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Boating on Grand Lake
On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 15:55:30 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 14:18:53 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 14:10:27 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 13:17:53 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 17:10:25 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: John H. wrote: On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 08:59:53 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: Since it might be my last time out this year, I decided to head out to Grand Lake to flush the 3.0 MerCruiser and lower end with clean fresh water. Bit of a mistake...the rig parking area was chock full with trucks and boat trailers with the overflow area a bit of a hike away. Turns out it was some kind of fishing tournament with about 36 boats registered to participate. We got there around 1300 hrs and one of the fishermen told us the tournament ran till 1530 hrs. That limited us to about an hour and a half on the lake. Glad it was a big lake by local standards with these high powered bass type boats roaring along from position to position..then stopping to fish..sometimes in my way. I didn't want to pass too close while they were fishing. The lake surface was great and quite smooth until be bounced ov er wake after wake. anyyway, came back early to beat most of them but by the time I walked up, goy my rig and waited in line for the double ramp there must have been 20 to 30 boaats all milligg around the small dock..which I was hogging with the bow rider.I must admit, they were quite efficient recovering their boats..they would nose up to the dock..one guy would jump off to get the rig and the boat would back out to let someone else do the same. Only bad thing was they all seemed to power up on their trailers..moving the rocks at the submerged end of the ramp. This wouldn't be so bad in the spring but with the lake down a couple of feet or so...even I had to carefully back the trailer wheels to the very edge which had the water half cover my bunks. Anyway, mission accomplished...burned up some gas and flushed everything out. Powering a boat up onto the trailer scours the lake bed at the end of the ramp. You'd think the idiots up there would know better. I hope you don't do the same. Scouring is bad anytime. Most of us do that. Maybe we build better Ramps here. Shame on you. Although if the ramps extend far enough under water, which most don't, then powering up shouldn't be a problem. That is not really true. When we rebuilt our ramp we actually extended it 12' farther than what the builder recommended (pavement is 5' deep at the end at dead low tide, 35' from the water's edge) and the end is still blown out. We are still debating about what to do but my suggestion is to fill the hole with bowling ball sized rip rap stone, When you power load, the water will follow the ramp, no matter how long it is and wash out the end. My thinking is the rip rap will break up that flow. Our previous ramp had about 80 bags of concrete placed down there dry and allowed to cure. That seemed to mitigate the blow out problem. Then your ramp didn't extend far enough into the water to prevent scouring. Granted, a ridiculously long ramp might be necessary, but eventually the force of the water has to subside. Rip rap would help, or maybe a big upright lip at the end of the concrete ramp to change the flow direction. Here they put up signs on the ramps. It helps, but there's always some assholes who can't read - or are just too lazy to use their winch. We have a ridiculously long ramp and it still blows out. That just ends up being the perfect chute for the water. That is why I think the rip rap works. It breaks up the flow. Right now they aren't doing anything because I am the only one who really understands the problem and nobody believes me. I may have to take my Hookah and my Go Pro down there and make a movie. Why not use the winch? Problem solved. |
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#3
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Boating on Grand Lake
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 15:55:30 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 14:18:53 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 14:10:27 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 13:17:53 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 17:10:25 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: John H. wrote: On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 08:59:53 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: Since it might be my last time out this year, I decided to head out to Grand Lake to flush the 3.0 MerCruiser and lower end with clean fresh water. Bit of a mistake...the rig parking area was chock full with trucks and boat trailers with the overflow area a bit of a hike away. Turns out it was some kind of fishing tournament with about 36 boats registered to participate. We got there around 1300 hrs and one of the fishermen told us the tournament ran till 1530 hrs. That limited us to about an hour and a half on the lake. Glad it was a big lake by local standards with these high powered bass type boats roaring along from position to position..then stopping to fish..sometimes in my way. I didn't want to pass too close while they were fishing. The lake surface was great and quite smooth until be bounced ov er wake after wake. anyyway, came back early to beat most of them but by the time I walked up, goy my rig and waited in line for the double ramp there must have been 20 to 30 boaats all milligg around the small dock..which I was hogging with the bow rider.I must admit, they were quite efficient recovering their boats..they would nose up to the dock..one guy would jump off to get the rig and the boat would back out to let someone else do the same. Only bad thing was they all seemed to power up on their trailers..moving the rocks at the submerged end of the ramp. This wouldn't be so bad in the spring but with the lake down a couple of feet or so...even I had to carefully back the trailer wheels to the very edge which had the water half cover my bunks. Anyway, mission accomplished...burned up some gas and