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On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 20:11:38 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/2/18 6:34 PM, justan wrote: To determine what happens or doesn't happen on public property. President Trump participated in dubious tax schemes during the 1990s, including instances of outright fraud, that greatly increased the fortune he received from his parents, an investigation by The New York Times has found. Mr. Trump won the presidency proclaiming himself a self-made billionaire, and he has long insisted that his father, the legendary New York City builder Fred C. Trump, provided almost no financial help. But The Times’s investigation, based on a vast trove of confidential tax returns and financial records, reveals that Mr. Trump received the equivalent today of at least $413 million from his father’s real estate empire, starting when he was a toddler and continuing to this day. Much of this money came to Mr. Trump because he helped his parents dodge taxes. He and his siblings set up a sham corporation to disguise millions of dollars in gifts from their parents, records and interviews show. Records indicate that Mr. Trump helped his father take improper tax deductions worth millions more. He also helped formulate a strategy to undervalue his parents’ real estate holdings by hundreds of millions of dollars on tax returns, sharply reducing the tax bill when those properties were transferred to him and his siblings. These maneuvers met with little resistance from the Internal Revenue Service, The Times found. The president’s parents, Fred and Mary Trump, transferred well over $1 billion in wealth to their children, which could have produced a tax bill of at least $550 million under the 55 percent tax rate then imposed on gifts and inheritances. The Trumps paid a total of $52.2 million, or about 5 percent, tax records show. Shame on them for following the law. Gosh, I circumvent paying taxes by contributing to charity. Shame on me for taking the deduction! |
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On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 07:12:21 -0400, John H.
wrote: On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 20:11:38 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/2/18 6:34 PM, justan wrote: To determine what happens or doesn't happen on public property. President Trump participated in dubious tax schemes during the 1990s, including instances of outright fraud, that greatly increased the fortune he received from his parents, an investigation by The New York Times has found. Mr. Trump won the presidency proclaiming himself a self-made billionaire, and he has long insisted that his father, the legendary New York City builder Fred C. Trump, provided almost no financial help. But The Times’s investigation, based on a vast trove of confidential tax returns and financial records, reveals that Mr. Trump received the equivalent today of at least $413 million from his father’s real estate empire, starting when he was a toddler and continuing to this day. Much of this money came to Mr. Trump because he helped his parents dodge taxes. He and his siblings set up a sham corporation to disguise millions of dollars in gifts from their parents, records and interviews show. Records indicate that Mr. Trump helped his father take improper tax deductions worth millions more. He also helped formulate a strategy to undervalue his parents’ real estate holdings by hundreds of millions of dollars on tax returns, sharply reducing the tax bill when those properties were transferred to him and his siblings. These maneuvers met with little resistance from the Internal Revenue Service, The Times found. The president’s parents, Fred and Mary Trump, transferred well over $1 billion in wealth to their children, which could have produced a tax bill of at least $550 million under the 55 percent tax rate then imposed on gifts and inheritances. The Trumps paid a total of $52.2 million, or about 5 percent, tax records show. Shame on them for following the law. Gosh, I circumvent paying taxes by contributing to charity. Shame on me for taking the deduction! Harry would say you are establishing religion. |
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On 10/3/18 7:59 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 16:40:51 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 11:08:55 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 07:12:21 -0400, John H. wrote: On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 20:11:38 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/2/18 6:34 PM, justan wrote: To determine what happens or doesn't happen on public property. President Trump participated in dubious tax schemes during the 1990s, including instances of outright fraud, that greatly increased the fortune he received from his parents, an investigation by The New York Times has found. Mr. Trump won the presidency proclaiming himself a self-made billionaire, and he has long insisted that his father, the legendary New York City builder Fred C. Trump, provided almost no financial help. But The Times’s investigation, based on a vast trove of confidential tax returns and financial records, reveals that Mr. Trump received the equivalent today of at least $413 million from his father’s real