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John H.[_5_] November 20th 18 03:34 PM

First Guzzi I've seen....
 
.....lately that I'd consider buying. Looks like they may be getting away from the 'cruiser' style
and into a more standard style.

https://www.rideapart.com/articles/2...termot-reveal/

Tim November 20th 18 04:10 PM

First Guzzi I've seen....
 
John H
.....lately that I'd consider buying. Looks like they may be getting away from the 'cruiser' style
and into a more standard style.

https://www.rideapart.com/articles/2...termot-reveal/

...........


Looks like they’re going back to the Tonti-style frame.
And though o have one, I’m not a fan of the “cruiser” but this looks like a trail bike. I’ve noticed that this is a style a lot of builders are going for...

Bill[_12_] November 20th 18 04:22 PM

First Guzzi I've seen....
 
John H. wrote:
....lately that I'd consider buying. Looks like they may be getting away
from the 'cruiser' style
and into a more standard style.

https://www.rideapart.com/articles/2...termot-reveal/


Dump the wire wheels. And be a nice bike.


Tim November 20th 18 04:36 PM

First Guzzi I've seen....
 

10:22 AMBill
- show quoted text -
Dump the wire wheels. And be a nice bike.

......

You’d think spikes would have been well obsolete by the early 70s. I just recently saw an article why spike is still used though. And it wasn’t really a “retro” thing...

Keyser Soze November 20th 18 04:41 PM

First Guzzi I've seen....
 
On 11/20/18 11:10 AM, Tim wrote:
John H
....lately that I'd consider buying. Looks like they may be getting away from the 'cruiser' style
and into a more standard style.

https://www.rideapart.com/articles/2...termot-reveal/

..........


Looks like they’re going back to the Tonti-style frame.
And though o have one, I’m not a fan of the “cruiser” but this looks like a trail bike. I’ve noticed that this is a style a lot of builders are going for...


Norton has re-introduced the Atlas, including a trail model. It weighs
less than 400 pounds and has about 85 hp from 650 cc. How much does that
new MotoGuzzi weigh?

Tim November 20th 18 05:33 PM

First Guzzi I've seen....
 
Keyser Soze
- show quoted text -
Norton has re-introduced the Atlas, including a trail model. It weighs
less than 400 pounds and has about 85 hp from 650 cc. How much does that
new MotoGuzzi weigh?

......
A little more from what I gather. 465 dry and 80hp

Bill[_12_] November 20th 18 05:50 PM

First Guzzi I've seen....
 
Tim wrote:

10:22 AMBill
- show quoted text -
Dump the wire wheels. And be a nice bike.

.....

You’d think spikes would have been well obsolete by the early 70s. I
just recently saw an article why spike is still used though. And it
wasn’t really a “retro” thing...


I had a spoke break and shortly thereafter was a very Squirrelly bike.


John H.[_5_] November 20th 18 06:35 PM

First Guzzi I've seen....
 
On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 08:10:00 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

John H
....lately that I'd consider buying. Looks like they may be getting away from the 'cruiser' style
and into a more standard style.

https://www.rideapart.com/articles/2...termot-reveal/

..........


Looks like theyre going back to the Tonti-style frame.
And though o have one, Im not a fan of the cruiser but this looks like a trail bike. Ive noticed that this is a style a lot of builders are going for...


I'd be happier with a taller windscreen. That one looks much like the one on the Quota. The wind hit
chest-high and went up under my helmet trying to rip it off. I wasn't wearing full face at the time.
Miserable ride.

John H.[_5_] November 20th 18 06:38 PM

First Guzzi I've seen....
 
On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:41:41 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 11/20/18 11:10 AM, Tim wrote:
John H
....lately that I'd consider buying. Looks like they may be getting away from the 'cruiser' style
and into a more standard style.

https://www.rideapart.com/articles/2...termot-reveal/

..........


Looks like theyre going back to the Tonti-style frame.
And though o have one, Im not a fan of the cruiser but this looks like a trail bike. Ive noticed that this is a style a lot of builders are going for...


