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John[_6_] January 22nd 21 01:15 AM

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Or, Wayne and Harry, are these just 'peaceful protests' instigated by Trump?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/u...tle-biden.html

https://www.wsj.com/articles/inaugur...nt-11611260877

How do you explain that ****? Note that a Federal courthouse was attacked, but
no one was shot.

Wow.
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[email protected] January 22nd 21 03:33 AM

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On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:15:08 -0500, John wrote:

Or, Wayne and Harry, are these just 'peaceful protests' instigated by Trump?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/u...tle-biden.html

https://www.wsj.com/articles/inaugur...nt-11611260877

How do you explain that ****? Note that a Federal courthouse was attacked, but
no one was shot.

Wow.


No one was charged with insurrection either. Harry isn't even accusing
them of it.
I don't really care either way, just be consistent.

Wayne B January 22nd 21 04:37 AM

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On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:15:08 -0500, John wrote:

Or, Wayne and Harry, are these just 'peaceful protests' instigated by Trump?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/u...tle-biden.html

https://www.wsj.com/articles/inaugur...nt-11611260877

How do you explain that ****? Note that a Federal courthouse was attacked, but
no one was shot.

Wow.


===

Wow indeed. Were there members of congress inside the courthouse
trying to carry out the constitutional process of certifying the
presidential electoral college votes? Were the rioters incited by the
POTUS in an attempt to overturn his election defeat?

None of that excuses mob violence of course, no matter where and why
it happens. I'm also thinking that Portland needs to make a concerted
effort to identify and arrest some of these hooligans. I suspect
they've got a hard core group of repeat offenders that should be dealt
with.

justan January 22nd 21 12:18 PM

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Wayne B Wrote in message:r
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:15:08 -0500, John wrote:Or, Wayne and Harry, are these just 'peaceful protests' instigated by Trump?https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/us/protests-portland-seattle-biden.htmlhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/inauguration-day-protests-in-portland-seattle-turned-violent-11611260877How do you explain that ****? Note that a Federal courthouse was attacked, butno one was shot.Wow.===Wow indeed. Were there members of congress inside the courthousetrying to carry out the constitutional process of certifying thepresidential electoral college votes? Were the rioters incited by thePOTUS in an attempt to overturn his election defeat?None of that excuses mob violence of course, no matter where and whyit happens. I'm also thinking that Portland needs to make a concertedeffort to identify and arrest some of these hooligans. I suspectthey've got a hard core group of repeat offenders that should be dealtwith.


Do we have any numbers yet on the dwindling population of NYC, NY
State, California, and Washington State. Just curious. My
unscientific poll says a significant number of NYers and Fornians
are moving to Florida.
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John[_6_] January 22nd 21 12:43 PM

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On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 23:37:15 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:15:08 -0500, John wrote:

Or, Wayne and Harry, are these just 'peaceful protests' instigated by Trump?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/u...tle-biden.html

https://www.wsj.com/articles/inaugur...nt-11611260877

How do you explain that ****? Note that a Federal courthouse was attacked, but
no one was shot.

Wow.


===

Wow indeed. Were there members of congress inside the courthouse
trying to carry out the constitutional process of certifying the
presidential electoral college votes? Were the rioters incited by the
POTUS in an attempt to overturn his election defeat?

None of that excuses mob violence of course, no matter where and why
it happens. I'm also thinking that Portland needs to make a concerted
effort to identify and arrest some of these hooligans. I suspect
they've got a hard core group of repeat offenders that should be dealt
with.


No, they were just rioting, Wayne.

Funny. Go to CNN.com or Washingtonpost.com and search for 'Portland riot'.
Nothing. If the news doesn't support the liberal position, just don't report it.
Now do the same with ABC. Do you see the difference?
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Wayne B January 22nd 21 03:35 PM

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On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 07:18:12 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Wayne B Wrote in message:r
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:15:08 -0500, John wrote:Or, Wayne and Harry, are these just 'peaceful protests' instigated by Trump?https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/us/protests-portland-seattle-biden.htmlhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/inauguration-day-protests-in-portland-seattle-turned-violent-11611260877How do you explain that ****? Note that a Federal courthouse was attacked, butno one was shot.Wow.===Wow indeed. Were there members of congress inside the courthousetrying to carry out the constitutional process of certifying thepresidential electoral college votes? Were the rioters incited by thePOTUS in an attempt to overturn his election defeat?None of that excuses mob violence of course, no matter where and whyit happens. I'm also thinking that Portland needs to make a concertedeffort to identify and arrest some of these hooligans. I suspectthey've got a hard core group of repeat offenders that should be dealtwith.


Do we have any numbers yet on the dwindling population of NYC, NY
State, California, and Washington State. Just curious. My
unscientific poll says a significant number of NYers and Fornians
are moving to Florida.


===

Florida has been a popular retirement destination for New Yorkers for
more than 70 years. Over here on the left coast most of our newcomers
are from the mid-west. I call it the I-75 pipeline effect. There has
definitely been a move out of New York City. Between Covid, high tax
rates and crime, there have been a lot of reasons to leave. My oldest
son and his wife have done that, turning their summer home out east
into their year round residence, and working from home.

Wayne B January 22nd 21 03:43 PM

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On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 07:43:13 -0500, John wrote:

On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 23:37:15 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:15:08 -0500, John wrote:

Or, Wayne and Harry, are these just 'peaceful protests' instigated by Trump?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/u...tle-biden.html

https://www.wsj.com/articles/inaugur...nt-11611260877

How do you explain that ****? Note that a Federal courthouse was attacked, but
no one was shot.

Wow.


===

Wow indeed. Were there members of congress inside the courthouse
trying to carry out the constitutional process of certifying the
presidential electoral college votes? Were the rioters incited by the
POTUS in an attempt to overturn his election defeat?

None of that excuses mob violence of course, no matter where and why
it happens. I'm also thinking that Portland needs to make a concerted
effort to identify and arrest some of these hooligans. I suspect
they've got a hard core group of repeat offenders that should be dealt
with.


No, they were just rioting, Wayne.

Funny. Go to CNN.com or Washingtonpost.com and search for 'Portland riot'.
Nothing. If the news doesn't support the liberal position, just don't report it.
Now do the same with ABC. Do you see the difference?


===

It may give you some personal comfort to draw parallels between the
Portland riots and Trump's capitol insurrection, but most people
recognize that there is a huge difference. I do think that Portland
needs to start taking names and kicking ass however.

Keyser Söze[_3_] January 22nd 21 03:56 PM

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On 1/22/21 10:35 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 07:18:12 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Wayne B Wrote in message:r
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:15:08 -0500, John wrote:Or, Wayne and Harry, are these just 'peaceful protests' instigated by Trump?https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/us/protests-portland-seattle-biden.htmlhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/inauguration-day-protests-in-portland-seattle-turned-violent-11611260877How do you explain that ****? Note that a Federal courthouse was attacked, butno one was shot.Wow.===Wow indeed. Were there members of congress inside the courthousetrying to carry out the constitutional process of certifying thepresidential electoral college votes? Were the rioters incited by thePOTUS in an attempt to overturn his election defeat?None of that excuses mob violence of course, no matter where and whyit happens. I'm also thinking that Portland needs to make a concertedeffort to identify and arrest some of these hooligans. I suspectthey've got a hard core group of repeat offenders that should be dealtwith.


Do we have any numbers yet on the dwindling population of NYC, NY
State, California, and Washington State. Just curious. My
unscientific poll says a significant number of NYers and Fornians
are moving to Florida.


===

Florida has been a popular retirement destination for New Yorkers for
more than 70 years. Over here on the left coast most of our newcomers
are from the mid-west. I call it the I-75 pipeline effect. There has
definitely been a move out of New York City. Between Covid, high tax
rates and crime, there have been a lot of reasons to leave. My oldest
son and his wife have done that, turning their summer home out east
into their year round residence, and working from home.



I gave up trying to convince my wife that my favorite little Connecticut
town, Milford, would be a great place to retire. She's a Southern belle,
and cannot tolerate the winter cold there or the water temperature of
the Sound for swimming in the summer...too cold for her.

Neither of us want to return to Florida. Number One on our "hit list"
are a couple of areas just west of Savannah. Hilton Head is still nice,
but it is pretty congested these days and we noticed that for months at
a time, from spring through September at least, the auto traffic is very
heavy all around the island and just off of it. If you go off-island,
the traffic wait to get back on it is lengthy and annoying. Also, a lot
of the island is looking worn-out. Plus, Georgia seems a bit more
socially progressive than South Carolina, as evidenced that in the
recent elections there, a black minister and a Jew were elected to the
U.S. Senate, both Democrats.

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John[_6_] January 22nd 21 05:14 PM

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On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 10:43:02 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 07:43:13 -0500, John wrote:

On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 23:37:15 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:15:08 -0500, John wrote:

Or, Wayne and Harry, are these just 'peaceful protests' instigated by Trump?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/u...tle-biden.html

https://www.wsj.com/articles/inaugur...nt-11611260877

How do you explain that ****? Note that a Federal courthouse was attacked, but
no one was shot.

Wow.

===

Wow indeed. Were there members of congress inside the courthouse
trying to carry out the constitutional process of certifying the
presidential electoral college votes? Were the rioters incited by the
POTUS in an attempt to overturn his election defeat?

None of that excuses mob violence of course, no matter where and why
it happens. I'm also thinking that Portland needs to make a concerted
effort to identify and arrest some of these hooligans. I suspect
they've got a hard core group of repeat offenders that should be dealt
with.


No, they were just rioting, Wayne.

Funny. Go to CNN.com or Washingtonpost.com and search for 'Portland riot'.
Nothing. If the news doesn't support the liberal position, just don't report it.
Now do the same with ABC. Do you see the difference?


===

It may give you some personal comfort to draw parallels between the
Portland riots and Trump's capitol insurrection, but most people
recognize that there is a huge difference. I do think that Portland
needs to start taking names and kicking ass however.


Totally missed the point. The comparison was between two liberal outlets and a
more centrist outlet. The liberal outlets just skip over real news that doesn't
support an anti-conservative position.

No riot comparison whatsoever.

But...oh, never mind.
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Wayne B January 22nd 21 06:18 PM

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On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 10:56:13 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/22/21 10:35 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 07:18:12 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Wayne B Wrote in message:r
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:15:08 -0500, John wrote:Or, Wayne and Harry, are these just 'peaceful protests' instigated by Trump?https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/us/protests-portland-seattle-biden.htmlhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/inauguration-day-protests-in-portland-seattle-turned-violent-11611260877How do you explain that ****? Note that a Federal courthouse was attacked, butno one was shot.Wow.===Wow indeed. Were there members of congress inside the courthousetrying to carry out the constitutional process of certifying thepresidential electoral college votes? Were the rioters incited by thePOTUS in an attempt to overturn his election defeat?None of that excuses mob violence of course, no matter where and whyit happens. I'm also thinking that Portland needs to make a concertedeffort to identify and arrest some of these hooligans. I suspectthey've got a hard core group of repeat offenders that should be dealtwith.

Do we have any numbers yet on the dwindling population of NYC, NY
State, California, and Washington State. Just curious. My
unscientific poll says a significant number of NYers and Fornians
are moving to Florida.


===

Florida has been a popular retirement destination for New Yorkers for
more than 70 years. Over here on the left coast most of our newcomers
are from the mid-west. I call it the I-75 pipeline effect. There has
definitely been a move out of New York City. Between Covid, high tax
rates and crime, there have been a lot of reasons to leave. My oldest
son and his wife have done that, turning their summer home out east
into their year round residence, and working from home.



I gave up trying to convince my wife that my favorite little Connecticut
town, Milford, would be a great place to retire. She's a Southern belle,
and cannot tolerate the winter cold there or the water temperature of
the Sound for swimming in the summer...too cold for her.