estate empire, starting when he was a toddler and continuing to this day. Much of this money came to Mr. Trump because he helped his parents dodge taxes. He and his siblings set up a sham corporation to disguise millions of dollars in gifts from their parents, records and interviews show. Records indicate that Mr. Trump helped his father take improper tax deductions worth millions more. He also helped formulate a strategy to undervalue his parents’ real estate holdings by hundreds of millions of dollars on tax returns, sharply reducing the tax bill when those properties were transferred to him and his siblings. These maneuvers met with little resistance from the Internal Revenue Service, The Times found. The president’s parents, Fred and Mary Trump, transferred well over $1 billion in wealth to their children, which could have produced a tax bill of at least $550 million under the 55 percent tax rate then imposed on gifts and inheritances. The Trumps paid a total of $52.2 million, or about 5 percent, tax records show. Shame on them for following the law. Gosh, I circumvent paying taxes by contributing to charity. Shame on me for taking the deduction! Harry would say you are establishing religion. I'll admit some goes to religion, but most goes elsewhere. The reality is religious organizations as a rule return more of their contributions to the charity they support than the normal 501(C)(3) that we hear about (Red Cross, United Way etc) Their "directors" are not making 6 figure salaries. Folks like Harry would rather promote egregious greed than admit someone was promoting God And there you go, offering up another example of one the reasons why I don't think it worthwhile to engage in "debate" with you. You have no idea what I would "rather promote." I suspect churches spend more on promoting and paying themselves, their superstitions, their staffs, and their building funds than they do on pure charitable donations. Realistically, they consider themselves their own best charitable donation. We have a surprisingly large number of what might be called "mega-churches" around here, churches with fairly new or brand new huge fortresses of buildings, with large staffs, highly paid ministers, assistants, cars, even airplanes for the ministers. It takes a lot of money to support that sort of largess. It is unclear what real charities...helping the poor, those in need of shelter, medical care, the necessities of life, as it were...these organizations support. One thing most of them do, though, is pay for "missions" to search and bring in converts. Just the other day, I drove past a fundie church whose minister and some of its acolytes who were busy setting up their anti-abortion display to attract attention during the upcoming elections. I'm not aware of what that church does to support the unwanted children who result from their efforts. And, once again, though you never seem to "get it," I don't care what churches do, so long as they keep their superstitions to themselves and don't try to force in any way their beliefs on others who believe differently or not at all. |
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On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 20:37:15 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/3/18 7:59 PM, wrote: On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 16:40:51 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 11:08:55 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 07:12:21 -0400, John H. wrote: On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 20:11:38 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/2/18 6:34 PM, justan wrote: To determine what happens or doesn't happen on public property. President Trump participated in dubious tax schemes during the 1990s, including instances of outright fraud, that greatly increased the fortune he received from his parents, an investigation by The New York Times has found. Mr. Trump won the presidency proclaiming himself a self-made billionaire, and he has long insisted that his father, the legendary New York City builder Fred C. Trump, provided almost no financial help. But The Times’s investigation, based on a vast trove of confidential tax returns and financial records, reveals that Mr. Trump received the equivalent today of at least $413 million from his father’s real estate empire, starting when he was a toddler and continuing to this day. Much of this money came to Mr. Trump because he helped his parents dodge taxes. He and his siblings set up a sham corporation to disguise millions of dollars in gifts from their parents, records and interviews show. Records indicate that Mr. Trump helped his father take improper tax deductions worth millions more. He also helped formulate a strategy to undervalue his parents’ real estate holdings by hundreds of millions of dollars on tax returns, sharply reducing the tax bill when those properties were transferred to him and his siblings. These maneuvers met with little resistance from the Internal Revenue Service, The Times found. The president’s parents, Fred and Mary Trump, transferred well over $1 billion in wealth to their children, which could have produced a tax bill of at least $550 million under the 55 percent tax rate then imposed on gifts and inheritances. The Trumps paid a total of $52.2 million, or about 5 percent, tax