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COVID-19
On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 18:25:03 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 3/2/2020 6:15 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/2/20 5:37 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Been listening to the "experts" discuss the COVID-19 outbreak. Some suggest that as the weather gets warmer and humidity rises, it will die out. The experts claim that the virus can travel further in dry, cold weather which increases the risk of spreading. But I just saw an updated global map and Australia has 33 confirmed cases (about half that of the USA but with a population of only 24.6 million)Â* and New Zealand has one. Australia and New Zealand are in the latter months of their summer. It's hot and humid. The experts claim that the virus can travel further in dry, cold weather which increases the risk of spreading. You sound silly when you channel Trump. This information did not come from Trump. It came from at two different doctors who specialize in virus transmission. What I found interesting was that it's not the heat or humidity that actually affects the virus. It's the more unlikely chance it will spread. Reason is this: If someone infected sneezes or coughs, the droplets will travel further in dry, low humidity conditions. Cold weather (winter) has low humidity conditions. In the summer, with warmer weather the relative humidity rises significantly. The droplets from a sneeze or cough cannot travel as far in the air with higher relative humidity. In other words, the air is denser in higher humidity conditions. Even Trump couldn't dream this one up. They always told us it just because people were cooped up together inside in the winter. I do suspect that in direct sun, viruses don't last as long. U/V and ozone are pretty tough stuff |
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#3
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COVID-19
On 3/2/20 8:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/2/2020 8:02 PM, wrote: On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 18:25:03 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/2/2020 6:15 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/2/20 5:37 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Been listening to the "experts" discuss the COVID-19 outbreak. Some suggest that as the weather gets warmer and humidity rises, it will die out. The experts claim that the virus can travel further in dry, cold weather which increases the risk of spreading. But I just saw an updated global map and Australia has 33 confirmed cases (about half that of the USA but with a population of only 24.6 million)Â* and New Zealand has one. Australia and New Zealand are in the latter months of their summer. It's hot and humid. The experts claim that the virus can travel further in dry, cold weather which increases the risk of spreading. You sound silly when you channel Trump. This information did not come from Trump.Â* It came from at two different doctors who specialize in virus transmission. What I found interesting was that it's not the heat or humidity that actually affects the virus.Â* It's the more unlikely chance it will spread. Reason is this: If someone infected sneezes or coughs, the droplets will travel further in dry, low humidity conditions.Â* Cold weather (winter) has low humidity conditions. In the summer, with warmer weather the relative humidity rises significantly.Â* The droplets from a sneeze or cough cannot travel as far in the air with higher relative humidity. In other words, the air is denser in higher humidity conditions. Even Trump couldn't dream this one up. They always told us it just because people were cooped up together inside in the winter. I do suspect that in direct sun, viruses don't last as long. U/V and ozone are pretty tough stuff Being cooped up certainly aids cross-contamination but I doubt U/V and ozone has much effect on the droplets of a sneeze or cough that travels a short distance from the infected to the one about to be infected. Wife and I have separate flights to meetings coming up soon. I'm hoping both meetings are cancelled. Airports, planes, airport rest rooms...nothing but bad air and germs. |
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#4
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COVID-19
On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 8:27:33 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/20 8:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/2/2020 8:02 PM, wrote: On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 18:25:03 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/2/2020 6:15 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/2/20 5:37 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Been listening to the "experts" discuss the COVID-19 outbreak. Some suggest that as the weather gets warmer and humidity rises, it will die out. The experts claim that the virus can travel further in dry, cold weather which increases the risk of spreading. But I just saw an updated global map and Australia has 33 confirmed cases (about half that of the USA but with a population of only 24.6 million)Â* and New Zealand has one. Australia and New Zealand are in the latter months of their summer. It's hot and humid. The experts claim that the virus can travel further in dry, cold weather which increases the risk of spreading. You sound silly when you channel Trump. This information did not come from Trump.Â* It came from at two different doctors who specialize in virus transmission. What I found interesting was that it's not the heat or humidity that actually affects the virus.Â* It's the more unlikely chance it will spread. Reason is this: If someone infected sneezes or coughs, the droplets will travel further in dry, low humidity conditions.Â* Cold weather (winter) has low humidity conditions. In the summer, with warmer weather the relative humidity rises significantly.Â* The droplets from a sneeze or cough cannot travel as far in the air with higher relative humidity. In other words, the air is denser in higher humidity conditions. Even Trump couldn't dream this one up. They always told us it just because people were cooped up together inside in the winter. I do suspect that in direct sun, viruses don't last as long. U/V and ozone are pretty tough stuff Being cooped up certainly aids cross-contamination but I doubt U/V and ozone has much effect on the droplets of a sneeze or cough that travels a short distance from the infected to the one about to be infected. Wife and I have separate flights to meetings coming up soon. I'm hoping both meetings are cancelled. Airports, planes, airport rest rooms...nothing but bad air and germs. Don't want to fly and don't want to drive... sounds like you'll be staying in the basement for the rest of your time. |
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#5