Norton has re-introduced the Atlas, including a trail model. It weighs
less than 400 pounds and has about 85 hp from 650 cc. How much does that
new MotoGuzzi weigh?


And the Norton may run a whole month without needing some shop time.

John H.[_5_] November 20th 18 06:40 PM

First Guzzi I've seen....
 
On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 17:50:37 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Tim wrote:

10:22 AMBill
- show quoted text -
Dump the wire wheels. And be a nice bike.

.....

Youd think spikes would have been well obsolete by the early 70s. I
just recently saw an article why spike is still used though. And it
wasnt really a retro thing...


I had a spoke break and shortly thereafter was a very Squirrelly bike.


Did you replace the spoke and tune them? Many folks think the spokes will just last indefinitely
without maintenance.

Bill[_12_] November 21st 18 02:52 AM

First Guzzi I've seen....
 
John H. wrote:
On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 17:50:37 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Tim wrote:

10:22 AMBill
- show quoted text -
Dump the wire wheels. And be a nice bike.

.....

You’d think spikes would have been well obsolete by the early 70s. I
just recently saw an article why spike is still used though. And it
wasn’t really a “retro” thing...


I had a spoke break and shortly thereafter was a very Squirrelly bike.


Did you replace the spoke and tune them? Many folks think the spokes will
just last indefinitely
without maintenance.


No, as on way to work and all sudden, felt like wavy road as I road the
Mission Blvd, on to I-80. One broke and shortly after I guess a few others
let go.


John H.[_5_] November 21st 18 07:17 PM

First Guzzi I've seen....
 
On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 02:52:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 17:50:37 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Tim wrote:

10:22 AMBill
- show quoted text -
Dump the wire wheels. And be a nice bike.

.....

You?d think spikes would have been well obsolete by the early 70s. I
just recently saw an article why spike is still used though. And it
wasn?t really a ?retro? thing...


I had a spoke break and shortly thereafter was a very Squirrelly bike.


Did you replace the spoke and tune them? Many folks think the spokes will
just last indefinitely
without maintenance.


No, as on way to work and all sudden, felt like wavy road as I road the
Mission Blvd, on to I-80. One broke and shortly after I guess a few others
let go.


Must have had a bunch out of adjustment. That's what it sounds like anyway.

Tim November 21st 18 07:57 PM

First Guzzi I've seen....
 
John H
On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 02:52:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 17:50:37 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Tim wrote:

10:22 AMBill
- show quoted text -
Dump the wire wheels. And be a nice bike.

.....

You?d think spikes would have been well obsolete by the early 70s. I
just recently saw an article why spike is still used though. And it
wasn?t really a ?retro? thing...


I had a spoke break and shortly thereafter was a very Squirrelly bike.


Did you replace the spoke and tune them? Many folks think the spokes will
just last indefinitely
without maintenance.


No, as on way to work and all sudden, felt like wavy road as I road the
Mission Blvd, on to I-80. One broke and shortly after I guess a few others
let go.


Must have had a bunch out of adjustment. That's what it sounds like anyway.
...........


I think it’s a chain reaction, John. When one goes the load sequence is immediately effected a causes chain reaction breakage.

I had a cb160 Honda that was notorious about popping rear spikes. Dad finally pulled them all and restrung the hub. It held well for a couple more years. I wish I had a tenth of his mechanical talent...

John H.[_5_] November 21st 18 10:13 PM

First Guzzi I've seen....
 
On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 11:57:24 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

John H
On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 02:52:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 17:50:37 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Tim wrote:

10:22 AMBill
- show quoted text -
Dump the wire wheels. And be a nice bike.

.....

You?d think spikes would have been well obsolete by the early 70s. I
just recently saw an article why spike is still used though. And it
wasn?t really a ?retro? thing...


I had a spoke break and shortly thereafter was a very Squirrelly bike.