records show. Shame on them for following the law. Gosh, I circumvent paying taxes by contributing to charity. Shame on me for taking the deduction! Harry would say you are establishing religion. I'll admit some goes to religion, but most goes elsewhere. The reality is religious organizations as a rule return more of their contributions to the charity they support than the normal 501(C)(3) that we hear about (Red Cross, United Way etc) Their "directors" are not making 6 figure salaries. Folks like Harry would rather promote egregious greed than admit someone was promoting God And there you go, offering up another example of one the reasons why I don't think it worthwhile to engage in "debate" with you. You have no idea what I would "rather promote." I suspect churches spend more on promoting and paying themselves, their superstitions, their staffs, and their building funds than they do on pure charitable donations. Realistically, they consider themselves their own best charitable donation. We have a surprisingly large number of what might be called "mega-churches" around here, churches with fairly new or brand new huge fortresses of buildings, with large staffs, highly paid ministers, assistants, cars, even airplanes for the ministers. It takes a lot of money to support that sort of largess. It is unclear what real charities...helping the poor, those in need of shelter, medical care, the necessities of life, as it were...these organizations support. One thing most of them do, though, is pay for "missions" to search and bring in converts. Just the other day, I drove past a fundie church whose minister and some of its acolytes who were busy setting up their anti-abortion display to attract attention during the upcoming elections. I'm not aware of what that church does to support the unwanted children who result from their efforts. And, once again, though you never seem to "get it," I don't care what churches do, so long as they keep their superstitions to themselves and don't try to force in any way their beliefs on others who believe differently or not at all. Nice diversion into your atheism but you did not address my statement. I still say religious charities send more money, as a percentage of their contributions, to the needy than most 501(C)(3)s like United way. I am not talking about TV preachers here. I am talking about churches like Tim's. The reason is simple. Tim's pastor is not making $1.2 million like United Way CEO Brian A. Gallagher and most of the actual workers are volunteers. |
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On 10/3/18 9:24 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 20:37:15 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/3/18 7:59 PM, wrote: On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 16:40:51 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 11:08:55 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 07:12:21 -0400, John H. wrote: On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 20:11:38 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/2/18 6:34 PM, justan wrote: To determine what happens or doesn't happen on public property. President Trump participated in dubious tax schemes during the 1990s, including instances of outright fraud, that greatly increased the fortune he received from his parents, an investigation by The New York Times has found. Mr. Trump won the presidency proclaiming himself a self-made billionaire, and he has long insisted that his father, the legendary New York City builder Fred C. Trump, provided almost no financial help. But The Times’s investigation, based on a vast trove of confidential tax returns and financial records, reveals that Mr. Trump received the equivalent today of at least $413 million from his father’s real estate empire, starting when he was a toddler and continuing to this day. Much of this money came to Mr. Trump because he helped his parents dodge taxes. He and his siblings set up a sham corporation to disguise millions of dollars in gifts from their parents, records and interviews show. Records indicate that Mr. Trump helped his father take improper tax deductions worth millions more. He also helped formulate a strategy to undervalue his parents’ real estate holdings by hundreds of millions of dollars on tax returns, sharply reducing the tax bill when those properties were transferred to him and his siblings. These maneuvers met with little resistance from the Internal Revenue Service, The Times found. The president’s parents, Fred and Mary Trump, transferred well over $1 billion in wealth to their children, which could have produced a tax bill of at least $550 million under the 55 percent tax rate then imposed on gifts and inheritances. The Trumps paid a total of $52.2 million, or about 5 percent, tax records show. Shame on them for following the law. Gosh, I circumvent paying taxes by contributing to charity. Shame on me for taking the deduction! Harry would say you are establishing religion. I'll admit some goes to religion, but most goes elsewhere. The reality is religious organizations as a rule return more of their contributions to the charity they support than the normal 501(C)(3) that we hear about (Red Cross, United Way etc) Their "directors" are not making 6 figure salaries. Folks like Harry would rather promote egregious greed than admit someone was