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The female rioter who was shot...
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On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 19:01:19 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/7/21 4:25 PM, wrote: On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:42:21 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:16:01 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 13:22:10 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: A woman shot and killed by police during the storming of the US Capitol by a pro-Donald Trump mob has been named as a 14-year veteran of the US air force and of four foreign military tours, including to Iraq and Afghanistan. Ashli Babbitt, 35, had travelled to Washington DC from San Diego, her husband told the local news station KUSI, adding that she was a passionate Trump supporter. Three other people died from “medical emergencies” during Wednesday’s siege of the Capitol, according to the Washington DC police chief, Robert Contee. Contee has confirmed to reporters a woman was shot by Capitol police – a federal law enforcement agency responsible for protecting the US Congress – but has not released further details. Less than a day before she joined the Trump loyalist protest, Babbitt, an avowed and public Trump supporter as well as a subscriber to a number of alt-right conspiracy theories, had vowed the insurrectionist movement could never be halted. “Nothing will stop us … they can try and try and try but the storm is here and it is descending upon DC in less than 24 hours … dark to light!” she wrote on Twitter. ***Babbitt, 35, was reportedly shot as she and other rioters tried to break through a barricaded door in the building where Capitol police officers were armed on the other side.*** On video footage circulating on social media, a single gunshot is heard during an attempt to storm the barricaded door. Other footage shows police attempting to perform emergency first aid on a woman lying on the floor bleeding. Babbitt was taken to hospital with a gunshot wound but later pronounced dead. On Twitter, Babbitt described herself as a veteran and a *libertarian.* Her social media account is filled with declarations of support for Trump and condemnation of November’s presidential election, which Trump lost. She also retailed many of the conspiracy theories shared by alt-right groups, including one about a vast network of high-profile and powerful paedophiles. Babbitt regularly retweeted controversial lawyer and conspiracy theorist Lin Wood, a high-profile Trump supporter who has litigated several of the president’s failed lawsuits contesting the election result. https://tinyurl.com/y527xldk She was a *libertarian* and Trump supporter. What a combination. The only thing missing is that "imminent threat to the officer's life". === The guard was hired to protect government property and members of congress. He was issued a firearm to enforce that. No threat to his own life was required to justify deadly force. It's a similar situation to an armed guard anywhere. You better read up on the justified use of force again before you walk out the door with your gun. There are cops going to jail for shooting people trying to protect property. The cops have the same obligation to demonstrate an imminent fear for their life as you do. In fact, in DC, the cops have about the same "stand your ground" protection as we do as civilians in Florida. You don't have to retreat but you can't shoot until you are ready to demonstrate that imminent fear. Civilians there have the obligation of retreat. News reports stated the woman was part of a crowd using stanchions and flag pole holders to bust through glass doors and windows to gain entrance to other parts of the Capitol. She got shot in the act of doing that. She wasn't on a street corner selling loose cigarettes. She also was not threatening the officer, she was breaking a window. Can they shoot people who break windows to get into stores? OK by me but I bet you don't agree. In fact one of the BLM thugs shot a retired cop ( David Dorn) trying to protect a store. I don't think they ever caught the shooter. How would you know what she was doing? Also, had she remained outside on the grounds of the Capitol, she could be home by now. But she engaged in several federal crimes once she stormed that federal building and engaged in criminal behavior inside. -- Lock Trump Up |
The female rioter who was shot...
