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....being slammed by a result of global warming, a concept denied by the
ignorant, intellectually lazy, coal baron wannabe in the White House. |
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Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
...being slammed by a result of global warming, a concept denied by the ignorant, intellectually lazy, coal baron wannabe in the White House. Why are you so up tight, Fat Harry? -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 9:37:35 AM UTC-4, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message: ...being slammed by a result of global warming, a concept denied by the ignorant, intellectually lazy, coal baron wannabe in the White House. Why are you so up tight, Fat Harry? Heh. "1909: 1909 was a very active year. Out of 12 tropical cyclones, four were hurricanes. On July 20th, a hurricane passed directly over Velasco, TX. There, the calm center lasted 45 minutes, and was followed by devastating winds on the other side which destroyed one-half of the town. In August, a very violent hurricane raked Haiti, caused high winds and rains in Cuba, and entered the Yucatan Channel on August 25. As the storm approached the Mexican coast it caused gales and tremendous seas along the Texas coast. It went to Northeastern Mexico causing an enormous loss of life and property. Unofficial estimates placed the Mexican death toll at 1,500 as a result of floods and mud slides. On September 20, 1909, another intense hurricane crossed the middle Gulf Coast passing about 50 miles west of New Orleans, LA. at 8 p..m. A wide portion of the Louisiana coast was inundated. About 350 lives were lost in Louisiana and Mississippi. It was the same intensity as "the Galveston Hurricane" of 1900 (931) millibars (mb)). [A millibar is a unit of atmospheric pressure equal to .0295 inches of mercury.]" Damn. Global Warming (Climate Change?) happened as far back as 1909. Who'da thunk? |
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On 10/10/18 9:37 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message: ...being slammed by a result of global warming, a concept denied by the ignorant, intellectually lazy, coal baron wannabe in the White House. Why are you so up tight, Fat Harry? I have grandkids. I'd like them to have a decent world in which to live. Obviously, you don't give a **** about the sort of world we're leaving to your non-existent next generation. |
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Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 10/10/18 9:37 AM, justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: ...being slammed by a result of global warming, a concept denied by the ignorant, intellectually lazy, coal baron wannabe in the White House. Why are you so up tight, Fat Harry? I have grandkids. I'd like them to have a decent world in which to live. Obviously, you don't give a **** about the sort of world we're leaving to your non-existent next generation. Pay your taxes and encourage other deadbeats to do so. That should help ensure a decent life for your grandkids. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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Its Me Wrote in message:
On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 9:37:35 AM UTC-4, justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: ...being slammed by a result of global warming, a concept denied by the ignorant, intellectually lazy, coal baron wannabe in the White House. Why are you so up tight, Fat Harry? Heh. "1909: 1909 was a very active year. Out of 12 tropical cyclones, four were hurricanes. On July 20th, a hurricane passed directly over Velasco, TX. There, the calm center lasted 45 minutes, and was followed by devastating winds on the other side which destroyed one-half of the town. In August, a very violent hurricane raked Haiti, caused high winds and rains in Cuba, and entered the Yucatan Channel on August 25. As the storm approached the Mexican coast it caused gales and tremendous seas along the Texas coast. It went to Northeastern Mexico causing an enormous loss of life and property. Unofficial estimates placed the Mexican death toll at 1,500 as a result of floods and mud slides. On September 20, 1909, another intense hurricane crossed the middle Gulf Coast passing about 50 miles west of New Orleans, LA. at 8 p.m. A wide portion of the Louisiana coast was inundated. About 350 lives were lost in Louisiana and Mississippi. It was the same intensity as "the Galveston Hurricane" of 1900 (931) millibars (mb)). [A millibar is a unit of atmospheric pressure equal to .0295 inches of mercury.]" Damn. Global Warming (Climate Change?) happened as far back as 1909. Who'da thunk? Wait a minute. How do we blame that on Trump? -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:42:45 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/10/18 9:37 AM, justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: ...being slammed by a result of global warming, a concept denied by the ignorant, intellectually lazy, coal baron wannabe in the White House. Why are you so up tight, Fat Harry? I have grandkids. I'd like them to have a decent world in which to live. Obviously, you don't give a **** about the sort of world we're leaving to your non-existent next generation. You've got a humongous yard with a big, Maryland-red barn and a quarter-mile driveway. Plant a few hundred trees! |
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On 10/10/2018 9:08 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