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COVID-19
On 3/2/2020 8:27 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/20 8:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/2/2020 8:02 PM, wrote: On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 18:25:03 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/2/2020 6:15 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/2/20 5:37 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Been listening to the "experts" discuss the COVID-19 outbreak. Some suggest that as the weather gets warmer and humidity rises, it will die out. The experts claim that the virus can travel further in dry, cold weather which increases the risk of spreading. But I just saw an updated global map and Australia has 33 confirmed cases (about half that of the USA but with a population of only 24.6 million)Â* and New Zealand has one. Australia and New Zealand are in the latter months of their summer. It's hot and humid. The experts claim that the virus can travel further in dry, cold weather which increases the risk of spreading. You sound silly when you channel Trump. This information did not come from Trump.Â* It came from at two different doctors who specialize in virus transmission. What I found interesting was that it's not the heat or humidity that actually affects the virus.Â* It's the more unlikely chance it will spread. Reason is this: If someone infected sneezes or coughs, the droplets will travel further in dry, low humidity conditions.Â* Cold weather (winter) has low humidity conditions. In the summer, with warmer weather the relative humidity rises significantly.Â* The droplets from a sneeze or cough cannot travel as far in the air with higher relative humidity. In other words, the air is denser in higher humidity conditions. Even Trump couldn't dream this one up. They always told us it just because people were cooped up together inside in the winter. I do suspect that in direct sun, viruses don't last as long. U/V and ozone are pretty tough stuff Being cooped up certainly aids cross-contamination but I doubt U/V and ozone has much effect on the droplets of a sneeze or cough that travels a short distance from the infected to the one about to be infected. Wife and I have separate flights to meetings coming up soon. I'm hoping both meetings are cancelled. Airports, planes, airport rest rooms...nothing but bad air and germs. One of the many reasons I dislike commercial flying. Even in the best of circumstances with no diseases in abundance, you are still breathing 50% recycled air and 50% fresh air. T The airlines claim that the HEPA filters used remove all bacteria and viruses but that's simply not true. HEPA filters are typically of 0.3 microns, meaning they capture any airborne particles over 0.3 microns in size. Problem is that a virus particle is only 0.004 to 0.1 microns in size. Bacteria particles are bigger, but some can still get through the filters. They range in size from 0.2 to 10 microns. Funny thing is ... back when you could smoke on an airplane they used 100% *fresh* air in the cabin. Stale air was exhausted and replaced with fresh. No filtering involved. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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#6
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COVID-19
On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 20:22:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 3/2/2020 8:02 PM, wrote: On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 18:25:03 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/2/2020 6:15 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/2/20 5:37 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Been listening to the "experts" discuss the COVID-19 outbreak. Some suggest that as the weather gets warmer and humidity rises, it will die out. The experts claim that the virus can travel further in dry, cold weather which increases the risk of spreading. But I just saw an updated global map and Australia has 33 confirmed cases (about half that of the USA but with a population of only 24.6 million)Â* and New Zealand has one. Australia and New Zealand are in the latter months of their summer. It's hot and humid. The experts claim that the virus can travel further in dry, cold weather which increases the risk of spreading. You sound silly when you channel Trump. This information did not come from Trump. It came from at two different doctors who specialize in virus transmission. What I found interesting was that it's not the heat or humidity that actually affects the virus. It's the more unlikely chance it will spread. Reason is this: If someone infected sneezes or coughs, the droplets will travel further in dry, low humidity conditions. Cold weather (winter) has low humidity conditions. In the summer, with warmer weather the relative humidity rises significantly. The droplets from a sneeze or cough cannot travel as far in the air with higher relative humidity. In other words, the air is denser in higher humidity conditions. Even Trump couldn't dream this one up. They always told us it just because people were cooped up together inside in the winter. I do suspect that in direct sun, viruses don't last as long. U/V and ozone are pretty tough stuff Being cooped up certainly aids cross-contamination but I doubt U/V and ozone has much effect on the droplets of a sneeze or cough that travels a short distance from the infected to the one about to be infected. They don't survive on surfaces as long and that is a significant vector. People touch the infected hand rail or whatever, then they touch their face or eat something without washing their hands. |
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#7
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COVID-19
On 3/2/2020 8:50 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 20:22:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/2/2020 8:02 PM, wrote: On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 18:25:03 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/2/2020 6:15 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/2/20 5:37 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Been listening to the "experts" discuss the COVID-19 outbreak. Some suggest that as the weather gets warmer and humidity rises, it will die out. The experts claim that the virus can travel further in dry, cold weather which increases the risk of spreading. But I just saw an updated global map and Australia has 33 confirmed cases (about half that of the USA but with a population of only 24.6 million)Â* and New Zealand has one. Australia and New Zealand are in the latter months of their summer. It's hot and humid. The experts claim that the virus can travel further in dry, cold weather which increases the risk of spreading. You sound silly when you channel Trump. This information did not come from Trump. It came from at two different doctors who specialize