On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:58:16 -0500, John wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:42:21 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:16:01 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 13:22:10 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote: A woman shot and killed by police during the storming of the US Capitol by a pro-Donald Trump mob has been named as a 14-year veteran of the US air force and of four foreign military tours, including to Iraq and Afghanistan. Ashli Babbitt, 35, had travelled to Washington DC from San Diego, her husband told the local news station KUSI, adding that she was a passionate Trump supporter. Three other people died from medical emergencies during Wednesdays siege of the Capitol, according to the Washington DC police chief, Robert Contee. Contee has confirmed to reporters a woman was shot by Capitol police a federal law enforcement agency responsible for protecting the US Congress but has not released further details. Less than a day before she joined the Trump loyalist protest, Babbitt, an avowed and public Trump supporter as well as a subscriber to a number of alt-right conspiracy theories, had vowed the insurrectionist movement could never be halted. Nothing will stop us they can try and try and try but the storm is here and it is descending upon DC in less than 24 hours dark to light! she wrote on Twitter. ***Babbitt, 35, was reportedly shot as she and other rioters tried to break through a barricaded door in the building where Capitol police officers were armed on the other side.*** On video footage circulating on social media, a single gunshot is heard during an attempt to storm the barricaded door. Other footage shows police attempting to perform emergency first aid on a woman lying on the floor bleeding. Babbitt was taken to hospital with a gunshot wound but later pronounced dead. On Twitter, Babbitt described herself as a veteran and a *libertarian.* Her social media account is filled with declarations of support for Trump and condemnation of Novembers presidential election, which Trump lost. She also retailed many of the conspiracy theories shared by alt-right groups, including one about a vast network of high-profile and powerful paedophiles. Babbitt regularly retweeted controversial lawyer and conspiracy theorist Lin Wood, a high-profile Trump supporter who has litigated several of the presidents failed lawsuits contesting the election result. https://tinyurl.com/y527xldk She was a *libertarian* and Trump supporter. What a combination. The only thing missing is that "imminent threat to the officer's life". === The guard was hired to protect government property and members of congress. He was issued a firearm to enforce that. No threat to his own life was required to justify deadly force. It's a similar situation to an armed guard anywhere. So those who attacked the Federal Courthouse in Portland should have been shot? Bull****. === Why do you keep bringing up Portland? Are you making excuses for Trump and his mob of insurrectionists? https://www.wsj.com/articles/bring-the-insurrectionists-to-justice-11610065179 |
The female rioter who was shot...
On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 16:25:48 -0500, wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:42:21 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:16:01 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 13:22:10 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote: A woman shot and killed by police during the storming of the US Capitol by a pro-Donald Trump mob has been named as a 14-year veteran of the US air force and of four foreign military tours, including to Iraq and Afghanistan. Ashli Babbitt, 35, had travelled to Washington DC from San Diego, her husband told the local news station KUSI, adding that she was a passionate Trump supporter. Three other people died from medical emergencies during Wednesdays siege of the Capitol, according to the Washington DC police chief, Robert Contee. Contee has confirmed to reporters a woman was shot by Capitol police a federal law enforcement agency responsible for protecting the US Congress but has not released further details. Less than a day before she joined the Trump loyalist protest, Babbitt, an avowed and public Trump supporter as well as a subscriber to a number of alt-right conspiracy theories, had vowed the insurrectionist movement could never be halted. Nothing will stop us they can try and try and try but the storm is here and it is descending upon DC in less than 24 hours dark to light! she wrote on Twitter. ***Babbitt, 35, was reportedly shot as she and other rioters tried to break through a barricaded door in the building where Capitol police officers were armed on the other side.*** On video footage circulating on social media, a single gunshot is heard during an attempt to storm the barricaded door. Other footage shows police attempting to perform emergency first aid on a woman lying on the floor bleeding. Babbitt was taken to hospital with a gunshot wound but later pronounced dead. On Twitter, Babbitt described herself as a veteran and a *libertarian.* Her social media account is filled with declarations of support for Trump and condemnation of Novembers presidential election, which Trump lost. She also retailed many of the conspiracy theories shared by alt-right groups, including one about a vast network of high-profile and powerful paedophiles. Babbitt regularly retweeted controversial lawyer and conspiracy theorist Lin Wood, a high-profile Trump supporter who has litigated several of the presidents failed lawsuits contesting the election result. https://tinyurl.com/y527xldk She was a *libertarian* and Trump supporter. What a combination. The only thing missing is that "imminent threat to the officer's life". === The guard was hired to protect government property and members of congress. He was issued a firearm to enforce that. No threat to his own life was required to justify deadly force. It's a similar situation to an armed guard anywhere. You better read up on the justified use of force again before you walk out the door with your gun. There are cops going to jail for shooting people trying to protect property. The cops have the same obligation to demonstrate an imminent fear for their life as you do. In fact, in DC, the cops have about the same "stand your ground" protection as we do as civilians in Florida. You don't have to retreat but you can't shoot until you are ready to demonstrate that imminent fear. Civilians there have the obligation of retreat. === Armed guards are not cops. Try to run a checkpoint at a highly secure military facility and see how far you get. Try to assault the president and see how far you get. The woman who was shot was trying to force her way into a facility holding members of congress. No matter what we may think of them, they are entitled to protection also. |
The female rioter who was shot...
