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Joe August 5th 03 10:39 PM

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Why don't you come and see? I'd love to meet you :).

Sorry Dummy, I like to keep a save distance from sociopaths. In your case,
Atlanta's not far enough.

I was just wondering how a self proclaimed genius as yourself could be so
stupid as to grow pot in his house and then tell the world on USENET.

Pretty stupid, Dummy.




basskisser August 6th 03 12:10 PM

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"Joe" wrote in message .. .
Why don't you come and see? I'd love to meet you :).


Sorry Dummy, I like to keep a save distance from sociopaths. In your case,
Atlanta's not far enough.

I was just wondering how a self proclaimed genius as yourself could be so
stupid as to grow pot in his house and then tell the world on USENET.

Pretty stupid, Dummy.


Joe, I'll be in the Tampa area, Zephyrhills, to be exact. Care to get
together for a beer, and then you can call me ignorant little school
girl names to my face?

basskisser August 6th 03 12:13 PM

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(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ...
On 5 Aug 2003 03:53:38 -0700,
(basskisser) wrote:

(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ...
On 4 Aug 2003 04:07:23 -0700,
(basskisser) wrote:

"Joe" wrote in message ...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message

Also, your
friends at work and a certified Chrysler mechanic friend of yours?

Or
were you just lying when you said you had friends? Probably.

Whatever. We DO have good laughs at your idiotic diatribes!

They're laughing AT you, not with you.

Really?


Yes, really.

From Saturn-

When and Why to Check Your Oil

Oil is the lifeblood of your engine, so it's very important that the proper
level and quality of oil be maintained in the engine at all times. Saturn
recommends that you check your oil level every time you stop for gas -- this
applies to both old and new engines because every engine consumes some
amount of oil even under normal conditions.

http://www.saturn.com/mysaturn/service/clinicsoil.jhtml


My car is using oil. Is this normal?

According to our Engineering Department, oil consumption of up to one quart
every 2,000 miles should be considered acceptable. If you think your Saturn
is consuming oil beyond this parameter, we encourage you to have your
servicing Saturn facility conduct an oil consumption test.

http://tinyurl.com/iqwm

Oh you effing IDIOT!!!! You CAN'T possibly be that dense, can you?
CONSUME, idiot....CONSUME!!! WHERE does it say it was BURNED???

Other than leaking oil, which is not normal, you haven't given any other
way for an engine to consume oil if it's not burned. We already know
that oil lost via the one example you tried, the exhaust valve stem
seal, IS burned. Care to try another?


Sure, vaporization. Now before you go off half cocked as usual, you
need to investigate.


Oil that's vaporized ends up being burned when it's sucked back into the
intake via the PCV valve or breather. It's been decades since
crankcases were open to the atmosphere to let unburned oil vapor escape.
So as usual, you're wrong yet again.


Oh, really? So, you are saying that 100% of oil vapor is burned
through the intake? None escapes? None at all? That is just stupid.

basskisser August 6th 03 12:15 PM

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"Joe" wrote in message .. .
Most normal people realize that consume = burn in an internal combustion
engine.
The oil in a engine is either consumed or it leaks out, nothing else.

Tell me DimDummy, are you still growing pot in the house?


Why don't you come and see? I'd love to meet you :).


Pothead.


consume does not in no way equal burn. That is pure stupidity. Ever
hear of foaming and vaporization? Nah, didn't think so.


And where does that oil go jackass?
I'll tell you. It is sucked into the intake through the pcv valve and burned
in the combustion chamber.

What a moron.



100% of it? Is that REALLY what you are saying, Joe? Again, I'll be in
the Tampa area, when can we get together? I'd like to give you a
chance to call me pathetic little names to my face.
I'll be in the Zephyrhills area, and will have time. Let me know,
okay?

basskisser August 6th 03 12:16 PM

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(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ...
On 4 Aug 2003 04:13:13 -0700,
(basskisser) wrote:

"Joe" wrote in message . ..
Perhaps we could take a tour of the dojo where I train?

Ya ever see the Seinfeld where Kramer was taking karate?

Care to give it a try?

No need to.

Its obvious through your open aggression, and your threats of using your
learned martial arts skills, that you are indeed not a true student, nor
worthy of the art.


Oh, really? Now are you trying to say I'm not a true student, trained
in Kempo Karate?


Oh, I believe you've been taught Karate. But you've apparently learned
it as well as you've learned that all RIC engines burn some oil when
running.

Steve


Uh, want to find out? I'm sure, in your mind, just like anything else,
you think you know more about the subject than anybody....try me!

Joe August 6th 03 02:42 PM

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Why don't you come and see? I'd love to meet you :).

Sorry Dummy, I like to keep a save distance from sociopaths. In your

case,
Atlanta's not far enough.

I was just wondering how a self proclaimed genius as yourself could be

so
stupid as to grow pot in his house and then tell the world on USENET.

Pretty stupid, Dummy.


Joe, I'll be in the Tampa area, Zephyrhills, to be exact. Care to get
together for a beer, and then you can call me ignorant little school
girl names to my face?


Does your "connection" live in Zephyrhills?



Joe August 6th 03 02:57 PM

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"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Joe" wrote in message

.. .
Most normal people realize that consume = burn in an internal

combustion
engine.
The oil in a engine is either consumed or it leaks out, nothing

else.