Neither of us want to return to Florida. Number One on our "hit list"
are a couple of areas just west of Savannah. Hilton Head is still nice,
but it is pretty congested these days and we noticed that for months at
a time, from spring through September at least, the auto traffic is very
heavy all around the island and just off of it. If you go off-island,
the traffic wait to get back on it is lengthy and annoying. Also, a lot
of the island is looking worn-out. Plus, Georgia seems a bit more
socially progressive than South Carolina, as evidenced that in the
recent elections there, a black minister and a Jew were elected to the
U.S. Senate, both Democrats.


===

We know a number of people who have left Florida for various reasons.
Popular destinations seem to be Tennessee, Georgia and the mountain
areas of North Carolina near Asheville. We also know a few who have
gone full time RVing.

Wayne B January 22nd 21 06:24 PM

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On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 12:14:36 -0500, John wrote:

Totally missed the point. The comparison was between two liberal outlets and a
more centrist outlet. The liberal outlets just skip over real news that doesn't
support an anti-conservative position.


===

That's why it's important to maintain a balanced perspective, consider
all points of view and seek out news sources that are reasonably
unbiased. Too many people seek out news sources that confirm and
amplify the biases that they already have.

Bill[_12_] January 22nd 21 07:48 PM

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Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 12:14:36 -0500, John wrote:

Totally missed the point. The comparison was between two liberal outlets and a
more centrist outlet. The liberal outlets just skip over real news that doesn't
support an anti-conservative position.


===

That's why it's important to maintain a balanced perspective, consider
all points of view and seek out news sources that are reasonably
unbiased. Too many people seek out news sources that confirm and
amplify the biases that they already have.


Nancy was for attacks on government offices before.

https://www.americamagazine.org/poli...pations-239677



John[_6_] January 22nd 21 08:03 PM

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On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 13:24:39 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 12:14:36 -0500, John wrote:

Totally missed the point. The comparison was between two liberal outlets and a
more centrist outlet. The liberal outlets just skip over real news that doesn't
support an anti-conservative position.


===

That's why it's important to maintain a balanced perspective, consider
all points of view and seek out news sources that are reasonably
unbiased. Too many people seek out news sources that confirm and
amplify the biases that they already have.


Too many seek out news sources that ignore a lot of news.
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John[_6_] January 22nd 21 08:05 PM

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On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 19:48:15 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 12:14:36 -0500, John wrote:

Totally missed the point. The comparison was between two liberal outlets and a
more centrist outlet. The liberal outlets just skip over real news that doesn't
support an anti-conservative position.


===

That's why it's important to maintain a balanced perspective, consider
all points of view and seek out news sources that are reasonably
unbiased. Too many people seek out news sources that confirm and
amplify the biases that they already have.


Nancy was for attacks on government offices before.

https://www.americamagazine.org/poli...pations-239677


Caught again!

"A spokeswoman for China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs recalled that House
Speaker Nancy Pelosi described Hong Kong’s anti-Beijing protests in 2019, which
occupied the city’s legislature, as “a beautiful sight to behold.” The
occupation of her own legislature, in contrast, was a “shameful assault on our
democracy.”

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justan January 22nd 21 08:49 PM

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Wayne B Wrote in message:r
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 10:56:13 -0500, Keyser wrote:On 1/22/21 10:35 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 07:18:12 -0500 (EST), justan wrote: Wayne B Wrote in message:r On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:15:08 -0500, John wrote:Or, Wayne and Harry, are these just 'peaceful protests' instigated by Trump?https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/us/protests-portland-seattle-biden.htmlhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/inauguration-day-protests-in-portland-seattle-turned-violent-11611260877How do you explain that ****? Note that a Federal courthouse was attacked, butno one was shot.Wow.===Wow indeed. Were there members of congress inside the courthousetrying to carry out the constitutional process of certifying thepresidential electoral college votes? Were the rioters incited by thePOTUS in an attempt to overturn his election defeat?None of that excuses mob violence of course, no matter where and whyit happens. I'm also thinking that Portland needs to make a concertedeffort to identify and arrest some of these hooligans. I suspectthey've got a hard core group of repeat offenders that should be dealtwith. Do we have any numbers yet on the dwindling population of NYC, NY State, California, and Washington State. Just curious. My unscientific poll says a significant number of NYers and Fornians are moving to Florida. === Florida has been a popular retirement destination for New Yorkers for more than 70 years. Over here on the left coast most of our newcomers are from the mid-west. I call it the I-75 pipeline effect. There has definitely been a move out of New York City. Between Covid, high tax rates and crime, there have been a lot of reasons to leave. My oldest son and his wife have done that, turning their summer home out east into their year round residence, and working from home. I gave up trying to convince my wife that my favorite little Connecticut town, Milford, would be a great place to retire. She's a Southern belle, and cannot tolerate the winter cold there or the water temperature of the Sound for swimming in the summer...too cold for her.Neither of us want to return to Florida. Number One on our "hit list" are a couple of areas just west of Savannah. Hilton Head is still nice, but it is pretty congested these days and we noticed that for months at a time, from spring through September at least, the auto traffic is very heavy all around the island and just off of it. If you go off-island, the traffic wait to get back on it is lengthy and annoying. Also, a lot of the island is looking worn-out. Plus, Georgia seems a bit more socially progressive than South Carolina, as evidenced that in the recent elections there, a black minister and a Jew were elected to the U.S. Senate, both Democrats.===We know a number of people who have left Florida for various reasons.Popular destinations seem to be Tennessee, Georgia and the mountainareas of North Carolina near Asheville. We also know a few who havegone full time RVing.

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Wayne B January 22nd 21 09:11 PM

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On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 19:48:15 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 12:14:36 -0500, John wrote:

Totally missed the point. The comparison was between two liberal outlets and a
more centrist outlet. The liberal outlets just skip over real news that doesn't
support an anti-conservative position.


===

That's why it's important to maintain a balanced perspective, consider
all points of view and seek out news sources that are reasonably
unbiased. Too many people seek out news sources that confirm and
amplify the biases that they already have.


Nancy was for attacks on government offices before.

https://www.americamagazine.org/poli...pations-239677


===

One woman's terrorist is another woman's freedom fighter! :-)

Keyser Söze[_3_] January 22nd 21 09:24 PM

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On 1/22/21 1:18 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 10:56:13 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/22/21 10:35 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 07:18:12 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Wayne B Wrote in message:r
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:15:08 -0500, John wrote:Or, Wayne and Harry, are these just 'peaceful protests' instigated by Trump?https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/us/protests-portland-seattle-biden.htmlhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/inauguration-day-protests-in-portland-seattle-turned-violent-11611260877How do you explain that ****? Note that a Federal courthouse was attacked, butno one was shot.Wow.===Wow indeed. Were there members of congress inside the courthousetrying to carry out the constitutional process of certifying thepresidential electoral college votes? Were the rioters incited by thePOTUS in an attempt to overturn his election defeat?None of that excuses mob violence of course, no matter where and whyit happens. I'm also thinking that Portland needs to make a concertedeffort to identify and arrest some of these hooligans. I suspectthey've got a hard core group of repeat offenders that should be dealtwith.

Do we have any numbers yet on the dwindling population of NYC, NY
State, California, and Washington State. Just curious. My
unscientific poll says a significant number of NYers and Fornians
are moving to Florida.

===

Florida has been a popular retirement destination for New Yorkers for
more than 70 years. Over here on the left coast most of our newcomers
are from the mid-west. I call it the I-75 pipeline effect. There has
definitely been a move out of New York City. Between Covid, high tax
rates and crime, there have been a lot of reasons to leave. My oldest
son and his wife have done that, turning their summer home out east
into their year round residence, and working from home.



I gave up trying to convince my wife that my favorite little Connecticut
town, Milford, would be a great place to retire. She's a Southern belle,
and cannot tolerate the winter cold there or the water temperature of
the Sound for swimming in the summer...too cold for her.

Neither of us want to return to Florida. Number One on our "hit list"
are a couple of areas just west of Savannah. Hilton Head is still nice,
but it is pretty congested these days and we noticed that for months at
a time, from spring through September at least, the auto traffic is very
heavy all around the island and just off of it. If you go off-island,
the traffic wait to get back on it is lengthy and annoying. Also, a lot
of the island is looking worn-out. Plus, Georgia seems a bit more
socially progressive than South Carolina, as evidenced that in the
recent elections there, a black minister and a Jew were elected to the
U.S. Senate, both Democrats.


===

We know a number of people who have left Florida for various reasons.
Popular destinations seem to be Tennessee, Georgia and the mountain
areas of North Carolina near Asheville. We also know a few who have
gone full time RVing.


I doubt we could tolerate Tennessee politically. Wife has a couple of
relatives near Asheville she visits. RVing has no appeal.

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justan January 22nd 21 11:46 PM

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Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
On 1/22/21 1:18 PM, Wayne B wrote: On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 10:56:13 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/22/21 10:35 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 07:18:12 -0500 (EST), justan wrote: Wayne B Wrote in message:r On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:15:08 -0500, John wrote:Or, Wayne and Harry, are these just 'peaceful protests' instigated by Trump?https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/us/protests-portland-seattle-biden.htmlhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/inauguration-day-protests-in-portland-seattle-turned-violent-11611260877How do you explain that ****? Note that a Federal courthouse was attacked, butno one was shot.Wow.===Wow indeed. Were there members of congress inside the courthousetrying to carry out the constitutional process of certifying thepresidential electoral college votes? Were the rioters incited by thePOTUS in an attempt to overturn his election defeat?None of that excuses mob violence of course, no matter where and whyit happens. I'm also thinking that Portland needs to make a concertedeffort to identify and arrest some of these hooligans. I suspectthey've got a hard core group of repeat offenders that should be dealtwith. Do we have any numbers yet on the dwindling population of NYC, NY State, California, and Washington State. Just curious. My unscientific poll says a significant number of NYers and Fornians are moving to Florida. === Florida has been a popular retirement destination for New Yorkers for more than 70 years. Over here on the left coast most of our newcomers are from the mid-west. I call it the I-75 pipeline effect. There has definitely been a move out of New York City. Between Covid, high tax rates and crime, there have been a lot of reasons to leave. My oldest son and his wife have done that, turning their summer home out east into their year round residence, and working from home. I gave up trying to convince my wife that my favorite little Connecticut town, Milford, would be a great place to retire. She's a Southern belle, and cannot tolerate the winter cold there or the water temperature of the Sound for swimming in the summer...too cold for her. Neither of us want to return to Florida. Number One on our "hit list" are a couple of areas just west of Savannah. Hilton Head is still nice, but it is pretty congested these days and we noticed that for months at a time, from spring through September at least, the auto traffic is very heavy all around the island and just off of it. If you go off-island, the traffic wait to get back on it is lengthy and annoying. Also, a lot of the island is looking worn-out. Plus, Georgia seems a bit more socially progressive than South Carolina, as evidenced that in the recent elections there, a black minister and a Jew were elected to the U.S. Senate, both Democrats. === We know a number of people who have left Florida for various reasons. Popular destinations seem to be Tennessee, Georgia and the mountain areas of North Carolina near Asheville. We also know a few who have gone full time RVing. I doubt we could tolerate Tennessee politically. Wife has a couple of relatives near Asheville she visits. RVing has no appeal.-- Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com,Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, AMDX, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull,Witless, Insult-Tossing Trumpsters. If you are on this list, I don't seemost of your posts and I don't read any of them.


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YOU? WIMPY CANADIAN ASSWIPE EXCLUDED.
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[email protected] January 23rd 21 02:02 AM

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On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 07:18:12 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Wayne B Wrote in message:r
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:15:08 -0500, John wrote:Or, Wayne and Harry, are these just 'peaceful protests' instigated by Trump?https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/us/protests-portland-seattle-biden.htmlhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/inauguration-day-protests-in-portland-seattle-turned-violent-11611260877How do you explain that ****? Note that a Federal courthouse was attacked, butno one was shot.Wow.===Wow indeed. Were there members of congress inside the courthousetrying to carry out the constitutional process of certifying thepresidential electoral college votes? Were the rioters incited by thePOTUS in an attempt to overturn his election defeat?None of that excuses mob violence of course, no matter where and whyit happens. I'm also thinking that Portland needs to make a concertedeffort to identify and arrest some of these hooligans. I suspectthey've got a hard core group of repeat offenders that should be dealtwith.


