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True North[_2_] September 10th 18 02:09 PM

Not quite as advertised..
 
Cruise ship from Boston supposed to head to Bermuda diverted to Halifax and other Maritime ports.
Good thing they're mostly hardy New Englanders rather than Nancy Boys from way down south. It was 7 degrees C when I got up yesterday morning.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...ence-1.4816356

justan September 10th 18 02:46 PM

Not quite as advertised..
 
True North Wrote in message:
Cruise ship from Boston supposed to head to Bermuda diverted to Halifax and other Maritime ports.
Good thing they're mostly hardy New Englanders rather than Nancy Boys from way down south. It was 7 degrees C when I got up yesterday morning.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...ence-1.4816356


How disappointing for the cruise ship passengers. 7C is something
above freezing, right? It doesn't take a McCain style hero to
endure such cold weather. Buck up sissy boy.
--
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True North[_2_] September 10th 18 03:31 PM

Not quite as advertised..
 
On Monday, 10 September 2018 10:46:46 UTC-3, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
Cruise ship from Boston supposed to head to Bermuda diverted to Halifax and other Maritime ports.
Good thing they're mostly hardy New Englanders rather than Nancy Boys from way down south. It was 7 degrees C when I got up yesterday morning.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...ence-1.4816356


How disappointing for the cruise ship passengers. 7C is something
above freezing, right? It doesn't take a McCain style hero to
endure such cold weather. Buck up sissy boy.
--
x


----Android NewsGroup Reader----
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Buck up??
I love this weather..warms up to around 20 C during the day and nice cool nights for sleeping. The best of both worlds. It isn't any country for girliemen thou.

John H.[_5_] September 10th 18 03:49 PM

Not quite as advertised..
 
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 07:31:09 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Monday, 10 September 2018 10:46:46 UTC-3, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
Cruise ship from Boston supposed to head to Bermuda diverted to Halifax and other Maritime ports.
Good thing they're mostly hardy New Englanders rather than Nancy Boys from way down south. It was 7 degrees C when I got up yesterday morning.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...ence-1.4816356


How disappointing for the cruise ship passengers. 7C is something
above freezing, right? It doesn't take a McCain style hero to
endure such cold weather. Buck up sissy boy.
--
x


----Android NewsGroup Reader----
http://usenet.sinaapp.com/


Buck up??
I love this weather..warms up to around 20 C during the day and nice cool nights for sleeping. The best of both worlds. It isn't any country for girliemen thou.


Is it your opinion that one must be a real, macho kind of guy to put up with temps ranging from 7C
to 20C ? That's above average for our winters in northern Virginia.

Bill[_12_] September 10th 18 03:56 PM

Not quite as advertised..
 
True North wrote:
Cruise ship from Boston supposed to head to Bermuda diverted to Halifax
and other Maritime ports.
Good thing they're mostly hardy New Englanders rather than Nancy Boys
from way down south. It was 7 degrees C when I got up yesterday morning.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...ence-1.4816356


You pay for warm tropical weather and beaches, and you get sent to a cold,
crime ridden port? Sounds bad.


John H.[_5_] September 10th 18 03:59 PM

Not quite as advertised..
 
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 14:56:24 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

True North wrote:
Cruise ship from Boston supposed to head to Bermuda diverted to Halifax
and other Maritime ports.
Good thing they're mostly hardy New Englanders rather than Nancy Boys
from way down south. It was 7 degrees C when I got up yesterday morning.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...ence-1.4816356


You pay for warm tropical weather and beaches, and you get sent to a cold,
crime ridden port? Sounds bad.


Especially, as Don said, they're mostly New Englanders anyway.

True North[_2_] September 10th 18 04:06 PM

Not quite as advertised..
 
Bill

- show quoted text -

"You pay for warm tropical weather and beaches, and you get sent to a cold,Â*
crime ridden port? Â* Sounds bad."


Speaking about crime ridden ports...how are things in Frisco these days?


[email protected] September 10th 18 05:08 PM

Not quite as advertised..
 
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 06:09:12 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Cruise ship from Boston supposed to head to Bermuda diverted to Halifax and other Maritime ports.
Good thing they're mostly hardy New Englanders rather than Nancy Boys from way down south. It was 7 degrees C when I got up yesterday morning.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...ence-1.4816356


People from down south know better than to book a cruise at the peak
of hurricane season. You are very unlikely to go where you booked.

Bill[_12_] September 10th 18 06:48 PM

Not quite as advertised..
 
True North wrote:
Bill

- show quoted text -

"You pay for warm tropical weather and beaches, and you get sent to a cold,Â*
crime ridden port? Â* Sounds bad."


Speaking about crime ridden ports...how are things in Frisco these days?



Dirty, expensive, lots of homeless. Democrat controlled sanctuary city.


Its Me September 10th 18 07:21 PM

Not quite as advertised..
 
On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 1:48:59 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
Bill

- show quoted text -

"You pay for warm tropical weather and beaches, and you get sent to a cold,Â*
crime ridden port? Â* Sounds bad."


Speaking about crime ridden ports...how are things in Frisco these days?



Dirty, expensive, lots of homeless. Democrat controlled sanctuary city.


Heh, heh... that backfired.

John H.[_5_] September 10th 18 07:36 PM

Not quite as advertised..
 
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 08:06:25 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Bill

- show quoted text -

"You pay for warm tropical weather and beaches, and you get sent to a cold,*
crime ridden port? * Sounds bad."


Speaking about crime ridden ports...how are things in Frisco these days?


