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John H. wrote:
A friend told me about this stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM Will try it. That looks pretty nice. |
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 13:42:11 -0400, John H.
wrote: A friend told me about this stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM Will try it. I am not sure how that will work out with the water in the hole. It will just float on top where the concrete sinks and displaces the water. It does look like an interesting idea in a dry hole tho. It also gives you an idea of the required compressive strength necessary to hold a pole,. If styrofoam will do it, I can't imagine any concrete mix that wouldn't even if it started with the consistency of tomato soup. I am also not sure why a can of spray foam would not do the same thing. |
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On 10/17/18 1:51 PM, Bill wrote:
John H. wrote: A friend told me about this stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM Will try it. That looks pretty nice. Crikey, a retired Army "engineer" can't figure out how to set a simple mailbox post in the ground...too, too funny. |
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Keyser Soze
- show quoted text - "Crikey, a retired Army "engineer" can't figure out how to set a simple* mailbox post in the ground...too, too funny." The John was complaining there was water in the hole and in the video it says no standing water. What could go wrong? |
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True North wrote:
Keyser Soze - show quoted text - "Crikey, a retired Army "engineer" can't figure out how to set a simple* mailbox post in the ground...too, too funny." The John was complaining there was water in the hole and in the video it says no standing water. What could go wrong? Is herring as dumb as a fence post? -- Posted with my iPhone 8+. |
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On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote:
A friend told me about this stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM Will try it. I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid. Didn't come in a bag though. He had to glass vials with the components in it. He used it to put flotation foam on each end of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft we had in a small lake. Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing water in the hole. I seem to remember you commenting that there was water or the water table was very high or something. |
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On Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 2:07:15 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 13:42:11 -0400, John H. wrote: A friend told me about this stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM Will try it. I am not sure how that will work out with the water in the hole. It will just float on top where the concrete sinks and displaces the water. It does look like an interesting idea in a dry hole tho. It also gives you an idea of the required compressive strength necessary to hold a pole,. If styrofoam will do it, I can't imagine any concrete mix that wouldn't even if it started with the consistency of tomato soup. I am also not sure why a can of spray foam would not do the same thing. I'm not sure John meant he'd try it on his current post, but maybe just that he would try it at some point? |
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 13:25:50 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote:
On Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 2:07:15 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 13:42:11 -0400, John H. wrote: A friend told me about this stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM Will try it. I am not sure how that will work out with the water in the hole. It will just float on top where the concrete sinks and displaces the water. It does look like an interesting idea in a dry hole tho. It also gives you an idea of the required compressive strength necessary to hold a pole,. If styrofoam will do it, I can't imagine any concrete mix that wouldn't even if it started with the consistency of tomato soup. I am also not sure why a can of spray foam would not do the same thing. I'm not sure John meant he'd try it on his current post, but maybe just that he would try it at some point? No, I bought the stuff to try on this post. My friend said he did many of his fence posts with it, and it works great. |
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 12:17:13 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:
Keyser Soze - show quoted text - "Crikey, a retired Army "engineer" can't figure out how to set a simple* mailbox post in the ground...too, too funny." The John was complaining there was water in the hole and in the video it says no standing water. What could go wrong? :) |
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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote: A friend told me about this stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM Will try it. I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid. Didn't come in a bag though. He had to glass vials with the components in it. He used it to put flotation foam on each end of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft we had in a small lake. Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing water in the hole. I seem to remember you commenting that there was water or the water table was very high or something. The foam stuff is handy. About 1967, friend got a contract with the navy to raise a sunken barge at Midway or Wake Island, forget which. He had never used the equipment, but talked to the vendor and got a class. Navy shipped him and equipment island and the dispenser gun worked under water. Filled the barge and refloated it. |