Do we have any numbers yet on the dwindling population of NYC, NY
State, California, and Washington State. Just curious. My
unscientific poll says a significant number of NYers and Fornians
are moving to Florida.


I am seeing NY tags here now and we never used to see them. They
usually stayed on I-95. Maybe we should blow up I-4 and Alligator
Alley.

[email protected] January 23rd 21 02:05 AM

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On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 10:43:02 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 07:43:13 -0500, John wrote:

On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 23:37:15 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:15:08 -0500, John wrote:

Or, Wayne and Harry, are these just 'peaceful protests' instigated by Trump?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/u...tle-biden.html

https://www.wsj.com/articles/inaugur...nt-11611260877

How do you explain that ****? Note that a Federal courthouse was attacked, but
no one was shot.

Wow.

===

Wow indeed. Were there members of congress inside the courthouse
trying to carry out the constitutional process of certifying the
presidential electoral college votes? Were the rioters incited by the
POTUS in an attempt to overturn his election defeat?

None of that excuses mob violence of course, no matter where and why
it happens. I'm also thinking that Portland needs to make a concerted
effort to identify and arrest some of these hooligans. I suspect
they've got a hard core group of repeat offenders that should be dealt
with.


No, they were just rioting, Wayne.

Funny. Go to CNN.com or Washingtonpost.com and search for 'Portland riot'.
Nothing. If the news doesn't support the liberal position, just don't report it.
Now do the same with ABC. Do you see the difference?


===

It may give you some personal comfort to draw parallels between the
Portland riots and Trump's capitol insurrection, but most people
recognize that there is a huge difference. I do think that Portland
needs to start taking names and kicking ass however.


I don't see the capitol being any more sacred than the federal court
house. They are coequal branches of government.
If the thugs just want to burn the Portland City hall, that is a local
problem.

[email protected] January 23rd 21 02:07 AM

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On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 10:56:13 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/22/21 10:35 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 07:18:12 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Wayne B Wrote in message:r
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:15:08 -0500, John wrote:Or, Wayne and Harry, are these just 'peaceful protests' instigated by

Trump?https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/us/protests-portland-seattle-biden.htmlhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/inauguration-day-protests-in-portland-seattle-turned-violent-11611260877How do you explain that ****? Note that a Federal courthouse was attacked, butno one was shot.Wow.===Wow indeed. Were there members of
congress inside the courthousetrying to carry out the constitutional process of certifying thepresidential electoral college votes? Were the rioters incited by thePOTUS in an attempt to overturn his election defeat?None of that excuses mob violence of course, no matter where and whyit happens. I'm also thinking that Portland
needs to make a concertedeffort to identify and arrest some of these hooligans. I suspectthey've got a hard core group of repeat offenders that should be dealtwith.

Do we have any numbers yet on the dwindling population of NYC, NY
State, California, and Washington State. Just curious. My
unscientific poll says a significant number of NYers and Fornians
are moving to Florida.


===

Florida has been a popular retirement destination for New Yorkers for
more than 70 years. Over here on the left coast most of our newcomers
are from the mid-west. I call it the I-75 pipeline effect. There has
definitely been a move out of New York City. Between Covid, high tax
rates and crime, there have been a lot of reasons to leave. My oldest
son and his wife have done that, turning their summer home out east
into their year round residence, and working from home.



I gave up trying to convince my wife that my favorite little Connecticut
town, Milford, would be a great place to retire. She's a Southern belle,
and cannot tolerate the winter cold there or the water temperature of
the Sound for swimming in the summer...too cold for her.

Neither of us want to return to Florida. Number One on our "hit list"
are a couple of areas just west of Savannah. Hilton Head is still nice,
but it is pretty congested these days and we noticed that for months at
a time, from spring through September at least, the auto traffic is very
heavy all around the island and just off of it. If you go off-island,
the traffic wait to get back on it is lengthy and annoying. Also, a lot
of the island is looking worn-out. Plus, Georgia seems a bit more
socially progressive than South Carolina, as evidenced that in the
recent elections there, a black minister and a Jew were elected to the
U.S. Senate, both Democrats.


Atlanta might be for you. It is pretty much like DC and I lived in
both places. Those is the people who are driving Georgia politics now.

[email protected] January 23rd 21 02:11 AM

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On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 13:18:33 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 10:56:13 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/22/21 10:35 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 07:18:12 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Wayne B Wrote in message:r
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:15:08 -0500, John wrote:Or, Wayne and Harry, are these just 'peaceful protests' instigated by

Trump?https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/us/protests-portland-seattle-biden.htmlhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/inauguration-day-protests-in-portland-seattle-turned-violent-11611260877How do you explain that ****? Note that a Federal courthouse was attacked, butno one was shot.Wow.===Wow indeed. Were there members of
congress inside the courthousetrying to carry out the constitutional process of certifying thepresidential electoral college votes? Were the rioters incited by thePOTUS in an attempt to overturn his election defeat?None of that excuses mob violence of course, no matter where and whyit happens. I'm also thinking that Portland
needs to make a concertedeffort to identify and arrest some of these hooligans. I suspectthey've got a hard core group of repeat offenders that should be dealtwith.

Do we have any numbers yet on the dwindling population of NYC, NY
State, California, and Washington State. Just curious. My
unscientific poll says a significant number of NYers and Fornians
are moving to Florida.

===

Florida has been a popular retirement destination for New Yorkers for
more than 70 years. Over here on the left coast most of our newcomers
are from the mid-west. I call it the I-75 pipeline effect. There has
definitely been a move out of New York City. Between Covid, high tax
rates and crime, there have been a lot of reasons to leave. My oldest
son and his wife have done that, turning their summer home out east
into their year round residence, and working from home.



I gave up trying to convince my wife that my favorite little Connecticut
town, Milford, would be a great place to retire. She's a Southern belle,
and cannot tolerate the winter cold there or the water temperature of
the Sound for swimming in the summer...too cold for her.

Neither of us want to return to Florida. Number One on our "hit list"
are a couple of areas just west of Savannah. Hilton Head is still nice,
but it is pretty congested these days and we noticed that for months at
a time, from spring through September at least, the auto traffic is very
heavy all around the island and just off of it. If you go off-island,
the traffic wait to get back on it is lengthy and annoying. Also, a lot
of the island is looking worn-out. Plus, Georgia seems a bit more
socially progressive than South Carolina, as evidenced that in the
recent elections there, a black minister and a Jew were elected to the
U.S. Senate, both Democrats.


===

We know a number of people who have left Florida for various reasons.
Popular destinations seem to be Tennessee, Georgia and the mountain
areas of North Carolina near Asheville. We also know a few who have
gone full time RVing.


Those folks up there call their new residents "half backs".
They moved south, then moved half way back. I know a few myself. One
was originally from Georgia tho. The other 3 were from Illinois,
Michigan and Ohio. They are in Tennessee.

[email protected] January 23rd 21 02:21 AM

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On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 16:24:07 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/22/21 1:18 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 10:56:13 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/22/21 10:35 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 07:18:12 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Wayne B Wrote in message:r
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:15:08 -0500, John wrote:Or, Wayne and Harry, are these just 'peaceful protests' instigated by

Trump?https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/us/protests-portland-seattle-biden.htmlhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/inauguration-day-protests-in-portland-seattle-turned-violent-11611260877How do you explain that ****? Note that a Federal courthouse was attacked, butno one was shot.Wow.===Wow indeed. Were there members of
congress inside the courthousetrying to carry out the constitutional process of certifying thepresidential electoral college votes? Were the rioters incited by thePOTUS in an attempt to overturn his election defeat?None of that excuses mob violence of course, no matter where and whyit happens. I'm also thinking that Portland
needs to make a concertedeffort to identify and arrest some of these hooligans. I suspectthey've got a hard core group of repeat offenders that should be dealtwith.

Do we have any numbers yet on the dwindling population of NYC, NY
State, California, and Washington State. Just curious. My
unscientific poll says a significant number of NYers and Fornians
are moving to Florida.

===

Florida has been a popular retirement destination for New Yorkers for
more than 70 years. Over here on the left coast most of our newcomers
are from the mid-west. I call it the I-75 pipeline effect. There has
definitely been a move out of New York City. Between Covid, high tax
rates and crime, there have been a lot of reasons to leave. My oldest
son and his wife have done that, turning their summer home out east
into their year round residence, and working from home.



I gave up trying to convince my wife that my favorite little Connecticut
town, Milford, would be a great place to retire. She's a Southern belle,
and cannot tolerate the winter cold there or the water temperature of
the Sound for swimming in the summer...too cold for her.

Neither of us want to return to Florida. Number One on our "hit list"
are a couple of areas just west of Savannah. Hilton Head is still nice,
but it is pretty congested these days and we noticed that for months at
a time, from spring through September at least, the auto traffic is very
heavy all around the island and just off of it. If you go off-island,
the traffic wait to get back on it is lengthy and annoying. Also, a lot
of the island is looking worn-out. Plus, Georgia seems a bit more
socially progressive than South Carolina, as evidenced that in the
recent elections there, a black minister and a Jew were elected to the
U.S. Senate, both Democrats.


===

We know a number of people who have left Florida for various reasons.
Popular destinations seem to be Tennessee, Georgia and the mountain
areas of North Carolina near Asheville. We also know a few who have
gone full time RVing.


I doubt we could tolerate Tennessee politically. Wife has a couple of
relatives near Asheville she visits. RVing has no appeal.


The only way I could see RVing is if I was left all alone and decided
to do the Sal Paradise thing but I suspect I would end up just coming
back here and parking it after a while. I really like this place.

I would need to find a Deena tho. I prefer the company of women.

Keyser Söze[_3_] January 23rd 21 03:35 AM

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On 1/22/21 9:07 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 10:56:13 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/22/21 10:35 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 07:18:12 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Wayne B Wrote in message:r
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:15:08 -0500, John wrote:Or, Wayne and Harry, are these just 'peaceful protests' instigated by

Trump?https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/us/protests-portland-seattle-biden.htmlhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/inauguration-day-protests-in-portland-seattle-turned-violent-11611260877How do you explain that ****? Note that a Federal courthouse was attacked, butno one was shot.Wow.===Wow indeed. Were there members of
congress inside the courthousetrying to carry out the constitutional process of certifying thepresidential electoral college votes? Were the rioters incited by thePOTUS in an attempt to overturn his election defeat?None of that excuses mob violence of course, no matter where and whyit happens. I'm also thinking that Portland
needs to make a concertedeffort to identify and arrest some of these hooligans. I suspectthey've got a hard core group of repeat offenders that should be dealtwith.

Do we have any numbers yet on the dwindling population of NYC, NY
State, California, and Washington State. Just curious. My
unscientific poll says a significant number of NYers and Fornians
are moving to Florida.

===

Florida has been a popular retirement destination for New Yorkers for
more than 70 years. Over here on the left coast most of our newcomers
are from the mid-west. I call it the I-75 pipeline effect. There has
definitely been a move out of New York City. Between Covid, high tax
rates and crime, there have been a lot of reasons to leave. My oldest
son and his wife have done that, turning their summer home out east
into their year round residence, and working from home.



I gave up trying to convince my wife that my favorite little Connecticut
town, Milford, would be a great place to retire. She's a Southern belle,
and cannot tolerate the winter cold there or the water temperature of
the Sound for swimming in the summer...too cold for her.

Neither of us want to return to Florida. Number One on our "hit list"
are a couple of areas just west of Savannah. Hilton Head is still nice,
but it is pretty congested these days and we noticed that for months at
a time, from spring through September at least, the auto traffic is very
heavy all around the island and just off of it. If you go off-island,
the traffic wait to get back on it is lengthy and annoying. Also, a lot
of the island is looking worn-out. Plus, Georgia seems a bit more
socially progressive than South Carolina, as evidenced that in the
recent elections there, a black minister and a Jew were elected to the
U.S. Senate, both Democrats.


