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Memorial Day thoughts:

One of the moving parts of a military ceremony for a deceased
veteran is the Honor Guard precisely folding the American Flag
13 times and then presenting it to the deceased's next of kin.

Why 13 times?

Many assume it's in honor of the original 13 states, but that's
not the reason. Here's the meaning or tribute of each fold:

1. The first fold of our flag is a symbol of life.

2. The second fold signifies our belief in eternal life.

3. The third fold is made in honor and tribute of the
veteran departing our ranks, and who gave a portion
of his or her life for the defense of our country to
attain peace.

4. The fourth fold exemplifies our weaker nature as
citizens trusting in God; it is to Him we turn for His
divine guidance.

5. The fifth fold is an acknowledgement to our country,
for in the words of Stephen Decatur, “Our country, in
dealing with other countries, may she always be right,
but it is still our country, right or wrong.”

6. The sixth fold is for where our hearts lie. It is with
our heart that we pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America, and to the republic for which
it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty
and justice for all.

7. The seventh fold is a tribute to our armed forces, for it
is through the armed forces that we protect our country and
our flag against all enemies.

8. The eighth fold is a tribute to the one who entered into
the valley of the shadow of death, that we might see the light
of day, and to honor our mother, for whom it flies on
Mother’s Day.

9. The ninth fold is an honor to womanhood, for it has been
through their faith, love, loyalty, and devotion that the
character of men and women who have made this country great
have been molded.

10. The 10th fold is a tribute to father, for he, too, has given
his sons and daughters for the defense of our country since
he or she was first-born.

11. The 11th fold, in the eyes of Hebrew citizens, represents the
lower portion of the seal of King David and King Solomon
and glorifies, in their eyes, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

12. The 12th fold, in the eyes of a Christian citizen, represents
an emblem of eternity and glorifies, in their eyes, God the
Father, the Son, and Holy Ghost.

13. The last fold, when the flag is completely folded, the stars
are uppermost, reminding us of our national motto, “In God
We Trust.”





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On Sun, 24 May 2020 17:47:46 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
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Memorial Day thoughts:

One of the moving parts of a military ceremony for a deceased
veteran is the Honor Guard precisely folding the American Flag
13 times and then presenting it to the deceased's next of kin.

Why 13 times?

Many assume it's in honor of the original 13 states, but that's
not the reason. Here's the meaning or tribute of each fold:

1. The first fold of our flag is a symbol of life.

2. The second fold signifies our belief in eternal life.

3. The third fold is made in honor and tribute of the
veteran departing our ranks, and who gave a portion
of his or her life for the defense of our country to
attain peace.

4. The fourth fold exemplifies our weaker nature as
citizens trusting in God; it is to Him we turn for His
divine guidance.

5. The fifth fold is an acknowledgement to our country,
for in the words of Stephen Decatur, “Our country, in
dealing with other countries, may she always be right,
but it is still our country, right or wrong.”

6. The sixth fold is for where our hearts lie. It is with
our heart that we pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America, and to the republic for which
it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty
and justice for all.

7. The seventh fold is a tribute to our armed forces, for it
is through the armed forces that we protect our country and
our flag against all enemies.

8. The eighth fold is a tribute to the one who entered into
the valley of the shadow of death, that we might see the light
of day, and to honor our mother, for whom it flies on
Mother’s Day.

9. The ninth fold is an honor to womanhood, for it has been
through their faith, love, loyalty, and devotion that the
character of men and women who have made this country great
have been molded.

10. The 10th fold is a tribute to father, for he, too, has given
his sons and daughters for the defense of our country since
he or she was first-born.

11. The 11th fold, in the eyes of Hebrew citizens, represents the
lower portion of the seal of King David and King Solomon
and glorifies, in their eyes, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

12. The 12th fold, in the eyes of a Christian citizen, represents
an emblem of eternity and glorifies, in their eyes, God the
Father, the Son, and Holy Ghost.

13. The last fold, when the flag is completely folded, the stars
are uppermost, reminding us of our national motto, “In God
We Trust.”