Tell me DimDummy, are you still growing pot in the house?

Why don't you come and see? I'd love to meet you :).


Pothead.


consume does not in no way equal burn. That is pure stupidity. Ever
hear of foaming and vaporization? Nah, didn't think so.


And where does that oil go jackass?
I'll tell you. It is sucked into the intake through the pcv valve and

burned
in the combustion chamber.

What a moron.



100% of it? Is that REALLY what you are saying, Joe?


Since your the P.E., why don't you tell us what the percentage is, Dummy?
Its amazing how you cling to the absurd to dispute the truth.

You are a sick man DimDummy.

Again, I'll be in the Tampa area, when can we get together? I'd like to

give you a
chance to call me pathetic little names to my face.
I'll be in the Zephyrhills area, and will have time. Let me know,
okay?


Again, I like to keep a save distance from sociopaths.



basskisser August 6th 03 08:33 PM

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"Joe" wrote in message . ..
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Joe" wrote in message

.. .
Most normal people realize that consume = burn in an internal

combustion
engine.
The oil in a engine is either consumed or it leaks out, nothing

else.

Tell me DimDummy, are you still growing pot in the house?

Why don't you come and see? I'd love to meet you :).

Pothead.


consume does not in no way equal burn. That is pure stupidity. Ever
hear of foaming and vaporization? Nah, didn't think so.

And where does that oil go jackass?
I'll tell you. It is sucked into the intake through the pcv valve and

burned
in the combustion chamber.

What a moron.



100% of it? Is that REALLY what you are saying, Joe?


Since your the P.E., why don't you tell us what the percentage is, Dummy?
Its amazing how you cling to the absurd to dispute the truth.

You are a sick man DimDummy.

Again, I'll be in the Tampa area, when can we get together? I'd like to

give you a
chance to call me pathetic little names to my face.
I'll be in the Zephyrhills area, and will have time. Let me know,
okay?


Again, I like to keep a save distance from sociopaths.


Uh, YOU would be the sociopath, JoeTechnician. You are the one who
hides behind a friggin' newsgroup! You don't have balls enough to do
you name calling to someone's face? Is that what you're saying,
JoeTechnician? Been inhaling too many fumes from line pulling
lubricant?

basskisser August 6th 03 08:34 PM

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"Joe" wrote in message . ..
Why don't you come and see? I'd love to meet you :).

Sorry Dummy, I like to keep a save distance from sociopaths. In your

case,
Atlanta's not far enough.

I was just wondering how a self proclaimed genius as yourself could be

so
stupid as to grow pot in his house and then tell the world on USENET.

Pretty stupid, Dummy.


Joe, I'll be in the Tampa area, Zephyrhills, to be exact. Care to get
together for a beer, and then you can call me ignorant little school
girl names to my face?


Does your "connection" live in Zephyrhills?


What "connection" would that be, JoeTechnician? Where did you get the
information that I have a "connection", JoeTechnician?

Steven Shelikoff August 6th 03 11:27 PM

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On 6 Aug 2003 04:16:50 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ...
On 4 Aug 2003 04:13:13 -0700,
(basskisser) wrote:

"Joe" wrote in message . ..
Perhaps we could take a tour of the dojo where I train?

Ya ever see the Seinfeld where Kramer was taking karate?

Care to give it a try?

No need to.

Its obvious through your open aggression, and your threats of using your
learned martial arts skills, that you are indeed not a true student, nor
worthy of the art.

Oh, really? Now are you trying to say I'm not a true student, trained
in Kempo Karate?


Oh, I believe you've been taught Karate. But you've apparently learned
it as well as you've learned that all RIC engines burn some oil when
running.


Uh, want to find out? I'm sure, in your mind, just like anything else,
you think you know more about the subject than anybody....try me!


There you go again.

Steve

Steven Shelikoff August 6th 03 11:30 PM

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On 6 Aug 2003 04:13:47 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

Oh, really? So, you are saying that 100% of oil vapor is burned
through the intake? None escapes? None at all? That is just stupid.


Nope. I'm saying that at least a single molecule of crankcase oil vapor
is burned through the intake via the PCV valve or breather. That single
molecule is enough to prove you wrong. For you to say that NO oil is
burned, none at all, is just stupid.

Steve

Bill Cole August 7th 03 01:19 AM

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I think I understand why Basskisser is an unemployed PE. I hope selling
dope is enough to allow him to take care of his family and still pay for
internet connection. He is one of the funniest guys on here.

"Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message
...
On 6 Aug 2003 04:13:47 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

Oh, really? So, you are saying that 100% of oil vapor is burned
through the intake? None escapes? None at all? That is just stupid.


Nope. I'm saying that at least a single molecule of crankcase oil vapor
is burned through the intake via the PCV valve or breather. That single
molecule is enough to prove you wrong. For you to say that NO oil is
burned, none at all, is just stupid.

Steve




basskisser August 7th 03 12:16 PM

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"Bill Cole" wrote in message news:xWgYa.55761$Oz4.14939@rwcrnsc54...
I think I understand why Basskisser is an unemployed PE. I hope selling
dope is enough to allow him to take care of his family and still pay for
internet connection. He is one of the funniest guys on here.


