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Tim January 1st 19 10:37 PM

I almost went for a ride today.
 
43f for a high and I was considering breaking out the Guzzi and hitting the road. Plenty of warm cloths, but instead I got a kink in my lower back that kept me at home. Nothing unusual. This happens 4-5 trimester a year. Aleeve and swearing it out for a couple days and it’ll eventually pop back into place.

So much for the new year ride. But they’ll be plenty of time for that later.

Oh well...

Bill[_12_] January 1st 19 11:04 PM

I almost went for a ride today.
 
Tim wrote:
43f for a high and I was considering breaking out the Guzzi and hitting
the road. Plenty of warm cloths, but instead I got a kink in my lower
back that kept me at home. Nothing unusual. This happens 4-5 trimester a
year. Aleeve and swearing it out for a couple days and it’ll eventually
pop back into place.

So much for the new year ride. But they’ll be plenty of time for that later.

Oh well...


Supposed to get to 54 here. I am pruning trees. Lunch now, and the plum
tree is 1/2 done.


Tim January 2nd 19 12:26 AM

I almost went for a ride today.
 

5:04 PMBill
- show quoted text -
Supposed to get to 54 here. I am pruning trees. Lunch now, and the plum
tree is 1/2 done.

.....

Sounds great. I hit some aleeve a couple hrs ago. It’s eorking well.. I just now rolled over and my back made a great “thump!”

Wow, I think I’m a n rhe mend. I’ll find out when I get up here in a moment.

Btw, it’s 38 here now...

Bill[_12_] January 2nd 19 01:45 AM

I almost went for a ride today.
 
Tim wrote:

5:04 PMBill
- show quoted text -
Supposed to get to 54 here. I am pruning trees. Lunch now, and the plum
tree is 1/2 done.

....

Sounds great. I hit some aleeve a couple hrs ago. It’s eorking well. I
just now rolled over and my back made a great “thump!”

Wow, I think I’m a n rhe mend. I’ll find out when I get up here in a moment.

Btw, it’s 38 here now...


Low of 33 last night. Coldest we normally see is maybe 28 in the night
a,couple times a,winter.


[email protected] January 2nd 19 03:24 AM

I almost went for a ride today.
 
On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 21:15:13 -0500 (EST), Justan Ohlphart
wrote:

Bill Wrote in message:
Tim wrote:

5:04 PMBill
- show quoted text -
Supposed to get to 54 here. I am pruning trees. Lunch now, and the plum
tree is 1/2 done.

....

Sounds great. I hit some aleeve a couple hrs ago. Its eorking well. I
just now rolled over and my back made a great thump!

Wow, I think Im a n rhe mend. Ill find out when I get up here in a moment.

Btw, its 38 here now...


Low of 33 last night. Coldest we normally see is maybe 28 in the night
a,couple times a,winter.



Went for a ride yesterday. Wore a light windbreaker but had to
remove it because it got too warm. It feels just like summer at
the moment but things could change.


===

It was in the 80s here in SWFL for the last three days or so. We just
got back from a few days of cruising on the trawler, first time we've
had it out since mid-October.

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Bill[_12_] January 2nd 19 04:03 AM

I almost went for a ride today.
 
wrote:
On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 21:15:13 -0500 (EST), Justan Ohlphart
wrote:

Bill Wrote in message:
Tim wrote:

5:04 PMBill
- show quoted text -
Supposed to get to 54 here. I am pruning trees. Lunch now, and the plum
tree is 1/2 done.

....

Sounds great. I hit some aleeve a couple hrs ago. It’s eorking well. I
just now rolled over and my back made a great “thump!”

Wow, I think I’m a n rhe mend. I’ll find out when I get up here in a moment.

Btw, it’s 38 here now...


Low of 33 last night. Coldest we normally see is maybe 28 in the night
a,couple times a,winter.



Went for a ride yesterday. Wore a light windbreaker but had to
remove it because it got too warm. It feels just like summer at
the moment but things could change.


===

It was in the 80s here in SWFL for the last three days or so. We just
got back from a few days of cruising on the trawler, first time we've
had it out since mid-October.

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Few boating here at the moment. Even the commercial crab boats have been
scarce. Big seas and winds. Blew the cover mostly off the pool and a
plastic chair in to the pool.


[email protected] January 2nd 19 04:33 AM

I almost went for a ride today.
 