See now a math guy like John might also point out that it has to do
with the geometry of the flag

;-)

Yes we learned out how to fold a flag in elementary school, back when
the Lord's Prayer and the Pledge of Allegiance was part of the morning
opening.
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On Sun, 24 May 2020 17:47:46 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Memorial Day thoughts:

One of the moving parts of a military ceremony for a deceased
veteran is the Honor Guard precisely folding the American Flag
13 times and then presenting it to the deceased's next of kin.

Why 13 times?

Many assume it's in honor of the original 13 states, but that's
not the reason. Here's the meaning or tribute of each fold:

1. The first fold of our flag is a symbol of life.

2. The second fold signifies our belief in eternal life.

3. The third fold is made in honor and tribute of the
veteran departing our ranks, and who gave a portion
of his or her life for the defense of our country to
attain peace.

4. The fourth fold exemplifies our weaker nature as
citizens trusting in God; it is to Him we turn for His
divine guidance.

5. The fifth fold is an acknowledgement to our country,
for in the words of Stephen Decatur, “Our country, in
dealing with other countries, may she always be right,
but it is still our country, right or wrong.”

6. The sixth fold is for where our hearts lie. It is with
our heart that we pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America, and to the republic for which
it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty
and justice for all.

7. The seventh fold is a tribute to our armed forces, for it
is through the armed forces that we protect our country and
our flag against all enemies.

8. The eighth fold is a tribute to the one who entered into
the valley of the shadow of death, that we might see the light
of day, and to honor our mother, for whom it flies on
Mother’s Day.

9. The ninth fold is an honor to womanhood, for it has been
through their faith, love, loyalty, and devotion that the
character of men and women who have made this country great
have been molded.

10. The 10th fold is a tribute to father, for he, too, has given
his sons and daughters for the defense of our country since
he or she was first-born.

11. The 11th fold, in the eyes of Hebrew citizens, represents the
lower portion of the seal of King David and King Solomon
and glorifies, in their eyes, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

12. The 12th fold, in the eyes of a Christian citizen, represents
an emblem of eternity and glorifies, in their eyes, God the
Father, the Son, and Holy Ghost.

13. The last fold, when the flag is completely folded, the stars
are uppermost, reminding us of our national motto, “In God
We Trust.”


See now a math guy like John might also point out that it has to do
with the geometry of the flag

;-)

Yes we learned out how to fold a flag in elementary school, back when
the Lord's Prayer and the Pledge of Allegiance was part of the morning
opening.


We stopped the Pledge when they shoved that "under god" b.s. into it. I
wasn't aware the flag folding routine had all that religious nonsense in
it. Apparently whoever wrote it never read or understood the Constitution.

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On 5/24/20 8:44 PM, wrote: On Sun, 24 May 2020 17:47:46 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Memorial Day thoughts: One of the moving parts of a military ceremony for a deceased veteran is the Honor Guard precisely folding the American Flag 13 times and then presenting it to the deceased's next of kin. Why 13 times? Many assume it's in honor of the original 13 states, but that's not the reason. Here's the meaning or tribute of each fold: 1. The first fold of our flag is a symbol of life. 2. The second fold signifies our belief in eternal life. 3. The third fold is made in honor and tribute of the veteran departing our ranks, and who gave a portion of his or her life for the defense of our country to attain peace. 4. The fourth fold exemplifies our weaker nature as citizens trusting in God; it is to Him we turn for His divine guidance. 5. The fifth fold is an acknowledgement to our country, for in the words of Stephen Decatur, ?Our country, in dealing with other countries, may she always be right, but it is still our country, right or wrong.? 6. The sixth fold is for where our hearts lie. It is with our heart that we pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 7. The seventh fold is a tribute to our armed forces, for it is through the armed forces that we protect our country and our flag against all enemies. 8. The eighth fold is a tribute to the one who entered into the valley of the shadow of death, that we might see the light of day, and to honor our mother, for whom it flies on Mother?s Day. 9. The ninth fold is an honor to womanhood, for it has been through their faith, love, loyalty, and devotion that the character of men and women who have made this country great have been molded. 10. The 10th fold is a tribute to father, for he, too, has given his sons and daughters for the defense of our country since he or she was first-born. 11. The 11th fold, in the eyes of Hebrew citizens, represents the lower portion of the seal of King David and King Solomon and glorifies, in their eyes, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. 12. The 12th fold, in the eyes of a Christian citizen, represents an emblem of eternity and glorifies, in their eyes, God the Father, the Son, and Holy Ghost. 13. The last fold, when the flag is completely folded, the stars are uppermost, reminding us of our national motto, ?In God We Trust.? See now a math guy like John might also point out that it has to do with the geometry of the flag ;-) Yes we learned out how to fold a flag in elementary school, back when the Lord's Prayer and the Pledge of Allegiance was part of the morning opening. We stopped the Pledge when they shoved that "under god" b.s. into it. I wasn't aware the flag folding routine had all that religious nonsense in it. Apparently whoever wrote it never read or understood the Constitution.-- MAGA - Manipulating America's Gullible Assholes