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:19:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote: A friend told me about this stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM Will try it. I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid. Didn't come in a bag though. He had to glass vials with the components in it. He used it to put flotation foam on each end of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft we had in a small lake. Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing water in the hole. I seem to remember you commenting that there was water or the water table was very high or something. Yeah, like I told Greg - I'm going to let things dry up a bit. Project is now postponed until next week. We're going on a camping trip tomorrow. |
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 20:54:21 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote: A friend told me about this stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM Will try it. I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid. Didn't come in a bag though. He had to glass vials with the components in it. He used it to put flotation foam on each end of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft we had in a small lake. Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing water in the hole. I seem to remember you commenting that there was water or the water table was very high or something. The foam stuff is handy. About 1967, friend got a contract with the navy to raise a sunken barge at Midway or Wake Island, forget which. He had never used the equipment, but talked to the vendor and got a class. Navy shipped him and equipment island and the dispenser gun worked under water. Filled the barge and refloated it. Cool. |
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1:39 PMKeyser Soze - show quoted text - Crikey, a retired Army "engineer" can't figure out how to set a simple mailbox post in the ground...too, too funny. ............ Combat engineers don’t plant mailboxes. That’s one of the last things on a sappers mind. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapper |
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True North
Keyser Soze - show quoted text - "Crikey, a retired Army "engineer" can't figure out how to set a simple mailbox post in the ground...too, too funny." The John was complaining there was water in the hole and in the video it says no standing water. What could go wrong? .............. Don, aw cmon man. John’s been nice to you for a couple month I believe. Why carry this on? |
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On 10/17/18 5:18 PM, Tim wrote:
1:39 PMKeyser Soze - show quoted text - Crikey, a retired Army "engineer" can't figure out how to set a simple mailbox post in the ground...too, too funny. ........... Combat engineers don’t plant mailboxes. That’s one of the last things on a sappers mind. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapper Well, the Army got the "sap" part right for Herring. Even a liberal arts grad like me knows how to set a post... |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/17/18 5:18 PM, Tim wrote: 1:39 PMKeyser Soze - show quoted text - Crikey, a retired Army "engineer" can't figure out how to set a simple mailbox post in the ground...too, too funny. ........... Combat engineers don’t plant mailboxes. That’s one of the last things on a sappers mind. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapper Well, the Army got the "sap" part right for Herring. Even a liberal arts grad like me knows how to set a post... Yup, call up a handyman. |
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:54:57 -0400, John H.
wrote: On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:19:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote: A friend told me about this stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM Will try it. I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid. Didn't come in a bag though. He had to glass vials with the components in it. He used it to put flotation foam on each end of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft we had in a small lake. Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing water in the hole. I seem to remember you commenting that there was water or the water table was very high or something. Yeah, like I told Greg - I'm going to let things dry up a bit. Project is now postponed until next week. We're going on a camping trip tomorrow. === John, I believe you're over thinking this thing. I'd do it pretty much the way Greg has suggested: Mix up some concrete the usual way with some sand and gravel; Insert post in ground; Pour concrete around it. The concrete, being heavier than water, will sink to the bottom and push the water up until it overflows. Check post for vertical, open a beer, and come back in a couple of hours. After all it's just a mailbox, not a structural support for a high rise building. :-) |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:54:57 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:19:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote: A friend told me about this stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM Will try it. I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid. Didn't come in a bag though. He had to glass vials with the components in it. He used it to put flotation foam on each end of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft we had in a small lake. Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing water in the hole. I seem to remember you commenting that there was water or the water table was very high or something. Yeah, like I told Greg - I'm going to let things dry up a bit. Project is now postponed until next week. We're going on a camping trip tomorrow. === John, I believe you're over thinking this thing. I'd do it pretty much the way Greg has suggested: Mix up some concrete the usual way with some sand and gravel; Insert post in ground; Pour concrete around it. The concrete, being heavier than water, will sink to the bottom and push the water up until it overflows. Check post for vertical, open a beer, and come back in a couple of hours. After all it's just a mailbox, not a structural support for a high rise building. :-) I would just use gravel. Maybe quarter dust. The small stuff that makes great pathways. A heck of a lot easier to replace the post when a snowplow or idiot driver takes it out. |