...being slammed by a result of global warming, a concept denied by the ignorant, intellectually lazy, coal baron wannabe in the White House. When did Mother Nature invent hurricanes? 1960? |
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:08:51 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: ...being slammed by a result of global warming, a concept denied by the ignorant, intellectually lazy, coal baron wannabe in the White House. Yeah, we never had hurricanes before 1/20/2017, That *******! |
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 12:44:43 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 10/10/18 12:38 PM, wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:08:51 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: ...being slammed by a result of global warming, a concept denied by the ignorant, intellectually lazy, coal baron wannabe in the White House. Yeah, we never had hurricanes before 1/20/2017, That *******! No surprise you and your fellow Trumpsters are ignoring what the climate scientists are saying. Perhaps we should be looking at what the economists and political science people are saying. There are 4-5 billion people in the 3d world who all want electricity, heat in the winter, A/C in the summer and a car. No matter what we do, increased energy demand is coming. Global warming is caused by population growth and upward mobility. Do you think either will stop? Of course it might. I worry a lot more about nuclear winter than I do global warming. |
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 13:58:03 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 10/10/18 1:54 PM, wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 12:44:43 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/10/18 12:38 PM, wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:08:51 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: ...being slammed by a result of global warming, a concept denied by the ignorant, intellectually lazy, coal baron wannabe in the White House. Yeah, we never had hurricanes before 1/20/2017, That *******! No surprise you and your fellow Trumpsters are ignoring what the climate scientists are saying. Perhaps we should be looking at what the economists and political science people are saying. There are 4-5 billion people in the 3d world who all want electricity, heat in the winter, A/C in the summer and a car. No matter what we do, increased energy demand is coming. Global warming is caused by population growth and upward mobility. Do you think either will stop? Of course it might. I worry a lot more about nuclear winter than I do global warming. As you are not a climate scientist and have absolutely no serious scientific credentials in that field or any other scientific field, I'll believe the climate scientists and other scientists. And what the latter are doing includes trying to force us to develop and implement fossil fuel alternatives and to cut back on the use of fossil fuels. As usual you did not reading for content. The issue is not what the developed world is going to do. That guy in Sub Saharan Africa, South Asia or China is going to use the energy he can afford and that is not $50,000 worth of solar collectors on his roof. Actually very few Americans can either. You are getting ready to tell me about all of the solar in China but you won't tell me that they are also the worlds largest consumer of coal. They make solar collectors, mostly for export in a coal fired plant. The 4,000,000,000 3d worlders who are not in the top 1% are going to burn the cheapest fuel they can and that is coal or other fossil fuels. It is also a fact that global CO2 rise tracks population as closely as any other metric. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/co2%20vs%20population.jpg |
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John H. Wrote in message:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:42:45 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/10/18 9:37 AM, justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: ...being slammed by a result of global warming, a concept denied by the ignorant, intellectually lazy, coal baron wannabe in the White House. Why are you so up tight, Fat Harry? I have grandkids. I'd like them to have a decent world in which to live. Obviously, you don't give a **** about the sort of world we're leaving to your non-existent next generation. You've got a humongous yard with a big, Maryland-red barn and a quarter-mile driveway. Plant a few hundred trees! Fat Harry hasn't propigated that myth since google showed us what 15 Rosedale Lane really looks like. From the corner of her house her driveway measures 99 feet to the street. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 10/10/18 12:38 PM, wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:08:51 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: ...being slammed by a result of global warming, a concept denied by the ignorant, intellectually lazy, coal baron wannabe in the White House. Yeah, we never had hurricanes before 1/20/2017, That *******! No surprise you and your fellow Trumpsters are ignoring what the climate scientists are saying. Oh, wait...because of your high school diploma, coast guard training, career as an IBM whatever you did, and local building inspector, you know more than they do. I get it. And, of course, there is your undeniable expertise on mental illnesses. Lighten up now. Greg seems to be the only one taking you seriously enough to try to engage you in meaningful conversation. Yet you are too scared to engage him in a respectful manner. You are a ****ing idiot of the highest magnitude. Yes you Fat Harry. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 14:49:46 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 10/10/18 12:38 PM, wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:08:51 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: ...being slammed by a result of global warming, a concept denied by the ignorant, intellectually lazy, coal baron wannabe in the White House. Yeah, we never had hurricanes before 1/20/2017, That *******! No surprise you and your fellow Trumpsters are ignoring what the climate scientists are saying. Oh, wait...because of your high school diploma, coast guard training, career as an IBM whatever you did, and local building inspector, you know more than they do. I get it. And, of course, there is your undeniable expertise on mental illnesses. Lighten up now. Greg seems to be the only one taking you seriously enough to try to engage you in meaningful conversation. Yet you are too scared to engage him in a respectful manner. You are a ****ing idiot of the highest magnitude. Yes you Fat Harry. ~~Snerk~~! I agree wholeheartedly and unequivocally with this post! Right, Don? |
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The John flushes his head again.....
"~~Snerk~~!Â* I agree wholeheartedly and unequivocally with this post!Â* Right, Don?" You wouldn't know right from write..or even White! Why do y'all keep copying my lines? |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/10/18 12:38 PM, wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:08:51 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: ...being slammed by a result of global warming, a concept denied by the ignorant, intellectually lazy, coal baron wannabe in the White House. Yeah, we never had hurricanes before 1/20/2017, That *******! No surprise you and your fellow Trumpsters are ignoring what the climate scientists are saying. Oh, wait...because of your high school diploma, coast guard training, career as an IBM whatever you did, and local building inspector, you know more than they do. I get it. And, of course, there is your undeniable expertise on mental illnesses. You have degrees in English. That’s it. Not meteorology, not mental health, not science. Why do you think you are qualified to comment on these subjects? |
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On 10/10/2018 12:44 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/10/18 12:38 PM, wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:08:51 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: ...being slammed by a result of global warming, a concept denied by the ignorant, intellectually lazy, coal baron wannabe in the White House. Yeah, we never had hurricanes before 1/20/2017, That *******! No surprise you and your fellow Trumpsters are ignoring what the climate scientists are saying. Oh, wait...because of your highÂ* schoolÂ* diploma, coast guard training, career as an IBM whatever youÂ* did, and local building inspector, you know more than they do. I get it.Â* And, of course, there is yourÂ* undeniable expertise on mentalÂ* illnesses. I don't think anyone questions climate change. It has changed many, many times since the birth of planet Earth. The question is how much have we contributed to the current cycle of global warming. The bigger question is what makes some think we can do anything about it. |
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On 10/10/2018 1:58 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/10/18 1:54 PM, wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 12:44:43 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/10/18 12:38 PM, wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:08:51 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: ...being slammed by a result of global warming, a concept denied by the ignorant, intellectually lazy, coal baron wannabe in the White House. Yeah, we never had hurricanes before 1/20/2017, That *******! No surprise you and your fellow Trumpsters are ignoring what the climate scientists are saying. Perhaps we should be looking at what the economists and political science people are saying. There are 4-5 billion people in the 3d world who all want electricity, heat in the winter, A/C in the summer and a car. No matter what we do, increased energy demand is coming. Global warming is caused by population growth and upward mobility. Do you think either will stop? Of course it might. I worry a lot more about nuclear winter than I do global warming. As you are not a climate scientist and have absolutely no serious scientific credentials in that field or any other scientific field, I'll believe the climate scientists and other scientists. And what the latter are doing includes trying to force us to develop and implement fossil fuel alternatives and to cut back on the use of fossil fuels. You are not a climate scientist either and have absolutely no serious scientific credentials in that field. There are many scientist *with* the proper credentials who argue that climate change is a naturally occurring phenomena and mankind, as important as we may thing we are, has very little to do with it. As non-scientists we all have the right to believe what makes logical sense to us. You just happen to believe anything anybody tells you if it fits with your general political views. |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/10/18 1:54 PM, wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 12:44:43 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/10/18 12:38 PM, wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:08:51 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: ...being slammed by a result of global warming, a concept denied by the ignorant, intellectually lazy, coal baron wannabe in the White House. Yeah, we never had hurricanes before 1/20/2017, That *******! No surprise you and your fellow Trumpsters are ignoring what the climate scientists are saying. Perhaps we should be looking at what the economists and political science people are saying. There are 4-5 billion people in the 3d world who all want electricity, heat in the winter, A/C in the summer and a car. No matter what we do, increased energy demand is coming. Global warming is caused by population growth and upward mobility. Do you think either will stop? Of course it might. I worry a lot more about nuclear winter than I do global warming. As you are not a climate scientist and have absolutely no serious scientific credentials in that field or any other scientific field, I'll believe the climate scientists and other scientists. And what the latter are doing includes trying to force us to develop and implement fossil fuel alternatives and to cut back on the use of fossil fuels. You have degrees in English. That’s it. Not meteorology, not mental health, not science. Why do you think you are qualified to comment on these subjects? |
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 21:16:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/10/18 12:38 PM, wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:08:51 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: ...being slammed by a result of global warming, a concept denied by the ignorant, intellectually lazy, coal baron wannabe in the White House. Yeah, we never had hurricanes before 1/20/2017, That *******! No surprise you and your fellow Trumpsters are ignoring what the climate scientists are saying. Oh, wait...because of your high school diploma, coast guard training, career as an IBM whatever you did, and local building inspector, you know more than they do. I get it. And, of course, there is your undeniable expertise on mental illnesses. You have degrees in English. That’s it. Not meteorology, not mental health, not science. Why do you think you are qualified to comment on these subjects? Harry is incapable of disputing the things I say so he dismisses me personally flaunting a mediocre degree from a tertiary university 50 years ago. |
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 13:33:43 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:
The John flushes his head again..... "~~Snerk~~!* I agree wholeheartedly and unequivocally with this post!* Right, Don?" You wouldn't know right from write..or even White! Why do y'all keep copying my lines? I'm a firm believer in some of Charles Caleb Colton's quotes. Aren't y'all? |
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 17:33:12 -0400, wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 21:16:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/10/18 12:38 PM, wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:08:51 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: ...being slammed by a result of global warming, a concept denied by the ignorant, intellectually lazy, coal baron wannabe in the White House. Yeah, we never had hurricanes before 1/20/2017, That *******! No surprise you and your fellow Trumpsters are ignoring what the climate scientists are saying. Oh, wait...because of your high school diploma, coast guard training, career as an IBM whatever you did, and local building inspector, you know more than they do. I get it. And, of course, there is your undeniable expertise on mental illnesses. You have degrees in English. That’s it. Not meteorology, not mental health, not science. Why do you think you are qualified to comment on these subjects? Harry is incapable of disputing the things I say so he dismisses me personally flaunting a mediocre degree from a tertiary university 50 years ago. Yeah, but...he's only been doing that for several years. Give him a break. Eventually he'll pick up on the ass he makes of himself. |
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 17:19:17 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 10/10/2018 12:44 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/10/18 12:38 PM, wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:08:51 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: ...being slammed by a result of global warming, a concept denied by the ignorant, intellectually lazy, coal baron wannabe in the White House. Yeah, we never had hurricanes before 1/20/2017, That *******! No surprise you and your fellow Trumpsters are ignoring what the climate scientists are saying. Oh, wait...because of your high* school* diploma, coast guard training, career as an IBM whatever you* did, and local building inspector, you know more than they do. I get it.* And, of course, there is your* undeniable expertise on mental* illnesses. I don't think anyone questions climate change. It has changed many, many times since the birth of planet Earth. The question is how much have we contributed to the current cycle of global warming. The bigger question is what makes some think we can do anything about it. You mean all that money I sent to Al Gore isn't going to save the planet? Holy ****. |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/10/18 9:37 AM, justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: ...being slammed by a result of global warming, a concept denied by the ignorant, intellectually lazy, coal baron wannabe in the White House. Why are you so up tight, Fat Harry? I have grandkids. I'd like them to have a decent world in which to live. Obviously, you don't give a **** about the sort of world we're leaving to your non-existent next generation. You could pay your taxes. That would be a good start. |