Atlanta might be for you. It is pretty much like DC and I lived in
both places. Those is the people who are driving Georgia politics now.


That's funny. I've no interest in living in any big metro center, with
the possible exception of San Francisco. I've been to Atlanta maybe a
half dozen times on business and do not find it appealing. It is
nothing like D.C., which is a pretty small city. If we were to live
again in Florida, we think St. Augustine is livable. We like visiting
Ft. Lauderdale and Miami in the winter, though.

--
Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com,
Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, AMDX, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull,
Witless, Insult-Tossing Trumpsters. If you are on this list, I don't see
most of your posts and I don't read any of them.

Bill[_12_] January 23rd 21 06:16 AM

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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/22/21 9:07 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 10:56:13 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/22/21 10:35 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 07:18:12 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Wayne B Wrote in message:r
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:15:08 -0500, John
wrote:Or, Wayne and Harry, are these just 'peaceful protests' instigated by

Trump?https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/us/protests-portland-seattle-biden.htmlhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/inauguration-day-protests-in-portland-seattle-turned-violent-11611260877How
do you explain that ****? Note that a Federal courthouse was attacked,
butno one was shot.Wow.===Wow indeed. Were there members of
congress inside the courthousetrying to carry out the constitutional
process of certifying thepresidential electoral college votes? Were the
rioters incited by thePOTUS in an attempt to overturn his election
defeat?None of that excuses mob violence of course, no matter where and
whyit happens. I'm also thinking that Portland
needs to make a concertedeffort to identify and arrest some of these
hooligans. I suspectthey've got a hard core group of repeat offenders
that should be dealtwith.

Do we have any numbers yet on the dwindling population of NYC, NY
State, California, and Washington State. Just curious. My
unscientific poll says a significant number of NYers and Fornians
are moving to Florida.

===

Florida has been a popular retirement destination for New Yorkers for
more than 70 years. Over here on the left coast most of our newcomers
are from the mid-west. I call it the I-75 pipeline effect. There has
definitely been a move out of New York City. Between Covid, high tax
rates and crime, there have been a lot of reasons to leave. My oldest
son and his wife have done that, turning their summer home out east
into their year round residence, and working from home.



I gave up trying to convince my wife that my favorite little Connecticut
town, Milford, would be a great place to retire. She's a Southern belle,
and cannot tolerate the winter cold there or the water temperature of
the Sound for swimming in the summer...too cold for her.

Neither of us want to return to Florida. Number One on our "hit list"
are a couple of areas just west of Savannah. Hilton Head is still nice,
but it is pretty congested these days and we noticed that for months at
a time, from spring through September at least, the auto traffic is very
heavy all around the island and just off of it. If you go off-island,
the traffic wait to get back on it is lengthy and annoying. Also, a lot
of the island is looking worn-out. Plus, Georgia seems a bit more
socially progressive than South Carolina, as evidenced that in the
recent elections there, a black minister and a Jew were elected to the
U.S. Senate, both Democrats.


Atlanta might be for you. It is pretty much like DC and I lived in
both places. Those is the people who are driving Georgia politics now.


That's funny. I've no interest in living in any big metro center, with
the possible exception of San Francisco. I've been to Atlanta maybe a
half dozen times on business and do not find it appealing. It is
nothing like D.C., which is a pretty small city. If we were to live
again in Florida, we think St. Augustine is livable. We like visiting
Ft. Lauderdale and Miami in the winter, though.


Your fixation on homosexuality will stand you in good stead in SF.
Terrible place anymore. Has been ruined in the last 20-30 years. Homeless
everywhere, even city hall grounds. I grew up across the bay from San
Francisco, liked it. Went to City College of SF, and graduated from SF
State. Worked there for 10 years. The political leaders have trashed the
place. Over taxed, under served.


justan January 23rd 21 01:58 PM

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Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
On 1/22/21 9:07 PM, wrote: On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 10:56:13 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/22/21 10:35 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 07:18:12 -0500 (EST), justan wrote: Wayne B Wrote in message:r On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:15:08 -0500, John wrote:Or, Wayne and Harry, are these just 'peaceful protests' instigated by Trump?https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/us/protests-portland-seattle-biden.htmlhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/inauguration-day-protests-in-portland-seattle-turned-violent-11611260877How do you explain that ****? Note that a Federal courthouse was attacked, butno one was shot.Wow.===Wow indeed. Were there members of congress inside the courthousetrying to carry out the constitutional process of certifying thepresidential electoral college votes? Were the rioters incited by thePOTUS in an attempt to overturn his election defeat?None of that excuses mob violence of course, no matter where and whyit happens. I'm also thinking that Portland needs to make a concertedeffort to identify and arrest some of these hooligans. I suspectthey've got a hard core group of repeat offenders that should be dealtwith. Do we have any numbers yet on the dwindling population of NYC, NY State, California, and Washington State. Just curious. My unscientific poll says a significant number of NYers and Fornians are moving to Florida. === Florida has been a popular retirement destination for New Yorkers for more than 70 years. Over here on the left coast most of our newcomers are from the mid-west. I call it the I-75 pipeline effect. There has definitely been a move out of New York City. Between Covid, high tax rates and crime, there have been a lot of reasons to leave. My oldest son and his wife have done that, turning their summer home out east into their year round residence, and working from home. I gave up trying to convince my wife that my favorite little Connecticut town, Milford, would be a great place to retire. She's a Southern belle, and cannot tolerate the winter cold there or the water temperature of the Sound for swimming in the summer...too cold for her. Neither of us want to return to Florida. Number One on our "hit list" are a couple of areas just west of Savannah. Hilton Head is still nice, but it is pretty congested these days and we noticed that for months at a time, from spring through September at least, the auto traffic is very heavy all around the island and just off of it. If you go off-island, the traffic wait to get back on it is lengthy and annoying. Also, a lot of the island is looking worn-out. Plus, Georgia seems a bit more socially progressive than South Carolina, as evidenced that in the recent elections there, a black minister and a Jew were elected to the U.S. Senate, both Democrats. Atlanta might be for you. It is pretty much like DC and I lived in both places. Those is the people who are driving Georgia politics now. That's funny. I've no interest in living in any big metro center, with the possible exception of San Francisco. I've been to Atlanta maybe a half dozen times on business and do not find it appealing. It is nothing like D.C., which is a pretty small city. If we were to live again in Florida, we think St. Augustine is livable. We like visiting Ft. Lauderdale and Miami in the winter, though.-- Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com,Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, AMDX, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull,Witless, Insult-Tossing Trumpsters. If you are on this list, I don't seemost of your posts and I don't read any of them.


Next time you are in St. Augustine, drop in at the alligator farm
for lunch. I'm sure they'd be delighted to have you.

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Bill Wrote in message:r
Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/22/21 9:07 PM, wrote: On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 10:56:13 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/22/21 10:35 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 07:18:12 -0500 (EST), justan wrote: Wayne B Wrote in message:r On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:15:08 -0500, John wrote:Or, Wayne and Harry, are these just 'peaceful protests' instigated by Trump?https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/us/protests-portland-seattle-biden.htmlhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/inauguration-day-protests-in-portland-seattle-turned-violent-11611260877How do you explain that ****? Note that a Federal courthouse was attacked, butno one was shot.Wow.===Wow indeed. Were there members of congress inside the courthousetrying to carry out the constitutional process of certifying thepresidential electoral college votes? Were the rioters incited by thePOTUS in an attempt to overturn his election defeat?None of that excuses mob violence of course, no matter where and whyit happens. I'm also thinking that Portland needs to make a concertedeffort to identify and arrest some of these hooligans. I suspectthey've got a hard core group of repeat offenders that should be dealtwith. Do we have any numbers yet on the dwindling population of NYC, NY State, California, and Washington State. Just curious. My unscientific poll says a significant number of NYers and Fornians are moving to Florida. === Florida has been a popular retirement destination for New Yorkers for more than 70 years. Over here on the left coast most of our newcomers are from the mid-west. I call it the I-75 pipeline effect. There has definitely been a move out of New York City. Between Covid, high tax rates and crime, there have been a lot of reasons to leave. My oldest son and his wife have done that, turning their summer home out east into their year round residence, and working from home. I gave up trying to convince my wife that my favorite little Connecticut town, Milford, would be a great place to retire. She's a Southern belle, and cannot tolerate the winter cold there or the water temperature of the Sound for swimming in the summer...too cold for her. Neither of us want to return to Florida. Number One on our "hit list" are a couple of areas just west of Savannah. Hilton Head is still nice, but it is pretty congested these days and we noticed that for months at a time, from spring through September at least, the auto traffic is very heavy all around the island and just off of it. If you go off-island, the traffic wait to get back on it is lengthy and annoying. Also, a lot of the island is looking worn-out. Plus, Georgia seems a bit more socially progressive than South Carolina, as evidenced that in the recent elections there, a black minister and a Jew were elected to the U.S. Senate, both Democrats. Atlanta might be for you. It is pretty much like DC and I lived in both places. Those is the people who are driving Georgia politics now. That's funny. I've no interest in living in any big metro center, with the possible exception of San Francisco. I've been to Atlanta maybe a half dozen times on business and do not find it appealing. It is nothing like D.C., which is a pretty small city. If we were to live again in Florida, we think St. Augustine is livable. We like visiting Ft. Lauderdale and Miami in the winter, though. Your fixation on homosexuality will stand you in good stead in SF. Terrible place anymore. Has been ruined in the last 20-30 years. Homelesseverywhere, even city hall grounds. I grew up across the bay from SanFrancisco, liked it. Went to City College of SF, and graduated from SFState. Worked there for 10 years. The political leaders have trashed theplace. Over taxed, under served.

Those damn republicans. They ruin everything, eh?
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Bill[_12_] January 23rd 21 05:12 PM

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justan wrote:
Bill Wrote in message:r
Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/22/21 9:07 PM,
wrote: On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 10:56:13 -0500, Keyser
Söze wrote: On 1/22/21 10:35 AM,
Wayne B wrote: On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 07:18:12 -0500 (EST), justan
wrote: Wayne B
Wrote in message:r On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:15:08 -0500, John
wrote:Or, Wayne and Harry, are these just
'peaceful protests' instigated by
Trump?https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/us/protests-portland-seattle-biden.htmlhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/inauguration-day-protests-in-portland-seattle-turned-violent-11611260877How
do you explain that ****? Note that a Federal courthouse was attacked,
butno one was shot.Wow.===Wow indeed. Were there members of
congress inside the courthousetrying to carry out the constitutional
process of certifying thepresidential electoral college votes? Were
the rioters incited by thePOTUS in an attempt to overturn his
election defeat?None of that excuses mob violence of course, no matter
where and whyit happens. I'm also thinking that Portland needs to
make a concertedeffort to identify and arrest some of these hooligans.
I suspectthey've got a hard core group of repeat offenders that
should be dealtwith. Do we have any numbers yet on the
dwindling population of NYC, NY State, California, and Washington
State. Just curious. My unscientific poll says a significant number
of NYers and Fornians are moving to Florida. ===
Florida has been a popular retirement destination for New Yorkers
for more than 70 years. Over here on the left coast most of our
newcomers are from the mid-west. I call it the I-75 pipeline
effect. There has definitely been a move out of New York City.
Between Covid, high tax rates and crime, there have been a lot of
reasons to leave. My oldest son and his wife have done that,
turning their summer home out east into their year round residence,
and working from home. I gave up trying to convince my
wife that my favorite little Connecticut town, Milford, would be a
great place to retire. She's a Southern belle, and cannot tolerate
the winter cold there or the water temperature of the Sound for
swimming in the summer...too cold for her. Neither of us want to
return to Florida. Number One on our "hit list" are a couple of areas
just west of Savannah. Hilton Head is still nice, but it is pretty
congested these days and we noticed that for months at a time, from
spring through September at least, the auto traffic is very heavy all
around the island and just off of it. If you go off-island, the
traffic wait to get back on it is lengthy and annoying. Also, a lot
of the island is looking worn-out. Plus, Georgia seems a bit more
socially progressive than South Carolina, as evidenced that in the
recent elections there, a black minister and a Jew were elected to
the U.S. Senate, both Democrats. Atlanta might be for you. It is
pretty much like DC and I lived in both places. Those is the people
who are driving Georgia politics now. That's funny. I've no
interest in living in any big metro center, with the possible
exception of San Francisco. I've been to Atlanta maybe a half dozen
times on business and do not find it appealing. It is nothing like
D.C., which is a pretty small city. If we were to live again in
Florida, we think St. Augustine is livable. We like visiting Ft.
Lauderdale and Miami in the winter, though. Your fixation on
homosexuality will stand you in good stead in SF. Terrible place
anymore. Has been ruined in the last 20-30 years. Homelesseverywhere,
even city hall grounds. I grew up across the bay from SanFrancisco,
liked it. Went to City College of SF, and graduated from SFState.
Worked there for 10 years. The political leaders have trashed theplace.
Over taxed, under served.

