PVC to the place you need it. Justbe sure to use the brass drop ear flanges and brass shut off valves. Surely a plumber could handle pasting together that pipe.

If you Google PEX vs CPVC you might find the answer.
What ever answer you want.
The guy from Flow Guard Gold says PEX sucks and the PEX guy has his
story about price. (fast easy install).
The reality is a production plumber who has the tools and the
certified installers to maintain the warranty on PEX is going to win
the bid on a big contract and everyone else is probably better off
doing CPVC.
YMMV depending on where you live and what plumbers do most there.
Repipe? I am going PEX. You can fish that stuff if you can support it.
You just need the tools to terminate it.
Open wall? Probably CPVC for the average guy.

I can see PEX winning for new construction. Like you said, it's fast and easy. No need to be accurate with cuts or to carry an assortment of 45's, 90''s, etc. We added a prep sink to the island, so the only thing that slowed him down was the drain line.

I do like the idea of having a manifold for water distribution. Something like this:
https://www.supplyhouse.com/Viega-50250-VIEGA-1-2-18-Port-PolyAlloy-Crimp-MANABLOC-8-hot-10-cold?gclid=CjwKCAiAgc-ABhA7EiwAjev-j04b03p0kWgZftk48Z64s5An43mtjFleT-6pdl26f2VPavCD7ayPKhoCyXQQAvD_BwE

A few years back I bought one of those PVC pipe cutters. It made me wonder why I fought it with a hacksaw for so long.

A real CPVC crew goes pretty fast but I agree if you have the tools
PEX is faster. I think the fittings may make it a push if you are
buying them by the box.
If I ever need to do a repipe it will be PEX because you can "fish" it

PVC cutters are cool. I have had at least one since the first one I
ever saw. This is PVC land so they get plenty of use. I also use PVC
for lots of other stuff. It is a pretty cool material, particularly
when used with the sheets. The cement works on that stuff too
.
I also use the cutters for other stuff. I have one in the kitchen for
a few things like cutting off the knuckles on turkey legs and cutting
up those twisty treat busy bones for the dog. If he hears the PVC
cutter going, I have a friend.

We used them in the flower store for lots of stuff too. You could
knock the ends off of 2 dozen roses or a ****load of carnations in one
"ticka ticka" operation with a pretty clean cut. It was also good for
cutting up those bamboo sticks we used in stuff.

Would something like that work to spatchcock a turkey?

Probably not well. It is designed to cut round stuff. A ratchet cutter
like that with a flat platten might work but I just use heavy duty
kitchen shears for stuff like that. Never did a turkey but they cut up
a chicken like butter.
I do like the Julia Child trick of cutting off the ends of the
drumsticks right where the meat starts before you cook it. Then the
tendons will be poking out and you can pull them right out of there
while you are letting the cooked bird rest. A PVC cutter is perfect
for that.

I've never heard of that idea. Will check it out. Now I may have to get a PVC
cutter, although I suppose a bolt cutter would work for a turkey leg - unless
it's a 40lb'er.

Julia does it with a cleaver.

Nope, don't want to cut through the bone, want to cut through the joint and
leave the bones intact.

Does she spatchcock turkeys?
I was talking about cutting off the end of the drumstick.

I suppose she would break the joint and separate the cartilage with a
knife like you do. She did something like that when she was prepping
the turkey but I don't remember the details. I know before it went in
the oven it didn't look like the Norman Rockwell turkey but it cooked
evenly. It looked like too much work to me. I did like the idea of
getting the tendons out tho. It makes it a lot easier to recover the
drumstick meat for the platter.

Does she remove the tendons before or after cooking?

After, they just pull right out. I use long nose pliers by I assume
you can use your fingers. Cutting the end off lets them stick out and
easy to pull after the meat cooks.

My next turkey will get the legs trimmed and tendons pulled. Great tip. I don't
have a PVC cutter, but I reckon a bolt cutter will do.

Julia uses a cleaver

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