flushed everything out. Powering a boat up onto the trailer scours the lake bed at the end of the ramp. You'd think the idiots up there would know better. I hope you don't do the same. Scouring is bad anytime. Most of us do that. Maybe we build better Ramps here. Shame on you. Although if the ramps extend far enough under water, which most don't, then powering up shouldn't be a problem. That is not really true. When we rebuilt our ramp we actually extended it 12' farther than what the builder recommended (pavement is 5' deep at the end at dead low tide, 35' from the water's edge) and the end is still blown out. We are still debating about what to do but my suggestion is to fill the hole with bowling ball sized rip rap stone, When you power load, the water will follow the ramp, no matter how long it is and wash out the end. My thinking is the rip rap will break up that flow. Our previous ramp had about 80 bags of concrete placed down there dry and allowed to cure. That seemed to mitigate the blow out problem. Then your ramp didn't extend far enough into the water to prevent scouring. Granted, a ridiculously long ramp might be necessary, but eventually the force of the water has to subside. Rip rap would help, or maybe a big upright lip at the end of the concrete ramp to change the flow direction. Here they put up signs on the ramps. It helps, but there's always some assholes who can't read - or are just too lazy to use their winch. We have a ridiculously long ramp and it still blows out. That just ends up being the perfect chute for the water. That is why I think the rip rap works. It breaks up the flow. Right now they aren't doing anything because I am the only one who really understands the problem and nobody believes me. I may have to take my Hookah and my Go Pro down there and make a movie. Why not use the winch? Problem solved. Steep ramps, breaking winch straps, easy. |
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Boating on Grand Lake
On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 21:20:16 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:
John H. wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 15:55:30 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 14:18:53 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 14:10:27 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 13:17:53 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 17:10:25 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: John H. wrote: On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 08:59:53 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: Since it might be my last time out this year, I decided to head out to Grand Lake to flush the 3.0 MerCruiser and lower end with clean fresh water. Bit of a mistake...the rig parking area was chock full with trucks and boat trailers with the overflow area a bit of a hike away. Turns out it was some kind of fishing tournament with about 36 boats registered to participate. We got there around 1300 hrs and one of the fishermen told us the tournament ran till 1530 hrs. That limited us to about an hour and a half on the lake. Glad it was a big lake by local standards with these high powered bass type boats roaring along from position to position..then stopping to fish..sometimes in my way. I didn't want to pass too close while they were fishing. The lake surface was great and quite smooth until be bounced ov er wake after wake. anyyway, came back early to beat most of them but by the time I walked up, goy my rig and waited in line for the double ramp there must have been 20 to 30 boaats all milligg around the small dock..which I was hogging with the bow rider.I must admit, they were quite efficient recovering their boats..they would nose up to the dock..one guy would jump off to get the rig and the boat would back out to let someone else do the same. Only bad thing was they all seemed to power up on their trailers..moving the rocks at the submerged end of the ramp. This wouldn't be so bad in the spring but with the lake down a couple of feet or so...even I had to carefully back the trailer wheels to the very edge which had the water half cover my bunks. Anyway, mission accomplished...burned up some gas and flushed everything out. Powering a boat up onto the trailer scours the lake bed at the end of the ramp. You'd think the idiots up there would know better. I hope you don't do the same. Scouring is bad anytime. Most of us do that. Maybe we build better Ramps here. Shame on you. Although if the ramps extend far enough under water, which most don't, then powering up shouldn't be a problem. That is not really true. When we rebuilt our ramp we actually extended it 12' farther than what the builder recommended (pavement is 5' deep at the end at dead low tide, 35' from the water's edge) and the end is still blown out. We are still debating about what to do but my suggestion is to fill the hole with bowling ball sized rip rap stone, When you power load, the water will follow the ramp, no matter how long it is and wash out the end. My thinking is the rip rap will break up that flow. Our previous ramp had about 80 bags of concrete placed down there dry and allowed to cure. That seemed to mitigate the blow out problem. Then your ramp didn't extend far enough into the water to prevent scouring. Granted, a ridiculously long ramp might be necessary, but eventually the force of the water has to subside. Rip rap would help, or maybe a big upright lip at the end of the concrete ramp to change the flow direction. Here they put up signs on the ramps. It helps, but there's always some assholes who can't read - or are just too lazy to use their winch. We have a ridiculously long ramp and it still blows out. That just ends up being the perfect chute for the water. That is why I think the rip rap works. It breaks up the flow. Right now they aren't doing anything because I am the only one who really understands the problem and nobody believes me. I may have to take my Hookah and my Go Pro down there and make a movie. Why not use the winch? Problem solved. Steep ramps, breaking winch straps, easy. I was thinking cable. |
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Boating on Grand Lake
