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Alex wrote:
Justan O. wrote:
On 10/19/20 8:27 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
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This is a JTS M12AR 12ga semi-auto shotgun.* It's an AR-15 style
with two 5 round magazines. Nothing fancy but a nice home protection
firearm that might be useful on pigs.

Even deadbeat Harry can probably afford it - they are under $600.00.

What a wonderful firearm to use inside the house for home
protection...heavy, loud, complicated, not so easy to aim properly
indoors. Ayuup.


Aim properly? Just point it and pull the trigger, dumbass.


Exactly.* Shotguns don't require perfect aim and they don't kill people
in the other room with the correct ammo.* It's also easier to use than
my Blasers.


They do require aiming. Depending on the choke, in 12’ you may only have a
12” pattern.

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On 10/20/20 8:30 PM, Bill wrote:
Alex wrote:
Justan O. wrote:
On 10/19/20 8:27 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/19/20 5:57 PM, Alex wrote:
This is a JTS M12AR 12ga semi-auto shotgun.* It's an AR-15 style
with two 5 round magazines. Nothing fancy but a nice home protection
firearm that might be useful on pigs.

Even deadbeat Harry can probably afford it - they are under $600.00.

What a wonderful firearm to use inside the house for home
protection...heavy, loud, complicated, not so easy to aim properly
indoors. Ayuup.


Aim properly? Just point it and pull the trigger, dumbass.


Exactly.* Shotguns don't require perfect aim and they don't kill people
in the other room with the correct ammo.* It's also easier to use than
my Blasers.


They do require aiming. Depending on the choke, in 12’ you may only have a
12” pattern.



Typically, one uses a Mossberg or Remington pump action for home defense
because they are more more reliable, simpler, and easier to handle.

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On 10/20/20 9:00 PM, Keyser Sze wrote:
On 10/20/20 8:30 PM, Bill wrote:
Alex wrote:
Justan O. wrote:
On 10/19/20 8:27 PM, Keyser Sze wrote:
On 10/19/20 5:57 PM, Alex wrote:
This is a JTS M12AR 12ga semi-auto shotgun.* It's an AR-15 style
with two 5 round magazines. Nothing fancy but a nice home protection
firearm that might be useful on pigs.

Even deadbeat Harry can probably afford it - they are under $600.00.

What a wonderful firearm to use inside the house for home
protection...heavy, loud, complicated, not so easy to aim properly
indoors. Ayuup.


Aim properly? Just point it and pull the trigger, dumbass.

Exactly.* Shotguns don't require perfect aim and they don't kill people
in the other room with the correct ammo.* It's also easier to use than
my Blasers.


They do require aiming. Depending on the choke, in 12? you may only have a
12? pattern.



Typically, one uses a Mossberg or Remington pump action for home defense
because they are more more reliable, simpler, and easier to handle.


What do you know about typical? Put 10 shells through a 12 ga pump and
report back howbtour bones liked it. Dumbass.
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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/20/20 8:30 PM, Bill wrote:
Alex wrote:
Justan O. wrote:
On 10/19/20 8:27 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/19/20 5:57 PM, Alex wrote:
This is a JTS M12AR 12ga semi-auto shotgun.* It's an AR-15 style
with two 5 round magazines. Nothing fancy but a nice home protection
firearm that might be useful on pigs.

Even deadbeat Harry can probably afford it - they are under $600.00.

What a wonderful firearm to use inside the house for home
protection...heavy, loud, complicated, not so easy to aim properly
indoors. Ayuup.


Aim properly? Just point it and pull the trigger, dumbass.

Exactly.* Shotguns don't require perfect aim and they don't kill people
in the other room with the correct ammo.* It's also easier to use than
my Blasers.


They do require aiming. Depending on the choke, in 12’ you may only have a
12” pattern.



Typically, one uses a Mossberg or Remington pump action for home defense
because they are more more reliable, simpler, and easier to handle.


Most people would shoot what they got. Mossberg is a cheapest decent
priced one, so very common. Most people think they are going to,clear a
room with a shotgun blast. Too many bad westerns and shootemups. My Rem
1100 full choke at 20 yards has about a 36” pattern. At 10’, about a 6”
pattern. But the fear induced from he bad shootemups applies to bad guys
also. So rack the shotgun and they most likely give up.

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On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 03:18:46 -0000 (UTC), Bill
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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/20/20 8:30 PM, Bill wrote:
Alex wrote:
Justan O. wrote:
On 10/19/20 8:27 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/19/20 5:57 PM, Alex wrote:
This is a JTS M12AR 12ga semi-auto shotgun.* It's an AR-15 style
with two 5 round magazines. Nothing fancy but a nice home protection
firearm that might be useful on pigs.

Even deadbeat Harry can probably afford it - they are under $600.00.

What a wonderful firearm to use inside the house for home
protection...heavy, loud, complicated, not so easy to aim properly
indoors. Ayuup.


Aim properly? Just point it and pull the trigger, dumbass.

Exactly.* Shotguns don't require perfect aim and they don't kill people
in the other room with the correct ammo.* It's also easier to use than
my Blasers.


They do require aiming. Depending on the choke, in 12’ you may only have a
12” pattern.



Typically, one uses a Mossberg or Remington pump action for home defense
because they are more more reliable, simpler, and easier to handle.


Most people would shoot what they got. Mossberg is a cheapest decent
priced one, so very common. Most people think they are going to,clear a
room with a shotgun blast. Too many bad westerns and shootemups. My Rem
1100 full choke at 20 yards has about a 36” pattern. At 10’, about a 6”
pattern. But the fear induced from he bad shootemups applies to bad guys
also. So rack the shotgun and they most likely give up.