On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 16:26:57 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Btw, it’s 38 here now...


You can switch those numbers here more like 83

Tim January 2nd 19 04:46 AM

I almost went for a ride today.
 

On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 16:26:57 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Btw, it’s 38 here now...


You can switch those numbers here more like 83
........


I’d love to but one thing about this time of year up here

No bugs

[email protected] January 2nd 19 05:04 AM

I almost went for a ride today.
 
On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 20:46:13 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 16:26:57 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Btw, its 38 here now...


You can switch those numbers here more like 83
.......


Id love to but one thing about this time of year up here

No bugs


===

Not many here either. This is the time of year where you can visit
the Everglades without being swarmed and carried off.

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True North[_2_] January 2nd 19 12:51 PM

I almost went for a ride today.
 
Minus 12 C this morning. Sidewalks treacherous to walk on. Luckily I have a pair of Icer cleat type sandles that strap onto my boots.

John H.[_5_] January 2nd 19 01:05 PM

I almost went for a ride today.
 
On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 14:37:58 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

43f for a high and I was considering breaking out the Guzzi and hitting the road. Plenty of warm cloths, but instead I got a kink in my lower back that kept me at home. Nothing unusual. This happens 4-5 trimester a year. Aleeve and swearing it out for a couple days and itll eventually pop back into place.

So much for the new year ride. But theyll be plenty of time for that later.

Oh well...


The local Potomac Area Road Riders club used to sponsor a 'Polar Bear Run' every New Year's day. My
daughter wanted to do it again (the last time was when she was about 13), so I called the club to
find out the latest. They stopped it several years ago after being sued by some asshole who'd had an
accident on some ice.

Wonder if it was a Maryland Ducati rider?

John H.[_5_] January 2nd 19 01:08 PM

I almost went for a ride today.
 
On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 16:26:57 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:


5:04 PMBill
- show quoted text -
Supposed to get to 54 here. I am pruning trees. Lunch now, and the plum
tree is 1/2 done.

....

Sounds great. I hit some aleeve a couple hrs ago. Its eorking well. I just now rolled over and my back made a great thump!

Wow, I think Im a n rhe mend. Ill find out when I get up here in a moment.

Btw, its 38 here now...


Temp in the 60's here yesterday, but supposed to be mid-40's today. Good golfing weather. But we'll
be slogging through some wet fairways.

Keyser Soze January 2nd 19 01:42 PM

I almost went for a ride today.
 
On 1/2/19 7:51 AM, True North wrote:
Minus 12 C this morning. Sidewalks treacherous to walk on. Luckily I have a pair of Icer cleat type sandles that strap onto my boots.


We had a nice day yesterday...temps in the high 50's and low 60's. Much
cooler today.

Tim January 2nd 19 02:31 PM

I almost went for a ride today.
 

7:08 AMJohn H
- show quoted text -
Temp in the 60's here yesterday, but supposed to be mid-40's today. Good golfing weather. But we'll
be slogging through some wet fairways.
.........
I’m surprised they let golfers in there in those conditions . Doesn’t that leave hoof prints in the grass?

Keyser Soze January 2nd 19 02:36 PM

I almost went for a ride today.
 
On 1/2/19 9:31 AM, Tim wrote:

7:08 AMJohn H
- show quoted text -
Temp in the 60's here yesterday, but supposed to be mid-40's today. Good golfing weather. But we'll
be slogging through some wet fairways.
........
I’m surprised they let golfers in there in those conditions . Doesn’t that leave hoof prints in the grass?



Herring floats like a butterfly but has no stinger...

Tim January 2nd 19 03:18 PM

I almost went for a ride today.
 

Jan
On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 20:46:13 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 16:26:57 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Btw, it’s 38 here now...


You can switch those numbers here more like 83
.......


I’d love to but one thing about this time of year up here

No bugs


===

Not many here either. This is the time of year where you can visit
the Everglades without being swarmed and carried off.
- show quoted text -
..........

Lol! Tells you what I know. I would have thought differently.

[email protected] January 2nd 19 05:48 PM

I almost went for a ride today.
 
On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 20:46:13 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 16:26:57 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Btw, it’s 38 here now...


You can switch those numbers here more like 83
.......