I'm funny? At least I know the difference, and can comprehend that
difference between "self employed" and unemployed. I ask, are you
really that dumb, or just trying to ACT that dumb?

basskisser August 7th 03 12:18 PM

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(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message
Uh, want to find out? I'm sure, in your mind, just like anything else,
you think you know more about the subject than anybody....try me!


There you go again.

Steve


No, Steve, there YOU go again. How would you have ANY idea what I know
about Karate? Please provide any evidence that you know anything about
ANY of my martial arts training.

Bill Cole August 7th 03 01:41 PM

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I understand that among the unemployed professionals it is sounds much
better to say you are a "consultant" or "self employed" than to say I was so
incompetent, argumentative, self absorbed and lazy that they fired my ass.

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Bill Cole" wrote in message

news:xWgYa.55761$Oz4.14939@rwcrnsc54...
I think I understand why Basskisser is an unemployed PE. I hope selling
dope is enough to allow him to take care of his family and still pay for
internet connection. He is one of the funniest guys on here.


I'm funny? At least I know the difference, and can comprehend that
difference between "self employed" and unemployed. I ask, are you
really that dumb, or just trying to ACT that dumb?




Steven Shelikoff August 7th 03 11:35 PM

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On 7 Aug 2003 04:18:10 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message
Uh, want to find out? I'm sure, in your mind, just like anything else,
you think you know more about the subject than anybody....try me!


There you go again.


No, Steve, there YOU go again. How would you have ANY idea what I know
about Karate? Please provide any evidence that you know anything about
ANY of my martial arts training.


When I said there you go again, I meant bragging and boasting about
something which is obvious from the way you post that you are completely
deficient in.

Now, you're at it even again, bragging about your abilities in Karate
when all the evidence points to the fact that you don't know squate'
about it, or if you do know the principles, you don't how to apply them.
Karate teaches more than just how to kick. It teaches self-discipline,
calmness, concentration, etiquette and many other things which you are
sorely lacking. People who have truly learned Karate don't come on the
internet threatening to snap other people's pencil necks because they
are frustrated that they've been proven an idiot, which you have done
several times.

Steve

basskisser August 8th 03 12:10 PM

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(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ...
On 7 Aug 2003 04:18:10 -0700,
(basskisser) wrote:

(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message
Uh, want to find out? I'm sure, in your mind, just like anything else,
you think you know more about the subject than anybody....try me!

There you go again.


No, Steve, there YOU go again. How would you have ANY idea what I know
about Karate? Please provide any evidence that you know anything about
ANY of my martial arts training.


When I said there you go again, I meant bragging and boasting about
something which is obvious from the way you post that you are completely
deficient in.

Now, you're at it even again, bragging about your abilities in Karate
when all the evidence points to the fact that you don't know squate'
about it, or if you do know the principles, you don't how to apply them.
Karate teaches more than just how to kick. It teaches self-discipline,
calmness, concentration, etiquette and many other things which you are
sorely lacking. People who have truly learned Karate don't come on the
internet threatening to snap other people's pencil necks because they
are frustrated that they've been proven an idiot, which you have done
several times.

Steve


Karate also teaches not to be bullied by pencil necks such as
yourself. It goes way back in evolution, and in Karate is called
Parnong. It means, simply, to not appear weak, or the prey will be
there in droves to overtake you. Now, would you like to REALLY see who
knows more about Karate discipline? Calmness, by the way, is NOT a
factor. Speed, Power, and Intensity IS. Etiquette is too weak of a
word, it is more like tradition.

In all, you are amazingingly childish. Here you are, actually trying
to act like you KNOW Karate, just because I mentioned it! Let's
compa
How much training in Karate have you had?
Your belt rank?
Years of training?
Years of study (reading, etc.)
Which Karate system are you an expert in?

If you WERE trained in Karate, one of the first things you would NOT
do, is act like you are an expert on any subject that somebody
mentions.

basskisser August 8th 03 12:11 PM

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"Bill Cole" wrote in message . net...
I understand that among the unemployed professionals it is sounds much
better to say you are a "consultant" or "self employed" than to say I was so
incompetent, argumentative, self absorbed and lazy that they fired my ass.

Again, are you just acting stupid? Please provide ANY evidence that
the above is true. Will you quit your ignorant drivel if I prove
otherwise?

Steven Shelikoff August 8th 03 12:59 PM

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On 8 Aug 2003 04:10:19 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ...
On 7 Aug 2003 04:18:10 -0700,
(basskisser) wrote:

(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message
Uh, want to find out? I'm sure, in your mind, just like anything else,
you think you know more about the subject than anybody....try me!

There you go again.

No, Steve, there YOU go again. How would you have ANY idea what I know
about Karate? Please provide any evidence that you know anything about
ANY of my martial arts training.


When I said there you go again, I meant bragging and boasting about
something which is obvious from the way you post that you are completely
deficient in.

Now, you're at it even again, bragging about your abilities in Karate
when all the evidence points to the fact that you don't know squate'
about it, or if you do know the principles, you don't how to apply them.
Karate teaches more than just how to kick. It teaches self-discipline,
calmness, concentration, etiquette and many other things which you are
sorely lacking. People who have truly learned Karate don't come on the
internet threatening to snap other people's pencil necks because they
are frustrated that they've been proven an idiot, which you have done
several times.