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Keyser Soze Wrote in message:

On 5/24/20 8:44 PM, wrote: On Sun, 24 May 2020 17:47:46 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Memorial Day thoughts: One of the moving parts of a military ceremony for a deceased veteran is the Honor Guard precisely folding the American Flag 13 times and then presenting it to the deceased's next of kin. Why 13 times? Many assume it's in honor of the original 13 states, but that's not the reason. Here's the meaning or tribute of each fold: 1. The first fold of our flag is a symbol of life. 2. The second fold signifies our belief in eternal life. 3. The third fold is made in honor and tribute of the veteran departing our ranks, and who gave a portion of his or her life for the defense of our country to attain peace. 4. The fourth fold exemplifies our weaker nature as citizens trusting in God; it is to Him we turn for His divine guidance. 5. The fifth fold is an acknowledgement to our country, for in the words of Stephen Decatur, ?Our country, in dealing with other countries, may she always be right, but it is still our country, right or wrong.? 6. The sixth fold is for where our hearts lie. It is with our heart that we pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 7. The seventh fold is a tribute to our armed forces, for it is through the armed forces that we protect our country and our flag against all enemies. 8. The eighth fold is a tribute to the one who entered into the valley of the shadow of death, that we might see the light of day, and to honor our mother, for whom it flies on Mother?s Day. 9. The ninth fold is an honor to womanhood, for it has been through their faith, love, loyalty, and devotion that the character of men and women who have made this country great have been molded. 10. The 10th fold is a tribute to father, for he, too, has given his sons and daughters for the defense of our country since he or she was first-born. 11. The 11th fold, in the eyes of Hebrew citizens, represents the lower portion of the seal of King David and King Solomon and glorifies, in their eyes, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. 12. The 12th fold, in the eyes of a Christian citizen, represents an emblem of eternity and glorifies, in their eyes, God the Father, the Son, and Holy Ghost. 13. The last fold, when the flag is completely folded, the stars are uppermost, reminding us of our national motto, ?In God We Trust.? See now a math guy like John might also point out that it has to do with the geometry of the flag ;-) Yes we learned out how to fold a flag in elementary school, back when the Lord's Prayer and the Pledge of Allegiance was part of the morning opening. We stopped the Pledge when they shoved that "under god" b.s. into it. I wasn't aware the flag folding routine had all that religious nonsense in it. Apparently whoever wrote it never read or understood the Constitution.-- MAGA - Manipulating America's Gullible Assholes


Like some of us were discussing recently, you Fat Harry Krause are
a real piece of ****.




One of the reasons I posted the thing about the meaning of folding the
flag was inspired by another thread in here with the subject,

"I know this annoys some ...." :-)


Truthfully, I never knew why it was folded exactly 13 times or the
symbolism and meaning of each fold was. I thought it was in
honor of the 13 original states, like many others.

Thought it was interesting and provides a much deeper history of
what the origins of the United States of America stand for.