On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 21:20:16 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: John H. wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 15:55:30 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 14:18:53 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 14:10:27 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 13:17:53 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 17:10:25 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: John H. wrote: On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 08:59:53 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: Since it might be my last time out this year, I decided to head out to Grand Lake to flush the 3.0 MerCruiser and lower end with clean fresh water. Bit of a mistake...the rig parking area was chock full with trucks and boat trailers with the overflow area a bit of a hike away. Turns out it was some kind of fishing tournament with about 36 boats registered to participate. We got there around 1300 hrs and one of the fishermen told us the tournament ran till 1530 hrs. That limited us to about an hour and a half on the lake. Glad it was a big lake by local standards with these high powered bass type boats roaring along from position to position..then stopping to fish..sometimes in my way. I didn't want to pass too close while they were fishing. The lake surface was great and quite smooth until be bounced ov er wake after wake. anyyway, came back early to beat most of them but by the time I walked up, goy my rig and waited in line for the double ramp there must have been 20 to 30 boaats all milligg around the small dock..which I was hogging with the bow rider.I must admit, they were quite efficient recovering their boats..they would nose up to the dock..one guy would jump off to get the rig and the boat would back out to let someone else do the same. Only bad thing was they all seemed to power up on their trailers..moving the rocks at the submerged end of the ramp. This wouldn't be so bad in the spring but with the lake down a couple of feet or so...even I had to carefully back the trailer wheels to the very edge which had the water half cover my bunks. Anyway, mission accomplished...burned up some gas and flushed everything out. Powering a boat up onto the trailer scours the lake bed at the end of the ramp. You'd think the idiots up there would know better. I hope you don't do the same. Scouring is bad anytime. Most of us do that. Maybe we build better Ramps here. Shame on you. Although if the ramps extend far enough under water, which most don't, then powering up shouldn't be a problem. That is not really true. When we rebuilt our ramp we actually extended it 12' farther than what the builder recommended (pavement is 5' deep at the end at dead low tide, 35' from the water's edge) and the end is still blown out. We are still debating about what to do but my suggestion is to fill the hole with bowling ball sized rip rap stone, When you power load, the water will follow the ramp, no matter how long it is and wash out the end. My thinking is the rip rap will break up that flow. Our previous ramp had about 80 bags of concrete placed down there dry and allowed to cure. That seemed to mitigate the blow out problem. Then your ramp didn't extend far enough into the water to prevent scouring. Granted, a ridiculously long ramp might be necessary, but eventually the force of the water has to subside. Rip rap would help, or maybe a big upright lip at the end of the concrete ramp to change the flow direction. Here they put up signs on the ramps. It helps, but there's always some assholes who can't read - or are just too lazy to use their winch. We have a ridiculously long ramp and it still blows out. That just ends up being the perfect chute for the water. That is why I think the rip rap works. It breaks up the flow. Right now they aren't doing anything because I am the only one who really understands the problem and nobody believes me. I may have to take my Hookah and my Go Pro down there and make a movie. Why not use the winch? Problem solved. Steep ramps, breaking winch straps, easy. You need a better strap or use a cable. |
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Boating on Grand Lake
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On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 21:20:16 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: John H. wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 15:55:30 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 14:18:53 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 14:10:27 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 13:17:53 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 17:10:25 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: John H. wrote: On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 08:59:53 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: Since it might be my last time out this year, I decided to head out to Grand Lake to flush the 3.0 MerCruiser and lower end with clean fresh water. Bit of a mistake...the rig parking area was chock full with trucks and boat trailers with the overflow area a bit of a hike away. Turns out it was some kind of fishing tournament with about 36 boats registered to participate. We got there around 1300 hrs and one of the fishermen told us the tournament ran till 1530 hrs. That limited us to about an hour and a half on the lake. Glad it was a big lake by local standards with these high powered bass type boats roaring along from position to position..then stopping to fish..sometimes in my way. I didn't want to pass too close while they were fishing. The lake surface was great and quite smooth until be bounced ov er wake after wake. anyyway, came back early to beat most of them but by the time I walked up, goy my rig and waited in line for the double ramp there must have been 20 to 30 boaats all milligg around the small dock..which I was hogging with the bow rider.I must admit, they were quite efficient recovering their boats..they would nose up to the dock..one guy would jump off to get the rig and the boat would back out to let someone else do the same. Only bad thing was they all seemed to power up on their trailers..moving the rocks at the submerged end of the ramp. This wouldn't be so bad in the spring but with the lake down a couple of feet or