LA is full of problems also.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...201-story.html

"The problem has only gotten worse since Mayor Eric Garcetti took office in 2013 and a liberal
Democratic supermajority emerged in 2016 on the county Board of Supervisors."

This 'sanctuary city' crap doesn't seem to work very well.

Wayne.B September 10th 18 09:03 PM

Not quite as advertised..
 
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 06:09:12 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Cruise ship from Boston supposed to head to Bermuda diverted to Halifax and other Maritime ports.
Good thing they're mostly hardy New Englanders rather than Nancy Boys from way down south. It was 7 degrees C when I got up yesterday morning.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...ence-1.4816356


===

We were docked next to that boat yesterday. All of the passengers
seemed happy and well adjusted. They were headed for Sydney last
night as we were leaving for Boston. Sydney was a nice stop for us
two days ago, as was Halifax yesterday. The Maritime Museum was very
impressive. Had lunch at Murphy's out on the pier - not so
impressive.

justan September 10th 18 09:28 PM

Not quite as advertised..
 
Wayne.B Wrote in message:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 06:09:12 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Cruise ship from Boston supposed to head to Bermuda diverted to Halifax and other Maritime ports.
Good thing they're mostly hardy New Englanders rather than Nancy Boys from way down south. It was 7 degrees C when I got up yesterday morning.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...ence-1.4816356


===

We were docked next to that boat yesterday. All of the passengers
seemed happy and well adjusted. They were headed for Sydney last
night as we were leaving for Boston. Sydney was a nice stop for us
two days ago, as was Halifax yesterday. The Maritime Museum was very
impressive. Had lunch at Murphy's out on the pier - not so
impressive.


I'd be looking for a safe harbor to hole up in for a few days if I
were you.
--
x


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Wayne.B September 10th 18 09:52 PM

Not quite as advertised..
 
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 16:28:10 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Wayne.B Wrote in message:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 06:09:12 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Cruise ship from Boston supposed to head to Bermuda diverted to Halifax and other Maritime ports.
Good thing they're mostly hardy New Englanders rather than Nancy Boys from way down south. It was 7 degrees C when I got up yesterday morning.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...ence-1.4816356


===

We were docked next to that boat yesterday. All of the passengers
seemed happy and well adjusted. They were headed for Sydney last
night as we were leaving for Boston. Sydney was a nice stop for us
two days ago, as was Halifax yesterday. The Maritime Museum was very
impressive. Had lunch at Murphy's out on the pier - not so
impressive.


I'd be looking for a safe harbor to hole up in for a few days if I
were you.


===

Our boat is docked behind a hurricane barrier in Connecticut. No
worries there. The cruise ship we're on is docking in Boston tomorrow
morning.

[email protected] September 10th 18 09:53 PM

Not quite as advertised..
 
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 16:28:10 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Wayne.B Wrote in message:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 06:09:12 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Cruise ship from Boston supposed to head to Bermuda diverted to Halifax and other Maritime ports.
Good thing they're mostly hardy New Englanders rather than Nancy Boys from way down south. It was 7 degrees C when I got up yesterday morning.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...ence-1.4816356


===

We were docked next to that boat yesterday. All of the passengers
seemed happy and well adjusted. They were headed for Sydney last
night as we were leaving for Boston. Sydney was a nice stop for us
two days ago, as was Halifax yesterday. The Maritime Museum was very
impressive. Had lunch at Murphy's out on the pier - not so
impressive.


I'd be looking for a safe harbor to hole up in for a few days if I
were you.


I imagine Flo will just be a lot of rain by the time it gets out of
the Carolinas. If it smacks into the mountains that will take a lot
out of it. Worst case is an early turn north, skipping up the coast.
That does not seem to be what NHC is saying tho. They have it going
straight in, somewhere between Savanna and Norfolk.
If that leans toward Norfolk it will be bad for all of those Virginia
and Southern Maryland folks, particularly close to the water. They
already have a high tide over their docks before the storm is even
close, Several feet more surge and a lot of people will be wet.


Keyser Soze September 10th 18 10:02 PM

Not quite as advertised..
 
On 9/10/18 4:53 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 16:28:10 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Wayne.B Wrote in message:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 06:09:12 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Cruise ship from Boston supposed to head to Bermuda diverted to Halifax and other Maritime ports.
Good thing they're mostly hardy New Englanders rather than Nancy Boys from way down south. It was 7 degrees C when I got up yesterday morning.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...ence-1.4816356

===

We were docked next to that boat yesterday. All of the passengers
seemed happy and well adjusted. They were headed for Sydney last
night as we were leaving for Boston. Sydney was a nice stop for us
two days ago, as was Halifax yesterday. The Maritime Museum was very
impressive. Had lunch at Murphy's out on the pier - not so
impressive.


I'd be looking for a safe harbor to hole up in for a few days if I
were you.


I imagine Flo will just be a lot of rain by the time it gets out of
the Carolinas. If it smacks into the mountains that will take a lot
out of it. Worst case is an early turn north, skipping up the coast.
That does not seem to be what NHC is saying tho. They have it going
straight in, somewhere between Savanna and Norfolk.
If that leans toward Norfolk it will be bad for all of those Virginia
and Southern Maryland folks, particularly close to the water. They
already have a high tide over their docks before the storm is even
close, Several feet more surge and a lot of people will be wet.


It's been raining here so much that the first two blocks up the river in
Old Town, Alexandria, are already under water. That area floods easily
and frequently, but with more "deluge" on the way, it doesn't look good.
Our local propane delivery company topped up our 500-gallon tank today.

