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On 3/13/20 3:53 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/13/2020 3:39 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/13/20 2:41 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: I think the complaints about the lack of Test Kits in the USA is a lot of noise but may not be as meaningful as it would seem. We are reminded daily that South Korea produced kits and tests 20,000 people *daily*. Yet, South Korea has 7,979 confirmed cases of coronavirus (and still rising) in a population of 51.5 million. The USA with a shortage of kits is only testing 200-300 people a day. Yet, with a population over 6 times that of South Korea, the USA has about 1,600 confirmed cases. How is the availability of test kits helping South Korea? Other factors and initiatives in the USA seem to be more successful. Someone with a science background would know there aren't enough test kits/results in the USA to determine anything yet. But I am sure the Trumpsters appreciate your never-ending asskissing. My question is what do the tests accomplish that following the recommendations of the medical and scientific community doesn't?That is a completely absurd response. Luddite should know better than to talk over your head. -- .. ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/13/2020 4:20 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/13/20 4:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/13/2020 3:57 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/13/20 3:53 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/13/2020 3:39 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/13/20 2:41 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: I think the complaints about the lack of Test Kits in the USA is a lot of noise but may not be as meaningful as it would seem. We are reminded daily that South Korea produced kits and tests 20,000 people *daily*. Yet, South Korea has 7,979 confirmed cases of coronavirus (and still rising) in a population of 51.5 million. The USA with a shortage of kits is only testing 200-300 people a day.* Yet, with a population over 6 times that of South Korea, the USA has about 1,600 confirmed cases. How is the availability of test kits helping South Korea? Other factors and initiatives* in the USA seem to be more successful. Someone with a science background would know there aren't enough test kits/results in the USA to determine anything yet. But I am sure the Trumpsters appreciate your never-ending asskissing. My question is what do the tests accomplish that following the recommendations of the medical and scientific community doesn't? That is a completely absurd response. Why is that? Patient with cough, fever and shortness of breath calls doctor. Doctor says, "you need to self-quarantine" for 14 days.* If it gets worse, call me again." Patient with cough, fever and shortness of breath visits doctor and has a "Test".* Test is positive. Doctor then says, "you need to self-quarantine for 14 days. If it gets worse, call me again." Patient with cough, fever and shortness of breath visits doctor and has a "Test".* Test is negative. Doctor then says, "you don't have the coronavirus now but please follow all the recommendations of the medical/scientific community, limiting your exposure to large crowds.* But, it's still very possible you'll end up becoming infected." What did the test accomplish? Simply: 1. Your "diagnosis" covers more than the corona ailment. Waiting 14 days might hide an illness and result in more serious condition. Seeing the doctor for a test might help determine the ailment.* 2. You cannot keep track of an ailment like corona without accurate statistics. 3. If there is a large outbreak in a particular geo area, you want to send resources there. The test results help determine that. *** Cough, which may produce greenish,****************** yellow or even bloody mucus. *** Fever, sweating and shaking chills. *** Shortness of breath. *** Rapid, shallow breathing. DIAGNOSIS: PNEUMONIA. But stay at home for 14 days... Ok. Got me there. But, my virtual doc also said, "Call me back if it gets worse". I still think the emphasis being placed on the test kit availability is being overblown. If people just followed the recommendations that are being pounded into our heads daily, along with temporarily restricting travel from countries with a major number of cases, eventually the virus will burn itself out because it's ability to transfer to others is minimized. If people choose to ignore the recommendations, it will just continue to spread, test or no test. If you are paying attention to the trend agencies like the CDC and WHO are taking ... personal responsibility is what they are emphasizing more and more. Harry likes the new world. Go to the doctor for every little thing. We seem to have survived in my youth not going to the doctor to be told “yes, you have a cold”. No go to the doctor and get rid of your cold in 7 days by giving it to the 7 people in the doctors waiting room. |
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On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 14:41:00 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: I think the complaints about the lack of Test Kits in the USA is a lot of noise but may not be as meaningful as it would seem. We are reminded daily that South Korea produced kits and tests 20,000 people *daily*. Yet, South Korea has 7,979 confirmed cases of coronavirus (and still rising) in a population of 51.5 million. The USA with a shortage of kits is only testing 200-300 people a day. Yet, with a population over 6 times that of South Korea, the USA has about 1,600 confirmed cases. How is the availability of test kits helping South Korea? It is allowing them to claim a lower death rate as those mildly affected just shake this thing off. I saw a stat today that says it is closer to 81% who have mild to moderate symptoms. As more mildly affected are tested, I expect that will rise farther. Other than just juking the stats, I am not sure what the test does since there is no specific treatment. They just mitigate the symptoms, whether it is garden variety COPD, emphysema or C-19. |