Those damn republicans. They ruin everything, eh?


Same group emigrated to Portland. Why Oregonians dislike California.
Bring their mindset.


John[_6_] January 23rd 21 05:29 PM

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On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 22:35:00 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/22/21 9:07 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 10:56:13 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/22/21 10:35 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 07:18:12 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Wayne B Wrote in message:r
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:15:08 -0500, John wrote:Or, Wayne and Harry, are these just 'peaceful protests' instigated by

Trump?https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/us/protests-portland-seattle-biden.htmlhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/inauguration-day-protests-in-portland-seattle-turned-violent-11611260877How do you explain that ****? Note that a Federal courthouse was attacked, butno one was shot.Wow.===Wow indeed. Were there members of
congress inside the courthousetrying to carry out the constitutional process of certifying thepresidential electoral college votes? Were the rioters incited by thePOTUS in an attempt to overturn his election defeat?None of that excuses mob violence of course, no matter where and whyit happens. I'm also thinking that Portland
needs to make a concertedeffort to identify and arrest some of these hooligans. I suspectthey've got a hard core group of repeat offenders that should be dealtwith.

Do we have any numbers yet on the dwindling population of NYC, NY
State, California, and Washington State. Just curious. My
unscientific poll says a significant number of NYers and Fornians
are moving to Florida.

===

Florida has been a popular retirement destination for New Yorkers for
more than 70 years. Over here on the left coast most of our newcomers
are from the mid-west. I call it the I-75 pipeline effect. There has
definitely been a move out of New York City. Between Covid, high tax
rates and crime, there have been a lot of reasons to leave. My oldest
son and his wife have done that, turning their summer home out east
into their year round residence, and working from home.



I gave up trying to convince my wife that my favorite little Connecticut
town, Milford, would be a great place to retire. She's a Southern belle,
and cannot tolerate the winter cold there or the water temperature of
the Sound for swimming in the summer...too cold for her.

Neither of us want to return to Florida. Number One on our "hit list"
are a couple of areas just west of Savannah. Hilton Head is still nice,
but it is pretty congested these days and we noticed that for months at
a time, from spring through September at least, the auto traffic is very
heavy all around the island and just off of it. If you go off-island,
the traffic wait to get back on it is lengthy and annoying. Also, a lot
of the island is looking worn-out. Plus, Georgia seems a bit more
socially progressive than South Carolina, as evidenced that in the
recent elections there, a black minister and a Jew were elected to the
U.S. Senate, both Democrats.


Atlanta might be for you. It is pretty much like DC and I lived in
both places. Those is the people who are driving Georgia politics now.


That's funny. I've no interest in living in any big metro center, with
the possible exception of San Francisco. I've been to Atlanta maybe a
half dozen times on business and do not find it appealing. It is
nothing like D.C., which is a pretty small city. If we were to live
again in Florida, we think St. Augustine is livable. We like visiting
Ft. Lauderdale and Miami in the winter, though.


I think you and Donnie would do remarkably well in San Francisco.
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[email protected] January 23rd 21 06:06 PM

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On Friday, January 22, 2021 at 9:12:01 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 13:18:33 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 10:56:13 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/22/21 10:35 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 07:18:12 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Wayne B Wrote in message:r
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:15:08 -0500, John wrote:Or, Wayne and Harry, are these just 'peaceful protests' instigated by

Trump?https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/us/protests-portland-seattle-biden.htmlhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/inauguration-day-protests-in-portland-seattle-turned-violent-11611260877How do you explain that ****? Note that a Federal courthouse was attacked, butno one was shot.Wow.===Wow indeed. Were there members of
congress inside the courthousetrying to carry out the constitutional process of certifying thepresidential electoral college votes? Were the rioters incited by thePOTUS in an attempt to overturn his election defeat?None of that excuses mob violence of course, no matter where and whyit happens. I'm also thinking that Portland
needs to make a concertedeffort to identify and arrest some of these hooligans. I suspectthey've got a hard core group of repeat offenders that should be dealtwith.

Do we have any numbers yet on the dwindling population of NYC, NY
State, California, and Washington State. Just curious. My
unscientific poll says a significant number of NYers and Fornians
are moving to Florida.

===

Florida has been a popular retirement destination for New Yorkers for
more than 70 years. Over here on the left coast most of our newcomers
are from the mid-west. I call it the I-75 pipeline effect. There has
definitely been a move out of New York City. Between Covid, high tax
rates and crime, there have been a lot of reasons to leave. My oldest
son and his wife have done that, turning their summer home out east
into their year round residence, and working from home.



I gave up trying to convince my wife that my favorite little Connecticut
town, Milford, would be a great place to retire. She's a Southern belle,
and cannot tolerate the winter cold there or the water temperature of
the Sound for swimming in the summer...too cold for her.

Neither of us want to return to Florida. Number One on our "hit list"
are a couple of areas just west of Savannah. Hilton Head is still nice,
but it is pretty congested these days and we noticed that for months at
a time, from spring through September at least, the auto traffic is very
heavy all around the island and just off of it. If you go off-island,
the traffic wait to get back on it is lengthy and annoying. Also, a lot
of the island is looking worn-out. Plus, Georgia seems a bit more
socially progressive than South Carolina, as evidenced that in the
recent elections there, a black minister and a Jew were elected to the
U.S. Senate, both Democrats.


===

We know a number of people who have left Florida for various reasons.
Popular destinations seem to be Tennessee, Georgia and the mountain
areas of North Carolina near Asheville. We also know a few who have
gone full time RVing.

Those folks up there call their new residents "half backs".
They moved south, then moved half way back. I know a few myself. One
was originally from Georgia tho. The other 3 were from Illinois,
Michigan and Ohio. They are in Tennessee.


Retirees love Tennessee. There is no income tax on SS or withdrawals from retirement accounts.

[email protected] January 23rd 21 07:21 PM

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On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 22:35:00 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/22/21 9:07 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 10:56:13 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/22/21 10:35 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 07:18:12 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Wayne B Wrote in message:r
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:15:08 -0500, John wrote:Or, Wayne and Harry, are these just 'peaceful protests' instigated by

Trump?https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/us/protests-portland-seattle-biden.htmlhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/inauguration-day-protests-in-portland-seattle-turned-violent-11611260877How do you explain that ****? Note that a Federal courthouse was attacked, butno one was shot.Wow.===Wow indeed. Were there members of
congress inside the courthousetrying to carry out the constitutional process of certifying thepresidential electoral college votes? Were the rioters incited by thePOTUS in an attempt to overturn his election defeat?None of that excuses mob violence of course, no matter where and whyit happens. I'm also thinking that Portland
needs to make a concertedeffort to identify and arrest some of these hooligans. I suspectthey've got a hard core group of repeat offenders that should be dealtwith.

Do we have any numbers yet on the dwindling population of NYC, NY
State, California, and Washington State. Just curious. My
unscientific poll says a significant number of NYers and Fornians
are moving to Florida.

===

Florida has been a popular retirement destination for New Yorkers for
more than 70 years. Over here on the left coast most of our newcomers
are from the mid-west. I call it the I-75 pipeline effect. There has
definitely been a move out of New York City. Between Covid, high tax
rates and crime, there have been a lot of reasons to leave. My oldest
son and his wife have done that, turning their summer home out east
into their year round residence, and working from home.



I gave up trying to convince my wife that my favorite little Connecticut
town, Milford, would be a great place to retire. She's a Southern belle,
and cannot tolerate the winter cold there or the water temperature of
the Sound for swimming in the summer...too cold for her.

Neither of us want to return to Florida. Number One on our "hit list"
are a couple of areas just west of Savannah. Hilton Head is still nice,
but it is pretty congested these days and we noticed that for months at
a time, from spring through September at least, the auto traffic is very
heavy all around the island and just off of it. If you go off-island,
the traffic wait to get back on it is lengthy and annoying. Also, a lot
of the island is looking worn-out. Plus, Georgia seems a bit more
socially progressive than South Carolina, as evidenced that in the
recent elections there, a black minister and a Jew were elected to the
U.S. Senate, both Democrats.


Atlanta might be for you. It is pretty much like DC and I lived in
both places. Those is the people who are driving Georgia politics now.


That's funny. I've no interest in living in any big metro center, with
the possible exception of San Francisco. I've been to Atlanta maybe a
half dozen times on business and do not find it appealing. It is
nothing like D.C., which is a pretty small city.


The only difference I see in any significant way is the federal
triangle in DC. Otherwise the place feels a lot the same to me and I
have spent a lot of time there. The DC line really doesn't mean that
much and the whole metro areas are similar.

You could do what you are doing and live 30 miles out of town.

If we were to live
again in Florida, we think St. Augustine is livable. We like visiting
Ft. Lauderdale and Miami in the winter, though.



[email protected] January 23rd 21 07:23 PM

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On Sat, 23 Jan 2021 06:16:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/22/21 9:07 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 10:56:13 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/22/21 10:35 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 07:18:12 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Wayne B Wrote in message:r
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:15:08 -0500, John
wrote:Or, Wayne and Harry, are these just 'peaceful protests' instigated by
Trump?https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/us/protests-portland-seattle-biden.htmlhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/inauguration-day-protests-in-portland-seattle-turned-violent-11611260877How
do you explain that ****? Note that a Federal courthouse was attacked,
butno one was shot.Wow.===Wow indeed. Were there members of
congress inside the courthousetrying to carry out the constitutional
process of certifying thepresidential electoral college votes? Were the
rioters incited by thePOTUS in an attempt to overturn his election
defeat?None of that excuses mob violence of course, no matter where and
whyit happens. I'm also thinking that Portland
needs to make a concertedeffort to identify and arrest some of these
hooligans. I suspectthey've got a hard core group of repeat offenders
that should be dealtwith.

Do we have any numbers yet on the dwindling population of NYC, NY
State, California, and Washington State. Just curious. My
unscientific poll says a significant number of NYers and Fornians
are moving to Florida.

===

Florida has been a popular retirement destination for New Yorkers for
more than 70 years. Over here on the left coast most of our newcomers
are from the mid-west. I call it the I-75 pipeline effect. There has
definitely been a move out of New York City. Between Covid, high tax
rates and crime, there have been a lot of reasons to leave. My oldest
son and his wife have done that, turning their summer home out east
into their year round residence, and working from home.



I gave up trying to convince my wife that my favorite little Connecticut
town, Milford, would be a great place to retire. She's a Southern belle,
and cannot tolerate the winter cold there or the water temperature of
the Sound for swimming in the summer...too cold for her.

Neither of us want to return to Florida. Number One on our "hit list"
are a couple of areas just west of Savannah. Hilton Head is still nice,
but it is pretty congested these days and we noticed that for months at
a time, from spring through September at least, the auto traffic is very
heavy all around the island and just off of it. If you go off-island,
the traffic wait to get back on it is lengthy and annoying. Also, a lot
of the island is looking worn-out. Plus, Georgia seems a bit more
socially progressive than South Carolina, as evidenced that in the
recent elections there, a black minister and a Jew were elected to the
U.S. Senate, both Democrats.

Atlanta might be for you. It is pretty much like DC and I lived in
both places. Those is the people who are driving Georgia politics now.