I’d love to but one thing about this time of year up here

No bugs


Since I cleaned out the jungle behind the house we are pretty bug free
too all year. I am out there at night with Deuce all summer. I spray
Bifen around the house and that keeps the crawly ones out.
You know those roaches the size of your thumb that scare the **** out
of the yankees. As bugs go they really are not bad. Unlike those
northern German and Asian roaches, these guys don't really live in
your house. They come and go. If you spray a perimeter about 10' wide
you never see one.

[email protected] January 2nd 19 05:51 PM

I almost went for a ride today.
 
On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 08:05:45 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 14:37:58 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

43f for a high and I was considering breaking out the Guzzi and hitting the road. Plenty of warm cloths, but instead I got a kink in my lower back that kept me at home. Nothing unusual. This happens 4-5 trimester a year. Aleeve and swearing it out for a couple days and it’ll eventually pop back into place.

So much for the new year ride. But they’ll be plenty of time for that later.

Oh well...


The local Potomac Area Road Riders club used to sponsor a 'Polar Bear Run' every New Year's day. My
daughter wanted to do it again (the last time was when she was about 13), so I called the club to
find out the latest. They stopped it several years ago after being sued by some asshole who'd had an
accident on some ice.

Wonder if it was a Maryland Ducati rider?

My buddy thought he would keep commuting on his motorcycle all
winter. He bought the snow mobile suit and everything. One little
patch of ice and he was back in the car pool.

[email protected] January 2nd 19 07:34 PM

I almost went for a ride today.
 
On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 08:05:45 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 14:37:58 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

43f for a high and I was considering breaking out the Guzzi and hitting the road. Plenty of warm cloths, but instead I got a kink in my lower back that kept me at home. Nothing unusual. This happens 4-5 trimester a year. Aleeve and swearing it out for a couple days and itll eventually pop back into place.

So much for the new year ride. But theyll be plenty of time for that later.

Oh well...


The local Potomac Area Road Riders club used to sponsor a 'Polar Bear Run' every New Year's day. My
daughter wanted to do it again (the last time was when she was about 13), so I called the club to
find out the latest. They stopped it several years ago after being sued by some asshole who'd had an
accident on some ice.

Wonder if it was a Maryland Ducati rider?


===

Which raises the existential question of whether or not you can take a
real fall on an imaginary bike?

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Tim January 2nd 19 08:16 PM

I almost went for a ride today.
 

On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 08:05:45 -0500, John H.
wrote:

- hide quoted text -
On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 14:37:58 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

43f for a high and I was considering breaking out the Guzzi and hitting the road. Plenty of warm cloths, but instead I got a kink in my lower back that kept me at home. Nothing unusual. This happens 4-5 trimester a year. Aleeve and swearing it out for a couple days and it’ll eventually pop back into place.

So much for the new year ride. But they’ll be plenty of time for that later.

Oh well...


The local Potomac Area Road Riders club used to sponsor a 'Polar Bear Run' every New Year's day. My
daughter wanted to do it again (the last time was when she was about 13), so I called the club to
find out the latest. They stopped it several years ago after being sued by some asshole who'd had an
accident on some ice.

Wonder if it was a Maryland Ducati rider?


===

Which raises the existential question of whether or not you can take a
real fall on an imaginary bike?
- show quoted text
.........

Wonders may never cease, Wayne...

John H.[_5_] January 2nd 19 08:57 PM

I almost went for a ride today.
 
On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 06:31:41 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:


7:08 AMJohn H
- show quoted text -
Temp in the 60's here yesterday, but supposed to be mid-40's today. Good golfing weather. But we'll
be slogging through some wet fairways.
........
Im surprised they let golfers in there in those conditions . Doesnt that leave hoof prints in the grass?


Hoof prints would be the least of the course's worries. The continuous rain has wreaked havoc with
the greens and much of the fairways. We were the only group out there today. I saw two singles other
than us. The course is losing money big time.

John H.[_5_] January 2nd 19 08:58 PM

I almost went for a ride today.
 
On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 09:36:23 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/2/19 9:31 AM, Tim wrote:

7:08 AMJohn H
- show quoted text -
Temp in the 60's here yesterday, but supposed to be mid-40's today. Good golfing weather. But we'll
be slogging through some wet fairways.
........
Im surprised they let golfers in there in those conditions . Doesnt that leave hoof prints in the grass?