True North[_2_] September 10th 18 10:58 PM

Not quite as advertised..
 
Wayne.B

- hide quoted text -

On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 06:09:12 -0700 (PDT), True NorthÂ*
wrote:Â*

Cruise ship from Boston supposed to head to Bermuda diverted to Halifax and other Maritime ports.Â*
Good thing they're mostly hardy New Englanders rather than Nancy Boys from way down south. It was 7 degrees C when I got up yesterday morning.Â*
Â*
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...ce-1.4816356Â*


===Â*

"We were docked next to that boat yesterday. Â*All of the passengersÂ*
seemed happy and well adjusted. Â*They were headed for Sydney lastÂ*
night as we were leaving for Boston. Â*Sydney was a nice stop for usÂ*
two days ago, as was Halifax yesterday. Â*The Maritime Museum was veryÂ*
impressive. Â*Had lunch at Murphy's out on the pier - not soÂ*
impressive."


We also have a couple of military type museums on the peninsula. One inside Citadel Hill and one on the Naval Base. Entrance on Gottingen St.
A Museum of Natural History is also within walking distance of the waterfront. We're still waiting for an aquarium.
I'd never recommend eating at Murphy's on the Water unless you just wanted to sit out, drink cold beer and people watch.

Alex[_15_] September 11th 18 12:49 AM

Not quite as advertised..
 
True North wrote:
Cruise ship from Boston supposed to head to Bermuda diverted to Halifax and other Maritime ports.
Good thing they're mostly hardy New Englanders rather than Nancy Boys from way down south. It was 7 degrees C when I got up yesterday morning.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...ence-1.4816356


Good thing they didn't divert them to any of Canada's non-maritime ports!


Alex[_15_] September 11th 18 12:51 AM

Not quite as advertised..
 
True North wrote:
On Monday, 10 September 2018 10:46:46 UTC-3, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
Cruise ship from Boston supposed to head to Bermuda diverted to Halifax and other Maritime ports.
Good thing they're mostly hardy New Englanders rather than Nancy Boys from way down south. It was 7 degrees C when I got up yesterday morning.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...ence-1.4816356

How disappointing for the cruise ship passengers. 7C is something
above freezing, right? It doesn't take a McCain style hero to
endure such cold weather. Buck up sissy boy.
--
x


----Android NewsGroup Reader----
http://usenet.sinaapp.com/

Buck up??
I love this weather..warms up to around 20 C during the day and nice cool nights for sleeping. The best of both worlds. It isn't any country for girliemen thou.


7C is still shorts weather for me.

[email protected] September 11th 18 02:53 AM

Not quite as advertised..
 
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 17:02:35 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 9/10/18 4:53 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 16:28:10 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Wayne.B Wrote in message:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 06:09:12 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Cruise ship from Boston supposed to head to Bermuda diverted to Halifax and other Maritime ports.
Good thing they're mostly hardy New Englanders rather than Nancy Boys from way down south. It was 7 degrees C when I got up yesterday morning.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...ence-1.4816356

===

We were docked next to that boat yesterday. All of the passengers
seemed happy and well adjusted. They were headed for Sydney last
night as we were leaving for Boston. Sydney was a nice stop for us
two days ago, as was Halifax yesterday. The Maritime Museum was very
impressive. Had lunch at Murphy's out on the pier - not so
impressive.


I'd be looking for a safe harbor to hole up in for a few days if I
were you.


I imagine Flo will just be a lot of rain by the time it gets out of
the Carolinas. If it smacks into the mountains that will take a lot
out of it. Worst case is an early turn north, skipping up the coast.
That does not seem to be what NHC is saying tho. They have it going
straight in, somewhere between Savanna and Norfolk.
If that leans toward Norfolk it will be bad for all of those Virginia
and Southern Maryland folks, particularly close to the water. They
already have a high tide over their docks before the storm is even
close, Several feet more surge and a lot of people will be wet.


It's been raining here so much that the first two blocks up the river in
Old Town, Alexandria, are already under water. That area floods easily
and frequently, but with more "deluge" on the way, it doesn't look good.
Our local propane delivery company topped up our 500-gallon tank today.


That is probably really 400 gallons (they only fill to 80%). What is
your burn rate? I think my BIL said he was burning close to 3 gal per
hour with his Generac.

[email protected] September 11th 18 02:58 AM

Not quite as advertised..
 
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 19:51:08 -0400, Alex wrote:

True North wrote:
On Monday, 10 September 2018 10:46:46 UTC-3, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
Cruise ship from Boston supposed to head to Bermuda diverted to Halifax and other Maritime ports.
Good thing they're mostly hardy New Englanders rather than Nancy Boys from way down south. It was 7 degrees C when I got up yesterday morning.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...ence-1.4816356

How disappointing for the cruise ship passengers. 7C is something
above freezing, right? It doesn't take a McCain style hero to
endure such cold weather. Buck up sissy boy.
--
x


----Android NewsGroup Reader----
http://usenet.sinaapp.com/

Buck up??
I love this weather..warms up to around 20 C during the day and nice cool nights for sleeping. The best of both worlds. It isn't any country for girliemen thou.


7C is still shorts weather for me.


Yeah some of us southern boys are tough. It was more like -10C here.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Florida%20b...20Michigan.jpg

John H.[_5_] September 11th 18 09:59 AM

Not quite as advertised..
 