That's funny. I've no interest in living in any big metro center, with
the possible exception of San Francisco. I've been to Atlanta maybe a
half dozen times on business and do not find it appealing. It is
nothing like D.C., which is a pretty small city. If we were to live
again in Florida, we think St. Augustine is livable. We like visiting
Ft. Lauderdale and Miami in the winter, though.


Your fixation on homosexuality will stand you in good stead in SF.
Terrible place anymore. Has been ruined in the last 20-30 years. Homeless
everywhere, even city hall grounds. I grew up across the bay from San
Francisco, liked it. Went to City College of SF, and graduated from SF
State. Worked there for 10 years. The political leaders have trashed the
place. Over taxed, under served.


I spent a week in San Francisco in 74 and it sucked then.

John[_6_] January 24th 21 05:05 PM

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On Sat, 23 Jan 2021 14:23:11 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jan 2021 06:16:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/22/21 9:07 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 10:56:13 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/22/21 10:35 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 07:18:12 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Wayne B Wrote in message:r
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:15:08 -0500, John
wrote:Or, Wayne and Harry, are these just 'peaceful protests' instigated by
Trump?https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/us/protests-portland-seattle-biden.htmlhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/inauguration-day-protests-in-portland-seattle-turned-violent-11611260877How
do you explain that ****? Note that a Federal courthouse was attacked,
butno one was shot.Wow.===Wow indeed. Were there members of
congress inside the courthousetrying to carry out the constitutional
process of certifying thepresidential electoral college votes? Were the
rioters incited by thePOTUS in an attempt to overturn his election
defeat?None of that excuses mob violence of course, no matter where and
whyit happens. I'm also thinking that Portland
needs to make a concertedeffort to identify and arrest some of these
hooligans. I suspectthey've got a hard core group of repeat offenders
that should be dealtwith.

Do we have any numbers yet on the dwindling population of NYC, NY
State, California, and Washington State. Just curious. My
unscientific poll says a significant number of NYers and Fornians
are moving to Florida.

===

Florida has been a popular retirement destination for New Yorkers for
more than 70 years. Over here on the left coast most of our newcomers
are from the mid-west. I call it the I-75 pipeline effect. There has
definitely been a move out of New York City. Between Covid, high tax
rates and crime, there have been a lot of reasons to leave. My oldest
son and his wife have done that, turning their summer home out east
into their year round residence, and working from home.



I gave up trying to convince my wife that my favorite little Connecticut
town, Milford, would be a great place to retire. She's a Southern belle,
and cannot tolerate the winter cold there or the water temperature of
the Sound for swimming in the summer...too cold for her.

Neither of us want to return to Florida. Number One on our "hit list"
are a couple of areas just west of Savannah. Hilton Head is still nice,
but it is pretty congested these days and we noticed that for months at
a time, from spring through September at least, the auto traffic is very
heavy all around the island and just off of it. If you go off-island,
the traffic wait to get back on it is lengthy and annoying. Also, a lot
of the island is looking worn-out. Plus, Georgia seems a bit more
socially progressive than South Carolina, as evidenced that in the
recent elections there, a black minister and a Jew were elected to the
U.S. Senate, both Democrats.

Atlanta might be for you. It is pretty much like DC and I lived in
both places. Those is the people who are driving Georgia politics now.


That's funny. I've no interest in living in any big metro center, with
the possible exception of San Francisco. I've been to Atlanta maybe a
half dozen times on business and do not find it appealing. It is
nothing like D.C., which is a pretty small city. If we were to live
again in Florida, we think St. Augustine is livable. We like visiting
Ft. Lauderdale and Miami in the winter, though.


Your fixation on homosexuality will stand you in good stead in SF.
Terrible place anymore. Has been ruined in the last 20-30 years. Homeless
everywhere, even city hall grounds. I grew up across the bay from San
Francisco, liked it. Went to City College of SF, and graduated from SF
State. Worked there for 10 years. The political leaders have trashed the
place. Over taxed, under served.


I spent a week in San Francisco in 74 and it sucked then.


We visited San Francisco several years ago. I enjoyed the view of the Golden
Gate Bridge from the view point across the bay. The rest of it pretty much
sucked. And I hear it's gone way downhill since then. Of course, being a liberal
who welcomes illegal immigrants, Harry probably finds scenes like this very
comforting.

https://www.google.com/search?q=san+...wT5Ykj4trHAK8M

or:shorturl.at/gnyAM

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Bill[_12_] January 24th 21 05:43 PM

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John wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jan 2021 14:23:11 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jan 2021 06:16:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/22/21 9:07 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 10:56:13 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/22/21 10:35 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 07:18:12 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Wayne B Wrote in message:r
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:15:08 -0500, John
wrote:Or, Wayne and Harry, are these just 'peaceful protests' instigated by
Trump?https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/us/protests-portland-seattle-biden.htmlhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/inauguration-day-protests-in-portland-seattle-turned-violent-11611260877How
do you explain that ****? Note that a Federal courthouse was attacked,
no one was shot.Wow.===Wow indeed. Were there members of
congress inside the courthousetrying to carry out the constitutional
process of certifying thepresidential electoral college votes? Were the
rioters incited by thePOTUS in an attempt to overturn his election
defeat?None of that excuses mob violence of course, no matter where and
whyit happens. I'm also thinking that Portland
needs to make a concertedeffort to identify and arrest some of these
hooligans. I suspectthey've got a hard core group of repeat offenders
that should be dealtwith.

Do we have any numbers yet on the dwindling population of NYC, NY
State, California, and Washington State. Just curious. My
unscientific poll says a significant number of NYers and Fornians
are moving to Florida.

===

Florida has been a popular retirement destination for New Yorkers for
more than 70 years. Over here on the left coast most of our newcomers
are from the mid-west. I call it the I-75 pipeline effect. There has
definitely been a move out of New York City. Between Covid, high tax
rates and crime, there have been a lot of reasons to leave. My oldest
son and his wife have done that, turning their summer home out east
into their year round residence, and working from home.



I gave up trying to convince my wife that my favorite little Connecticut
town, Milford, would be a great place to retire. She's a Southern belle,
and cannot tolerate the winter cold there or the water temperature of
the Sound for swimming in the summer...too cold for her.

Neither of us want to return to Florida. Number One on our "hit list"
are a couple of areas just west of Savannah. Hilton Head is still nice,
but it is pretty congested these days and we noticed that for months at
a time, from spring through September at least, the auto traffic is very
heavy all around the island and just off of it. If you go off-island,
the traffic wait to get back on it is lengthy and annoying. Also, a lot
of the island is looking worn-out. Plus, Georgia seems a bit more
socially progressive than South Carolina, as evidenced that in the
recent elections there, a black minister and a Jew were elected to the
U.S. Senate, both Democrats.

Atlanta might be for you. It is pretty much like DC and I lived in
both places. Those is the people who are driving Georgia politics now.


That's funny. I've no interest in living in any big metro center, with
the possible exception of San Francisco. I've been to Atlanta maybe a
half dozen times on business and do not find it appealing. It is
nothing like D.C., which is a pretty small city. If we were to live
again in Florida, we think St. Augustine is livable. We like visiting
Ft. Lauderdale and Miami in the winter, though.


Your fixation on homosexuality will stand you in good stead in SF.
Terrible place anymore. Has been ruined in the last 20-30 years. Homeless
everywhere, even city hall grounds. I grew up across the bay from San
Francisco, liked it. Went to City College of SF, and graduated from SF
State. Worked there for 10 years. The political leaders have trashed the
place. Over taxed, under served.


I spent a week in San Francisco in 74 and it sucked then.


We visited San Francisco several years ago. I enjoyed the view of the Golden
Gate Bridge from the view point across the bay. The rest of it pretty much
sucked. And I hear it's gone way downhill since then. Of course, being a liberal
who welcomes illegal immigrants, Harry probably finds scenes like this very
comforting.

https://www.google.com/search?q=san+...wT5Ykj4trHAK8M

or:shorturl.at/gnyAM

--

Freedom Isn't Free!


Well, it is a city run by the Newsoms, Browns, Pelosis, and Getty’s. All
very closely related. Nancy is an aunt by marriage to Gavin. Newsom’s dad
was a judge ruling in favor of Gordon Getty heirs trust, and then the Getty
corporate attorney. Gavin is in partnership with Gordon Getty in Plump
Jack winery and restaurants.


[email protected] January 24th 21 10:39 PM

More Riots!
 
On Sun, 24 Jan 2021 12:05:30 -0500, John wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jan 2021 14:23:11 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jan 2021 06:16:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/22/21 9:07 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 10:56:13 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/22/21 10:35 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 07:18:12 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Wayne B Wrote in message:r
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:15:08 -0500, John
wrote:Or, Wayne and Harry, are these just 'peaceful protests' instigated by
Trump?https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/us/protests-portland-seattle-biden.htmlhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/inauguration-day-protests-in-portland-seattle-turned-violent-11611260877How
do you explain that ****? Note that a Federal courthouse was attacked,
butno one was shot.Wow.===Wow indeed. Were there members of
congress inside the courthousetrying to carry out the constitutional
process of certifying thepresidential electoral college votes? Were the
rioters incited by thePOTUS in an attempt to overturn his election
defeat?None of that excuses mob violence of course, no matter where and
whyit happens. I'm also thinking that Portland
needs to make a concertedeffort to identify and arrest some of these
hooligans. I suspectthey've got a hard core group of repeat offenders
that should be dealtwith.

Do we have any numbers yet on the dwindling population of NYC, NY
State, California, and Washington State. Just curious. My
unscientific poll says a significant number of NYers and Fornians
are moving to Florida.

===

Florida has been a popular retirement destination for New Yorkers for
more than 70 years. Over here on the left coast most of our newcomers
are from the mid-west. I call it the I-75 pipeline effect. There has
definitely been a move out of New York City. Between Covid, high tax
rates and crime, there have been a lot of reasons to leave. My oldest
son and his wife have done that, turning their summer home out east
into their year round residence, and working from home.



I gave up trying to convince my wife that my favorite little Connecticut
town, Milford, would be a great place to retire. She's a Southern belle,
and cannot tolerate the winter cold there or the water temperature of
the Sound for swimming in the summer...too cold for her.

Neither of us want to return to Florida. Number One on our "hit list"
are a couple of areas just west of Savannah. Hilton Head is still nice,
but it is pretty congested these days and we noticed that for months at
a time, from spring through September at least, the auto traffic is very
heavy all around the island and just off of it. If you go off-island,
the traffic wait to get back on it is lengthy and annoying. Also, a lot
of the island is looking worn-out. Plus, Georgia seems a bit more
socially progressive than South Carolina, as evidenced that in the
recent elections there, a black minister and a Jew were elected to the
U.S. Senate, both Democrats.

Atlanta might be for you. It is pretty much like DC and I lived in
both places. Those is the people who are driving Georgia politics now.


That's funny. I've no interest in living in any big metro center, with
the possible exception of San Francisco. I've been to Atlanta maybe a
half dozen times on business and do not find it appealing. It is
nothing like D.C., which is a pretty small city. If we were to live
again in Florida, we think St. Augustine is livable. We like visiting
Ft. Lauderdale and Miami in the winter, though.


Your fixation on homosexuality will stand you in good stead in SF.
Terrible place anymore. Has been ruined in the last 20-30 years. Homeless
everywhere, even city hall grounds. I grew up across the bay from San
Francisco, liked it. Went to City College of SF, and graduated from SF
State. Worked there for 10 years. The political leaders have trashed the
place. Over taxed, under served.


I spent a week in San Francisco in 74 and it sucked then.


