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"Joe" wrote in message . ..
I feel very very sorry for your daughter. It must be a terrible burden to have to live with a father such as yourself. Please provide any and all facts that support your above diatribe. A sampling of you posts in this thread alone provides ample proof. Hmm, then I guess, by your posts here, that one can assume a lot about you, too. 1. You are NOT, nor have ever been, an licensed engineer. 2. You found a .jpg of a A.S.E. certification to try to make yourself sound like you have some training in SOMETHING. 3. You are either young, simple, or have some issues like your mommy beating you, because you have this need to try to sound better than everybody else. 4. You don't have a boat (because you don't ever post about anything boating related) 5. You must have been a lousy mechanic, if your claim of being a communications TECHNICIAN hold any water. |
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"basskisser" wrote in message om... "Joe" wrote in message . .. I feel very very sorry for your daughter. It must be a terrible burden to have to live with a father such as yourself. Please provide any and all facts that support your above diatribe. A sampling of you posts in this thread alone provides ample proof. Hmm, then I guess, by your posts here, that one can assume a lot about you, too. 1. You are NOT, nor have ever been, an licensed engineer. I never said I was a P.E. I said I was a "Telecommunications Infrastructure Engineer", an RCDD, and a holder of a Florida Certified Low Voltage License. 2. You found a .jpg of a A.S.E. certification to try to make yourself sound like you have some training in SOMETHING. 3. You are either young, simple, or have some issues like your mommy beating you, because you have this need to try to sound better than everybody else. 4. You don't have a boat (because you don't ever post about anything boating related) An outright lie, which from you is expected. 5. You must have been a lousy mechanic, if your claim of being a communications TECHNICIAN hold any water. Sorry, not a Technician. I design, inspect, and project manage. I too feel sorry for your daughter. |
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"basskisser" wrote in message om... "Joe" wrote in message . .. I feel very very sorry for your daughter. It must be a terrible burden to have to live with a father such as yourself. Please provide any and all facts that support your above diatribe. A sampling of you posts in this thread alone provides ample proof. Hmm, then I guess, by your posts here, that one can assume a lot about you, too. 1. You are NOT, nor have ever been, an licensed engineer. I never said I was a P.E. I said I was a "Telecommunications Infrastructure Engineer", an RCDD, and a holder of a Florida Certified Low Voltage License. Please see below: 43-15-30. Unlawful acts. (a) Any person who violates Code Section 43-15-7 shall be guilty of a misdemeanor. (b) Any person presenting or attempting to use as his own the certificate of registration or the seal of another obtained under this chapter shall be guilty of a misdemeanor. (c) Any person who gives any false or forged evidence of any kind to the board or to any member thereof in obtaining a certificate or certificate of registration shall be guilty of a misdemeanor. (d) Any person who falsely impersonates any other registrant or any person who attempts to use an expired or revoked certificate of registration shall be guilty of a misdemeanor. (e) Each day or occurrence shall be considered a separate offense. (f) Any person offering services to the public who uses by name, verbal claim, sign, advertisement, directory listing, or letterhead the words "Engineer," "Engineers," "Professional Engineering," "Engineering," or "Engineered" shall be guilty of a misdemeanor unless said person has complied with the provisions of this chapter. 2. You found a .jpg of a A.S.E. certification to try to make yourself sound like you have some training in SOMETHING. 3. You are either young, simple, or have some issues like your mommy beating you, because you have this need to try to sound better than everybody else. 4. You don't have a boat (because you don't ever post about anything boating related) An outright lie, which from you is expected. Yes, I know you lied. 5. You must have been a lousy mechanic, if your claim of being a communications TECHNICIAN hold any water. Sorry, not a Technician. I design, inspect, and project manage. I too feel sorry for your daughter. I feel sorry for anybody associated with you. What a putz. |
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You forgot where most of the oil goes- Past the exhaust valve. (but only on the exhaust stroke.) |
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(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ...
On 23 Jul 2003 07:02:18 -0700, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message You should probably learn to read a little better. I said that the pressure against the top of the rings is less than the pressure in the cylinder. You've already stated that's impossible. But you were wrong yet again. Now you're finally starting to understand why you were wrong ... maybe. We'll see. Steve Now, let me get this perfectly straight. You are saying 1. that the pressure on the TOP of the rings, due to compression is LESS than the pressure in the rest of the cylinder?? heehe!!! Uh, no. Please learn to read. I said that during the power stroke, the pressure against the rings is less than the pressure in the rest of the cylinder. However, it's also true that the pressure against the top of the rings is less than the pressure in the rest of the cylinder during the compression stroke. This is due to the fact that the rings don't produce a 100% seal and let some of the compressed mixture by them and that escaping gas has to pass through the thin turbulent gap between the piston and the cylinder. Whoa here, won't that layer of viscous oil on the cylinder wall (the one you claim is there getting burned) create a seal? It MUST, if as you've stated, it is viscous enough to cause a pressure at the rings of "several times" the compression of the engine. But the difference isn't nearly as great as during the power stroke. You can laugh all you want. It only shows your ignorance. No, it shows YOUR stupidity. 2. But, on the same hand, magically, the pressure on the bottom of the ring is GREATER than the pressure in the rest of the crankcase????? Exactly. Because the ring is moving down and pushing oil out of the way as it does so. When it's moving back up, that's not the case anymore. 