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 19:51:08 -0400, Alex wrote:

True North wrote:
On Monday, 10 September 2018 10:46:46 UTC-3, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
Cruise ship from Boston supposed to head to Bermuda diverted to Halifax and other Maritime ports.
Good thing they're mostly hardy New Englanders rather than Nancy Boys from way down south. It was 7 degrees C when I got up yesterday morning.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...ence-1.4816356

How disappointing for the cruise ship passengers. 7C is something
above freezing, right? It doesn't take a McCain style hero to
endure such cold weather. Buck up sissy boy.
--
x


----Android NewsGroup Reader----
http://usenet.sinaapp.com/

Buck up??
I love this weather..warms up to around 20 C during the day and nice cool nights for sleeping. The best of both worlds. It isn't any country for girliemen thou.


7C is still shorts weather for me.


Definitely shorts weather walking a golf course!

Mr. Luddite[_4_] September 11th 18 12:20 PM

Not quite as advertised..
 
On 9/10/2018 11:28 PM, wrote:
On 11 Sep 2018 02:51:17 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 17:02:35 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 9/10/18 4:53 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 16:28:10 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Wayne.B Wrote in message:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 06:09:12 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Cruise ship from Boston supposed to head to Bermuda diverted to
Halifax and other Maritime ports.
Good thing they're mostly hardy New Englanders rather than Nancy
Boys from way down south. It was 7 degrees C when I got up yesterday morning.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...ence-1.4816356

===

We were docked next to that boat yesterday. All of the passengers
seemed happy and well adjusted. They were headed for Sydney last
night as we were leaving for Boston. Sydney was a nice stop for us
two days ago, as was Halifax yesterday. The Maritime Museum was very
impressive. Had lunch at Murphy's out on the pier - not so
impressive.


I'd be looking for a safe harbor to hole up in for a few days if I
were you.

I imagine Flo will just be a lot of rain by the time it gets out of
the Carolinas. If it smacks into the mountains that will take a lot
out of it. Worst case is an early turn north, skipping up the coast.
That does not seem to be what NHC is saying tho. They have it going
straight in, somewhere between Savanna and Norfolk.
If that leans toward Norfolk it will be bad for all of those Virginia
and Southern Maryland folks, particularly close to the water. They
already have a high tide over their docks before the storm is even
close, Several feet more surge and a lot of people will be wet.


It's been raining here so much that the first two blocks up the river in
Old Town, Alexandria, are already under water. That area floods easily
and frequently, but with more "deluge" on the way, it doesn't look good.
Our local propane delivery company topped up our 500-gallon tank today.

That is probably really 400 gallons (they only fill to 80%). What is
your burn rate? I think my BIL said he was burning close to 3 gal per
hour with his Generac.


I'll have to look it up again, but I sort of recall 1.5 to 2.0 gph under
half load. We are careful what we run under Genny power in order to
conserve fuel...we run fridges, well pump when needed, a few lights and
outlets, one of the heat pumps as needed...stovetop is gas...enough to keep
us comfy. It is a 17 kw unit.


We run 2 well pumps 2 fridges, the pool and a mini splitAC plus our
general lighting load, pretty much normally. (all breakers on and just
a little light switch discipline)
That uses around .8 GPH propane and .5 GPH gasoline but I am not
running the central air, water heater or range.


Lighting in my house is no longer an issue. 100 percent LEDs. I could
have 20 running (which I'd never do) and they would draw less than 2
amps total.


True North[_2_] September 11th 18 12:37 PM

Not quite as advertised..
 

10
- hide quoted text -
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 19:51:08 -0400, Alex wrote:

True North wrote:
On Monday, 10 September 2018 10:46:46 UTC-3, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
Cruise ship from Boston supposed to head to Bermuda diverted to Halifax and other Maritime ports.
Good thing they're mostly hardy New Englanders rather than Nancy Boys from way down south. It was 7 degrees C when I got up yesterday morning.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...ence-1.4816356

How disappointing for the cruise ship passengers. 7C is something
above freezing, right? It doesn't take a McCain style hero to
endure such cold weather. Buck up sissy boy.
--
x


----Android NewsGroup Reader----
http://usenet.sinaapp.com/

Buck up??
I love this weather..warms up to around 20 C during the day and nice cool nights for sleeping. The best of both worlds. It isn't any country for girliemen thou.


7C is still shorts weather for me.


"Yeah some of us southern boys are tough. It was more like -10C here.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Florida%20boy%20in%20Michigan.jpg"



Thought you claimed to be from upstate New York.......or am I confusing you with Wayne?

[email protected] September 11th 18 05:16 PM

Not quite as advertised..
 
On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 07:20:18 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/10/2018 11:28 PM, wrote:
On 11 Sep 2018 02:51:17 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 17:02:35 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 9/10/18 4:53 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 16:28:10 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Wayne.B Wrote in message:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 06:09:12 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Cruise ship from Boston supposed to head to Bermuda diverted to
Halifax and other Maritime ports.
Good thing they're mostly hardy New Englanders rather than Nancy
Boys from way down south. It was 7 degrees C when I got up yesterday morning.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...ence-1.4816356

===

We were docked next to that boat yesterday. All of the passengers
seemed happy and well adjusted. They were headed for Sydney last
night as we were leaving for Boston. Sydney was a nice stop for us
two days ago, as was Halifax yesterday. The Maritime Museum was very
impressive. Had lunch at Murphy's out on the pier - not so
impressive.


I'd be looking for a safe harbor to hole up in for a few days if I
were you.