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Tim
True North* - hide quoted text - Keyser Soze* - show quoted text -* "Crikey, a retired Army "engineer" can't figure out how to set a simple ** mailbox post in the ground...too, too funny."* The John was complaining there was water in the hole and in the video it says no standing water.* What could go wrong?* ..............* "Don, aw cmon man. John’s been nice to you for a couple month I believe. * Why carry this on?" Huh? I was just stating facts and common sense. John did state that there was water in the hole and the video said there should be no standing water. Others have commented on the same thing. |
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On 10/17/18 6:47 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/17/18 5:18 PM, Tim wrote: 1:39 PMKeyser Soze - show quoted text - Crikey, a retired Army "engineer" can't figure out how to set a simple mailbox post in the ground...too, too funny. ........... Combat engineers don’t plant mailboxes. That’s one of the last things on a sappers mind. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapper Well, the Army got the "sap" part right for Herring. Even a liberal arts grad like me knows how to set a post... Yup, call up a handyman. Naw...I do my own post hole digging. Hell, when you fall off your next roof, I'll even dig a shallow grave for you. :) |
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On 10/17/2018 7:20 PM, Bill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:54:57 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:19:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote: A friend told me about this stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM Will try it. I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid. Didn't come in a bag though. He had to glass vials with the components in it. He used it to put flotation foam on each end of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft we had in a small lake. Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing water in the hole. I seem to remember you commenting that there was water or the water table was very high or something. Yeah, like I told Greg - I'm going to let things dry up a bit. Project is now postponed until next week. We're going on a camping trip tomorrow. === John, I believe you're over thinking this thing. I'd do it pretty much the way Greg has suggested: Mix up some concrete the usual way with some sand and gravel; Insert post in ground; Pour concrete around it. The concrete, being heavier than water, will sink to the bottom and push the water up until it overflows. Check post for vertical, open a beer, and come back in a couple of hours. After all it's just a mailbox, not a structural support for a high rise building. :-) I would just use gravel. Maybe quarter dust. The small stuff that makes great pathways. A heck of a lot easier to replace the post when a snowplow or idiot driver takes it out. We call that "stone dust" around here. You're right. It's available in various colors and looks nice as walkways. |
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Keyser Soze
- show quoted text - Well, the Army got the "sap" part right for Herring. Even a liberal arts grad like me knows how to set a post... ............. But can you disarm a land mine or clear an enemy tunnel? So now you’re making fun of the French “saper “ from where the word came to combat engineers before WW1. “Shovel or “spade” where the word comes from. Bad to scoff at brave men who do some of the most dangerous work in the armed service “ Essayons”. Harry you should try it sometime. ( yes, you can look it up) |
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On 10/17/18 8:56 PM, Tim wrote:
Keyser Soze - show quoted text - Well, the Army got the "sap" part right for Herring. Even a liberal arts grad like me knows how to set a post... ............ But can you disarm a land mine or clear an enemy tunnel? Why would I want to? I don't encounter either in my wanderings in the 50 states or where I go abroad these days. |
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Mr. Luddite
- hide quoted text - On 10/17/2018 7:20 PM, Bill wrote:* Wayne.B wrote:* On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:54:57 -0400, John H. * wrote:* * On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:19:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:* * On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote:* A friend told me about this stuff:* * *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM* * Will try it.* * * * I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid.* Didn't come in a bag though. *He had to glass vials with the* components in it. *He used it to put flotation foam on each end* of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft* we had in a small lake.* * Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing* water in the hole. *I seem to remember you commenting that there was* water or the water table was very high or something.* * * Yeah, like I told Greg - I'm going to let things dry up a bit. Project* is now postponed until next* week. We're going on a camping trip tomorrow.* * ===* * John, I believe you're over thinking this thing. *I'd do it pretty* much the way Greg has suggested: *Mix up some concrete the usual way* with some sand and gravel; Insert post in ground; Pour concrete around* it. *The concrete, being heavier than water, will sink to the bottom* and push the water up until it overflows. *Check post for vertical,* open a beer, and come back in a couple of hours. *After all it's just* a mailbox, not a structural support for a high rise building. *:-)* * * I would just use gravel. *Maybe quarter dust. *The small stuff that makes* great pathways. *A heck of a lot easier to replace the post when a snowplow* or idiot driver takes it out.* * "We call that "stone dust" around here. *You're right. *It's available in* various colors and looks nice as walkways." Same as crusher dust? There's also pea gravel used on walkways. Believe it's a quarter of an inch in diameter. |