promoting God And there you go, offering up another example of one the reasons why I don't think it worthwhile to engage in "debate" with you. You have no idea what I would "rather promote." I suspect churches spend more on promoting and paying themselves, their superstitions, their staffs, and their building funds than they do on pure charitable donations. Realistically, they consider themselves their own best charitable donation. We have a surprisingly large number of what might be called "mega-churches" around here, churches with fairly new or brand new huge fortresses of buildings, with large staffs, highly paid ministers, assistants, cars, even airplanes for the ministers. It takes a lot of money to support that sort of largess. It is unclear what real charities...helping the poor, those in need of shelter, medical care, the necessities of life, as it were...these organizations support. One thing most of them do, though, is pay for "missions" to search and bring in converts. Just the other day, I drove past a fundie church whose minister and some of its acolytes who were busy setting up their anti-abortion display to attract attention during the upcoming elections. I'm not aware of what that church does to support the unwanted children who result from their efforts. And, once again, though you never seem to "get it," I don't care what churches do, so long as they keep their superstitions to themselves and don't try to force in any way their beliefs on others who believe differently or not at all. Nice diversion into your atheism And once again, you are confused by your lack of serious, formal education. I am highly skeptical about the existence of a superior being that goes beyond the imagination and superstition of humans. That makes me agnostic, not an atheist.* I am, however, anti-religious. Religion is based entirely upon superstition and passed-along folk tales. And, once again, though you refuse to believe it...I don't care what religions do in their churches with their crop of believers. I only care when they attempt to push those beliefs onto society, onto those who believe differently, and on those who don't believe at all. * I don't have any problems with atheism. It certainly is more logical than religious beliefs. |
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Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 10/3/18 7:59 PM, wrote: On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 16:40:51 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 11:08:55 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 07:12:21 -0400, John H. wrote: On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 20:11:38 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/2/18 6:34 PM, justan wrote: To determine what happens or doesn't happen on public property. President Trump participated in dubious tax schemes during the 1990s, including instances of outright fraud, that greatly increased the fortune he received from his parents, an investigation by The New York Times has found. Mr. Trump won the presidency proclaiming himself a self-made billionaire, and he has long insisted that his father, the legendary New York City builder Fred C. Trump, provided almost no financial help. But The Times?s investigation, based on a vast trove of confidential tax returns and financial records, reveals that Mr. Trump received the equivalent today of at least $413 million from his father?s real estate empire, starting when he was a toddler and continuing to this day. Much of this money came to Mr. Trump because he helped his parents dodge taxes. He and his siblings set up a sham corporation to disguise millions of dollars in gifts from their parents, records and interviews show. Records indicate that Mr. Trump helped his father take improper tax deductions worth millions more. He also helped formulate a strategy to undervalue his parents? real estate holdings by hundreds of millions of dollars on tax returns, sharply reducing the tax bill when those properties were transferred to him and his siblings. These maneuvers met with little resistance from the Internal Revenue Service, The Times found. The president?s parents, Fred and Mary Trump, transferred well over $1 billion in wealth to their children, which could have produced a tax bill of at least $550 million under the 55 percent tax rate then imposed on gifts and inheritances. The Trumps paid a total of $52.2 million, or about 5 percent, tax records show. Shame on them for following the law. Gosh, I circumvent paying taxes by contributing to charity. Shame on me for taking the deduction! Harry would say you are establishing religion. I'll admit some goes to religion, but most goes elsewhere. The reality is religious organizations as a rule return more of their contributions to the charity they support than the normal 501(C)(3) that we hear about (Red Cross, United Way etc) Their "directors" are not making 6 figure salaries. Folks like Harry would rather promote egregious greed than admit someone was promoting God And there you go, offering up another example of one the reasons why I don't think it worthwhile to engage in "debate" with you. You have no idea what I would "rather promote." I suspect churches spend more on promoting and paying themselves, their superstitions, their staffs, and their building funds than they do on pure charitable