I imagine Flo will just be a lot of rain by the time it gets out of
the Carolinas. If it smacks into the mountains that will take a lot
out of it. Worst case is an early turn north, skipping up the coast.
That does not seem to be what NHC is saying tho. They have it going
straight in, somewhere between Savanna and Norfolk.
If that leans toward Norfolk it will be bad for all of those Virginia
and Southern Maryland folks, particularly close to the water. They
already have a high tide over their docks before the storm is even
close, Several feet more surge and a lot of people will be wet.


It's been raining here so much that the first two blocks up the river in
Old Town, Alexandria, are already under water. That area floods easily
and frequently, but with more "deluge" on the way, it doesn't look good.
Our local propane delivery company topped up our 500-gallon tank today.

That is probably really 400 gallons (they only fill to 80%). What is
your burn rate? I think my BIL said he was burning close to 3 gal per
hour with his Generac.


I'll have to look it up again, but I sort of recall 1.5 to 2.0 gph under
half load. We are careful what we run under Genny power in order to
conserve fuel...we run fridges, well pump when needed, a few lights and
outlets, one of the heat pumps as needed...stovetop is gas...enough to keep
us comfy. It is a 17 kw unit.


We run 2 well pumps 2 fridges, the pool and a mini splitAC plus our
general lighting load, pretty much normally. (all breakers on and just
a little light switch discipline)
That uses around .8 GPH propane and .5 GPH gasoline but I am not
running the central air, water heater or range.


Lighting in my house is no longer an issue. 100 percent LEDs. I could
have 20 running (which I'd never do) and they would draw less than 2
amps total.


I found out your general lighting load (everything hard wire
connected or plugged in to general lighting circuits) is really
minimal as long as you understand what a hair dryer is. The only
breaker I tripped was the water heater and I turned off my air
compressor. Everything else was just being aware of what you were
using. I did turn off/unplug things like my laser printer (actually
everything in the computer room) and the TV PCs but mostly because I
was not using it and the power was pretty dodgy.
I don't really have that much LED lighting here except for the garage
but we don't usually have that many lights on anyway. I like dimmed
lights for just walking around and LEDs don't dim that well. (no color
change). All of our walking around light is on motion sensors so if
you are not there, the light is off.
The only time I really needed to do load management was when I was
hitting locked rotor on several motors at once. Usually all I had to
do was turn off the pool pump and well pumps and bring them up
individually. That is right near the generator so it is easy to do. If
I really thought this power outage was a thing, I would put time
delays on my motor loads but we really have pretty stable power here,
even after storms. Irma was the first time in 35 years that power was
out more than a day.

[email protected] September 11th 18 05:23 PM

Not quite as advertised..
 
On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 04:37:52 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:


10
- hide quoted text -
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 19:51:08 -0400, Alex wrote:

True North wrote:
On Monday, 10 September 2018 10:46:46 UTC-3, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
Cruise ship from Boston supposed to head to Bermuda diverted to Halifax and other Maritime ports.
Good thing they're mostly hardy New Englanders rather than Nancy Boys from way down south. It was 7 degrees C when I got up yesterday morning.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...ence-1.4816356

How disappointing for the cruise ship passengers. 7C is something
above freezing, right? It doesn't take a McCain style hero to
endure such cold weather. Buck up sissy boy.
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Buck up??
I love this weather..warms up to around 20 C during the day and nice cool nights for sleeping. The best of both worlds. It isn't any country for girliemen thou.


7C is still shorts weather for me.


"Yeah some of us southern boys are tough. It was more like -10C here.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Florida%20boy%20in%20Michigan.jpg"



Thought you claimed to be from upstate New York.......or am I confusing you with Wayne?


Must be Wayne. I have spent a lot of time in New York (NYC, Hudson
Valley and Endicott/Binghampton area) but only on temporary
assignments.
I am from DC, Maryland and Florida.

True North[_2_] September 11th 18 06:12 PM

Not quite as advertised..
 

On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 04:37:52 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:


10
- hide quoted text -
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 19:51:08 -0400, Alex wrote:

True North wrote:
On Monday, 10 September 2018 10:46:46 UTC-3, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
Cruise ship from Boston supposed to head to Bermuda diverted to Halifax and other Maritime ports.
Good thing they're mostly hardy New Englanders rather than Nancy Boys from way down south. It was 7 degrees C when I got up yesterday morning.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...ence-1.4816356

How disappointing for the cruise ship passengers. 7C is something
above freezing, right? It doesn't take a McCain style hero to
endure such cold weather. Buck up sissy boy.
--
x


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Buck up??
I love this weather..warms up to around 20 C during the day and nice cool nights for sleeping. The best of both worlds. It isn't any country for girliemen thou.


7C is still shorts weather for me.


"Yeah some of us southern boys are tough. It was more like -10C here.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Florida%20boy%20in%20Michigan.jpg"



Thought you claimed to be from upstate New York.......or am I confusing you with Wayne?


"Must be Wayne. I have spent a lot of time in New York (NYC, Hudson
Valley and Endicott/Binghampton area) but only on temporary
assignments.
I am from DC, Maryland and Florida."


Hope you don't take offence when I refer to 'southern boys'
I'm talking about Justine, Ditzy Dan, Johnny and the guy with the Palm Sisters.

John H.[_5_] September 11th 18 07:39 PM

Not quite as advertised..
 