On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 01:15:23 -0000 (UTC), Keyser Soze
wrote: wrote: On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 19:01:19 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/7/21 4:25 PM, wrote: On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:42:21 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:16:01 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 13:22:10 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: A woman shot and killed by police during the storming of the US Capitol by a pro-Donald Trump mob has been named as a 14-year veteran of the US air force and of four foreign military tours, including to Iraq and Afghanistan. Ashli Babbitt, 35, had travelled to Washington DC from San Diego, her husband told the local news station KUSI, adding that she was a passionate Trump supporter. Three other people died from “medical emergencies” during Wednesday’s siege of the Capitol, according to the Washington DC police chief, Robert Contee. Contee has confirmed to reporters a woman was shot by Capitol police – a federal law enforcement agency responsible for protecting the US Congress – but has not released further details. Less than a day before she joined the Trump loyalist protest, Babbitt, an avowed and public Trump supporter as well as a subscriber to a number of alt-right conspiracy theories, had vowed the insurrectionist movement could never be halted. “Nothing will stop us … they can try and try and try but the storm is here and it is descending upon DC in less than 24 hours … dark to light!” she wrote on Twitter. ***Babbitt, 35, was reportedly shot as she and other rioters tried to break through a barricaded door in the building where Capitol police officers were armed on the other side.*** On video footage circulating on social media, a single gunshot is heard during an attempt to storm the barricaded door. Other footage shows police attempting to perform emergency first aid on a woman lying on the floor bleeding. Babbitt was taken to hospital with a gunshot wound but later pronounced dead. On Twitter, Babbitt described herself as a veteran and a *libertarian.* Her social media account is filled with declarations of support for Trump and condemnation of November’s presidential election, which Trump lost. She also retailed many of the conspiracy theories shared by alt-right groups, including one about a vast network of high-profile and powerful paedophiles. Babbitt regularly retweeted controversial lawyer and conspiracy theorist Lin Wood, a high-profile Trump supporter who has litigated several of the president’s failed lawsuits contesting the election result. https://tinyurl.com/y527xldk She was a *libertarian* and Trump supporter. What a combination. The only thing missing is that "imminent threat to the officer's life". === The guard was hired to protect government property and members of congress. He was issued a firearm to enforce that. No threat to his own life was required to justify deadly force. It's a similar situation to an armed guard anywhere. You better read up on the justified use of force again before you walk out the door with your gun. There are cops going to jail for shooting people trying to protect property. The cops have the same obligation to demonstrate an imminent fear for their life as you do. In fact, in DC, the cops have about the same "stand your ground" protection as we do as civilians in Florida. You don't have to retreat but you can't shoot until you are ready to demonstrate that imminent fear. Civilians there have the obligation of retreat. News reports stated the woman was part of a crowd using stanchions and flag pole holders to bust through glass doors and windows to gain entrance to other parts of the Capitol. She got shot in the act of doing that. She wasn't on a street corner selling loose cigarettes. She also was not threatening the officer, she was breaking a window. Can they shoot people who break windows to get into stores? OK by me but I bet you don't agree. In fact one of the BLM thugs shot a retired cop ( David Dorn) trying to protect a store. I don't think they ever caught the shooter. How would you know what she was doing? Also, had she remained outside on the grounds of the Capitol, she could be home by now. But she engaged in several federal crimes once she stormed that federal building and engaged in criminal behavior inside. Yeah, she was killed for trespassing. Did they shoot the Vietnam protestors that stormed the pentagon? |
The female rioter who was shot...