so...even I had to carefully back the trailer wheels to the very edge which had the water half cover my bunks. Anyway, mission accomplished...burned up some gas and flushed everything out. Powering a boat up onto the trailer scours the lake bed at the end of the ramp. You'd think the idiots up there would know better. I hope you don't do the same. Scouring is bad anytime. Most of us do that. Maybe we build better Ramps here. Shame on you. Although if the ramps extend far enough under water, which most don't, then powering up shouldn't be a problem. That is not really true. When we rebuilt our ramp we actually extended it 12' farther than what the builder recommended (pavement is 5' deep at the end at dead low tide, 35' from the water's edge) and the end is still blown out. We are still debating about what to do but my suggestion is to fill the hole with bowling ball sized rip rap stone, When you power load, the water will follow the ramp, no matter how long it is and wash out the end. My thinking is the rip rap will break up that flow. Our previous ramp had about 80 bags of concrete placed down there dry and allowed to cure. That seemed to mitigate the blow out problem. Then your ramp didn't extend far enough into the water to prevent scouring. Granted, a ridiculously long ramp might be necessary, but eventually the force of the water has to subside. Rip rap would help, or maybe a big upright lip at the end of the concrete ramp to change the flow direction. Here they put up signs on the ramps. It helps, but there's always some assholes who can't read - or are just too lazy to use their winch. We have a ridiculously long ramp and it still blows out. That just ends up being the perfect chute for the water. That is why I think the rip rap works. It breaks up the flow. Right now they aren't doing anything because I am the only one who really understands the problem and nobody believes me. I may have to take my Hookah and my Go Pro down there and make a movie. Why not use the winch? Problem solved. Steep ramps, breaking winch straps, easy. You need a better strap or use a cable. Seems as if the straps seem to be Chinese junk these days, have broke two in the last two years. Hate the cable as they always fray and loose wires cut and hurt. |
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Boating on Grand Lake
On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 00:02:24 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: wrote: On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 21:20:16 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: John H. wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 15:55:30 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 14:18:53 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 14:10:27 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 13:17:53 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 17:10:25 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: John H. wrote: On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 08:59:53 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: Since it might be my last time out this year, I decided to head out to Grand Lake to flush the 3.0 MerCruiser and lower end with clean fresh water. Bit of a mistake...the rig parking area was chock full with trucks and boat trailers with the overflow area a bit of a hike away. Turns out it was some kind of fishing tournament with about 36 boats registered to participate. We got there around 1300 hrs and one of the fishermen told us the tournament ran till 1530 hrs. That limited us to about an hour and a half on the lake. Glad it was a big lake by local standards with these high powered bass type boats roaring along from position to position..then stopping to fish..sometimes in my way. I didn't want to pass too close while they were fishing. The lake surface was great and quite smooth until be bounced ov er wake after wake. anyyway, came back early to beat most of them but by the time I walked up, goy my rig and waited in line for the double ramp there must have been 20 to 30 boaats all milligg around the small dock..which I was hogging with the bow rider.I must admit, they were quite efficient recovering their boats..they would nose up to the dock..one guy would jump off to get the rig and the boat would back out to let someone else do the same. Only bad thing was they all seemed to power up on their trailers..moving the rocks at the submerged end of the ramp. This wouldn't be so bad in the spring but with the lake down a couple of feet or so...even I had to carefully back the trailer wheels to the very edge which had the water half cover my bunks. Anyway, mission accomplished...burned up some gas and flushed everything out. Powering a boat up onto the trailer scours the lake bed at the end of the ramp. You'd think the idiots up there would know better. I hope you don't do the same. Scouring is bad anytime. Most of us do that. Maybe we build better Ramps here. Shame on you. Although if the ramps extend far enough under water, which most don't, then powering up shouldn't be a problem. That is not really true. When we rebuilt our ramp we actually extended it 12' farther than what the builder recommended (pavement is 5' deep at the end at dead low tide, 35' from the water's edge) and the end is still blown out. We are still debating about what to do but my suggestion is to fill the hole with bowling ball sized rip rap stone, When you power load, the water will follow the ramp, no matter how long it is and wash out the end. My thinking is the rip rap will break up that flow. Our previous ramp had about 80 bags of concrete placed down there dry and allowed to cure. That seemed to mitigate the blow out problem. Then your ramp didn't extend far enough into the water to prevent scouring. Granted, a ridiculously long ramp might be necessary, but eventually the force of the water has to subside. Rip rap would help, or maybe a big upright lip at the end of the concrete ramp to change the flow direction. Here they put up signs on the ramps. It helps, but there's always some assholes who can't read - or are just too lazy to use their winch. We have a ridiculously long ramp and it still blows out. That just ends up being the perfect chute for the water. That is why I think the rip rap works. It