On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 10:12:16 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:


On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 04:37:52 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:


10
- hide quoted text -
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 19:51:08 -0400, Alex wrote:

True North wrote:
On Monday, 10 September 2018 10:46:46 UTC-3, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
Cruise ship from Boston supposed to head to Bermuda diverted to Halifax and other Maritime ports.
Good thing they're mostly hardy New Englanders rather than Nancy Boys from way down south. It was 7 degrees C when I got up yesterday morning.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...ence-1.4816356

How disappointing for the cruise ship passengers. 7C is something
above freezing, right? It doesn't take a McCain style hero to
endure such cold weather. Buck up sissy boy.
--
x


----Android NewsGroup Reader----
http://usenet.sinaapp.com/
Buck up??
I love this weather..warms up to around 20 C during the day and nice cool nights for sleeping. The best of both worlds. It isn't any country for girliemen thou.

7C is still shorts weather for me.


"Yeah some of us southern boys are tough. It was more like -10C here.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Florida%20boy%20in%20Michigan.jpg"



Thought you claimed to be from upstate New York.......or am I confusing you with Wayne?


"Must be Wayne. I have spent a lot of time in New York (NYC, Hudson
Valley and Endicott/Binghampton area) but only on temporary
assignments.
I am from DC, Maryland and Florida."


Hope you don't take offence when I refer to 'southern boys'
I'm talking about Justine, Ditzy Dan, Johnny and the guy with the Palm Sisters.


Harry lives further south than I do, Don.

Is living in a Southern state supposed to be bad?

I was born further north than Halifax. Grew up just a bit south of Halifax. I reckon some of us are
just as much 'northern boys' as you are.

justan[_3_] September 11th 18 07:46 PM

Not quite as advertised..
 
True North Wrote in message:

On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 04:37:52 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:


10
- hide quoted text -
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 19:51:08 -0400, Alex wrote:

True North wrote:
On Monday, 10 September 2018 10:46:46 UTC-3, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
Cruise ship from Boston supposed to head to Bermuda diverted to Halifax and other Maritime ports.
Good thing they're mostly hardy New Englanders rather than Nancy Boys from way down south. It was 7 degrees C when I got up yesterday morning.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...ence-1.4816356

How disappointing for the cruise ship passengers. 7C is something
above freezing, right? It doesn't take a McCain style hero to
endure such cold weather. Buck up sissy boy.
--
x


----Android NewsGroup Reader----
http://usenet.sinaapp.com/
Buck up??
I love this weather..warms up to around 20 C during the day and nice cool nights for sleeping. The best of both worlds. It isn't any country for girliemen thou.

7C is still shorts weather for me.


"Yeah some of us southern boys are tough. It was more like -10C here.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Florida%20boy%20in%20Michigan.jpg"



Thought you claimed to be from upstate New York.......or am I confusing you with Wayne?


"Must be Wayne. I have spent a lot of time in New York (NYC, Hudson
Valley and Endicott/Binghampton area) but only on temporary
assignments.
I am from DC, Maryland and Florida."


Hope you don't take offence when I refer to 'southern boys'
I'm talking about Justine, Ditzy Dan, Johnny and the guy with the Palm Sisters.


Offense.
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justan[_3_] September 11th 18 07:49 PM

Not quite as advertised..
 
John H. Wrote in message:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 10:12:16 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:


On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 04:37:52 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:


10
- hide quoted text -
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 19:51:08 -0400, Alex wrote:

True North wrote:
On Monday, 10 September 2018 10:46:46 UTC-3, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
Cruise ship from Boston supposed to head to Bermuda diverted to Halifax and other Maritime ports.
Good thing they're mostly hardy New Englanders rather than Nancy Boys from way down south. It was 7 degrees C when I got up yesterday morning.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...ence-1.4816356

How disappointing for the cruise ship passengers. 7C is something
above freezing, right? It doesn't take a McCain style hero to
endure such cold weather. Buck up sissy boy.
--
x


----Android NewsGroup Reader----
http://usenet.sinaapp.com/
Buck up??
I love this weather..warms up to around 20 C during the day and nice cool nights for sleeping. The best of both worlds. It isn't any country for girliemen thou.

7C is still shorts weather for me.

"Yeah some of us southern boys are tough. It was more like -10C here.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Florida%20boy%20in%20Michigan.jpg"



Thought you claimed to be from upstate New York.......or am I confusing you with Wayne?


"Must be Wayne. I have spent a lot of time in New York (NYC, Hudson
Valley and Endicott/Binghampton area) but only on temporary
assignments.
I am from DC, Maryland and Florida."


Hope you don't take offence when I refer to 'southern boys'
I'm talking about Justine, Ditzy Dan, Johnny and the guy with the Palm Sisters.


Harry lives further south than I do, Don.

Is living in a Southern state supposed to be bad?

I was born further north than Halifax. Grew up just a bit south of Halifax. I reckon some of us are
just as much 'northern boys' as you are.


Fat Harry lives below the Mason Dixon line in a redneck part of
Maryland. I guess you could call him southern boy. Emphasize
boy.
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Its Me September 11th 18 07:54 PM

Not quite as advertised..
 