Herring floats like a butterfly but has no stinger...


He'll walk any course you are willing to try!

John H.[_5_] January 2nd 19 09:00 PM

I almost went for a ride today.
 
On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 12:48:16 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 20:46:13 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 16:26:57 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Btw, its 38 here now...


You can switch those numbers here more like 83
.......


Id love to but one thing about this time of year up here

No bugs


Since I cleaned out the jungle behind the house we are pretty bug free
too all year. I am out there at night with Deuce all summer. I spray
Bifen around the house and that keeps the crawly ones out.
You know those roaches the size of your thumb that scare the **** out
of the yankees. As bugs go they really are not bad. Unlike those
northern German and Asian roaches, these guys don't really live in
your house. They come and go. If you spray a perimeter about 10' wide
you never see one.


The locals called 'em 'palmetto bugs' when I lived down there. I suppose they thought that sounded
better than 'giant roaches', which is what they are!

John H.[_5_] January 2nd 19 09:03 PM

I almost went for a ride today.
 
On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 12:51:12 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 08:05:45 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 14:37:58 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

43f for a high and I was considering breaking out the Guzzi and hitting the road. Plenty of warm cloths, but instead I got a kink in my lower back that kept me at home. Nothing unusual. This happens 4-5 trimester a year. Aleeve and swearing it out for a couple days and itll eventually pop back into place.

So much for the new year ride. But theyll be plenty of time for that later.

Oh well...


The local Potomac Area Road Riders club used to sponsor a 'Polar Bear Run' every New Year's day. My
daughter wanted to do it again (the last time was when she was about 13), so I called the club to
find out the latest. They stopped it several years ago after being sued by some asshole who'd had an
accident on some ice.

Wonder if it was a Maryland Ducati rider?

My buddy thought he would keep commuting on his motorcycle all
winter. He bought the snow mobile suit and everything. One little
patch of ice and he was back in the car pool.


I went down on some black ice that was in my parking spot at Ft. Belvoir. Luckily I was in fatigues
and riding only a little Honda CB125, so neither of us got badly hurt.

John H.[_5_] January 2nd 19 09:04 PM

I almost went for a ride today.
 
On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 14:34:36 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 08:05:45 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 14:37:58 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

43f for a high and I was considering breaking out the Guzzi and hitting the road. Plenty of warm cloths, but instead I got a kink in my lower back that kept me at home. Nothing unusual. This happens 4-5 trimester a year. Aleeve and swearing it out for a couple days and itll eventually pop back into place.

So much for the new year ride. But theyll be plenty of time for that later.

Oh well...


The local Potomac Area Road Riders club used to sponsor a 'Polar Bear Run' every New Year's day. My
daughter wanted to do it again (the last time was when she was about 13), so I called the club to
find out the latest. They stopped it several years ago after being sued by some asshole who'd had an
accident on some ice.

Wonder if it was a Maryland Ducati rider?


===

Which raises the existential question of whether or not you can take a
real fall on an imaginary bike?

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Let's ask Harry!

[email protected] January 3rd 19 03:46 AM

I almost went for a ride today.
 
On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 16:00:26 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 12:48:16 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 20:46:13 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 16:26:57 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Btw, it’s 38 here now...

You can switch those numbers here more like 83
.......


I’d love to but one thing about this time of year up here

No bugs


Since I cleaned out the jungle behind the house we are pretty bug free
too all year. I am out there at night with Deuce all summer. I spray
Bifen around the house and that keeps the crawly ones out.
You know those roaches the size of your thumb that scare the **** out
of the yankees. As bugs go they really are not bad. Unlike those
northern German and Asian roaches, these guys don't really live in
your house. They come and go. If you spray a perimeter about 10' wide
you never see one.


The locals called 'em 'palmetto bugs' when I lived down there. I suppose they thought that sounded
better than 'giant roaches', which is what they are!



The big difference is they are natives and not the nasty imports that
get in your food, live in your furniture and eat the bindings out of
your books. I lived with "apartment house" roaches for a good part of
my early life in DC and these are nothing like them.

BTW "palmetto bug" is just something we say so as not to scare off the
tourists.
This is a "Palmetto Squirrel"
http://gfretwell.com/wildlife/rattus%20rattus.jpg

John H.[_5_] January 3rd 19 12:34 PM

I almost went for a ride today.
 