Karate also teaches not to be bullied by pencil necks such as
yourself. It goes way back in evolution, and in Karate is called


Wrong. Karate does not teach threatening people who have not threatened
you first in any way, as you have done.

Parnong. It means, simply, to not appear weak, or the prey will be
there in droves to overtake you. Now, would you like to REALLY see who
knows more about Karate discipline? Calmness, by the way, is NOT a


Wrong. Calmness is a factor.

factor. Speed, Power, and Intensity IS. Etiquette is too weak of a
word, it is more like tradition.


Wrong. Karate is full of etiquette, including respecting your opponent.

In all, you are amazingingly childish. Here you are, actually trying
to act like you KNOW Karate, just because I mentioned it! Let's
compa
How much training in Karate have you had?
Your belt rank?
Years of training?
Years of study (reading, etc.)
Which Karate system are you an expert in?


If you knew anything about Karate, you would know it teaches you not to
brag about things like belt rank and years of training.

If you WERE trained in Karate, one of the first things you would NOT
do, is act like you are an expert on any subject that somebody
mentions.


Now we KNOW for sure you are obviously NOT trained in Karate, as you
have boasted, by your own standards. Because you try to act like an
expert on any subject that somebody mentions even though it's painfully
obvious you are not.

Steve

Bill Cole August 8th 03 03:14 PM

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I don't think basskisser listens well enough to learn anything, I always
heard Patience, self discipline and a positive attitude was a prime
directive in most dojos. From the outbursts exhibited by Basskisser, it
appears he is lacking in both of those characteristics.

Karate (Japanese, “empty hand”), martial art of unarmed self-defense in
which directed or focused blows of the hands and feet, accompanied by
special breathing and shouts, are dealt from poised positions. More than a
method of combat, karate emphasizes self-discipline, positive attitude, and
high moral purpose.
"Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message
...
On 8 Aug 2003 04:10:19 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message

...
On 7 Aug 2003 04:18:10 -0700,
(basskisser) wrote:

(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message
Uh, want to find out? I'm sure, in your mind, just like anything

else,
you think you know more about the subject than anybody....try me!

There you go again.

No, Steve, there YOU go again. How would you have ANY idea what I know
about Karate? Please provide any evidence that you know anything about
ANY of my martial arts training.

When I said there you go again, I meant bragging and boasting about
something which is obvious from the way you post that you are

completely
deficient in.

Now, you're at it even again, bragging about your abilities in Karate
when all the evidence points to the fact that you don't know squate'
about it, or if you do know the principles, you don't how to apply

them.
Karate teaches more than just how to kick. It teaches self-discipline,
calmness, concentration, etiquette and many other things which you are
sorely lacking. People who have truly learned Karate don't come on the
internet threatening to snap other people's pencil necks because they
are frustrated that they've been proven an idiot, which you have done
several times.


Karate also teaches not to be bullied by pencil necks such as
yourself. It goes way back in evolution, and in Karate is called


Wrong. Karate does not teach threatening people who have not threatened
you first in any way, as you have done.

Parnong. It means, simply, to not appear weak, or the prey will be
there in droves to overtake you. Now, would you like to REALLY see who
knows more about Karate discipline? Calmness, by the way, is NOT a


Wrong. Calmness is a factor.

factor. Speed, Power, and Intensity IS. Etiquette is too weak of a
word, it is more like tradition.


Wrong. Karate is full of etiquette, including respecting your opponent.

In all, you are amazingingly childish. Here you are, actually trying
to act like you KNOW Karate, just because I mentioned it! Let's
compa
How much training in Karate have you had?
Your belt rank?
Years of training?
Years of study (reading, etc.)
Which Karate system are you an expert in?


If you knew anything about Karate, you would know it teaches you not to
brag about things like belt rank and years of training.

If you WERE trained in Karate, one of the first things you would NOT
do, is act like you are an expert on any subject that somebody
mentions.


Now we KNOW for sure you are obviously NOT trained in Karate, as you
have boasted, by your own standards. Because you try to act like an
expert on any subject that somebody mentions even though it's painfully
obvious you are not.

Steve




basskisser August 8th 03 06:25 PM

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(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message
Karate also teaches not to be bullied by pencil necks such as
yourself. It goes way back in evolution, and in Karate is called


Wrong. Karate does not teach threatening people who have not threatened
you first in any way, as you have done.

Parnong. It means, simply, to not appear weak, or the prey will be
there in droves to overtake you. Now, would you like to REALLY see who
knows more about Karate discipline? Calmness, by the way, is NOT a


Wrong. Calmness is a factor.


Wrong? Parnong is WRONG??

Please provide references to your above claims. You don't have a clue
what you are talking about. What belt level do you hold? Where have
you trained? What is your schools lineage?

factor. Speed, Power, and Intensity IS. Etiquette is too weak of a
word, it is more like tradition.


Wrong. Karate is full of etiquette, including respecting your opponent.


Pure drivel. Karate is full of TRADITION, as I've stated. Karate is a
self defense martial arts. Do you think that, in a DEFENSE posture,
that someone trained in Karate would succumb to "etiquette"? NO! You
do anything and everything to first, avoid the situation, second, make
it go away. NOTHING is out of the question, including breaking bones,
kicks to the groin, finger strike to the eyes, web hand to the throat,
elbow to the neck, NOTHING.