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True North wrote:
The John flushes his head again..... "~~Snerk~~! I agree wholeheartedly and unequivocally with this post! Right, Don?" You wouldn't know right from write..or even White! Why do y'all keep copying my lines? That was my line. You stole it, dummy. |
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 17:27:05 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 10/10/2018 1:58 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/10/18 1:54 PM, wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 12:44:43 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/10/18 12:38 PM, wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:08:51 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: ...being slammed by a result of global warming, a concept denied by the ignorant, intellectually lazy, coal baron wannabe in the White House. Yeah, we never had hurricanes before 1/20/2017, That *******! No surprise you and your fellow Trumpsters are ignoring what the climate scientists are saying. Perhaps we should be looking at what the economists and political science people are saying. There are 4-5 billion people in the 3d world who all want electricity, heat in the winter, A/C in the summer and a car. No matter what we do, increased energy demand is coming. Global warming is caused by population growth and upward mobility. Do you think either will stop? Of course it might. I worry a lot more about nuclear winter than I do global warming. As you are not a climate scientist and have absolutely no serious scientific credentials in that field or any other scientific field, I'll believe the climate scientists and other scientists. And what the latter are doing includes trying to force us to develop and implement fossil fuel alternatives and to cut back on the use of fossil fuels. You are not a climate scientist either and have absolutely no serious scientific credentials in that field. There are many scientist *with* the proper credentials who argue that climate change is a naturally occurring phenomena and mankind, as important as we may thing we are, has very little to do with it. As non-scientists we all have the right to believe what makes logical sense to us. You just happen to believe anything anybody tells you if it fits with your general political views. === There is clear and convincing evidence that the planet is indeed getting warmer. There is also a great deal of evidence that warm cycles have occurred many times in the past, as well as cold cycles, aka, the ice age. There have been serious scientific attempts, through the study of core samples in ancient ice, to see if past warming and cooling episodes correlated to levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide. Apparently there is some evidence for that also. The jury is still out on what caused these past fluctuations in CO2 but it's fairly certain that it wasn't caused by the burning of fossil fuels. There's a lot that is still unknown, that much is for sure. Reducing our dependence on fossil fuels for energy production seems like a good long term plan for many reasons however. Europe is way ahead of us in harnessing wind power, and we are somewhat behind in exploiting solar energy. But there are some encouraging signs that we're making progress. For anyone who doubts that the planet is getting warmer, I'd encourage them to watch a documentary on Netflix called "Chasing Ice". It is very well done, and watching huge glaciers disappear before your eyes on time lapse photography will make a believer out of you. It is totally apolitical and non-judgemental. |
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 21:27:58 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/10/18 1:54 PM, wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 12:44:43 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/10/18 12:38 PM, wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:08:51 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: ...being slammed by a result of global warming, a concept denied by the ignorant, intellectually lazy, coal baron wannabe in the White House. Yeah, we never had hurricanes before 1/20/2017, That *******! No surprise you and your fellow Trumpsters are ignoring what the climate scientists are saying. Perhaps we should be looking at what the economists and political science people are saying. There are 4-5 billion people in the 3d world who all want electricity, heat in the winter, A/C in the summer and a car. No matter what we do, increased energy demand is coming. Global warming is caused by population growth and upward mobility. Do you think either will stop? Of course it might. I worry a lot more about nuclear winter than I do global warming. As you are not a climate scientist and have absolutely no serious scientific credentials in that field or any other scientific field, I'll believe the climate scientists and other scientists. And what the latter are doing includes trying to force us to develop and implement fossil fuel alternatives and to cut back on the use of fossil fuels. You have degrees in English. That’s it. Not meteorology, not mental health, not science. Why do you think you are qualified to comment on these subjects? === It's his narcissistic birthright! :-) |