On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 22:46:56 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 16:00:26 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 12:48:16 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 20:46:13 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 16:26:57 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Btw, its 38 here now...

You can switch those numbers here more like 83
.......


Id love to but one thing about this time of year up here

No bugs

Since I cleaned out the jungle behind the house we are pretty bug free
too all year. I am out there at night with Deuce all summer. I spray
Bifen around the house and that keeps the crawly ones out.
You know those roaches the size of your thumb that scare the **** out
of the yankees. As bugs go they really are not bad. Unlike those
northern German and Asian roaches, these guys don't really live in
your house. They come and go. If you spray a perimeter about 10' wide
you never see one.


The locals called 'em 'palmetto bugs' when I lived down there. I suppose they thought that sounded
better than 'giant roaches', which is what they are!



The big difference is they are natives and not the nasty imports that
get in your food, live in your furniture and eat the bindings out of
your books. I lived with "apartment house" roaches for a good part of
my early life in DC and these are nothing like them.

BTW "palmetto bug" is just something we say so as not to scare off the
tourists.
This is a "Palmetto Squirrel"
http://gfretwell.com/wildlife/rattus%20rattus.jpg


My daughter discovered those things when she moved to Savannah, GA.

[email protected] January 3rd 19 04:23 PM

I almost went for a ride today.
 
On Thu, 03 Jan 2019 07:34:07 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 22:46:56 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 16:00:26 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 12:48:16 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 20:46:13 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 16:26:57 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Btw, it’s 38 here now...

You can switch those numbers here more like 83
.......


I’d love to but one thing about this time of year up here

No bugs

Since I cleaned out the jungle behind the house we are pretty bug free
too all year. I am out there at night with Deuce all summer. I spray
Bifen around the house and that keeps the crawly ones out.
You know those roaches the size of your thumb that scare the **** out
of the yankees. As bugs go they really are not bad. Unlike those
northern German and Asian roaches, these guys don't really live in
your house. They come and go. If you spray a perimeter about 10' wide
you never see one.

The locals called 'em 'palmetto bugs' when I lived down there. I suppose they thought that sounded
better than 'giant roaches', which is what they are!



The big difference is they are natives and not the nasty imports that
get in your food, live in your furniture and eat the bindings out of
your books. I lived with "apartment house" roaches for a good part of
my early life in DC and these are nothing like them.

BTW "palmetto bug" is just something we say so as not to scare off the
tourists.
This is a "Palmetto Squirrel"
http://gfretwell.com/wildlife/rattus%20rattus.jpg


My daughter discovered those things when she moved to Savannah, GA.


You have them in DC. I kicked one at the Giant Food office in
Landover. Surprised the hell out of me.

John H.[_5_] January 3rd 19 04:56 PM

I almost went for a ride today.
 
On Thu, 03 Jan 2019 11:23:21 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 03 Jan 2019 07:34:07 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 22:46:56 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 16:00:26 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 12:48:16 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 20:46:13 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 16:26:57 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Btw, its 38 here now...

You can switch those numbers here more like 83
.......


Id love to but one thing about this time of year up here

No bugs

Since I cleaned out the jungle behind the house we are pretty bug free
too all year. I am out there at night with Deuce all summer. I spray
Bifen around the house and that keeps the crawly ones out.
You know those roaches the size of your thumb that scare the **** out
of the yankees. As bugs go they really are not bad. Unlike those
northern German and Asian roaches, these guys don't really live in
your house. They come and go. If you spray a perimeter about 10' wide
you never see one.

The locals called 'em 'palmetto bugs' when I lived down there. I suppose they thought that sounded
better than 'giant roaches', which is what they are!


The big difference is they are natives and not the nasty imports that
get in your food, live in your furniture and eat the bindings out of
your books. I lived with "apartment house" roaches for a good part of
my early life in DC and these are nothing like them.

BTW "palmetto bug" is just something we say so as not to scare off the
tourists.
This is a "Palmetto Squirrel"
http://gfretwell.com/wildlife/rattus%20rattus.jpg


My daughter discovered those things when she moved to Savannah, GA.


You have them in DC. I kicked one at the Giant Food office in
Landover. Surprised the hell out of me.


Most of what we have here are Norwegian rats. But, they may be the same thing. They don't look any
different than the ones you have in your picture.