In all, you are amazingingly childish. Here you are, actually trying
to act like you KNOW Karate, just because I mentioned it! Let's
compa
How much training in Karate have you had?
Your belt rank?
Years of training?
Years of study (reading, etc.)
Which Karate system are you an expert in?


If you knew anything about Karate, you would know it teaches you not to
brag about things like belt rank and years of training.


If you aren't supposed to "brag" about your belt rank, why do you
visibly wear the belt of your ranking?

I'm not asking you to brag. I'm asking you how much training you have?
Belt rank?
The lineage of your school. That wouldn't be bragging. All schools
state their lineage.
Which school do you train at? That wouldn't be bragging, to tell whats
school you train at.

If you WERE trained in Karate, one of the first things you would NOT
do, is act like you are an expert on any subject that somebody
mentions.


Now we KNOW for sure you are obviously NOT trained in Karate, as you
have boasted, by your own standards. Because you try to act like an
expert on any subject that somebody mentions even though it's painfully
obvious you are not.

Steve


Now, let's compare our Karate training, okay? I'm not bragging, I'm
simply telling you that you've not a CLUE what you are talking about.
Kenpo (fist law)

basskisser August 8th 03 06:29 PM

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"Bill Cole" wrote in message news:4fOYa.64271$cF.21405@rwcrnsc53...
I don't think basskisser listens well enough to learn anything, I always
heard Patience, self discipline and a positive attitude was a prime
directive in most dojos. From the outbursts exhibited by Basskisser, it
appears he is lacking in both of those characteristics.

Karate (Japanese, ?empty hand?), martial art of unarmed self-defense in
which directed or focused blows of the hands and feet, accompanied by
special breathing and shouts, are dealt from poised positions. More than a
method of combat, karate emphasizes self-discipline, positive attitude, and
high moral purpose.


Karate is not always unarmed. It is, however self-defense. You see,
you and Shelikoff are getting Karate mixed up with sport martial arts,
like Kung Fu. In a strictly self defense posture, you do ANYTHING you
have to do to remedy the situation.

Okay, so.....you think you know about Karate?
Where did you train?
What is your schools lineage?
belt rank?
How long have you trained in Karate?

By the way, I train in KENPO Karate. Kenpo translates to FIST LAW.

basskisser August 8th 03 08:42 PM

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"Bill Cole" wrote in message news:4fOYa.64271$cF.21405@rwcrnsc53...
I don't think basskisser listens well enough to learn anything, I always
heard Patience, self discipline and a positive attitude was a prime
directive in most dojos. From the outbursts exhibited by Basskisser, it
appears he is lacking in both of those characteristics.

Karate (Japanese, ?empty hand?), martial art of unarmed self-defense in
which directed or focused blows of the hands and feet, accompanied by
special breathing and shouts, are dealt from poised positions. More than a
method of combat, karate emphasizes self-discipline, positive attitude, and
high moral purpose.



Well, Bill, because you know so much about Kenpo Karate, I would guess
you, or your Siamese twin, Shelikoff, who is also an expert (he
thinks) MUST know who Ed K. Parker is, right? His quote:

"I come to you with Karate (Empty Hands). I have no weapons. But,
shoudl I be forced to defend myself, my principles, or my honor,
should it be a matter of life or death, right or wrong, then here are
my weapons, Karate (Empty Hands)"

So, you see, twins, there is defense against PRINCIPLES or HONOR. But,
as you've both lied like idiots, trying to get others to think you
know about Karate, you wouldn't understand principle or honor.

Joe August 8th 03 09:28 PM

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Well, Bill, because you know so much about Kenpo Karate, I would guess
you, or your Siamese twin, Shelikoff, who is also an expert (he
thinks) MUST know who Ed K. Parker is, right? His quote:

"I come to you with Karate (Empty Hands). I have no weapons. But,
shoudl I be forced to defend myself, my principles, or my honor,
should it be a matter of life or death, right or wrong, then here are
my weapons, Karate (Empty Hands)"


So DimDummy, what does Mr. Parker have to say about growing wacky tabacky in
your home?




Bill Cole August 8th 03 11:07 PM

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LOL, I hate to admit this, but you are so much fun to tease. I feel like a
sadistic kid poking a crazy animal locked inside a cage.

So are you saying that anyone who disagrees with your principles or your
honor, deserves to have his neck broken like a twig?


"basskisser" wrote in message
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"Bill Cole" wrote in message

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I don't think basskisser listens well enough to learn anything, I always
heard Patience, self discipline and a positive attitude was a prime
directive in most dojos. From the outbursts exhibited by Basskisser, it
appears he is lacking in both of those characteristics.

Karate (Japanese, ?empty hand?), martial art of unarmed self-defense in
which directed or focused blows of the hands and feet, accompanied by
special breathing and shouts, are dealt from poised positions. More than

a
method of combat, karate emphasizes self-discipline, positive attitude,

and
high moral purpose.



Well, Bill, because you know so much about Kenpo Karate, I would guess
you, or your Siamese twin, Shelikoff, who is also an expert (he
thinks) MUST know who Ed K. Parker is, right? His quote:

"I come to you with Karate (Empty Hands). I have no weapons. But,
shoudl I be forced to defend myself, my principles, or my honor,
should it be a matter of life or death, right or wrong, then here are
my weapons, Karate (Empty Hands)"

So, you see, twins, there is defense against PRINCIPLES or HONOR. But,
as you've both lied like idiots, trying to get others to think you
know about Karate, you wouldn't understand principle or honor.