We visited San Francisco several years ago. I enjoyed the view of the Golden
Gate Bridge from the view point across the bay. The rest of it pretty much
sucked. And I hear it's gone way downhill since then. Of course, being a liberal
who welcomes illegal immigrants, Harry probably finds scenes like this very
comforting.

https://www.google.com/search?q=san+...wT5Ykj4trHAK8M

or:shorturl.at/gnyAM


IBM put is up at the Hyatt (I think) It was that class a hotel anyway
and we had most of it. My favorite spot in the whole city was sitting
on the roof of the cat walk between the 15 floors of the 2 towers. 150
feet above the city is how you should see it., The bay bridge was out
there along with city lights like you would expect. That was great
until someone saw me and thought I was jumping or something. I was
sitting there with my feet dangling over the edge enjoying my
cocktail.
I managed to get inside before the fire department arrived. ;-)

They told me I couldn't do that anymore and they nailed the windows
shut.

Bill[_12_] January 25th 21 01:37 AM

More Riots!
 
wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jan 2021 12:05:30 -0500, John wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jan 2021 14:23:11 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jan 2021 06:16:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/22/21 9:07 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 10:56:13 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/22/21 10:35 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 07:18:12 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Wayne B Wrote in message:r
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:15:08 -0500, John
wrote:Or, Wayne and Harry, are these just 'peaceful protests' instigated by
Trump?https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/us/protests-portland-seattle-biden.htmlhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/inauguration-day-protests-in-portland-seattle-turned-violent-11611260877How
do you explain that ****? Note that a Federal courthouse was attacked,
no one was shot.Wow.===Wow indeed. Were there members of
congress inside the courthousetrying to carry out the constitutional
process of certifying thepresidential electoral college votes? Were the
rioters incited by thePOTUS in an attempt to overturn his election
defeat?None of that excuses mob violence of course, no matter where and
whyit happens. I'm also thinking that Portland
needs to make a concertedeffort to identify and arrest some of these
hooligans. I suspectthey've got a hard core group of repeat offenders
that should be dealtwith.

Do we have any numbers yet on the dwindling population of NYC, NY
State, California, and Washington State. Just curious. My
unscientific poll says a significant number of NYers and Fornians
are moving to Florida.

===

Florida has been a popular retirement destination for New Yorkers for
more than 70 years. Over here on the left coast most of our newcomers
are from the mid-west. I call it the I-75 pipeline effect. There has
definitely been a move out of New York City. Between Covid, high tax
rates and crime, there have been a lot of reasons to leave. My oldest
son and his wife have done that, turning their summer home out east
into their year round residence, and working from home.



I gave up trying to convince my wife that my favorite little Connecticut
town, Milford, would be a great place to retire. She's a Southern belle,
and cannot tolerate the winter cold there or the water temperature of
the Sound for swimming in the summer...too cold for her.

Neither of us want to return to Florida. Number One on our "hit list"
are a couple of areas just west of Savannah. Hilton Head is still nice,
but it is pretty congested these days and we noticed that for months at
a time, from spring through September at least, the auto traffic is very
heavy all around the island and just off of it. If you go off-island,
the traffic wait to get back on it is lengthy and annoying. Also, a lot
of the island is looking worn-out. Plus, Georgia seems a bit more
socially progressive than South Carolina, as evidenced that in the
recent elections there, a black minister and a Jew were elected to the
U.S. Senate, both Democrats.

Atlanta might be for you. It is pretty much like DC and I lived in
both places. Those is the people who are driving Georgia politics now.


That's funny. I've no interest in living in any big metro center, with
the possible exception of San Francisco. I've been to Atlanta maybe a
half dozen times on business and do not find it appealing. It is
nothing like D.C., which is a pretty small city. If we were to live
again in Florida, we think St. Augustine is livable. We like visiting
Ft. Lauderdale and Miami in the winter, though.


Your fixation on homosexuality will stand you in good stead in SF.
Terrible place anymore. Has been ruined in the last 20-30 years. Homeless
everywhere, even city hall grounds. I grew up across the bay from San
Francisco, liked it. Went to City College of SF, and graduated from SF
State. Worked there for 10 years. The political leaders have trashed the
place. Over taxed, under served.

I spent a week in San Francisco in 74 and it sucked then.


We visited San Francisco several years ago. I enjoyed the view of the Golden
Gate Bridge from the view point across the bay. The rest of it pretty much
sucked. And I hear it's gone way downhill since then. Of course, being a liberal
who welcomes illegal immigrants, Harry probably finds scenes like this very
comforting.

https://www.google.com/search?q=san+...wT5Ykj4trHAK8M

or:shorturl.at/gnyAM


IBM put is up at the Hyatt (I think) It was that class a hotel anyway
and we had most of it. My favorite spot in the whole city was sitting
on the roof of the cat walk between the 15 floors of the 2 towers. 150
feet above the city is how you should see it., The bay bridge was out
there along with city lights like you would expect. That was great
until someone saw me and thought I was jumping or something. I was
sitting there with my feet dangling over the edge enjoying my
cocktail.
I managed to get inside before the fire department arrived. ;-)

They told me I couldn't do that anymore and they nailed the windows
shut.


The best was the Jack Tar hotel. They had a rotating cylinder sign on the
roof. Sit on the edge and get a 360 degrees view. I think it is now the
Cathedral Hill Hotel.


[email protected] January 25th 21 07:21 AM

More Riots!
 
On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 01:37:28 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jan 2021 12:05:30 -0500, John wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jan 2021 14:23:11 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jan 2021 06:16:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/22/21 9:07 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 10:56:13 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/22/21 10:35 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 07:18:12 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Wayne B Wrote in message:r
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:15:08 -0500, John
wrote:Or, Wayne and Harry, are these just 'peaceful protests' instigated by
Trump?https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/us/protests-portland-seattle-biden.htmlhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/inauguration-day-protests-in-portland-seattle-turned-violent-11611260877How
do you explain that ****? Note that a Federal courthouse was attacked,
no one was shot.Wow.===Wow indeed. Were there members of
congress inside the courthousetrying to carry out the constitutional
process of certifying thepresidential electoral college votes? Were the
rioters incited by thePOTUS in an attempt to overturn his election
defeat?None of that excuses mob violence of course, no matter where and
whyit happens. I'm also thinking that Portland
needs to make a concertedeffort to identify and arrest some of these
hooligans. I suspectthey've got a hard core group of repeat offenders
that should be dealtwith.

Do we have any numbers yet on the dwindling population of NYC, NY
State, California, and Washington State. Just curious. My
unscientific poll says a significant number of NYers and Fornians
are moving to Florida.

===

Florida has been a popular retirement destination for New Yorkers for
more than 70 years. Over here on the left coast most of our newcomers
are from the mid-west. I call it the I-75 pipeline effect. There has
definitely been a move out of New York City. Between Covid, high tax
rates and crime, there have been a lot of reasons to leave. My oldest
son and his wife have done that, turning their summer home out east
into their year round residence, and working from home.



I gave up trying to convince my wife that my favorite little Connecticut
town, Milford, would be a great place to retire. She's a Southern belle,
and cannot tolerate the winter cold there or the water temperature of
the Sound for swimming in the summer...too cold for her.

Neither of us want to return to Florida. Number One on our "hit list"
are a couple of areas just west of Savannah. Hilton Head is still nice,
but it is pretty congested these days and we noticed that for months at
a time, from spring through September at least, the auto traffic is very
heavy all around the island and just off of it. If you go off-island,
the traffic wait to get back on it is lengthy and annoying. Also, a lot
of the island is looking worn-out. Plus, Georgia seems a bit more
socially progressive than South Carolina, as evidenced that in the
recent elections there, a black minister and a Jew were elected to the
U.S. Senate, both Democrats.

Atlanta might be for you. It is pretty much like DC and I lived in
both places. Those is the people who are driving Georgia politics now.


That's funny. I've no interest in living in any big metro center, with
the possible exception of San Francisco. I've been to Atlanta maybe a
half dozen times on business and do not find it appealing. It is
nothing like D.C., which is a pretty small city. If we were to live
again in Florida, we think St. Augustine is livable. We like visiting
Ft. Lauderdale and Miami in the winter, though.


Your fixation on homosexuality will stand you in good stead in SF.
Terrible place anymore. Has been ruined in the last 20-30 years. Homeless
everywhere, even city hall grounds. I grew up across the bay from San
Francisco, liked it. Went to City College of SF, and graduated from SF
State. Worked there for 10 years. The political leaders have trashed the
place. Over taxed, under served.

I spent a week in San Francisco in 74 and it sucked then.

We visited San Francisco several years ago. I enjoyed the view of the Golden
Gate Bridge from the view point across the bay. The rest of it pretty much
sucked. And I hear it's gone way downhill since then. Of course, being a liberal
who welcomes illegal immigrants, Harry probably finds scenes like this very
comforting.

https://www.google.com/search?q=san+...wT5Ykj4trHAK8M

or:shorturl.at/gnyAM


IBM put is up at the Hyatt (I think) It was that class a hotel anyway
and we had most of it. My favorite spot in the whole city was sitting
on the roof of the cat walk between the 15 floors of the 2 towers. 150
feet above the city is how you should see it., The bay bridge was out
there along with city lights like you would expect. That was great
until someone saw me and thought I was jumping or something. I was
sitting there with my feet dangling over the edge enjoying my
cocktail.
I managed to get inside before the fire department arrived. ;-)

They told me I couldn't do that anymore and they nailed the windows
shut.


The best was the Jack Tar hotel. They had a rotating cylinder sign on the
roof. Sit on the edge and get a 360 degrees view. I think it is now the
Cathedral Hill Hotel.


You probably know the hotel I am talking about. It is in the
tenderloin, 2 tall towers with a catwalk between them on the 16th
floor. I am thinking Hyatt.

Bill[_12_] January 25th 21 07:32 PM

More Riots!
 
wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 01:37:28 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jan 2021 12:05:30 -0500, John wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jan 2021 14:23:11 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jan 2021 06:16:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/22/21 9:07 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 10:56:13 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/22/21 10:35 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 07:18:12 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Wayne B Wrote in message:r
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:15:08 -0500, John
wrote:Or, Wayne and Harry, are these just 'peaceful protests' instigated by
Trump?https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/us/protests-portland-seattle-biden.htmlhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/inauguration-day-protests-in-portland-seattle-turned-violent-11611260877How
do you explain that ****? Note that a Federal courthouse was attacked,
no one was shot.Wow.===Wow indeed. Were there members of
congress inside the courthousetrying to carry out the constitutional
process of certifying thepresidential electoral college votes? Were the
rioters incited by thePOTUS in an attempt to overturn his election
defeat?None of that excuses mob violence of course, no matter where and
whyit happens. I'm also thinking that Portland
needs to make a concertedeffort to identify and arrest some of these
hooligans. I suspectthey've got a hard core group of repeat offenders
that should be dealtwith.

Do we have any numbers yet on the dwindling population of NYC, NY
State, California, and Washington State. Just curious. My
unscientific poll says a significant number of NYers and Fornians
are moving to Florida.

===

Florida has been a popular retirement destination for New Yorkers for
more than 70 years. Over here on the left coast most of our newcomers
are from the mid-west. I call it the I-75 pipeline effect. There has
definitely been a move out of New York City. Between Covid, high tax
rates and crime, there have been a lot of reasons to leave. My oldest
son and his wife have done that, turning their summer home out east
into their year round residence, and working from home.



I gave up trying to convince my wife that my favorite little Connecticut
town, Milford, would be a great place to retire. She's a Southern belle,
and cannot tolerate the winter cold there or the water temperature of
the Sound for swimming in the summer...too cold for her.

Neither of us want to return to Florida. Number One on our "hit list"
are a couple of areas just west of Savannah. Hilton Head is still nice,
but it is pretty congested these days and we noticed that for months at
a time, from spring through September at least, the auto traffic is very
heavy all around the island and just off of it. If you go off-island,
the traffic wait to get back on it is lengthy and annoying. Also, a lot
of the island is looking worn-out. Plus, Georgia seems a bit more
socially progressive than South Carolina, as evidenced that in the
recent elections there, a black minister and a Jew were elected to the
U.S. Senate, both Democrats.

Atlanta might be for you. It is pretty much like DC and I lived in
both places. Those is the people who are driving Georgia politics now.