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 17:19:17 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 10/10/2018 12:44 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/10/18 12:38 PM, wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:08:51 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: ...being slammed by a result of global warming, a concept denied by the ignorant, intellectually lazy, coal baron wannabe in the White House. Yeah, we never had hurricanes before 1/20/2017, That *******! No surprise you and your fellow Trumpsters are ignoring what the climate scientists are saying. Oh, wait...because of your highÂ* schoolÂ* diploma, coast guard training, career as an IBM whatever youÂ* did, and local building inspector, you know more than they do. I get it.Â* And, of course, there is yourÂ* undeniable expertise on mentalÂ* illnesses. I don't think anyone questions climate change. It has changed many, many times since the birth of planet Earth. The question is how much have we contributed to the current cycle of global warming. The bigger question is what makes some think we can do anything about it. That last statement sums it up for me. Humans are contributing to the change in the climate. I have little doubt of that. What I do doubt is that we can change our lifestyle enough to alter the course in any significant way without a nuclear war that scrubs a couple billion off the population and throws a ****load of dust into the atmosphere. That will be far more devastating than a few degrees of temperature rise and very likely if we crash the world economy chasing rainbows. As I posted before, when you plot CO2 and total population, the graphs look very much alike going back long before the industrial revolution. Man simply being here created that CO2 bloom. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/co2%20vs%20population.jpg |
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 19:49:40 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 17:27:05 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/10/2018 1:58 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/10/18 1:54 PM, wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 12:44:43 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/10/18 12:38 PM, wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:08:51 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: ...being slammed by a result of global warming, a concept denied by the ignorant, intellectually lazy, coal baron wannabe in the White House. Yeah, we never had hurricanes before 1/20/2017, That *******! No surprise you and your fellow Trumpsters are ignoring what the climate scientists are saying. Perhaps we should be looking at what the economists and political science people are saying. There are 4-5 billion people in the 3d world who all want electricity, heat in the winter, A/C in the summer and a car. No matter what we do, increased energy demand is coming. Global warming is caused by population growth and upward mobility. Do you think either will stop? Of course it might. I worry a lot more about nuclear winter than I do global warming. As you are not a climate scientist and have absolutely no serious scientific credentials in that field or any other scientific field, I'll believe the climate scientists and other scientists. And what the latter are doing includes trying to force us to develop and implement fossil fuel alternatives and to cut back on the use of fossil fuels. You are not a climate scientist either and have absolutely no serious scientific credentials in that field. There are many scientist *with* the proper credentials who argue that climate change is a naturally occurring phenomena and mankind, as important as we may thing we are, has very little to do with it. As non-scientists we all have the right to believe what makes logical sense to us. You just happen to believe anything anybody tells you if it fits with your general political views. === There is clear and convincing evidence that the planet is indeed getting warmer. There is also a great deal of evidence that warm cycles have occurred many times in the past, as well as cold cycles, aka, the ice age. There have been serious scientific attempts, through the study of core samples in ancient ice, to see if past warming and cooling episodes correlated to levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide. Apparently there is some evidence for that also. The jury is still out on what caused these past fluctuations in CO2 but it's fairly certain that it wasn't caused by the burning of fossil fuels. There's a lot that is still unknown, that much is for sure. Reducing our dependence on fossil fuels for energy production seems like a good long term plan for many reasons however. Europe is way ahead of us in harnessing wind power, and we are somewhat behind in exploiting solar energy. But there are some encouraging signs that we're making progress. For anyone who doubts that the planet is getting warmer, I'd encourage them to watch a documentary on Netflix called "Chasing Ice". It is very well done, and watching huge glaciers disappear before your eyes on time lapse photography will make a believer out of you. It is totally apolitical and non-judgemental. The problem for greenhouse gases is not what the 1st world does. It is what the 3d world does and they have about 3/4ths of the world population. If they keep burning rain forests, clearing grasslands for agriculture or development and chasing the 1st world dream by using exponentially more "dirty" energy, it really doesn't matter if we throw a few Hummers into the volcano and put a solar panel on our roof. |
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Ditzy Dan Kruger blathers on and on...