Steven Shelikoff August 9th 03 04:07 PM

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On 8 Aug 2003 10:25:36 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message
Karate also teaches not to be bullied by pencil necks such as
yourself. It goes way back in evolution, and in Karate is called


Wrong. Karate does not teach threatening people who have not threatened
you first in any way, as you have done.

Parnong. It means, simply, to not appear weak, or the prey will be
there in droves to overtake you. Now, would you like to REALLY see who
knows more about Karate discipline? Calmness, by the way, is NOT a


Wrong. Calmness is a factor.


Wrong? Parnong is WRONG??


Can't you read? I said" Wrong. Calmness is a factor." Not "Wrong,
Parning is WRONG." Sheesh, you obviously need the help of some little
girl to show you how to read. Or is this just another attempt at a
strawman for you to argue against since you have no defense against my
point.

Please provide references to your above claims. You don't have a clue
what you are talking about. What belt level do you hold? Where have
you trained? What is your schools lineage?


You obviously have none, or have not learned your lessons very well.
Actually, from the way you act here, the latter is probably the case.
You can't learn anything since you think you know it all already.

factor. Speed, Power, and Intensity IS. Etiquette is too weak of a
word, it is more like tradition.


Wrong. Karate is full of etiquette, including respecting your opponent.


Pure drivel. Karate is full of TRADITION, as I've stated. Karate is a


There you go again with another strawman. I never said Karate isn't
full of tradition. I said you were wrong when you claim Karate doesn't
teach etiquette or that etiquette is too weak a word. Just because you
can't argue effectively against the points I'm making doesn't mean you
have to make up your own to argue against. But then, arguing with
yourself is probably the only way you've ever won an argument. Or have
you ever won one against yourself?

Which brings me back to the topic at hand. Instead of answering whether
you actually believe NONE of the oil vapor that goes through the PCV
valve or breather back into the intake is burned, not even a single
molecule, you go off on this karate tangent.

Sooooo, just to get back to the subject at hand, please tell us if you
think NONE of the oil vapor that goes out of the crankcase and back into
the intake via the PCV valve gets burned.

Steve

basskisser August 11th 03 01:04 PM

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"Joe" wrote in message ...
Well, Bill, because you know so much about Kenpo Karate, I would guess
you, or your Siamese twin, Shelikoff, who is also an expert (he
thinks) MUST know who Ed K. Parker is, right? His quote:

"I come to you with Karate (Empty Hands). I have no weapons. But,
shoudl I be forced to defend myself, my principles, or my honor,
should it be a matter of life or death, right or wrong, then here are
my weapons, Karate (Empty Hands)"


So DimDummy, what does Mr. Parker have to say about growing wacky tabacky in
your home?


JoeTechnician, he says that it is better than trying to convince
others that you are an engineer bwaaaahaaa!!!!!!
Actually, he says NOTHING about it, why do you ask?

basskisser August 11th 03 01:09 PM

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(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message
There you go again with another strawman. I never said Karate isn't
full of tradition. I said you were wrong when you claim Karate doesn't
teach etiquette or that etiquette is too weak a word. Just because you
can't argue effectively against the points I'm making doesn't mean you
have to make up your own to argue against. But then, arguing with
yourself is probably the only way you've ever won an argument. Or have
you ever won one against yourself?

Which brings me back to the topic at hand. Instead of answering whether
you actually believe NONE of the oil vapor that goes through the PCV
valve or breather back into the intake is burned, not even a single
molecule, you go off on this karate tangent.

Sooooo, just to get back to the subject at hand, please tell us if you
think NONE of the oil vapor that goes out of the crankcase and back into
the intake via the PCV valve gets burned.

Steve


Whoa, there. One thing at a time. Please finish answering my reply.

Where did you train?
What belt level are you?
What's the lineage of your school?

I also asked, seeing how Karate is a DEFENSIVE martial art, do you
honestly think that, when confronted, and you are in a defensive
posture, that you should succumb to tradition?
It's funny, I ask these questions, then you snip, just like skipper,
to make it sound like you want, and then you can also answer only the
points that won't make you look like you don't know what you are
talking about. Now, again, where do you get your knowledge of Kenpo
Karate from?

basskisser August 11th 03 01:16 PM

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(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message

Wrong. Calmness is a factor.

factor. Speed, Power, and Intensity IS. Etiquette is too weak of a
word, it is more like tradition.


Wrong. Karate is full of etiquette, including respecting your opponent.



Steve, please provide reference to where you've found this
information. Contrary to your personal belief, you've come up short.
The first thing they teach in Karate, is SPEED, POWER, INTENSITY.
Again, Karate is a defensive martial art. You don't act CALM when you
are being confronted. You are in a defensive posture. You have full
control of your available weapons. You are INTENSELY ready to act. If
and when you have to, you do so with speed, power, and intensity.

Bill Cole August 11th 03 01:34 PM

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Are you saying you have not made physical threats to any of the people
posting in rec.boats?

"basskisser" wrote in message
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"Bill Cole" wrote in message

. net...
LOL, I hate to admit this, but you are so much fun to tease. I feel

like a
sadistic kid poking a crazy animal locked inside a cage.