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On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 15:53:29 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 3/13/2020 3:39 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/13/20 2:41 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: I think the complaints about the lack of Test Kits in the USA is a lot of noise but may not be as meaningful as it would seem. We are reminded daily that South Korea produced kits and tests 20,000 people *daily*. Yet, South Korea has 7,979 confirmed cases of coronavirus (and still rising) in a population of 51.5 million. The USA with a shortage of kits is only testing 200-300 people a day.* Yet, with a population over 6 times that of South Korea, the USA has about 1,600 confirmed cases. How is the availability of test kits helping South Korea? Other factors and initiatives* in the USA seem to be more successful. Someone with a science background would know there aren't enough test kits/results in the USA to determine anything yet. But I am sure the Trumpsters appreciate your never-ending asskissing. My question is what do the tests accomplish that following the recommendations of the medical and scientific community doesn't? If you have the symptoms (fever, shortness of breath, cough) assume you have it and self-quarantine. If severe, contact your doctor. If people did as they are being asked to do, limit exposure to large groups along with the actions taken by the federal and local governments, testing everyone really accomplishes nothing. This is a case of many expecting government to solve a problem that people ... if they are willing to sacrifice a bit ... can solve themselves. The problem is going to be those people who are infected for 3 days before the first symptoms arrive or those who have such mild symptoms that they just think they should step away from the bong for a few days. China just locked everyone up, symptoms or not and got results but they have to let them out some day. I just wonder how many bodies are behind those locked doors. I doubt we will ever know the truth tho. I do predict that someone will be coming out with a story that is far different than the official communist party line. |
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On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 16:15:23 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 3/13/2020 3:57 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/13/20 3:53 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/13/2020 3:39 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/13/20 2:41 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: I think the complaints about the lack of Test Kits in the USA is a lot of noise but may not be as meaningful as it would seem. We are reminded daily that South Korea produced kits and tests 20,000 people *daily*. Yet, South Korea has 7,979 confirmed cases of coronavirus (and still rising) in a population of 51.5 million. The USA with a shortage of kits is only testing 200-300 people a day.* Yet, with a population over 6 times that of South Korea, the USA has about 1,600 confirmed cases. How is the availability of test kits helping South Korea? Other factors and initiatives* in the USA seem to be more successful. Someone with a science background would know there aren't enough test kits/results in the USA to determine anything yet. But I am sure the Trumpsters appreciate your never-ending asskissing. My question is what do the tests accomplish that following the recommendations of the medical and scientific community doesn't? That is a completely absurd response. Why is that? Patient with cough, fever and shortness of breath calls doctor. Doctor says, "you need to self-quarantine" for 14 days. If it gets worse, call me again." Patient with cough, fever and shortness of breath visits doctor and has a "Test". Test is positive. Doctor then says, "you need to self-quarantine for 14 days. If it gets worse, call me again." Patient with cough, fever and shortness of breath visits doctor and has a "Test". Test is negative. Doctor then says, "you don't have the coronavirus now but please follow all the recommendations of the medical/scientific community, limiting your exposure to large crowds. But, it's still very possible you'll end up becoming infected." What did the test accomplish? If you are tested positive and survive, it bends the curve and they get better stats. |
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On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 16:20:54 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 3/13/20 4:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/13/2020 3:57 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/13/20 3:53 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/13/2020 3:39 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/13/20 2:41 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: I think the complaints about the lack of Test Kits in the USA is a lot of noise but may not be as meaningful as it would seem. We are reminded daily that South Korea produced kits and tests 20,000 people *daily*. Yet, South Korea has 7,979 confirmed cases of coronavirus (and still rising) in a population of 51.5 million. The USA with a shortage of kits is only testing 200-300 people a day.* Yet, with a population over 6 times that of South Korea, the USA has about 1,600 confirmed cases. How is the availability of test kits helping South Korea? Other factors and initiatives* in the USA seem to be more successful. Someone with a science background would know there aren't enough test kits/results in the USA to determine anything yet. But I am sure the Trumpsters appreciate your never-ending asskissing. My question is what do the tests accomplish that following the recommendations of the medical and scientific community doesn't? That is a completely absurd response. Why is that? Patient with cough, fever and shortness of breath calls doctor. Doctor says, "you need to self-quarantine" for 14 days.