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On Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 8:59:42 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/17/18 8:56 PM, Tim wrote: Keyser Soze - show quoted text - Well, the Army got the "sap" part right for Herring. Even a liberal arts grad like me knows how to set a post... ............ But can you disarm a land mine or clear an enemy tunnel? Why would I want to? I don't encounter either in my wanderings in the 50 states or where I go abroad these days. That's because you are a pussy that breaks his wrist falling down the basement stairs. :) |
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On 10/17/2018 9:30 PM, True North wrote:
Mr. Luddite - hide quoted text - On 10/17/2018 7:20 PM, Bill wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:54:57 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:19:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote: A friend told me about this stuff: *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM Will try it. I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid. Didn't come in a bag though. *He had to glass vials with the components in it. *He used it to put flotation foam on each end of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft we had in a small lake. Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing water in the hole. *I seem to remember you commenting that there was water or the water table was very high or something. Yeah, like I told Greg - I'm going to let things dry up a bit. Project is now postponed until next week. We're going on a camping trip tomorrow. === John, I believe you're over thinking this thing. *I'd do it pretty much the way Greg has suggested: *Mix up some concrete the usual way with some sand and gravel; Insert post in ground; Pour concrete around it. *The concrete, being heavier than water, will sink to the bottom and push the water up until it overflows. *Check post for vertical, open a beer, and come back in a couple of hours. *After all it's just a mailbox, not a structural support for a high rise building. *:-) I would just use gravel. *Maybe quarter dust. *The small stuff that makes great pathways. *A heck of a lot easier to replace the post when a snowplow or idiot driver takes it out. "We call that "stone dust" around here. *You're right. *It's available in various colors and looks nice as walkways." Same as crusher dust? There's also pea gravel used on walkways. Believe it's a quarter of an inch in diameter. I never heard of crusher dust but it's probably the same thing as what we call "stone dust". Over time it packs down hard and becomes almost as hard as asphalt. Horses used to walk on it and barely made an imprint of their shoes. |
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:52:22 -0400, John H.
wrote: On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 14:06:56 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 13:42:11 -0400, John H. wrote: A friend told me about this stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM Will try it. I am not sure how that will work out with the water in the hole. It will just float on top where the concrete sinks and displaces the water. It does look like an interesting idea in a dry hole tho. It also gives you an idea of the required compressive strength necessary to hold a pole,. If styrofoam will do it, I can't imagine any concrete mix that wouldn't even if it started with the consistency of tomato soup. I am also not sure why a can of spray foam would not do the same thing. Water has to come out. It's still flowing into the hole at the rate of about a gallon an hour. I'm just going to let it sit for a few days and hope the water table goes down. Hell, we're on a hill! The question would be - how many cans of spray foam? This stuff will more than fill the hole for $9, and I have a few seconds to shift the post if it's not plumb. There is a bunch of foam in a yellow and red can. The blue can stuff is limited "foaming". I bet one can would do it. I still say, just dump the concrete in there, the water will come right out. That pole in the center had 4' of water in it. |
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:54:57 -0400, John H.
wrote: On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:19:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote: A friend told me about this stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM Will try it. I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid. Didn't come in a bag though. He had to glass vials with the components in it. He used it to put flotation foam on each end of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft we had in a small lake. Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing water in the hole. I seem to remember you commenting that there was water or the water table was very high or something. Yeah, like I told Greg - I'm going to let things dry up a bit. Project is now postponed until next week. We're going on a camping trip tomorrow. You can always just tamp gravel down in that hole. If you use irregular crushed stuff and not river rock, Tamp it in is short lifts and wash some sand in there after it is packed, I am not sure how you would get the post out. It certainly isn't going anywhere. |
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 21:50:30 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 10/17/2018 9:30 PM, True North wrote: Mr. Luddite - hide quoted text - On 10/17/2018 7:20 PM, Bill wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:54:57 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:19:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote: A friend told me about this stuff: *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM Will try it. I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid. Didn't come in a bag though. *He had to glass vials with the components in it. *He used it to put flotation foam on each end of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft we had in a small lake. Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing water in the hole. *I seem to remember you commenting that there was water or the water table was very high or something. Yeah, like I told Greg - I'm going to let things dry up a bit. Project is now postponed until next week. We're going on a camping trip tomorrow. === John, I believe you're over thinking this thing. *I'd do it pretty much the way Greg has suggested: *Mix up some concrete the usual way with some sand and gravel; Insert post in ground; Pour concrete around it. *The concrete, being heavier than water, will sink to the bottom and push the water up until it overflows. *Check post for vertical, open a beer, and come back in a couple of hours. *After all it's just a mailbox, not a structural support for a high rise building. *:-) I would just use gravel. *Maybe quarter dust. *The small stuff that makes great pathways. *A heck of a lot easier to replace the post when a snowplow or idiot driver takes it out. "We call that "stone dust" around here. *You're right. *It's available in various colors and looks nice as walkways." Same as crusher dust? There's also pea gravel used on walkways. Believe it's a quarter of an inch in diameter. I never heard of crusher dust but it's probably the same thing as what we call "stone dust". Over time it packs down hard and becomes almost as hard as asphalt. Horses used to walk on it and barely made an imprint of their shoes. Around here the go too rock is 57 stone. That is what they use any time they are not using concrete or asphalt. If they roll it, you end up with a very hard surface. http://www.gravelshop.com/shop-bilde...-485_large.jpg It also does a great job on posts and such if you tamp it in every few inches of lift. You just have to be sure you are keeping the post plumb because you are not moving it later. |
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On Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 7:59:42 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/17/18 8:56 PM, Tim wrote: Keyser Soze - show quoted text - Well, the Army got the "sap" part right for Herring. Even a liberal arts grad like me knows how to set a post... ............ But can you disarm a land mine or clear an enemy tunnel? Why would I want to? I don't encounter either in my wanderings in the 50 states or where I go abroad these days. Well, can you? A simple yes or no will suffice |
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 21:50:30 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2018 9:30 PM, True North wrote: Mr. Luddite - hide quoted text - On 10/17/2018 7:20 PM, Bill wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:54:57 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:19:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote: A friend told me about this stuff: *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM Will try it. I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid. Didn't come in a bag though. *He had to glass vials with the components in it. *He used it to put flotation foam on each end of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft we had in a small lake. Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing water in the hole. *I seem to remember you commenting that there was water or the water table was very high or something. Yeah, like I told Greg - I'm going to let things dry up a bit. Project is now postponed until next week. We're going on a camping trip tomorrow. === John, I believe you're over thinking this thing. *I'd do it pretty much the way Greg has suggested: *Mix up some concrete the usual way with some sand and gravel; Insert post in ground; Pour concrete around it. *The concrete, being heavier than water, will sink to the bottom and push the water up until it overflows. *Check post for vertical, open a beer, and come back in a couple of hours. *After all it's just a mailbox, not a structural support for a high rise building. *:-) I would just use gravel. *Maybe quarter dust. *The small stuff that makes great pathways. *A heck of a lot easier to replace the post when a snowplow or idiot driver takes it out. "We call that "stone dust" around here. *You're right. *It's available in various colors and looks nice as walkways." Same as crusher dust? There's also pea gravel used on walkways. Believe it's a quarter of an inch in diameter. I never heard of crusher dust but it's probably the same thing as what we call "stone dust". Over time it packs down hard and becomes almost as hard as asphalt. Horses used to walk on it and barely made an imprint of their shoes. Around here the go too rock is 57 stone. That is what they use any time they are not using concrete or asphalt. If they roll it, you end up with a very hard surface. http://www.gravelshop.com/shop-bilde...-485_large.jpg It also does a great job on posts and such if you tamp it in every few inches of lift. You just have to be sure you are keeping the post plumb because you are not moving it later. Quarter dust is smaller. Is a mixture, with the largest about a 1/4”. |
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True North wrote:
Mr. Luddite - hide quoted text - On 10/17/2018 7:20 PM, Bill wrote:* Wayne.B wrote:* On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:54:57 -0400, John H. * wrote:* * On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:19:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:* * On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote:* A friend told me about this stuff:* * *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM* * Will try it.* * * * I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid.* Didn't come in a bag though. *He had to glass vials with the* components in it. *He used it to put flotation foam on each end* of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft* we had in a small lake.* * Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing* water in the hole. *I seem to remember you commenting that there was* water or the water table was very high or something.* * * Yeah, like I told Greg - I'm going to let things dry up a bit. Project* is now postponed until next* week. We're going on a camping trip tomorrow.* * ===* * John, I believe you're over thinking this thing. *I'd do it pretty* much the way Greg has suggested: *Mix up some concrete the usual way* with some sand and gravel; Insert post in ground; Pour concrete around* it. *The concrete, being heavier than water, will sink to the bottom* and push the water up until it overflows. *Check post for vertical,* open a beer, and come back in a couple of hours. *After all it's just* a mailbox, not a structural support for a high rise building. *:-)* * * I would just use gravel. *Maybe quarter dust. *The small stuff that makes* great pathways. *A heck of a lot easier to replace the post when a snowplow* or idiot driver takes it out.* * "We call that "stone dust" around here. *You're right. *It's available in* various colors and looks nice as walkways." Same as crusher dust? There's also pea gravel used on walkways. Believe it's a quarter of an inch in diameter. Pea gravel seems to be round stuff. Stone dust / quarter dust is more broken rock. |