breaks up the flow. Right now they aren't doing anything because I am the only one who really understands the problem and nobody believes me. I may have to take my Hookah and my Go Pro down there and make a movie. Why not use the winch? Problem solved. Steep ramps, breaking winch straps, easy. You need a better strap or use a cable. Seems as if the straps seem to be Chinese junk these days, have broke two in the last two years. Hate the cable as they always fray and loose wires cut and hurt. You can buy just about any kind of webbing you want these days so finding something U/V protected (what usually kills straps) and of sufficient strength is just up to your google skills. I bought some 3" nylon for the Ed Labrador Memorial bridge that would pick most trailer boats straight up from a crane. It think it is 15,000 pounds or something. It was way more than I needed but the price was right. (Ebay) This stuff looks like a seat belt but thicker and wider. |
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Boating on Grand Lake
wrote:
On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 00:02:24 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 21:20:16 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: John H. wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 15:55:30 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 14:18:53 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 14:10:27 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 13:17:53 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 17:10:25 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: John H. wrote: On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 08:59:53 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: Since it might be my last time out this year, I decided to head out to Grand Lake to flush the 3.0 MerCruiser and lower end with clean fresh water. Bit of a mistake...the rig parking area was chock full with trucks and boat trailers with the overflow area a bit of a hike away. Turns out it was some kind of fishing tournament with about 36 boats registered to participate. We got there around 1300 hrs and one of the fishermen told us the tournament ran till 1530 hrs. That limited us to about an hour and a half on the lake. Glad it was a big lake by local standards with these high powered bass type boats roaring along from position to position..then stopping to fish..sometimes in my way. I didn't want to pass too close while they were fishing. The lake surface was great and quite smooth until be bounced ov er wake after wake. anyyway, came back early to beat most of them but by the time I walked up, goy my rig and waited in line for the double ramp there must have been 20 to 30 boaats all milligg around the small dock..which I was hogging with the bow rider.I must admit, they were quite efficient recovering their boats..they would nose up to the dock..one guy would jump off to get the rig and the boat would back out to let someone else do the same. Only bad thing was they all seemed to power up on their trailers..moving the rocks at the submerged end of the ramp. This wouldn't be so bad in the spring but with the lake down a couple of feet or so...even I had to carefully back the trailer wheels to the very edge which had the water half cover my bunks. Anyway, mission accomplished...burned up some gas and flushed everything out. Powering a boat up onto the trailer scours the lake bed at the end of the ramp. You'd think the idiots up there would know better. I hope you don't do the same. Scouring is bad anytime. Most of us do that. Maybe we build better Ramps here. Shame on you. Although if the ramps extend far enough under water, which most don't, then powering up shouldn't be a problem. That is not really true. When we rebuilt our ramp we actually extended it 12' farther than what the builder recommended (pavement is 5' deep at the end at dead low tide, 35' from the water's edge) and the end is still blown out. We are still debating about what to do but my suggestion is to fill the hole with bowling ball sized rip rap stone, When you power load, the water will follow the ramp, no matter how long it is and wash out the end. My thinking is the rip rap will break up that flow. Our previous ramp had about 80 bags of concrete placed down there dry and allowed to cure. That seemed to mitigate the blow out problem. Then your ramp didn't extend far enough into the water to prevent scouring. Granted, a ridiculously long ramp might be necessary, but eventually the force of the water has to subside. Rip rap would help, or maybe a big upright lip at the end of the concrete ramp to change the flow direction. Here they put up signs on the ramps. It helps, but there's always some assholes who can't read - or are just too lazy to use their winch. We have a ridiculously long ramp and it still blows out. That just ends up being the perfect chute for the water. That is why I think the rip rap works. It breaks up the flow. Right now they aren't doing anything because I am the only one who really understands the problem and nobody believes me. I may have to take my Hookah and my Go Pro down there and make a movie. Why not use the winch? Problem solved. Steep ramps, breaking winch straps, easy. You need a better strap or use a cable. Seems as if the straps seem to be Chinese junk these days, have broke two in the last two years. Hate the cable as they always fray and loose wires cut and hurt. You can buy just about any kind of webbing you want these days so finding something U/V protected (what usually kills straps) and of sufficient strength is just up to your google skills. I bought some 3" nylon for the Ed Labrador Memorial bridge that would pick most trailer boats straight up from a crane. It think it is 15,000 pounds or something. It was way more than I needed but the price was right. (Ebay) This stuff looks like a seat belt but thicker and wider. I may do that next. Company in the north bay makes rigging straps. If you need to launch at Point Arena, have supply your own straps for the crane launch. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0ozbHS...fauxfullscreen |
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Boating on Grand Lake
On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 17:07:45 -0400, John H.
wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 15:55:30 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 14:18:53 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 14:10:27 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 13:17:53 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 17:10:25 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: John H. wrote: On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 08:59:53 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: Since it might be my last time out this year, I decided to head out to Grand Lake to flush the 3.0 MerCruiser and lower end with clean fresh water. Bit of a mistake...the rig parking area was chock full with trucks and boat trailers with the overflow area a bit of a hike away. Turns out it was some kind of fishing tournament with about 36 boats registered to participate. We got there around 1300 hrs and one of the fishermen told us the tournament ran till 1530 hrs. That limited us to about an hour and a half on the lake. Glad it was a big lake by local standards with these high powered bass type boats roaring along from position to position..then stopping to fish..sometimes in my way. I didn't want to pass too close while they were fishing. The lake surface was great and quite smooth until be bounced ov er wake after wake. anyyway, came back early to beat most of them but by the time I walked up, goy my rig and waited in line for the double ramp there must have been 20 to 30 boaats all milligg around the small dock..which I was hogging with the bow rider.I must admit, they were quite efficient recovering their boats..they would nose up to the dock..one guy would jump off to get the rig and the boat would back out to let someone else do the same. Only bad thing was they all seemed to power up on their trailers..moving the rocks at the submerged end of the ramp. This wouldn't be so bad in the spring but with the lake down a couple of feet or so...even I had to carefully back the trailer wheels to the very edge which had the water half cover my bunks. Anyway, mission accomplished...burned up some gas and flushed everything out. Powering a boat up onto the trailer scours the lake bed at the end of the ramp. You'd think the idiots up there would know better. I hope you don't do the same. Scouring is bad anytime. Most of us do that. Maybe we build better Ramps here. Shame on you. Although if the ramps extend far enough under water, which most don't, then powering up shouldn't be a problem. That is not really true. When we rebuilt our ramp we actually extended it 12' farther than what the builder recommended (pavement is 5' deep at the end at dead low tide, 35' from the water's edge) and the end is still blown out. We are still debating about what to do but my suggestion is to fill the hole with bowling ball sized rip rap stone, When you power load, the water will follow the ramp, no matter how long it is and wash out the end. My thinking is the rip rap will break up that flow. Our previous ramp had about 80 bags of concrete placed down there dry and allowed to cure. That seemed to mitigate the blow out problem. Then your ramp didn't extend far enough into the water to prevent scouring. Granted, a ridiculously long ramp might be necessary, but eventually the force of the water has to subside. Rip rap would help, or maybe a big upright lip at the end of the concrete ramp to change the flow direction. Here they put up signs on the ramps. It helps, but there's always some assholes who can't read - or are just too lazy to use their winch. We have a ridiculously long ramp and it still blows out. That just ends up being the perfect chute for the water. That is why I think the rip rap works. It breaks up the flow. Right now they aren't doing anything because I am the only one who really understands the problem and nobody believes me. I may have to take my Hookah and my Go Pro down there and make a movie. Why not use the winch? Problem solved. I am not the problem. I always winch. Power loading a pontoon can be pretty scary. If something gets a little off kilter you have a metal to metal thing going on. In real life I can back my trailer in far enough where it is a pretty short "winch" anyway. My trailer has a "Gene Simmons" tongue on it ;-) |
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