On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 23:27:40 -0500, Wayne B
wrote: On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:58:16 -0500, John wrote: On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:42:21 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:16:01 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 13:22:10 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: A woman shot and killed by police during the storming of the US Capitol by a pro-Donald Trump mob has been named as a 14-year veteran of the US air force and of four foreign military tours, including to Iraq and Afghanistan. Ashli Babbitt, 35, had travelled to Washington DC from San Diego, her husband told the local news station KUSI, adding that she was a passionate Trump supporter. Three other people died from “medical emergencies” during Wednesday’s siege of the Capitol, according to the Washington DC police chief, Robert Contee. Contee has confirmed to reporters a woman was shot by Capitol police – a federal law enforcement agency responsible for protecting the US Congress – but has not released further details. Less than a day before she joined the Trump loyalist protest, Babbitt, an avowed and public Trump supporter as well as a subscriber to a number of alt-right conspiracy theories, had vowed the insurrectionist movement could never be halted. “Nothing will stop us … they can try and try and try but the storm is here and it is descending upon DC in less than 24 hours … dark to light!” she wrote on Twitter. ***Babbitt, 35, was reportedly shot as she and other rioters tried to break through a barricaded door in the building where Capitol police officers were armed on the other side.*** On video footage circulating on social media, a single gunshot is heard during an attempt to storm the barricaded door. Other footage shows police attempting to perform emergency first aid on a woman lying on the floor bleeding. Babbitt was taken to hospital with a gunshot wound but later pronounced dead. On Twitter, Babbitt described herself as a veteran and a *libertarian.* Her social media account is filled with declarations of support for Trump and condemnation of November’s presidential election, which Trump lost. She also retailed many of the conspiracy theories shared by alt-right groups, including one about a vast network of high-profile and powerful paedophiles. Babbitt regularly retweeted controversial lawyer and conspiracy theorist Lin Wood, a high-profile Trump supporter who has litigated several of the president’s failed lawsuits contesting the election result. https://tinyurl.com/y527xldk She was a *libertarian* and Trump supporter. What a combination. The only thing missing is that "imminent threat to the officer's life". === The guard was hired to protect government property and members of congress. He was issued a firearm to enforce that. No threat to his own life was required to justify deadly force. It's a similar situation to an armed guard anywhere. So those who attacked the Federal Courthouse in Portland should have been shot? Bull****. === Why do you keep bringing up Portland? Are you making excuses for Trump and his mob of insurrectionists? https://www.wsj.com/articles/bring-the-insurrectionists-to-justice-11610065179 The left keeps bringing it up. There were 6 people on NBC tonight bringing that analogy and saying they treated the portland protestors worse but I don't remember them shooting any protestors and those protestors were throwing mortar shells and molotov cocktails at the cops. There was not a single fire in the capitol and the vandalism was pretty minor compared to ANY BLM protest. |
The female rioter who was shot...
On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 23:35:26 -0500, Wayne B
wrote: On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 16:25:48 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:42:21 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:16:01 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 13:22:10 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: A woman shot and killed by police during the storming of the US Capitol by a pro-Donald Trump mob has been named as a 14-year veteran of the US air force and of four foreign military tours, including to Iraq and Afghanistan. Ashli Babbitt, 35, had travelled to Washington DC from San Diego, her husband told the local news station KUSI, adding that she was a passionate Trump supporter. Three other people died from “medical emergencies” during Wednesday’s siege of the Capitol, according to the Washington DC police chief, Robert Contee. Contee has confirmed to reporters a woman was shot by Capitol police – a federal law enforcement agency responsible for protecting the US Congress – but has not released further details. Less than a day before she joined the Trump loyalist protest, Babbitt, an avowed and public Trump supporter as well as a subscriber to a number of alt-right conspiracy theories, had vowed the insurrectionist movement could never be halted. “Nothing will stop us … they can try and try and try but the storm is here and it is descending upon DC in less than 24 hours … dark to light!” she wrote on Twitter. ***Babbitt, 35, was reportedly shot as she and other rioters tried to break through a barricaded door in the building where Capitol police officers were armed on the other side.*** On video footage circulating on social media, a single gunshot is heard during an attempt to storm the barricaded door. Other footage shows police attempting to perform emergency first aid on a woman lying on the floor bleeding. Babbitt was taken to hospital with a gunshot wound but later pronounced dead. On Twitter, Babbitt described herself as a veteran and a *libertarian.* Her social media account is filled with declarations of support for Trump and condemnation of November’s presidential election, which Trump lost. She also retailed many of the conspiracy theories shared by alt-right groups, including one about a vast network of high-profile and powerful paedophiles. Babbitt regularly retweeted controversial lawyer and conspiracy theorist Lin Wood, a high-profile Trump supporter who has litigated several of the president’s failed lawsuits contesting the election result. https://tinyurl.com/y527xldk She was a *libertarian* and Trump supporter. What a combination. The only thing missing is that "imminent threat to the officer's life". === The guard was hired to protect government property and members of congress. He was issued a firearm to enforce that. No threat to his own life was required to justify deadly force. It's a similar situation to an armed guard anywhere. You better read up on the justified use of force again before you walk out the door with your gun. There are cops going to jail for shooting people trying to protect property. The cops have the same obligation to demonstrate an imminent fear for their life as you do. In fact, in DC, the cops have about the same "stand your ground" protection as we do as civilians in Florida. You don't have to retreat but you can't shoot until you are ready to demonstrate that imminent fear. Civilians there have the obligation of retreat. === Armed guards are not cops. Try to run a checkpoint at a highly secure military facility and see how far you get. Try to assault the president and see how far you get. The woman who was shot was trying to force her way into a facility holding members of congress. No matter what we may think of them, they are entitled to protection also. How many Secret Service shootings have there been since 1950? (the last time I remember the SS shooting anyone). Since that time two president were shot, one was killed, Another was shot at from the crowd and there have been many attempts on their lives. The guy who broke into the White House and was running around was just tackled and arrested. I am having a hard time thinking of anyone being shot at a secure government facility in spite of at least one guy shooting up the CIA and a half dozen other active shooters at military bases. Try again |
The female rioter who was shot...