True North wrote:Â* The John flushes his head again.....Â* Â* "~~Snerk~~!Â* I agree wholeheartedly and unequivocally with this post!Â* Â* Right, Don?"Â* Â* Â* You wouldn't know right from write..or even White!Â* Why do y'all keep copying my lines?Â* "That was my line. Â*You stole it, dummy." You couldn't come up with a line like that if you had a month of Sunday's to try.Â* |
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On 10/10/18 5:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/10/2018 12:44 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/10/18 12:38 PM, wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:08:51 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: ...being slammed by a result of global warming, a concept denied by the ignorant, intellectually lazy, coal baron wannabe in the White House. Yeah, we never had hurricanes before 1/20/2017, That *******! No surprise you and your fellow Trumpsters are ignoring what the climate scientists are saying. Oh, wait...because of your high schoolÂ* diploma, coast guard training, career as an IBM whatever you did, and local building inspector, you know more than they do. I get it.Â* And, of course, there is yourÂ* undeniable expertise on mental illnesses. I don't think anyone questions climate change.Â* It has changed many, many times since the birth of planet Earth. The question is how much have we contributed to the current cycle of global warming.Â* The bigger question is what makes some thinkÂ* we can do anything about it. The overwhelming majority of scientists who know about climate change say we can slow down global warming, if not reverse it. Slowing it down is important. |
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On 10/10/18 5:33 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 21:16:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/10/18 12:38 PM, wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:08:51 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: ...being slammed by a result of global warming, a concept denied by the ignorant, intellectually lazy, coal baron wannabe in the White House. Yeah, we never had hurricanes before 1/20/2017, That *******! No surprise you and your fellow Trumpsters are ignoring what the climate scientists are saying. Oh, wait...because of your high school diploma, coast guard training, career as an IBM whatever you did, and local building inspector, you know more than they do. I get it. And, of course, there is your undeniable expertise on mental illnesses. You have degrees in English. That’s it. Not meteorology, not mental health, not science. Why do you think you are qualified to comment on these subjects? Harry is incapable of disputing the things I say so he dismisses me personally flaunting a mediocre degree from a tertiary university 50 years ago. As I have told you many times, I have no interest in debating with the posters in rec.boats. Whatever you may think of my college degrees, at least I have them. |
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Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 10/10/18 5:33 PM, wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 21:16:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/10/18 12:38 PM, wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:08:51 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: ...being slammed by a result of global warming, a concept denied by the ignorant, intellectually lazy, coal baron wannabe in the White House. Yeah, we never had hurricanes before 1/20/2017, That *******! No surprise you and your fellow Trumpsters are ignoring what the climate scientists are saying. Oh, wait...because of your high school diploma, coast guard training, career as an IBM whatever you did, and local building inspector, you know more than they do. I get it. And, of course, there is your undeniable expertise on mental illnesses. You have degrees in English. That?s it. Not meteorology, not mental health, not science. Why do you think you are qualified to comment on these subjects? Harry is incapable of disputing the things I say so he dismisses me personally flaunting a mediocre degree from a tertiary university 50 years ago. As I have told you many times, I have no interest in debating with the posters in rec.boats. Whatever you may think of my college degrees, at least I have them. Oh boy. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 10/10/18 5:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/10/2018 12:44 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/10/18 12:38 PM, wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:08:51 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: ...being slammed by a result of global warming, a concept denied by the ignorant, intellectually lazy, coal baron wannabe in the White House. Yeah, we never had hurricanes before 1/20/2017, That *******! No surprise you and your fellow Trumpsters are ignoring what the climate scientists are saying. Oh, wait...because of your high school diploma, coast guard training, career as an IBM whatever you did, and local building inspector, you know more than they do. I get it. And, of course, there is your undeniable expertise on mental illnesses. I don't think anyone questions climate change. It has changed many, many times since the birth of planet Earth. The question is how much have we contributed to the current cycle of global warming. The bigger question is what makes some think we can do anything about it. The overwhelming majority of scientists who know about climate change say we can slow down global warming, if not reverse it. Slowing it down is important. Where is it written? -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