New post stuff
On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 03:31:30 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: wrote: On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 21:50:30 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2018 9:30 PM, True North wrote: Mr. Luddite - hide quoted text - On 10/17/2018 7:20 PM, Bill wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:54:57 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:19:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote: A friend told me about this stuff: *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM Will try it. I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid. Didn't come in a bag though. *He had to glass vials with the components in it. *He used it to put flotation foam on each end of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft we had in a small lake. Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing water in the hole. *I seem to remember you commenting that there was water or the water table was very high or something. Yeah, like I told Greg - I'm going to let things dry up a bit. Project is now postponed until next week. We're going on a camping trip tomorrow. === John, I believe you're over thinking this thing. *I'd do it pretty much the way Greg has suggested: *Mix up some concrete the usual way with some sand and gravel; Insert post in ground; Pour concrete around it. *The concrete, being heavier than water, will sink to the bottom and push the water up until it overflows. *Check post for vertical, open a beer, and come back in a couple of hours. *After all it's just a mailbox, not a structural support for a high rise building. *:-) I would just use gravel. *Maybe quarter dust. *The small stuff that makes great pathways. *A heck of a lot easier to replace the post when a snowplow or idiot driver takes it out. "We call that "stone dust" around here. *You're right. *It's available in various colors and looks nice as walkways." Same as crusher dust? There's also pea gravel used on walkways. Believe it's a quarter of an inch in diameter. I never heard of crusher dust but it's probably the same thing as what we call "stone dust". Over time it packs down hard and becomes almost as hard as asphalt. Horses used to walk on it and barely made an imprint of their shoes. Around here the go too rock is 57 stone. That is what they use any time they are not using concrete or asphalt. If they roll it, you end up with a very hard surface. http://www.gravelshop.com/shop-bilde...-485_large.jpg It also does a great job on posts and such if you tamp it in every few inches of lift. You just have to be sure you are keeping the post plumb because you are not moving it later. Quarter dust is smaller. Is a mixture, with the largest about a 1/4”. We call that 89 stone. http://www.gravelshop.com/shop-bilde...-322_large.jpg We use it around the flower beds |
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 22:47:31 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/17/18 5:18 PM, Tim wrote: 1:39 PMKeyser Soze - show quoted text - Crikey, a retired Army "engineer" can't figure out how to set a simple mailbox post in the ground...too, too funny. ........... Combat engineers dont plant mailboxes. Thats one of the last things on a sappers mind. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapper Well, the Army got the "sap" part right for Herring. Even a liberal arts grad like me knows how to set a post... Yup, call up a handyman. I think Harry has probably never set a post, especially in a hole filling with a couple gallons of water in a couple hours. You're right, he'd most likely call a handyman. |
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 18:57:49 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:54:57 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:19:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote: A friend told me about this stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM Will try it. I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid. Didn't come in a bag though. He had to glass vials with the components in it. He used it to put flotation foam on each end of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft we had in a small lake. Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing water in the hole. I seem to remember you commenting that there was water or the water table was very high or something. Yeah, like I told Greg - I'm going to let things dry up a bit. Project is now postponed until next week. We're going on a camping trip tomorrow. === John, I believe you're over thinking this thing. I'd do it pretty much the way Greg has suggested: Mix up some concrete the usual way with some sand and gravel; Insert post in ground; Pour concrete around it. The concrete, being heavier than water, will sink to the bottom and push the water up until it overflows. Check post for vertical, open a beer, and come back in a couple of hours. After all it's just a mailbox, not a structural support for a high rise building. :-) Could be. I'll decide when we get back from the camping trip. |