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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/24/2020 10:52 PM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 5/24/20 8:44 PM, wrote: On Sun, 24 May 2020
17:47:46 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
Memorial Day thoughts: One of the moving parts of a military
ceremony for a deceased veteran is the Honor Guard precisely folding
the American Flag 13 times and then presenting it to the deceased's
next of kin. Why 13 times? Many assume it's in honor of the
original 13 states, but that's not the reason. Here's the meaning or
tribute of each fold: 1. The first fold of our flag is a symbol of
life. 2. The second fold signifies our belief in eternal life.
3. The third fold is made in honor and tribute of the veteran
departing our ranks, and who gave a portion of his or her life
for the defense of our country to attain peace. 4. The
fourth fold exemplifies our weaker nature as citizens trusting
in God; it is to Him we turn for His divine guidance. 5.
The fifth fold is an acknowledgement to our country, for in the
words of Stephen Decatur, ?Our country, in dealing with other
countries, may she always be right, but it is still our country,
right or wrong.? 6. The sixth fold is for where our hearts lie. It
is with our heart that we pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America, and to the republic for which it
stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all. 7. The seventh fold is a tribute to our armed
forces, for it is through the armed forces that we protect our
country and our flag against all enemies. 8. The eighth
fold is a tribute to the one who entered into the valley of the
shadow of death, that we might see the light of day, and to
honor our mother, for whom it flies on Mother?s Day. 9. The
ninth fold is an honor to womanhood, for it has been through
their faith, love, loyalty, and devotion that the character of
men and women who have made this country great have been
molded. 10. The 10th fold is a tribute to father, for he, too, has
given his sons and daughters for the defense of our country
since he or she was first-born. 11. The 11th fold, in the
eyes of Hebrew citizens, represents the lower portion of the
seal of King David and King Solomon and glorifies, in their
eyes, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. 12. The 12th fold, in
the eyes of a Christian citizen, represents an emblem of
eternity and glorifies, in their eyes, God the Father, the Son,
and Holy Ghost. 13. The last fold, when the flag is completely
folded, the stars are uppermost, reminding us of our national
motto, ?In God We Trust.? See now a math guy like John might
also point out that it has to do with the geometry of the flag ;-)
Yes we learned out how to fold a flag in elementary school, back
when the Lord's Prayer and the Pledge of Allegiance was part of the
morning opening. We stopped the Pledge when they shoved that "under
god" b.s. into it. I wasn't aware the flag folding routine had all
that religious nonsense in it. Apparently whoever wrote it never read
or understood the Constitution.-- MAGA - Manipulating America's Gullible Assholes


Like some of us were discussing recently, you Fat Harry Krause are
a real piece of ****.



One of the reasons I posted the thing about the meaning of folding the
flag was inspired by another thread in here with the subject,

"I know this annoys some ...." :-)


Truthfully, I never knew why it was folded exactly 13 times or the
symbolism and meaning of each fold was. I thought it was in
honor of the 13 original states, like many others.

Thought it was interesting and provides a much deeper history of
what the origins of the United States of America stand for.





It is interesting. I doubt the founding fathers would have gone for all the
secular religiousity, though. The story of the folds was written after WW
I.

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On Sun, 24 May 2020 17:47:46 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

Memorial Day thoughts:

One of the moving parts of a military ceremony for a deceased
veteran is the Honor Guard precisely folding the American Flag
13 times and then presenting it to the deceased's next of kin.

Why 13 times?

Many assume it's in honor of the original 13 states, but that's
not the reason. Here's the meaning or tribute of each fold:

1. The first fold of our flag is a symbol of life.

2. The second fold signifies our belief in eternal life.

3. The third fold is made in honor and tribute of the
veteran departing our ranks, and who gave a portion
of his or her life for the defense of our country to
attain peace.

4. The fourth fold exemplifies our weaker nature as
citizens trusting in God; it is to Him we turn for His
divine guidance.

5. The fifth fold is an acknowledgement to our country,
for in the words of Stephen Decatur, Our country, in
dealing with other countries, may she always be right,
but it is still our country, right or wrong.

6. The sixth fold is for where our hearts lie. It is with
our heart that we pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America, and to the republic for which
it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty
and justice for all.

7. The seventh fold is a tribute to our armed forces, for it
is through the armed forces that we protect our country and
our flag against all enemies.

8. The eighth fold is a tribute to the one who entered into
the valley of the shadow of death, that we might see the light
of day, and to honor our mother, for whom it flies on
Mothers Day.