On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 2:49:33 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
John H. Wrote in message:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 10:12:16 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:


On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 04:37:52 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:


10
- hide quoted text -
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 19:51:08 -0400, Alex wrote:

True North wrote:
On Monday, 10 September 2018 10:46:46 UTC-3, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
Cruise ship from Boston supposed to head to Bermuda diverted to Halifax and other Maritime ports.
Good thing they're mostly hardy New Englanders rather than Nancy Boys from way down south. It was 7 degrees C when I got up yesterday morning.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...ence-1.4816356

How disappointing for the cruise ship passengers. 7C is something
above freezing, right? It doesn't take a McCain style hero to
endure such cold weather. Buck up sissy boy.
--
x


----Android NewsGroup Reader----
http://usenet.sinaapp.com/
Buck up??
I love this weather..warms up to around 20 C during the day and nice cool nights for sleeping. The best of both worlds. It isn't any country for girliemen thou.

7C is still shorts weather for me.

"Yeah some of us southern boys are tough. It was more like -10C here.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Florida%20boy%20in%20Michigan.jpg"



Thought you claimed to be from upstate New York.......or am I confusing you with Wayne?

"Must be Wayne. I have spent a lot of time in New York (NYC, Hudson
Valley and Endicott/Binghampton area) but only on temporary
assignments.
I am from DC, Maryland and Florida."


Hope you don't take offence when I refer to 'southern boys'
I'm talking about Justine, Ditzy Dan, Johnny and the guy with the Palm Sisters.


Harry lives further south than I do, Don.

Is living in a Southern state supposed to be bad?

I was born further north than Halifax. Grew up just a bit south of Halifax. I reckon some of us are
just as much 'northern boys' as you are.


Fat Harry lives below the Mason Dixon line in a redneck part of
Maryland. I guess you could call him southern boy. Emphasize
boy.


Pretty sure he had him covered when donna was talking about his palm sisters. :)

True North[_2_] September 11th 18 07:59 PM

Not quite as advertised..
 
justan

John H. Wrote in message:Â*

- show quoted text -

"Fat Harry lives below the Mason Dixon line in a redneck part ofÂ*
Â*Maryland. I guess you could call him southern boy. EmphasizeÂ*
Â*boy."
--Â*


As far as I know, Harry is a New Englander who happens to live in a warmer climate.


Keyser Söze September 11th 18 08:01 PM

Not quite as advertised..
 
True North wrote:
justan

John H. Wrote in message:Â*

- show quoted text -

"Fat Harry lives below the Mason Dixon line in a redneck part ofÂ*
Â*Maryland. I guess you could call him southern boy. EmphasizeÂ*
Â*boy."
--Â*


As far as I know, Harry is a New Englander who happens to live in a warmer climate.



I’ve lived in the south, but I’ll always be a Yankee. :)

--
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Bill[_12_] September 11th 18 08:04 PM

Not quite as advertised..
 
wrote:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 07:20:18 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/10/2018 11:28 PM, wrote:
On 11 Sep 2018 02:51:17 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 17:02:35 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 9/10/18 4:53 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 16:28:10 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Wayne.B Wrote in message:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 06:09:12 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Cruise ship from Boston supposed to head to Bermuda diverted to
Halifax and other Maritime ports.
Good thing they're mostly hardy New Englanders rather than Nancy
Boys from way down south. It was 7 degrees C when I got up yesterday morning.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...ence-1.4816356

===

We were docked next to that boat yesterday. All of the passengers
seemed happy and well adjusted. They were headed for Sydney last
night as we were leaving for Boston. Sydney was a nice stop for us
two days ago, as was Halifax yesterday. The Maritime Museum was very
impressive. Had lunch at Murphy's out on the pier - not so
impressive.


I'd be looking for a safe harbor to hole up in for a few days if I
were you.

I imagine Flo will just be a lot of rain by the time it gets out of
the Carolinas. If it smacks into the mountains that will take a lot
out of it. Worst case is an early turn north, skipping up the coast.
That does not seem to be what NHC is saying tho. They have it going
straight in, somewhere between Savanna and Norfolk.
If that leans toward Norfolk it will be bad for all of those Virginia
and Southern Maryland folks, particularly close to the water. They
already have a high tide over their docks before the storm is even
close, Several feet more surge and a lot of people will be wet.


It's been raining here so much that the first two blocks up the river in
Old Town, Alexandria, are already under water. That area floods easily
and frequently, but with more "deluge" on the way, it doesn't look good.
Our local propane delivery company topped up our 500-gallon tank today.

That is probably really 400 gallons (they only fill to 80%). What is
your burn rate? I think my BIL said he was burning close to 3 gal per
hour with his Generac.


I'll have to look it up again, but I sort of recall 1.5 to 2.0 gph under
half load. We are careful what we run under Genny power in order to
conserve fuel...we run fridges, well pump when needed, a few lights and
outlets, one of the heat pumps as needed...stovetop is gas...enough to keep
us comfy. It is a 17 kw unit.

We run 2 well pumps 2 fridges, the pool and a mini splitAC plus our
general lighting load, pretty much normally. (all breakers on and just
a little light switch discipline)
That uses around .8 GPH propane and .5 GPH gasoline but I am not
running the central air, water heater or range.


Lighting in my house is no longer an issue. 100 percent LEDs. I could
have 20 running (which I'd never do) and they would draw less than 2
amps total.


I found out your general lighting load (everything hard wire
connected or plugged in to general lighting circuits) is really
minimal as long as you understand what a hair dryer is. The only
breaker I tripped was the water heater and I turned off my air
compressor. Everything else was just being aware of what you were
using. I did turn off/unplug things like my laser printer (actually
everything in the computer room) and the TV PCs but mostly because I
was not using it and the power was pretty dodgy.
I don't really have that much LED lighting here except for the garage
but we don't usually have that many lights on anyway. I like dimmed
lights for just walking around and LEDs don't dim that well. (no color
change). All of our walking around light is on motion sensors so if
you are not there, the light is off.
The only time I really needed to do load management was when I was
hitting locked rotor on several motors at once. Usually all I had to
do was turn off the pool pump and well pumps and bring them up
individually. That is right near the generator so it is easy to do. If
I really thought this power outage was a thing, I would put time
delays on my motor loads but we really have pretty stable power here,
even after storms. Irma was the first time in 35 years that power was
out more than a day.