[email protected] January 3rd 19 06:09 PM

I almost went for a ride today.
 
On Thu, 03 Jan 2019 11:56:49 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Jan 2019 11:23:21 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 03 Jan 2019 07:34:07 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 22:46:56 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 16:00:26 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 12:48:16 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 20:46:13 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 16:26:57 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Btw, it’s 38 here now...

You can switch those numbers here more like 83
.......


I’d love to but one thing about this time of year up here

No bugs

Since I cleaned out the jungle behind the house we are pretty bug free
too all year. I am out there at night with Deuce all summer. I spray
Bifen around the house and that keeps the crawly ones out.
You know those roaches the size of your thumb that scare the **** out
of the yankees. As bugs go they really are not bad. Unlike those
northern German and Asian roaches, these guys don't really live in
your house. They come and go. If you spray a perimeter about 10' wide
you never see one.

The locals called 'em 'palmetto bugs' when I lived down there. I suppose they thought that sounded
better than 'giant roaches', which is what they are!


The big difference is they are natives and not the nasty imports that
get in your food, live in your furniture and eat the bindings out of
your books. I lived with "apartment house" roaches for a good part of
my early life in DC and these are nothing like them.

BTW "palmetto bug" is just something we say so as not to scare off the
tourists.
This is a "Palmetto Squirrel"
http://gfretwell.com/wildlife/rattus%20rattus.jpg

My daughter discovered those things when she moved to Savannah, GA.


You have them in DC. I kicked one at the Giant Food office in
Landover. Surprised the hell out of me.


Most of what we have here are Norwegian rats. But, they may be the same thing. They don't look any
different than the ones you have in your picture.


I was talking about the roach.

I agree I mostly saw Norwegian rats in DC. They were thick down there
where Harry works. The IBM office was 1801 K and at night the rats
were running around K street eating out of Marion Barry's cardboard
trash cans. They would eat a hole in the bottom and go up in there to
graze. You could kick one of those cans and a half dozen rats would
come running out.
The biggest difference between a roof rat (rattus rattus) and a Norway
(Rattus norvegicus) other than size (roof rats are smaller) is the
length of the tail. A roof rat has a tail longer than the body and
fairly thin. A Norway has a shorter fat tail.
The roof rats around here are country rats and really not much
different than squirrels. I am sure they will be sharing the same
fleas and thus the same diseases. You don't want either of them in
your attic. ;-)

Bill[_12_] January 3rd 19 06:45 PM

I almost went for a ride today.
 
John H. wrote:
On Thu, 03 Jan 2019 11:23:21 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 03 Jan 2019 07:34:07 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 22:46:56 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 16:00:26 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 12:48:16 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 20:46:13 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 16:26:57 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Btw, it’s 38 here now...

You can switch those numbers here more like 83
.......


I’d love to but one thing about this time of year up here

No bugs

Since I cleaned out the jungle behind the house we are pretty bug free
too all year. I am out there at night with Deuce all summer. I spray
Bifen around the house and that keeps the crawly ones out.
You know those roaches the size of your thumb that scare the **** out
of the yankees. As bugs go they really are not bad. Unlike those
northern German and Asian roaches, these guys don't really live in
your house. They come and go. If you spray a perimeter about 10' wide
you never see one.

The locals called 'em 'palmetto bugs' when I lived down there. I
suppose they thought that sounded
better than 'giant roaches', which is what they are!


The big difference is they are natives and not the nasty imports that
get in your food, live in your furniture and eat the bindings out of
your books. I lived with "apartment house" roaches for a good part of
my early life in DC and these are nothing like them.

BTW "palmetto bug" is just something we say so as not to scare off the
tourists.
This is a "Palmetto Squirrel"
http://gfretwell.com/wildlife/rattus%20rattus.jpg

My daughter discovered those things when she moved to Savannah, GA.


You have them in DC. I kicked one at the Giant Food office in
Landover. Surprised the hell out of me.


Most of what we have here are Norwegian rats. But, they may be the same
thing. They don't look any
different than the ones you have in your picture.


The Norwegian is most likely bigger. We have them, but being near a
seaport guaranteed that item. We use to shoot them along the shore in
Berkeley, Albany area when we were young. 20 ga.


John H.[_5_] January 3rd 19 07:11 PM

I almost went for a ride today.
 