* If it gets worse, call me again." Patient with cough, fever and shortness of breath visits doctor and has a "Test".* Test is positive. Doctor then says, "you need to self-quarantine for 14 days. If it gets worse, call me again." Patient with cough, fever and shortness of breath visits doctor and has a "Test".* Test is negative. Doctor then says, "you don't have the coronavirus now but please follow all the recommendations of the medical/scientific community, limiting your exposure to large crowds.* But, it's still very possible you'll end up becoming infected." What did the test accomplish? Simply: 1. Your "diagnosis" covers more than the corona ailment. Waiting 14 days might hide an illness and result in more serious condition. Seeing the doctor for a test might help determine the ailment.* 2. You cannot keep track of an ailment like corona without accurate statistics. 3. If there is a large outbreak in a particular geo area, you want to send resources there. The test results help determine that. * Cough, which may produce greenish, yellow or even bloody mucus. Fever, sweating and shaking chills. Shortness of breath. Rapid, shallow breathing. DIAGNOSIS: PNEUMONIA. But stay at home for 14 days... Most people who are not special like you probably can't get in to see a doctor for 14 days anyway, particularly now. |
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On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 16:39:44 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 3/13/2020 4:20 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/13/20 4:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/13/2020 3:57 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/13/20 3:53 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/13/2020 3:39 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/13/20 2:41 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: I think the complaints about the lack of Test Kits in the USA is a lot of noise but may not be as meaningful as it would seem. We are reminded daily that South Korea produced kits and tests 20,000 people *daily*. Yet, South Korea has 7,979 confirmed cases of coronavirus (and still rising) in a population of 51.5 million. The USA with a shortage of kits is only testing 200-300 people a day.* Yet, with a population over 6 times that of South Korea, the USA has about 1,600 confirmed cases. How is the availability of test kits helping South Korea? Other factors and initiatives* in the USA seem to be more successful. Someone with a science background would know there aren't enough test kits/results in the USA to determine anything yet. But I am sure the Trumpsters appreciate your never-ending asskissing. My question is what do the tests accomplish that following the recommendations of the medical and scientific community doesn't? That is a completely absurd response. Why is that? Patient with cough, fever and shortness of breath calls doctor. Doctor says, "you need to self-quarantine" for 14 days.* If it gets worse, call me again." Patient with cough, fever and shortness of breath visits doctor and has a "Test".* Test is positive. Doctor then says, "you need to self-quarantine for 14 days. If it gets worse, call me again." Patient with cough, fever and shortness of breath visits doctor and has a "Test".* Test is negative. Doctor then says, "you don't have the coronavirus now but please follow all the recommendations of the medical/scientific community, limiting your exposure to large crowds.* But, it's still very possible you'll end up becoming infected." What did the test accomplish? Simply: 1. Your "diagnosis" covers more than the corona ailment. Waiting 14 days might hide an illness and result in more serious condition. Seeing the doctor for a test might help determine the ailment.* 2. You cannot keep track of an ailment like corona without accurate statistics. 3. If there is a large outbreak in a particular geo area, you want to send resources there. The test results help determine that. *** Cough, which may produce greenish,****************** yellow or even bloody mucus. *** Fever, sweating and shaking chills. *** Shortness of breath. *** Rapid, shallow breathing. DIAGNOSIS: PNEUMONIA. But stay at home for 14 days... Ok. Got me there. But, my virtual doc also said, "Call me back if it gets worse". I still think the emphasis being placed on the test kit availability is being overblown. If people just followed the recommendations that are being pounded into our heads daily, along with temporarily restricting travel from countries with a major number of cases, eventually the virus will burn itself out because it's ability to transfer to others is minimized. If people choose to ignore the recommendations, it will just continue to spread, test or no test. If you are paying attention to the trend agencies like the CDC and WHO are taking ... personal responsibility is what they are emphasizing more and more. Lee Health, the dominant conglomerate here, says they have plenty of test kits. They are still discouraging being tested if you don't have some very specific symptoms. I think they are afraid of the "toilet paper" problem among hypochondriacs with all inclusive health insurance plans who would get tested every week if we would let them. |