Yup, bringing them all up at the same time is bad. Had an FE working for
us who had been an apprentice at IBM when the Great Northeast Power out
happened. He worked in Boston and they had to manually reset a lot of the
power sequencers at one of the big insurance company data centers. Some
were mechanical and tried to bring up most of the data center at the same
time. Would blow the breaker for the building at the power transformer.


justan[_3_] September 11th 18 08:09 PM

Not quite as advertised..
 
Keyser Söze Wrote in message:
True North wrote:
justan

John H. Wrote in message:

- show quoted text -

"Fat Harry lives below the Mason Dixon line in a redneck part of
Maryland. I guess you could call him southern boy. Emphasize
boy."
--


As far as I know, Harry is a New Englander who happens to live in a warmer climate.



I?ve lived in the south, but I?ll always be a Yankee. :)

--
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You should move back to New Haven.
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John H.[_5_] September 11th 18 08:25 PM

Not quite as advertised..
 
On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 11:59:37 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

justan

John H. Wrote in message:*

- show quoted text -

"Fat Harry lives below the Mason Dixon line in a redneck part of*
*Maryland. I guess you could call him southern boy. Emphasize*
*boy."
--*


As far as I know, Harry is a New Englander who happens to live in a warmer climate.


And is he one of your macho kind of guys?

http://oi64.tinypic.com/102w51s.jpg

Keyser Soze September 11th 18 08:39 PM

Not quite as advertised..
 
On 9/11/18 3:09 PM, justan wrote:
Keyser Söze Wrote in message:
True North wrote:
justan

John H. Wrote in message:

- show quoted text -

"Fat Harry lives below the Mason Dixon line in a redneck part of
Maryland. I guess you could call him southern boy. Emphasize
boy."
--


As far as I know, Harry is a New Englander who happens to live in a warmer climate.



I?ve lived in the south, but I?ll always be a Yankee. :)

--
Posted with my iPhone 8+.


You should move back to New Haven.


Why is that, ****-for-brains?


John H.[_5_] September 11th 18 08:41 PM

Not quite as advertised..
 
On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 15:39:20 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 9/11/18 3:09 PM, justan wrote:
Keyser Söze Wrote in message:
True North wrote:
justan

John H. Wrote in message:

- show quoted text -

"Fat Harry lives below the Mason Dixon line in a redneck part of
Maryland. I guess you could call him southern boy. Emphasize
boy."
--


As far as I know, Harry is a New Englander who happens to live in a warmer climate.



I?ve lived in the south, but I?ll always be a Yankee. :)

--
Posted with my iPhone 8+.


You should move back to New Haven.


Why is that, ****-for-brains?


Good enough reason right there.

Keyser Soze September 11th 18 08:43 PM

Not quite as advertised..
 
On 9/11/18 2:46 PM, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:

On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 04:37:52 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:


10
- hide quoted text -
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 19:51:08 -0400, Alex wrote:

True North wrote:
On Monday, 10 September 2018 10:46:46 UTC-3, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
Cruise ship from Boston supposed to head to Bermuda diverted to Halifax and other Maritime ports.
Good thing they're mostly hardy New Englanders rather than Nancy Boys from way down south. It was 7 degrees C when I got up yesterday morning.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...ence-1.4816356

How disappointing for the cruise ship passengers. 7C is something
above freezing, right? It doesn't take a McCain style hero to
endure such cold weather. Buck up sissy boy.
--
x


----Android NewsGroup Reader----
http://usenet.sinaapp.com/
Buck up??
I love this weather..warms up to around 20 C during the day and nice cool nights for sleeping. The best of both worlds. It isn't any country for girliemen thou.

7C is still shorts weather for me.

"Yeah some of us southern boys are tough. It was more like -10C here.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Florida%20boy%20in%20Michigan.jpg"



Thought you claimed to be from upstate New York.......or am I confusing you with Wayne?


"Must be Wayne. I have spent a lot of time in New York (NYC, Hudson
Valley and Endicott/Binghampton area) but only on temporary
assignments.
I am from DC, Maryland and Florida."


Hope you don't take offence when I refer to 'southern boys'
I'm talking about Justine, Ditzy Dan, Johnny and the guy with the Palm Sisters.


Offense.



"Offence" is the prevalent way of spelling that word in English-speaking
countries outside of the disUnited States, dummy.

Its Me September 11th 18 09:01 PM

Not quite as advertised..
 
On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 3:39:22 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/11/18 3:09 PM, justan wrote:
Keyser Söze Wrote in message:
True North wrote:
justan

John H. Wrote in message:

- show quoted text -

"Fat Harry lives below the Mason Dixon line in a redneck part of
Maryland. I guess you could call him southern boy. Emphasize
boy."
--


As far as I know, Harry is a New Englander who happens to live in a warmer climate.



I?ve lived in the south, but I?ll always be a Yankee. :)

--
Posted with my iPhone 8+.


You should move back to New Haven.


Why is that, ****-for-brains?


Your assholeishness fits in much better there than here in the South, or where you live, the almost South.


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