in virus transmission. What I found interesting was that it's not the heat or humidity that actually affects the virus. It's the more unlikely chance it will spread. Reason is this: If someone infected sneezes or coughs, the droplets will travel further in dry, low humidity conditions. Cold weather (winter) has low humidity conditions. In the summer, with warmer weather the relative humidity rises significantly. The droplets from a sneeze or cough cannot travel as far in the air with higher relative humidity. In other words, the air is denser in higher humidity conditions. Even Trump couldn't dream this one up. They always told us it just because people were cooped up together inside in the winter. I do suspect that in direct sun, viruses don't last as long. U/V and ozone are pretty tough stuff Being cooped up certainly aids cross-contamination but I doubt U/V and ozone has much effect on the droplets of a sneeze or cough that travels a short distance from the infected to the one about to be infected. They don't survive on surfaces as long and that is a significant vector. People touch the infected hand rail or whatever, then they touch their face or eat something without washing their hands. True. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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#8
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COVID-19
On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 21:02:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 3/2/2020 8:50 PM, wrote: On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 20:22:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/2/2020 8:02 PM, wrote: On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 18:25:03 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/2/2020 6:15 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/2/20 5:37 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Been listening to the "experts" discuss the COVID-19 outbreak. Some suggest that as the weather gets warmer and humidity rises, it will die out. The experts claim that the virus can travel further in dry, cold weather which increases the risk of spreading. But I just saw an updated global map and Australia has 33 confirmed cases (about half that of the USA but with a population of only 24.6 million)Â* and New Zealand has one. Australia and New Zealand are in the latter months of their summer. It's hot and humid. The experts claim that the virus can travel further in dry, cold weather which increases the risk of spreading. You sound silly when you channel Trump. This information did not come from Trump. It came from at two different doctors who specialize in virus transmission. What I found interesting was that it's not the heat or humidity that actually affects the virus. It's the more unlikely chance it will spread. Reason is this: If someone infected sneezes or coughs, the droplets will travel further in dry, low humidity conditions. Cold weather (winter) has low humidity conditions. In the summer, with warmer weather the relative humidity rises significantly. The droplets from a sneeze or cough cannot travel as far in the air with higher relative humidity. In other words, the air is denser in higher humidity conditions. Even Trump couldn't dream this one up. They always told us it just because people were cooped up together inside in the winter. I do suspect that in direct sun, viruses don't last as long. U/V and ozone are pretty tough stuff Being cooped up certainly aids cross-contamination but I doubt U/V and ozone has much effect on the droplets of a sneeze or cough that travels a short distance from the infected to the one about to be infected. They don't survive on surfaces as long and that is a significant vector. People touch the infected hand rail or whatever, then they touch their face or eat something without washing their hands. True. My first wife was living with doctors every day and we always talked about how you get germs. I was on the road, seeing dozens of customers every day in some places where there were hundreds of people coming and going so if there was a cold going around, I was going to be exposed. I tried to understand the vectors. IBM had a part number for 91% isopropanol and I kept a bottle in my tool bag, long before Purell was a thing. I still got my share of colds but I think I missed some. |
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#9
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#10
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COVID-19
On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 20:22:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 3/2/2020 8:02 PM, wrote: On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 18:25:03 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/2/2020 6:15 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/2/20 5:37 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Been listening to the "experts" discuss the COVID-19 outbreak. Some suggest that as the weather gets warmer and humidity rises, it will die out. The experts claim that the virus can travel further in dry, cold weather which increases the risk of spreading. But I just saw an updated global map and Australia has 33 confirmed cases (about half that of the USA but with a population of only 24.6 million)* and New Zealand has one. Australia and New Zealand are in the latter months of their summer. It's hot and humid. The experts claim that the virus can travel further in dry, cold weather which increases the risk of spreading. You sound silly when you channel Trump. This information did not come from Trump. It came from at two different doctors who specialize in virus transmission. What I found interesting was that it's not the heat or humidity that actually affects the virus. It's the more unlikely chance it will spread. Reason is this: If someone infected sneezes or coughs, the droplets will travel further in dry, low humidity conditions. Cold weather (winter) has low humidity conditions. In the summer, with warmer weather the relative humidity rises significantly. The droplets from a sneeze or cough cannot travel as far in the air with higher relative humidity. In other words, the air is denser in higher humidity conditions. Even Trump couldn't dream this one up. They always told us it just because people were cooped up together inside in the winter. I do suspect that in direct sun, viruses don't last as long. U/V and ozone are pretty tough stuff Being cooped up certainly aids cross-contamination but I doubt U/V and ozone has much effect on the droplets of a sneeze or cough that travels a short distance from the infected to the one about to be infected. === There's another factor in winter: Warm dry air and low humidity cause sinuses and nasal passages to dry out. As a result they become more susceptible to infection. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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