So are you saying that anyone who disagrees with your principles or your
honor, deserves to have his neck broken like a twig?


Stupid, stupid man.....Please show where I've said that. You can't, it
isn't there. I don't know how things like that get into you head, but
perhaps professional help is in order. First, you say you feel like a
sadistic kid, then you go off on some tangent that I've NEVER said,
like the little demons in your head told you that!




Joe August 11th 03 08:58 PM

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I said please show where I said that. Okay? Now, again, SHOW WHERE I
said that (and I quote YOU) "anyone who disagrees with (my) principles
or (my) honor, deserves to have his neck broken like a twig". I'll be
waiting....


Back to the subject, Dummy.

Do you still believe that a normal engine burns NO oil in the combustion
chamber?



Bill Cole August 11th 03 10:36 PM

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Ok,
so you do agree that you grow marijuana in your house and make physical
threats to people on Usenet.


"basskisser" wrote in message
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"Bill Cole" wrote in message

. net...
Are you saying you have not made physical threats to any of the people
posting in rec.boats?


Damn it, if you are going to reply to my posts, PLEASE, learn how to
READ.
Okay, now, follow along S L O W L Y....
YOU said:
So are you saying that anyone who disagrees with your principles or
your
honor, deserves to have his neck broken like a twig?


I said please show where I said that. Okay? Now, again, SHOW WHERE I
said that (and I quote YOU) "anyone who disagrees with (my) principles
or (my) honor, deserves to have his neck broken like a twig". I'll be
waiting....




basskisser August 12th 03 03:02 PM

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"Bill Cole" wrote in message news:P%TZa.86251$Oz4.21290@rwcrnsc54...
Ok,
so you do agree that you grow marijuana in your house and make physical
threats to people on Usenet.

What's the matter, can't answer my direct response to you? Didn't
think so. I'll paste it again, so you can have another shot:

I said please show where I said that. Okay? Now, again, SHOW WHERE I
said that (and I quote YOU) "anyone who disagrees with (my) principles
or (my) honor, deserves to have his neck broken like a twig". I'll be
waiting....


Bill Cole August 12th 03 06:17 PM

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Kevin,
Are you going to break my neck if I don't respond to you?

"basskisser" wrote in message
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"Bill Cole" wrote in message

news:P%TZa.86251$Oz4.21290@rwcrnsc54...
Ok,
so you do agree that you grow marijuana in your house and make physical
threats to people on Usenet.

What's the matter, can't answer my direct response to you? Didn't
think so. I'll paste it again, so you can have another shot:

I said please show where I said that. Okay? Now, again, SHOW WHERE I
said that (and I quote YOU) "anyone who disagrees with (my) principles
or (my) honor, deserves to have his neck broken like a twig". I'll be
waiting....




Steven Shelikoff August 13th 03 03:46 AM

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On 11 Aug 2003 05:16:43 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message

Wrong. Calmness is a factor.

factor. Speed, Power, and Intensity IS. Etiquette is too weak of a
word, it is more like tradition.


Wrong. Karate is full of etiquette, including respecting your opponent.



Steve, please provide reference to where you've found this
information. Contrary to your personal belief, you've come up short.


Sorry, but you're wrong yet again. A simple google search turns up:

http://www.shoto.org/dojoEtiquette.htm
http://www.karateplanet.com/all_page...pages/i7_1.asp
http://www.pacifickarate.com/rules.html
http://w3.trib.com/~smammon/isshin.html#general

There's hundreds more links that prove you wrong. This is getting habit
forming for you.

The first thing they teach in Karate, is SPEED, POWER, INTENSITY.
Again, Karate is a defensive martial art. You don't act CALM when you
are being confronted. You are in a defensive posture. You have full


Wrong again. Do you actually think before you post? Karate teaches you
to remain calm when confronted and not panic as you would do if you had
no training.

More links:
From http://www.laffertyshotokan.com/phil...ar2003phil.htm

A calm mind generates not only fast techniques in a martial artist bu
also generates correct techniques because the mind controls the body.
Erratic mind means erratic moves. When the attacker moves, the defender
moves rapidly, smoothly, naturally and effortlessly due to training.

From http://seinenkai.com/art-ethics.html

Karate students are taught to hold back their fists when angry and to
ensure that they are calm and clear-headed when forced into a defensive
situation.

There are also hundreds more links that prove you wrong on this point as
well.

control of your available weapons. You are INTENSELY ready to act. If
and when you have to, you do so with speed, power, and intensity.


You are soooo simple minded. You just don't see that it's possible to
react with speed, power and intensity and yet remain calm, cool and
collected at the same time.

Now again, back to the subject at hand, do you think NONE of the oil
vapor that makes it's way back to the intake manifold via the PCV valve
gets burned?

Steve

Bill Cole August 13th 03 12:55 PM

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Kevin,
What dojo do you go to? What is your instructor's name?

"basskisser" wrote in message
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(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message

Whoa, there. One thing at a time. Please finish answering my reply.

Where did you train?


Why do you care?


As I suspected. You don't know a damned thing about Karate, except
what you've seen in movies!!!

What belt level are you?


Why do you care?


Again to find out just how much you know about Karate. What DO you
know?

What's the lineage of your school?