donations. Realistically, they consider themselves their own best charitable donation. We have a surprisingly large number of what might be called "mega-churches" around here, churches with fairly new or brand new huge fortresses of buildings, with large staffs, highly paid ministers, assistants, cars, even airplanes for the ministers. It takes a lot of money to support that sort of largess. It is unclear what real charities...helping the poor, those in need of shelter, medical care, the necessities of life, as it were...these organizations support. One thing most of them do, though, is pay for "missions" to search and bring in converts. Just the other day, I drove past a fundie church whose minister and some of its acolytes who were busy setting up their anti-abortion display to attract attention during the upcoming elections. I'm not aware of what that church does to support the unwanted children who result from their efforts. And, once again, though you never seem to "get it," I don't care what churches do, so long as they keep their superstitions to themselves and don't try to force in any way their beliefs on others who believe differently or not at all. Now we get to the crux of rhe matter. Fat Harry is envious of anyone who has done good and done well while he remains a low life schmuck. It's as simple as that. The mysterious Fat Harry is unmasked. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 at 10:51:16 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message: And, once again, though you never seem to "get it," I don't care what churches do, so long as they keep their superstitions to themselves and don't try to force in any way their beliefs on others who believe differently or not at all. Now we get to the crux of the matter. Fat Harry is envious of anyone who has done good and done well while he remains a low life schmuck. It's as simple as that. The mysterious Fat Harry is unmasked. Heh. heh. heh. He's really ****ed that his wife didn't invite him on the midwest excursion she's on. The old boy would be a bit of a "cock block". He's left in the basement. Maybe that's the agreement they have, eh? ![]() |
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On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 20:37:15 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/3/18 7:59 PM, wrote: On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 16:40:51 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 11:08:55 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 07:12:21 -0400, John H. wrote: On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 20:11:38 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/2/18 6:34 PM, justan wrote: To determine what happens or doesn't happen on public property. President Trump participated in dubious tax schemes during the 1990s, including instances of outright fraud, that greatly increased the fortune he received from his parents, an investigation by The New York Times has found. Mr. Trump won the presidency proclaiming himself a self-made billionaire, and he has long insisted that his father, the legendary New York City builder Fred C. Trump, provided almost no financial help. But The Times’s investigation, based on a vast trove of confidential tax returns and financial records, reveals that Mr. Trump received the equivalent today of at least $413 million from his father’s real estate empire, starting when he was a toddler and continuing to this day. Much of this money came to Mr. Trump because he helped his parents dodge taxes. He and his siblings set up a sham corporation to disguise millions of dollars in gifts from their parents, records and interviews show. Records indicate that Mr. Trump helped his father take improper tax deductions worth millions more. He also helped formulate a strategy to undervalue his parents’ real estate holdings by hundreds of millions of dollars on tax returns, sharply reducing the tax bill when those properties were transferred to him and his siblings. These maneuvers met with little resistance from the Internal Revenue Service, The Times found. The president’s parents, Fred and Mary Trump, transferred well over $1 billion in wealth to their children, which could have produced a tax bill of at least $550 million under the 55 percent tax rate then imposed on gifts and inheritances. The Trumps paid a total of $52.2 million, or about 5 percent, tax records show. Shame on them for following the law. Gosh, I circumvent paying taxes by contributing to charity. Shame on me for taking the deduction! Harry would say you are establishing religion. I'll admit some goes to religion, but most goes elsewhere. The reality is religious organizations as a rule return more of their contributions to the charity they support than the normal 501(C)(3) that we hear about (Red Cross, United Way etc) Their "directors" are not making 6 figure salaries. Folks like Harry would rather promote egregious greed than admit someone was promoting God And there you go, offering up another example of one the reasons why I don't think it worthwhile to engage in "debate" with you. You have no idea what I would "rather promote." Harry, you don't think your continuous promotion of the **** you promote would provide an indication of what you would 'rather promote'? |
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