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 23:20:17 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:54:57 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:19:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote: A friend told me about this stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM Will try it. I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid. Didn't come in a bag though. He had to glass vials with the components in it. He used it to put flotation foam on each end of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft we had in a small lake. Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing water in the hole. I seem to remember you commenting that there was water or the water table was very high or something. Yeah, like I told Greg - I'm going to let things dry up a bit. Project is now postponed until next week. We're going on a camping trip tomorrow. === John, I believe you're over thinking this thing. I'd do it pretty much the way Greg has suggested: Mix up some concrete the usual way with some sand and gravel; Insert post in ground; Pour concrete around it. The concrete, being heavier than water, will sink to the bottom and push the water up until it overflows. Check post for vertical, open a beer, and come back in a couple of hours. After all it's just a mailbox, not a structural support for a high rise building. :-) I would just use gravel. Maybe quarter dust. The small stuff that makes great pathways. A heck of a lot easier to replace the post when a snowplow or idiot driver takes it out. We've got six-inch curbs, so no fear of it being snow-plowed. But the mailbox is heavy. That's why I want to be sure of the support. It's made from high-density polyethylene (HDPE), better known as 'poly-lumber'. Pretty heavy stuff when compared to a tin or plastic mailbox. https://www.dutchcrafters.com/Amish-...ailbox/p/54986 Beautiful work on this thing. |
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 21:50:30 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 10/17/2018 9:30 PM, True North wrote: Mr. Luddite - hide quoted text - On 10/17/2018 7:20 PM, Bill wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:54:57 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:19:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote: A friend told me about this stuff: *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM Will try it. I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid. Didn't come in a bag though. *He had to glass vials with the components in it. *He used it to put flotation foam on each end of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft we had in a small lake. Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing water in the hole. *I seem to remember you commenting that there was water or the water table was very high or something. Yeah, like I told Greg - I'm going to let things dry up a bit. Project is now postponed until next week. We're going on a camping trip tomorrow. === John, I believe you're over thinking this thing. *I'd do it pretty much the way Greg has suggested: *Mix up some concrete the usual way with some sand and gravel; Insert post in ground; Pour concrete around it. *The concrete, being heavier than water, will sink to the bottom and push the water up until it overflows. *Check post for vertical, open a beer, and come back in a couple of hours. *After all it's just a mailbox, not a structural support for a high rise building. *:-) I would just use gravel. *Maybe quarter dust. *The small stuff that makes great pathways. *A heck of a lot easier to replace the post when a snowplow or idiot driver takes it out. "We call that "stone dust" around here. *You're right. *It's available in various colors and looks nice as walkways." Same as crusher dust? There's also pea gravel used on walkways. Believe it's a quarter of an inch in diameter. I never heard of crusher dust but it's probably the same thing as what we call "stone dust". Over time it packs down hard and becomes almost as hard as asphalt. Horses used to walk on it and barely made an imprint of their shoes. Here it's sold as decomposed granite. Often used as an underlayer for brick patios or walkways. |
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On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 03:31:30 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:
True North wrote: Mr. Luddite - hide quoted text - On 10/17/2018 7:20 PM, Bill wrote:* Wayne.B wrote:* On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:54:57 -0400, John H. * wrote:* * On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:19:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:* * On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote:* A friend told me about this stuff:* * *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM* * Will try it.* * * * I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid.* Didn't come in a bag though. *He had to glass vials with the* components in it. *He used it to put flotation foam on each end* of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft* we had in a small lake.* * Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing* water in the hole. *I seem to remember you commenting that there was* water or the water table was very high or something.* * * Yeah, like I told Greg - I'm going to let things dry up a bit. Project* is now postponed until next* week. We're going on a camping trip tomorrow.* * ===* * John, I believe you're over thinking this thing. *I'd do it pretty* much the way Greg has suggested: *Mix up some concrete the usual way* with some sand and gravel; Insert post in ground; Pour concrete around* it. *The concrete, being heavier than water, will sink to the bottom* and push the water up until it overflows. *Check post for vertical,* open a beer, and come back in a couple of hours. *After all it's just* a mailbox, not a structural support for a high rise building. *:-)* * * I would just use gravel. *Maybe quarter dust. *The small stuff that makes* great pathways. *A heck of a lot easier to replace the post when a snowplow* or idiot driver takes it out.* * "We call that "stone dust" around here. *You're right. *It's available in* various colors and looks nice as walkways." Same as crusher dust? There's also pea gravel used on walkways. Believe it's a quarter of an inch in diameter. Pea gravel seems to be round stuff. Stone dust / quarter dust is more broken rock. Yup. |
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