9. The ninth fold is an honor to womanhood, for it has been
through their faith, love, loyalty, and devotion that the
character of men and women who have made this country great
have been molded.

10. The 10th fold is a tribute to father, for he, too, has given
his sons and daughters for the defense of our country since
he or she was first-born.

11. The 11th fold, in the eyes of Hebrew citizens, represents the
lower portion of the seal of King David and King Solomon
and glorifies, in their eyes, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

12. The 12th fold, in the eyes of a Christian citizen, represents
an emblem of eternity and glorifies, in their eyes, God the
Father, the Son, and Holy Ghost.

13. The last fold, when the flag is completely folded, the stars
are uppermost, reminding us of our national motto, In God
We Trust.


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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/24/2020 10:52 PM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 5/24/20 8:44 PM, wrote: On Sun, 24 May 2020
17:47:46 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
Memorial Day thoughts: One of the moving parts of a military
ceremony for a deceased veteran is the Honor Guard precisely folding
the American Flag 13 times and then presenting it to the deceased's
next of kin. Why 13 times? Many assume it's in honor of the
original 13 states, but that's not the reason. Here's the meaning or
tribute of each fold: 1. The first fold of our flag is a symbol of
life. 2. The second fold signifies our belief in eternal life.
3. The third fold is made in honor and tribute of the veteran
departing our ranks, and who gave a portion of his or her life
for the defense of our country to attain peace. 4. The
fourth fold exemplifies our weaker nature as citizens trusting
in God; it is to Him we turn for His divine guidance. 5.
The fifth fold is an acknowledgement to our country, for in the
words of Stephen Decatur, ?Our country, in dealing with other
countries, may she always be right, but it is still our country,
right or wrong.? 6. The sixth fold is for where our hearts lie. It
is with our heart that we pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America, and to the republic for which it
stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all. 7. The seventh fold is a tribute to our armed
forces, for it is through the armed forces that we protect our
country and our flag against all enemies. 8. The eighth
fold is a tribute to the one who entered into the valley of the
shadow of death, that we might see the light of day, and to
honor our mother, for whom it flies on Mother?s Day. 9. The
ninth fold is an honor to womanhood, for it has been through
their faith, love, loyalty, and devotion that the character of
men and women who have made this country great have been
molded. 10. The 10th fold is a tribute to father, for he, too, has
given his sons and daughters for the defense of our country
since he or she was first-born. 11. The 11th fold, in the
eyes of Hebrew citizens, represents the lower portion of the
seal of King David and King Solomon and glorifies, in their
eyes, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. 12. The 12th fold, in
the eyes of a Christian citizen, represents an emblem of
eternity and glorifies, in their eyes, God the Father, the Son,
and Holy Ghost. 13. The last fold, when the flag is completely
folded, the stars are uppermost, reminding us of our national
motto, ?In God We Trust.? See now a math guy like John might
also point out that it has to do with the geometry of the flag ;-)
Yes we learned out how to fold a flag in elementary school, back
when the Lord's Prayer and the Pledge of Allegiance was part of the
morning opening. We stopped the Pledge when they shoved that "under
god" b.s. into it. I wasn't aware the flag folding routine had all
that religious nonsense in it. Apparently whoever wrote it never read
or understood the Constitution.-- MAGA - Manipulating America's Gullible Assholes

Like some of us were discussing recently, you Fat Harry Krause are
a real piece of ****.



One of the reasons I posted the thing about the meaning of folding the
flag was inspired by another thread in here with the subject,

"I know this annoys some ...." :-)


Truthfully, I never knew why it was folded exactly 13 times or the
symbolism and meaning of each fold was. I thought it was in
honor of the 13 original states, like many others.

Thought it was interesting and provides a much deeper history of
what the origins of the United States of America stand for.







It is interesting. I doubt the founding fathers would have gone for all the
secular religiousity, though. The story of the folds was written after WW
I.


That's true. The American Flag has always been ceremoniously folded ...
not because of any founding father's rules or constitutional
requirements ... but out of a desire to make it "special". It's a
custom, nothing more.




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