Did you replace the spoke and tune them? Many folks think the spokes will
just last indefinitely
without maintenance.


No, as on way to work and all sudden, felt like wavy road as I road the
Mission Blvd, on to I-80. One broke and shortly after I guess a few others
let go.


Must have had a bunch out of adjustment. That's what it sounds like anyway.
..........


I think its a chain reaction, John. When one goes the load sequence is immediately effected a causes chain reaction breakage.

I had a cb160 Honda that was notorious about popping rear spikes. Dad finally pulled them all and restrung the hub. It held well for a couple more years. I wish I had a tenth of his mechanical talent...


I agree with the chain reaction approach, but I still think bad adjustment was the initial cause.
And, if one was badly out of tune, others would be also.

[email protected] November 22nd 18 02:48 AM

First Guzzi I've seen....
 
On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 11:57:24 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

John H
On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 02:52:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 17:50:37 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Tim wrote:

10:22 AMBill
- show quoted text -
Dump the wire wheels. And be a nice bike.

.....

You?d think spikes would have been well obsolete by the early 70s. I
just recently saw an article why spike is still used though. And it
wasn?t really a ?retro? thing...


I had a spoke break and shortly thereafter was a very Squirrelly bike.

Did you replace the spoke and tune them? Many folks think the spokes will
just last indefinitely
without maintenance.


No, as on way to work and all sudden, felt like wavy road as I road the
Mission Blvd, on to I-80. One broke and shortly after I guess a few others
let go.


Must have had a bunch out of adjustment. That's what it sounds like anyway.
..........


I think it’s a chain reaction, John. When one goes the load sequence is immediately effected a causes chain reaction breakage.

I had a cb160 Honda that was notorious about popping rear spikes. Dad finally pulled them all and restrung the hub. It held well for a couple more years. I wish I had a tenth of his mechanical talent...


I have seen Harleys with broken spokes. You are on the right track.
That usually means they are not "trued up" so they all are taking a
uniform load. There used to be a guy in Waldorf who was a wizard at
this.

John H.[_5_] November 23rd 18 01:08 PM

First Guzzi I've seen....
 
On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 21:48:40 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 11:57:24 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

John H
On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 02:52:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 17:50:37 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Tim wrote:

10:22 AMBill
- show quoted text -
Dump the wire wheels. And be a nice bike.

.....

You?d think spikes would have been well obsolete by the early 70s. I
just recently saw an article why spike is still used though. And it
wasn?t really a ?retro? thing...


I had a spoke break and shortly thereafter was a very Squirrelly bike.

Did you replace the spoke and tune them? Many folks think the spokes will
just last indefinitely
without maintenance.


No, as on way to work and all sudden, felt like wavy road as I road the
Mission Blvd, on to I-80. One broke and shortly after I guess a few others
let go.


Must have had a bunch out of adjustment. That's what it sounds like anyway.
..........


I think its a chain reaction, John. When one goes the load sequence is immediately effected a causes chain reaction breakage.

I had a cb160 Honda that was notorious about popping rear spikes. Dad finally pulled them all and restrung the hub. It held well for a couple more years. I wish I had a tenth of his mechanical talent...


I have seen Harleys with broken spokes. You are on the right track.
That usually means they are not "trued up" so they all are taking a
uniform load. There used to be a guy in Waldorf who was a wizard at
this.


It's not difficult, just takes time. Here's a good article on the task:

https://bikebrewers.com/true-motorcycle-wheel/

The extra equipment isn't necessary, nor is removing the tire from the bike. Taping paper clips to a
fender works well.


Tim November 23rd 18 01:32 PM

First Guzzi I've seen....
 

7:08 AMJohn H
- show quoted text -
It's not difficult, just takes time. Here's a good article on the task:

https://bikebrewers.com/true-motorcycle-wheel/

The extra equipment isn't necessary, nor is removing the tire from the bike. Taping paper clips to a
fender works well.

...........


My dad built one to work on by Honda. He was an amazing craftsman


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