That's funny. I've no interest in living in any big metro center, with
the possible exception of San Francisco. I've been to Atlanta maybe a
half dozen times on business and do not find it appealing. It is
nothing like D.C., which is a pretty small city. If we were to live
again in Florida, we think St. Augustine is livable. We like visiting
Ft. Lauderdale and Miami in the winter, though.


Your fixation on homosexuality will stand you in good stead in SF.
Terrible place anymore. Has been ruined in the last 20-30 years. Homeless
everywhere, even city hall grounds. I grew up across the bay from San
Francisco, liked it. Went to City College of SF, and graduated from SF
State. Worked there for 10 years. The political leaders have trashed the
place. Over taxed, under served.

I spent a week in San Francisco in 74 and it sucked then.

We visited San Francisco several years ago. I enjoyed the view of the Golden
Gate Bridge from the view point across the bay. The rest of it pretty much
sucked. And I hear it's gone way downhill since then. Of course, being a liberal
who welcomes illegal immigrants, Harry probably finds scenes like this very
comforting.

https://www.google.com/search?q=san+...wT5Ykj4trHAK8M

or:shorturl.at/gnyAM

IBM put is up at the Hyatt (I think) It was that class a hotel anyway
and we had most of it. My favorite spot in the whole city was sitting
on the roof of the cat walk between the 15 floors of the 2 towers. 150
feet above the city is how you should see it., The bay bridge was out
there along with city lights like you would expect. That was great
until someone saw me and thought I was jumping or something. I was
sitting there with my feet dangling over the edge enjoying my
cocktail.
I managed to get inside before the fire department arrived. ;-)

They told me I couldn't do that anymore and they nailed the windows
shut.


The best was the Jack Tar hotel. They had a rotating cylinder sign on the
roof. Sit on the edge and get a 360 degrees view. I think it is now the
Cathedral Hill Hotel.


You probably know the hotel I am talking about. It is in the
tenderloin, 2 tall towers with a catwalk between them on the 16th
floor. I am thinking Hyatt.


Might be the Hyatt Regency. But that is more financial district and not
Tenderloin. I worked nights in the Tenderloin for years. We had the
computer systems in Macy’s and Capwells. The night entrance for Capwells
was an alley where those living in the street lived.


Keyser Söze[_3_] January 25th 21 07:38 PM

More Riots!
 
On 1/25/21 2:32 PM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 01:37:28 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jan 2021 12:05:30 -0500, John wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jan 2021 14:23:11 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jan 2021 06:16:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/22/21 9:07 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 10:56:13 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/22/21 10:35 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 07:18:12 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Wayne B Wrote in message:r
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:15:08 -0500, John
wrote:Or, Wayne and Harry, are these just 'peaceful protests' instigated by
Trump?https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/us/protests-portland-seattle-biden.htmlhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/inauguration-day-protests-in-portland-seattle-turned-violent-11611260877How
do you explain that ****? Note that a Federal courthouse was attacked,
no one was shot.Wow.===Wow indeed. Were there members of
congress inside the courthousetrying to carry out the constitutional
process of certifying thepresidential electoral college votes? Were the
rioters incited by thePOTUS in an attempt to overturn his election
defeat?None of that excuses mob violence of course, no matter where and
whyit happens. I'm also thinking that Portland
needs to make a concertedeffort to identify and arrest some of these
hooligans. I suspectthey've got a hard core group of repeat offenders
that should be dealtwith.

Do we have any numbers yet on the dwindling population of NYC, NY
State, California, and Washington State. Just curious. My
unscientific poll says a significant number of NYers and Fornians
are moving to Florida.

===

Florida has been a popular retirement destination for New Yorkers for
more than 70 years. Over here on the left coast most of our newcomers
are from the mid-west. I call it the I-75 pipeline effect. There has
definitely been a move out of New York City. Between Covid, high tax
rates and crime, there have been a lot of reasons to leave. My oldest
son and his wife have done that, turning their summer home out east
into their year round residence, and working from home.



I gave up trying to convince my wife that my favorite little Connecticut
town, Milford, would be a great place to retire. She's a Southern belle,
and cannot tolerate the winter cold there or the water temperature of
the Sound for swimming in the summer...too cold for her.

Neither of us want to return to Florida. Number One on our "hit list"
are a couple of areas just west of Savannah. Hilton Head is still nice,
but it is pretty congested these days and we noticed that for months at
a time, from spring through September at least, the auto traffic is very
heavy all around the island and just off of it. If you go off-island,
the traffic wait to get back on it is lengthy and annoying. Also, a lot
of the island is looking worn-out. Plus, Georgia seems a bit more
socially progressive than South Carolina, as evidenced that in the
recent elections there, a black minister and a Jew were elected to the
U.S. Senate, both Democrats.

Atlanta might be for you. It is pretty much like DC and I lived in
both places. Those is the people who are driving Georgia politics now.


That's funny. I've no interest in living in any big metro center, with
the possible exception of San Francisco. I've been to Atlanta maybe a
half dozen times on business and do not find it appealing. It is
nothing like D.C., which is a pretty small city. If we were to live
again in Florida, we think St. Augustine is livable. We like visiting
Ft. Lauderdale and Miami in the winter, though.


Your fixation on homosexuality will stand you in good stead in SF.
Terrible place anymore. Has been ruined in the last 20-30 years. Homeless
everywhere, even city hall grounds. I grew up across the bay from San
Francisco, liked it. Went to City College of SF, and graduated from SF
State. Worked there for 10 years. The political leaders have trashed the
place. Over taxed, under served.

I spent a week in San Francisco in 74 and it sucked then.

We visited San Francisco several years ago. I enjoyed the view of the Golden
Gate Bridge from the view point across the bay. The rest of it pretty much
sucked. And I hear it's gone way downhill since then. Of course, being a liberal
who welcomes illegal immigrants, Harry probably finds scenes like this very
comforting.

https://www.google.com/search?q=san+...wT5Ykj4trHAK8M

or:shorturl.at/gnyAM

IBM put is up at the Hyatt (I think) It was that class a hotel anyway
and we had most of it. My favorite spot in the whole city was sitting
on the roof of the cat walk between the 15 floors of the 2 towers. 150
feet above the city is how you should see it., The bay bridge was out
there along with city lights like you would expect. That was great
until someone saw me and thought I was jumping or something. I was
sitting there with my feet dangling over the edge enjoying my
cocktail.
I managed to get inside before the fire department arrived. ;-)

They told me I couldn't do that anymore and they nailed the windows
shut.


The best was the Jack Tar hotel. They had a rotating cylinder sign on the
roof. Sit on the edge and get a 360 degrees view. I think it is now the
Cathedral Hill Hotel.


You probably know the hotel I am talking about. It is in the
tenderloin, 2 tall towers with a catwalk between them on the 16th
floor. I am thinking Hyatt.


Might be the Hyatt Regency. But that is more financial district and not
Tenderloin. I worked nights in the Tenderloin for years. We had the
computer systems in Macy’s and Capwells. The night entrance for Capwells
was an alley where those living in the street lived.


We liked the Hotel Union Square if we were paying for the rooms. Old
hotel, not a cookie cutter place, small parking lot, right on
transportation lines, close to Macy's and some of our favorite restaurants.

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Bill[_12_] January 25th 21 11:26 PM

More Riots!
 
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/25/21 2:32 PM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 01:37:28 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jan 2021 12:05:30 -0500, John wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jan 2021 14:23:11 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jan 2021 06:16:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/22/21 9:07 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 10:56:13 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/22/21 10:35 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 07:18:12 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Wayne B Wrote in message:r
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:15:08 -0500, John
wrote:Or, Wayne and Harry, are these just 'peaceful protests' instigated by
Trump?https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/us/protests-portland-seattle-biden.htmlhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/inauguration-day-protests-in-portland-seattle-turned-violent-11611260877How
do you explain that ****? Note that a Federal courthouse was attacked,
no one was shot.Wow.===Wow indeed. Were there members of
congress inside the courthousetrying to carry out the constitutional
process of certifying thepresidential electoral college votes? Were the
rioters incited by thePOTUS in an attempt to overturn his election
defeat?None of that excuses mob violence of course, no matter where and
whyit happens. I'm also thinking that Portland
needs to make a concertedeffort to identify and arrest some of these
hooligans. I suspectthey've got a hard core group of repeat offenders
that should be dealtwith.

Do we have any numbers yet on the dwindling population of NYC, NY
State, California, and Washington State. Just curious. My
unscientific poll says a significant number of NYers and Fornians
are moving to Florida.

===

Florida has been a popular retirement destination for New Yorkers for
more than 70 years. Over here on the left coast most of our newcomers
are from the mid-west. I call it the I-75 pipeline effect. There has
definitely been a move out of New York City. Between Covid, high tax
rates and crime, there have been a lot of reasons to leave. My oldest
son and his wife have done that, turning their summer home out east
into their year round residence, and working from home.



I gave up trying to convince my wife that my favorite little Connecticut
town, Milford, would be a great place to retire. She's a Southern belle,
and cannot tolerate the winter cold there or the water temperature of
the Sound for swimming in the summer...too cold for her.

Neither of us want to return to Florida. Number One on our "hit list"
are a couple of areas just west of Savannah. Hilton Head is still nice,
but it is pretty congested these days and we noticed that for months at
a time, from spring through September at least, the auto traffic is very
heavy all around the island and just off of it. If you go off-island,
the traffic wait to get back on it is lengthy and annoying. Also, a lot
of the island is looking worn-out. Plus, Georgia seems a bit more
socially progressive than South Carolina, as evidenced that in the
recent elections there, a black minister and a Jew were elected to the
U.S. Senate, both Democrats.

Atlanta might be for you. It is pretty much like DC and I lived in
both places. Those is the people who are driving Georgia politics now.


That's funny. I've no interest in living in any big metro center, with
the possible exception of San Francisco. I've been to Atlanta maybe a
half dozen times on business and do not find it appealing. It is
nothing like D.C., which is a pretty small city. If we were to live
again in Florida, we think St. Augustine is livable. We like visiting
Ft. Lauderdale and Miami in the winter, though.


Your fixation on homosexuality will stand you in good stead in SF.
Terrible place anymore. Has been ruined in the last 20-30 years. Homeless
everywhere, even city hall grounds. I grew up across the bay from San
Francisco, liked it. Went to City College of SF, and graduated from SF
State. Worked there for 10 years. The political leaders have trashed the
place. Over taxed, under served.

I spent a week in San Francisco in 74 and it sucked then.

We visited San Francisco several years ago. I enjoyed the view of the Golden
Gate Bridge from the view point across the bay. The rest of it pretty much
sucked. And I hear it's gone way downhill since then. Of course, being a liberal
who welcomes illegal immigrants, Harry probably finds scenes like this very
comforting.

https://www.google.com/search?q=san+...wT5Ykj4trHAK8M

or:shorturl.at/gnyAM

IBM put is up at the Hyatt (I think) It was that class a hotel anyway
and we had most of it. My favorite spot in the whole city was sitting
on the roof of the cat walk between the 15 floors of the 2 towers. 150
feet above the city is how you should see it., The bay bridge was out
there along with city lights like you would expect. That was great
until someone saw me and thought I was jumping or something. I was
sitting there with my feet dangling over the edge enjoying my
cocktail.
I managed to get inside before the fire department arrived. ;-)

They told me I couldn't do that anymore and they nailed the windows
shut.


The best was the Jack Tar hotel. They had a rotating cylinder sign on the
roof. Sit on the edge and get a 360 degrees view. I think it is now the
Cathedral Hill Hotel.

You probably know the hotel I am talking about. It is in the
tenderloin, 2 tall towers with a catwalk between them on the 16th
floor. I am thinking Hyatt.


Might be the Hyatt Regency. But that is more financial district and not
Tenderloin. I worked nights in the Tenderloin for years. We had the
computer systems in Macy’s and Capwells. The night entrance for Capwells
was an alley where those living in the street lived.


We liked the Hotel Union Square if we were paying for the rooms. Old
hotel, not a cookie cutter place, small parking lot, right on
transportation lines, close to Macy's and some of our favorite restaurants.


Look at the Handlery Hotel. Nice place, reasonable and great location.



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