On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 18:45:23 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Thu, 03 Jan 2019 11:23:21 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 03 Jan 2019 07:34:07 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 22:46:56 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 16:00:26 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 12:48:16 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 20:46:13 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 16:26:57 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Btw, it?s 38 here now...

You can switch those numbers here more like 83
.......


I?d love to but one thing about this time of year up here

No bugs

Since I cleaned out the jungle behind the house we are pretty bug free
too all year. I am out there at night with Deuce all summer. I spray
Bifen around the house and that keeps the crawly ones out.
You know those roaches the size of your thumb that scare the **** out
of the yankees. As bugs go they really are not bad. Unlike those
northern German and Asian roaches, these guys don't really live in
your house. They come and go. If you spray a perimeter about 10' wide
you never see one.

The locals called 'em 'palmetto bugs' when I lived down there. I
suppose they thought that sounded
better than 'giant roaches', which is what they are!


The big difference is they are natives and not the nasty imports that
get in your food, live in your furniture and eat the bindings out of
your books. I lived with "apartment house" roaches for a good part of
my early life in DC and these are nothing like them.

BTW "palmetto bug" is just something we say so as not to scare off the
tourists.
This is a "Palmetto Squirrel"
http://gfretwell.com/wildlife/rattus%20rattus.jpg

My daughter discovered those things when she moved to Savannah, GA.

You have them in DC. I kicked one at the Giant Food office in
Landover. Surprised the hell out of me.


Most of what we have here are Norwegian rats. But, they may be the same
thing. They don't look any
different than the ones you have in your picture.


The Norwegian is most likely bigger. We have them, but being near a
seaport guaranteed that item. We use to shoot them along the shore in
Berkeley, Albany area when we were young. 20 ga.


I wonder if maybe all the shootings in Chicago are just folks shooting their 9mm's at rats and
missing? Or maybe the rats there just look like humans.

Things to ponder...

Tim January 3rd 19 07:22 PM

I almost went for a ride today.
 
John H
On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 18:45:23 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Thu, 03 Jan 2019 11:23:21 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 03 Jan 2019 07:34:07 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 22:46:56 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 16:00:26 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 12:48:16 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 20:46:13 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 16:26:57 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Btw, it?s 38 here now...

You can switch those numbers here more like 83
.......


I?d love to but one thing about this time of year up here

- show quoted text -
I wonder if maybe all the shootings in Chicago are just folks shooting their 9mm's at rats and
missing? Or maybe the rats there just look like humans.

Things to ponder...

........


Maybe a lot of the rats are shooting back...

John H.[_5_] January 3rd 19 08:38 PM

I almost went for a ride today.
 
On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 11:22:53 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

John H
On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 18:45:23 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Thu, 03 Jan 2019 11:23:21 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 03 Jan 2019 07:34:07 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 22:46:56 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 16:00:26 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 12:48:16 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 20:46:13 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 16:26:57 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Btw, it?s 38 here now...

You can switch those numbers here more like 83
.......


I?d love to but one thing about this time of year up here

- show quoted text -
I wonder if maybe all the shootings in Chicago are just folks shooting their 9mm's at rats and
missing? Or maybe the rats there just look like humans.

Things to ponder...

.......


Maybe a lot of the rats are shooting back...


They probably got their rat guns at a Virginia gun show!

Tim January 3rd 19 09:08 PM

I almost went for a ride today.
 

2:38 PMJohn H
- show quoted text -
They probably got their rat guns at a Virginia gun show!
........

From the trunk dealers?

Bill[_12_] January 3rd 19 11:19 PM

I almost went for a ride today.
 
John H. wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 11:22:53 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

John H
On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 18:45:23 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Thu, 03 Jan 2019 11:23:21 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 03 Jan 2019 07:34:07 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 22:46:56 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 16:00:26 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 12:48:16 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 20:46:13 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 16:26:57 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Btw, it?s 38 here now...

You can switch those numbers here more like 83
.......


I?d love to but one thing about this time of year up here

- show quoted text -
I wonder if maybe all the shootings in Chicago are just folks shooting
their 9mm's at rats and
missing? Or maybe the rats there just look like humans.

Things to ponder...

.......


Maybe a lot of the rats are shooting back...


They probably got their rat guns at a Virginia gun show!


Maryland gun show? Maryland trunks?



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