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On 14 Mar 2020 03:28:19 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote: wrote: On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 16:20:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/13/20 4:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/13/2020 3:57 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/13/20 3:53 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/13/2020 3:39 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/13/20 2:41 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: I think the complaints about the lack of Test Kits in the USA is a lot of noise but may not be as meaningful as it would seem. We are reminded daily that South Korea produced kits and tests 20,000 people *daily*. Yet, South Korea has 7,979 confirmed cases of coronavirus (and still rising) in a population of 51.5 million. The USA with a shortage of kits is only testing 200-300 people a day.* Yet, with a population over 6 times that of South Korea, the USA has about 1,600 confirmed cases. How is the availability of test kits helping South Korea? Other factors and initiatives* in the USA seem to be more successful. Someone with a science background would know there aren't enough test kits/results in the USA to determine anything yet. But I am sure the Trumpsters appreciate your never-ending asskissing. My question is what do the tests accomplish that following the recommendations of the medical and scientific community doesn't? That is a completely absurd response. Why is that? Patient with cough, fever and shortness of breath calls doctor. Doctor says, "you need to self-quarantine" for 14 days.* If it gets worse, call me again." Patient with cough, fever and shortness of breath visits doctor and has a "Test".* Test is positive. Doctor then says, "you need to self-quarantine for 14 days. If it gets worse, call me again." Patient with cough, fever and shortness of breath visits doctor and has a "Test".* Test is negative. Doctor then says, "you don't have the coronavirus now but please follow all the recommendations of the medical/scientific community, limiting your exposure to large crowds.* But, it's still very possible you'll end up becoming infected." What did the test accomplish? Simply: 1. Your "diagnosis" covers more than the corona ailment. Waiting 14 days might hide an illness and result in more serious condition. Seeing the doctor for a test might help determine the ailment.* 2. You cannot keep track of an ailment like corona without accurate statistics. 3. If there is a large outbreak in a particular geo area, you want to send resources there. The test results help determine that. * Cough, which may produce greenish, yellow or even bloody mucus. Fever, sweating and shaking chills. Shortness of breath. Rapid, shallow breathing. DIAGNOSIS: PNEUMONIA. But stay at home for 14 days... Most people who are not special like you probably can't get in to see a doctor for 14 days anyway, particularly now. The practice I visit has three large offices in the area, its own large office building, and a patient can always get a same day appointment. We got a memo about care during TrumpCorona, but I haven’t read it yet. Maybe things are different in Flyover, Florida. Like I said, you are special Special area. Maybe he is one of the few who have insurance that works. |
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On 3/14/20 5:50 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/13/2020 10:47 PM, wrote: On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 15:53:29 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/13/2020 3:39 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/13/20 2:41 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: I think the complaints about the lack of Test Kits in the USA is a lot of noise but may not be as meaningful as it would seem. We are reminded daily that South Korea produced kits and tests 20,000 people *daily*. Yet, South Korea has 7,979 confirmed cases of coronavirus (and still rising) in a population of 51.5 million. The USA with a shortage of kits is only testing 200-300 people a day.* Yet, with a population over 6 times that of South Korea, the USA has about 1,600 confirmed cases. How is the availability of test kits helping South Korea? Other factors and initiatives* in the USA seem to be more successful. Someone with a science background would know there aren't enough test kits/results in the USA to determine anything yet. But I am sure the Trumpsters appreciate your never-ending asskissing. My question is what do the tests accomplish that following the recommendations of the medical and scientific community doesn't? If you have the symptoms (fever, shortness of breath, cough) assume you have it and self-quarantine.* If severe, contact your doctor. If people did as they are being asked to do, limit exposure to large groups along with the actions taken by the federal and local governments, testing everyone really accomplishes nothing. This is a case of many expecting government to solve a problem that people ... if they are willing to sacrifice a bit ... can solve themselves. The problem is going to be those people who are infected for 3 days before the first symptoms arrive or those who have such mild symptoms that they just think they should step away from the bong for a few days. China just locked everyone up, symptoms or not and got results but they have to let them out some day. I just wonder how many bodies are behind those locked doors. I doubt we will ever know the truth tho. I do predict that someone will be coming out with a story that is far different than the official communist party line. If people follow the recommendations and guidelines the CDC is drilling into our heads daily ... regardless of if you have the virus or not ... eventually the virus will burn out. It may sound like draconian measures for some but it's going to require the cooperation of everyone, for the good of everyone to get through this. Testing may give some people peace of mind that they *don't* have it but they are still going to have to semi-isolate themselves and take precautions to prevent getting it. If you've noticed the "talk" in the last couple of days, the emphasis on "testing everyone" is starting to fade.* It's being replaced with more talk of taking a degree of self responsibility, along with the actions of Trump, the Fed and local governments. Good grief, man, you might consider detaching yourself from Trump's ass and leaving that space to Pence. I got a kick yesterday watching Jabba the Trump shaking the hands of all those magnates of industry and retail and giving them the chance to say something unctuous. Have to wonder how many of them had been exposed to the virus and how many of them were additionally exposed at that presentation. You have a chance to see Maher last night on cruise ships? Perfect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV18wx-xGaE |
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