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The female rioter who was shot...
On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 00:45:06 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote: In article , says... She also was not threatening the officer, she was breaking a window. Can they shoot people who break windows to get into stores? OK by me but I bet you don't agree. In fact one of the BLM thugs shot a retired cop ( David Dorn) trying to protect a store. I don't think they ever caught the shooter. I've seen the videos of this woman - from multiple angles - getting shot. She had climbed into the broken out window of the door - assisted by another rioter - and was entering the building. The shooter was concealed on the left. He popped out and fired. She fell back into the entrance way. The shooter was a cold-hearted SOB. He shot to kill. It was a tragic event. She was loved by and loved her family and friends. Like many here, she was a functioning nut job. All of her goodness and potential died on the altar of Trump. She died for the sad sack of **** known as Donald J. Trump. Chalk it up to Darwin. So then we can shut the **** up about all of the people killed fighting with the police now? |
The female rioter who was shot...
On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 23:27:40 -0500, Wayne B
wrote: On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:58:16 -0500, John wrote: On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:42:21 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:16:01 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 13:22:10 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote: A woman shot and killed by police during the storming of the US Capitol by a pro-Donald Trump mob has been named as a 14-year veteran of the US air force and of four foreign military tours, including to Iraq and Afghanistan. Ashli Babbitt, 35, had travelled to Washington DC from San Diego, her husband told the local news station KUSI, adding that she was a passionate Trump supporter. Three other people died from medical emergencies during Wednesdays siege of the Capitol, according to the Washington DC police chief, Robert Contee. Contee has confirmed to reporters a woman was shot by Capitol police a federal law enforcement agency responsible for protecting the US Congress but has not released further details. Less than a day before she joined the Trump loyalist protest, Babbitt, an avowed and public Trump supporter as well as a subscriber to a number of alt-right conspiracy theories, had vowed the insurrectionist movement could never be halted. Nothing will stop us they can try and try and try but the storm is here and it is descending upon DC in less than 24 hours dark to light! she wrote on Twitter. ***Babbitt, 35, was reportedly shot as she and other rioters tried to break through a barricaded door in the building where Capitol police officers were armed on the other side.*** On video footage circulating on social media, a single gunshot is heard during an attempt to storm the barricaded door. Other footage shows police attempting to perform emergency first aid on a woman lying on the floor bleeding. Babbitt was taken to hospital with a gunshot wound but later pronounced dead. On Twitter, Babbitt described herself as a veteran and a *libertarian.* Her social media account is filled with declarations of support for Trump and condemnation of Novembers presidential election, which Trump lost. She also retailed many of the conspiracy theories shared by alt-right groups, including one about a vast network of high-profile and powerful paedophiles. Babbitt regularly retweeted controversial lawyer and conspiracy theorist Lin Wood, a high-profile Trump supporter who has litigated several of the presidents failed lawsuits contesting the election result. https://tinyurl.com/y527xldk She was a *libertarian* and Trump supporter. What a combination. The only thing missing is that "imminent threat to the officer's life". === The guard was hired to protect government property and members of congress. He was issued a firearm to enforce that. No threat to his own life was required to justify deadly force. It's a similar situation to an armed guard anywhere. So those who attacked the Federal Courthouse in Portland should have been shot? Bull****. === Why do you keep bringing up Portland? Are you making excuses for Trump and his mob of insurrectionists? https://www.wsj.com/articles/bring-the-insurrectionists-to-justice-11610065179 Why shouldn't I bring up Portland or Minneapolis? It shows the 'apples and oranges' way you, Harry, and the media are treating the DC protest compared to how the same crowd treated the 'peaceful protests' this summer. Gosh, I didn't see one business in flame, or any burning cars, or any bricks, rocks, or molotov cocktails thrown at cops. Yet, when those activities occur night after night, it's a 'peaceful protest' because black lives matter. And, the vast majority of the protestors walked off the 'battlefield' with no problems whatsoever. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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