...being slammed by a result of global warming, a concept denied by the ignorant, intellectually lazy, coal baron wannabe in the White House. You are over medicated. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 20:43:37 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 10/10/18 5:33 PM, wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 21:16:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/10/18 12:38 PM, wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:08:51 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: ...being slammed by a result of global warming, a concept denied by the ignorant, intellectually lazy, coal baron wannabe in the White House. Yeah, we never had hurricanes before 1/20/2017, That *******! No surprise you and your fellow Trumpsters are ignoring what the climate scientists are saying. Oh, wait...because of your high school diploma, coast guard training, career as an IBM whatever you did, and local building inspector, you know more than they do. I get it. And, of course, there is your undeniable expertise on mental illnesses. You have degrees in English. That’s it. Not meteorology, not mental health, not science. Why do you think you are qualified to comment on these subjects? Harry is incapable of disputing the things I say so he dismisses me personally flaunting a mediocre degree from a tertiary university 50 years ago. As I have told you many times, I have no interest in debating with the posters in rec.boats. Whatever you may think of my college degrees, at least I have them. === I think that we'd all concede that you are truly an educated fool. |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 17:27:05 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/10/2018 1:58 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/10/18 1:54 PM, wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 12:44:43 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/10/18 12:38 PM, wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:08:51 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: ...being slammed by a result of global warming, a concept denied by the ignorant, intellectually lazy, coal baron wannabe in the White House. Yeah, we never had hurricanes before 1/20/2017, That *******! No surprise you and your fellow Trumpsters are ignoring what the climate scientists are saying. Perhaps we should be looking at what the economists and political science people are saying. There are 4-5 billion people in the 3d world who all want electricity, heat in the winter, A/C in the summer and a car. No matter what we do, increased energy demand is coming. Global warming is caused by population growth and upward mobility. Do you think either will stop? Of course it might. I worry a lot more about nuclear winter than I do global warming. As you are not a climate scientist and have absolutely no serious scientific credentials in that field or any other scientific field, I'll believe the climate scientists and other scientists. And what the latter are doing includes trying to force us to develop and implement fossil fuel alternatives and to cut back on the use of fossil fuels. You are not a climate scientist either and have absolutely no serious scientific credentials in that field. There are many scientist *with* the proper credentials who argue that climate change is a naturally occurring phenomena and mankind, as important as we may thing we are, has very little to do with it. As non-scientists we all have the right to believe what makes logical sense to us. You just happen to believe anything anybody tells you if it fits with your general political views. === There is clear and convincing evidence that the planet is indeed getting warmer. There is also a great deal of evidence that warm cycles have occurred many times in the past, as well as cold cycles, aka, the ice age. There have been serious scientific attempts, through the study of core samples in ancient ice, to see if past warming and cooling episodes correlated to levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide. Apparently there is some evidence for that also. The jury is still out on what caused these past fluctuations in CO2 but it's fairly certain that it wasn't caused by the burning of fossil fuels. There's a lot that is still unknown, that much is for sure. Reducing our dependence on fossil fuels for energy production seems like a good long term plan for many reasons however. Europe is way ahead of us in harnessing wind power, and we are somewhat behind in exploiting solar energy. But there are some encouraging signs that we're making progress. For anyone who doubts that the planet is getting warmer, I'd encourage them to watch a documentary on Netflix called "Chasing Ice". It is very well done, and watching huge glaciers disappear before your eyes on time lapse photography will make a believer out of you. It is totally apolitical and non-judgemental. 10,000 years ago, Yosemite valley was a mile deep in ice. Been somewhat warming since then. Interesting when we were in Waterton Park, the guide on the cruise boat told us the glaciers in both Waterton and Glacier National Park, that are disappearing were only from the 1800’s. Not ancient times. |
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