You seem to be obsessed with me. Why do you care about my personal
life?


I could care less about your personal life. I just want to know,
seeing how you try to come off as an expert of everything, where you
get your knowledge of Karate. Now where IS that dojo?

I also asked, seeing how Karate is a DEFENSIVE martial art, do you
honestly think that, when confronted, and you are in a defensive
posture, that you should succumb to tradition?


Yeah, right. You threatening to snap necks because you get frustrated
when losing a usnet argument is really being DEFENSIVE. Get a clue for
once, will ya?


You need to get a clue. In all of your Karate training, (where, who
long, what lineage WAS that?) didn't you learn that you are also
supposed to defend you HONOR?

It's funny, I ask these questions, then you snip, just like skipper,
to make it sound like you want, and then you can also answer only the
points that won't make you look like you don't know what you are
talking about. Now, again, where do you get your knowledge of Kenpo
Karate from?


Why are you obsessed with me and also avoiding the topic of the thread?


Because you are a stupid putz, trying to make everybody think you know
everything.




Bill Cole August 13th 03 09:20 PM

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Why are you so enthralled with Steve? I mean, hell, I'm sure he is flattered
that you think he's so great that you have a need to know all about me, but
then again, I think your infatuation is leaning toward stalking...
"basskisser" wrote in message
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"Bill Cole" wrote in message

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Kevin,
What dojo do you go to? What is your instructor's name?


Why are you so enthralled by me? I mean, hell, I'm flattered that you
think I'm so great that you have a need to know all about me, but then
again, I think your infatuation is leaning toward stalking...




Steven Shelikoff August 13th 03 11:51 PM

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On 13 Aug 2003 04:07:21 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message

Whoa, there. One thing at a time. Please finish answering my reply.

Where did you train?


Why do you care?


As I suspected. You don't know a damned thing about Karate, except
what you've seen in movies!!!


You're making assumptions based on no knowledge. That's one thing
you're very good at, the only thing.

What belt level are you?


Why do you care?


Again to find out just how much you know about Karate. What DO you
know?


What I know is that if you really have been taught karate, you have
learned your lessons about as well as you've learned about engines ...
which is nil.

What's the lineage of your school?


You seem to be obsessed with me. Why do you care about my personal
life?


I could care less about your personal life. I just want to know,
seeing how you try to come off as an expert of everything, where you
get your knowledge of Karate. Now where IS that dojo?


See, you are obsessed with me. Now you want to know details of my
personal life. You are a nutcase.

I also asked, seeing how Karate is a DEFENSIVE martial art, do you
honestly think that, when confronted, and you are in a defensive
posture, that you should succumb to tradition?


Yeah, right. You threatening to snap necks because you get frustrated
when losing a usnet argument is really being DEFENSIVE. Get a clue for
once, will ya?


You need to get a clue. In all of your Karate training, (where, who
long, what lineage WAS that?) didn't you learn that you are also
supposed to defend you HONOR?


No, not with physical threats or violence. That is the antitheses of
what karate is. It's also proof you know nothing about it.

It's funny, I ask these questions, then you snip, just like skipper,
to make it sound like you want, and then you can also answer only the
points that won't make you look like you don't know what you are
talking about. Now, again, where do you get your knowledge of Kenpo
Karate from?


Why are you obsessed with me and also avoiding the topic of the thread?


Because you are a stupid putz, trying to make everybody think you know
everything.


You're succeeding in making everybody think you know nothing.

Steve

Steven Shelikoff August 13th 03 11:51 PM

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On 13 Aug 2003 11:54:47 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message
You are soooo simple minded. You just don't see that it's possible to
react with speed, power and intensity and yet remain calm, cool and
collected at the same time.

Now again, back to the subject at hand, do you think NONE of the oil
vapor that makes it's way back to the intake manifold via the PCV valve
gets burned?

Steve


What a stupid, stupid man. Now, where do you train? What rank? What
lineage?


Now you're acting just like skipper, with your snipping of the relevant
facts that prove you're a moron.

Or, do you just get everything you've ever known from websites?
Newsflash, there, idiot. MOST websites dealing with martial arts tell
you that stuff. To a SMALL extent, it's true. Ever watch blackbelts
train? Calm? Not in the LEAST!


Why are you afraid to answer the simple question that is on topic to
this thread and reveals nothing about your personal life. Do you think
NONE of the oil vapor that makes it's way back to the intake manifold
via the PCV valve gets burned?

Steve

basskisser August 14th 03 12:10 PM

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(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message
Now you're acting just like skipper, with your snipping of the relevant
facts that prove you're a moron.

Or, do you just get everything you've ever known from websites?
Newsflash, there, idiot. MOST websites dealing with martial arts tell
you that stuff. To a SMALL extent, it's true. Ever watch blackbelts
train? Calm? Not in the LEAST!


Why are you afraid to answer the simple question that is on topic to
this thread and reveals nothing about your personal life. Do you think
NONE of the oil vapor that makes it's way back to the intake manifold
via the PCV valve gets burned?

Steve


Why? Because YOU, Steve, have written in this thread that I don't know
about Karate. Also, YOU have implied, through this thread, that YOU DO
know about Karate. Now, because of this implication, I'd like to see
just what you really do know about Karate. In particular American
Kenpo Karate, Ed Parker system??


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