Is that a guess? We pattered a lot of skeet guns when I was in that
league and a skeet choke throws a tighter pattern than that.



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On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 03:18:46 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/20/20 8:30 PM, Bill wrote:
Alex wrote:
Justan O. wrote:
On 10/19/20 8:27 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/19/20 5:57 PM, Alex wrote:
This is a JTS M12AR 12ga semi-auto shotgun.* It's an AR-15 style
with two 5 round magazines. Nothing fancy but a nice home protection
firearm that might be useful on pigs.

Even deadbeat Harry can probably afford it - they are under $600.00.

What a wonderful firearm to use inside the house for home
protection...heavy, loud, complicated, not so easy to aim properly
indoors. Ayuup.


Aim properly? Just point it and pull the trigger, dumbass.

Exactly.* Shotguns don't require perfect aim and they don't kill people
in the other room with the correct ammo.* It's also easier to use than
my Blasers.


They do require aiming. Depending on the choke, in 12’ you may only have a
12” pattern.



Typically, one uses a Mossberg or Remington pump action for home defense
because they are more more reliable, simpler, and easier to handle.


Most people would shoot what they got. Mossberg is a cheapest decent
priced one, so very common. Most people think they are going to,clear a
room with a shotgun blast. Too many bad westerns and shootemups. My Rem
1100 full choke at 20 yards has about a 36” pattern. At 10’, about a 6”
pattern. But the fear induced from he bad shootemups applies to bad guys
also. So rack the shotgun and they most likely give up.


Is that a guess? We pattered a lot of skeet guns when I was in that
league and a skeet choke throws a tighter pattern than that.



Mine was a duck gun, and the 10’ range is pretty close to what we saw when
we shot a board at about 10’. Might be 25 yards on the 36” pattern.

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On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 21:00:32 -0400, Keyser Söze
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On 10/20/20 8:30 PM, Bill wrote:
Alex wrote:
Justan O. wrote:
On 10/19/20 8:27 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/19/20 5:57 PM, Alex wrote:
This is a JTS M12AR 12ga semi-auto shotgun.* It's an AR-15 style
with two 5 round magazines. Nothing fancy but a nice home protection
firearm that might be useful on pigs.

Even deadbeat Harry can probably afford it - they are under $600.00.

What a wonderful firearm to use inside the house for home
protection...heavy, loud, complicated, not so easy to aim properly
indoors. Ayuup.


Aim properly? Just point it and pull the trigger, dumbass.

Exactly.* Shotguns don't require perfect aim and they don't kill people
in the other room with the correct ammo.* It's also easier to use than
my Blasers.


They do require aiming. Depending on the choke, in 12’ you may only have a
12” pattern.



Typically, one uses a Mossberg or Remington pump action for home defense
because they are more more reliable, simpler, and easier to handle.


I find it hard to improve on John Browning's design in my 97
Winchester riot gun. That thing will feed soggy paper shells.

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On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 00:30:51 -0000 (UTC), Bill
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Alex wrote:
Justan O. wrote:
On 10/19/20 8:27 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/19/20 5:57 PM, Alex wrote:
This is a JTS M12AR 12ga semi-auto shotgun.* It's an AR-15 style
with two 5 round magazines. Nothing fancy but a nice home protection
firearm that might be useful on pigs.

Even deadbeat Harry can probably afford it - they are under $600.00.

What a wonderful firearm to use inside the house for home
protection...heavy, loud, complicated, not so easy to aim properly
indoors. Ayuup.


Aim properly? Just point it and pull the trigger, dumbass.


Exactly.* Shotguns don't require perfect aim and they don't kill people
in the other room with the correct ammo.* It's also easier to use than
my Blasers.


They do require aiming. Depending on the choke, in 12’ you may only have a
12” pattern.


A skeet gun typically patterns 30" at 21 yards and that is about as
open a choke as you get. It just cuddles the shot a little going out
the barrel but it is basically cylinder bore.
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Bill wrote:
Alex wrote:
Justan O. wrote:
On 10/19/20 8:27 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/19/20 5:57 PM, Alex wrote:
This is a JTS M12AR 12ga semi-auto shotgun.* It's an AR-15 style
with two 5 round magazines. Nothing fancy but a nice home protection
firearm that might be useful on pigs.

Even deadbeat Harry can probably afford it - they are under $600.00.
What a wonderful firearm to use inside the house for home
protection...heavy, loud, complicated, not so easy to aim properly
indoors. Ayuup.

Aim properly? Just point it and pull the trigger, dumbass.

Exactly.* Shotguns don't require perfect aim and they don't kill people
in the other room with the correct ammo.* It's also easier to use than
my Blasers.

They do require aiming. Depending on the choke, in 12’ you may only have a
12” pattern.


That would be a tight choke.
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Alex wrote:
Bill wrote:
Alex wrote:
Justan O. wrote:
On 10/19/20 8:27 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/19/20 5:57 PM, Alex wrote:
This is a JTS M12AR 12ga semi-auto shotgun.* It's an AR-15 style
with two 5 round magazines. Nothing fancy but a nice home protection
firearm that might be useful on pigs.

Even deadbeat Harry can probably afford it - they are under $600.00.
What a wonderful firearm to use inside the house for home
protection...heavy, loud, complicated, not so easy to aim properly
indoors. Ayuup.

Aim properly? Just point it and pull the trigger, dumbass.
Exactly.* Shotguns don't require perfect aim and they don't kill people
in the other room with the correct ammo.* It's also easier to use than
my Blasers.

They do require aiming. Depending on the choke, in 12’ you may only have a
12” pattern.


That would be a tight choke.


They shooting newspaper sheet at 10-12’



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