3. The pressure on the bottom of the rings is "many times greater" than the 100 or so psi of the combustion chamber? How much? is it 1000 psi? 1,000,000 psi???? Why don't you figure it out for yourself. I've already posted everything an engineer needs to do so. But I'll tell you what I will do, I'll give you some feel for how much force is against the rings *if* the oil being wiped away is at a peak pressure of 1000 psi. HOW IN THE HELL does the oil get to anywhere NEAR "a peak pressure of 1000 psi?? Say the cylinder it 3" in diameter and the gap between the piston and cylinder is 0.005". Also, assume that the gap is totally filled with oil, which really isn't the case but it is a max case possible force. The area is 3*pi*0.005=0.047 sq in. At a peak pressure 1000 psi, the oil exerting a max case force of 47lbs against the rings as they are trying to wipe it away at a very high speed, the top speed of the piston as it moves down the cylinder. In actuality, the film of oil that the rings are pushing aside is really much less than 0.005". Some studies have shown that to prevent excessive wear, you want an oil film thickness of at least 5 microns. So we'll use 5 microns as a "min case", or minimum force that the oil might exert against the rings. 5 microns is about 0.0001975 inches. So the area in this case is 3*pi*0.0001975=0.00186 sq in. So in this min case, 1000 psi of peak oil pressure exerts about 1.86 lbs of force against the rings as they move at their highest speed down the cylinder. In reality, the oil film thickness that the rings would be trying to push away would be somewhere between the max of 0.005 and the min of 0.0002. So at 1000 psi peak pressure against the bottom of the ring, the force would be somewhere between around 2 lbs and 47 lbs. That's certainly within the realm of possibilities, so 1000 psi is also within the realm of possibilities. However, like I said, you have everything you need to figure it out. You can figure out a representative peak piston speed knowing the stroke and rpm of a sample engine. You can figure out the pressure/force that oil of a certain viscosity would exert against something pushing it at that speed. Give it a go. Let's see just how good a structural engineer you really are, as this should be right up your ally. I'll bet you come up with a number that is much greater than 100 psi. Will you bet that, as you've stated prior that I'll come up with a number that is "many times" greater than 100 psi? Or are you changing your story to just now say "much greater"? There is a huge difference here. Steve |
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"Joe" wrote in message . ..
Why don't *you* answer some questions? Yes or no: In a normal engine the oil ring on a piston is not 100% effective in removing all of the oil from the cylinder wall? In a normal engine a thin film of oil is left on the cylinder walls on the downward stroke? In a normal engine some oil is burned in the combustion chamber? In a normal engine some oil is consumed in the combustion chamber? What's the matter? You act just like a conservative talk show host, when the heat gets unbearable, you change the task at hand. The previous two posts from you were relating to you calling yourself an engineer. I blew that out of the water, when you specifically stated you were an engineer in GA, and FL. So, anyway, I'll answer your questions, then we'll get back to you being an engineer, okay? All four are not questions. All four are simple statements. A question is phrased like this: In a normal engine IS a thin film......blah blah. |
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"Joe" wrote in message ...
Speaking of asslickers, did you call the engineering company that I contract for yet? What did they say? I could care less where you work, and would never call if I did. I (unlike you) am mentally stable Oh, but you stated you were going to call the company I work for and tell them I was wasting company time on google. Also, did you research the size of California lakes yet? Can you prove me wrong? I only sided with Bill due to your track record, never actually checked, nor cared. Now back to you flogging. Back to YOUR flogging, now if you didn't care, nor "actually checked", then you made an ignorant statement, right? Seems to me that a statement made without any knowledge of the subject, is indeed ignorant, wouldn't you agree? Do you dispute the GM tech reference? Yes or no: In a normal engine the oil ring on a piston is not 100% effective in removing all of the oil from the cylinder wall. In a normal engine a thin film of oil is left on the cylinder walls on the downward stroke. In a normal engine some oil is burned in the combustion chamber. In a normal engine some oil is consumed in the combustion chamber. You've not asked any questions, those are simple statements. |
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"Put Name Here" wrote in message news:63KRa.77255$OZ2.12983@rwcrnsc54...
Don't they teach patience at the dojo? No, they don't "teach" patience. Patience is something that comes from within, and takes practice. What they DO teach is how to enlighten mind and body, then you can achieve such attributes as patience, reasoning. |
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Why don't *you* answer some questions? Yes or no: In a normal engine the oil ring on a piston is not 100% effective in removing all of the oil from the cylinder wall? In a normal engine a thin film of oil is left on the cylinder walls on the downward stroke? In a normal engine some oil is burned in the combustion chamber? In a normal engine some oil is consumed in the combustion chamber? What's the matter? You act just like a conservative talk show host, when the heat gets unbearable, you change the task at hand. No Asslicker, this thread is titled "usage of motoroil". You have consistently shown your ignorance on this subject and will not answer these simple questions. The previous two posts from you were relating to you calling yourself an engineer. I blew that out of the water, when you specifically stated you were an engineer in GA, and FL. So, anyway, I'll answer your questions, then we'll get back to you being an engineer, okay? I am an Engineer, a Telecommunications Engineer. Never said I was a P.E which in your mind is the *only* type of Engineer. I do not offer my services to the public, nor call myself a Professional Engineer. My Fl Low Voltage Specialty License does allow me to contract, design, install, and pull permits for telecommunications infrastructure projects in Florida and Georgia. All four are not questions. All four are simple statements. A question is phrased like this: In a normal engine IS a thin film......blah blah. All you have to do is answer Yes that you agree, or No that you do not agree. Very simple, I thought it was even easy enough for you to understand. |
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You've not asked any questions, those are simple statements. Simple statements that you cant grasp. Ok, make it easier. Just agree or disagree with each statement. |
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It seems that you have not done a good job of learning how to enlighten mind
and body, I have never seen an individual with so little patience and a complete lack of reasoning. While I have seem many people who enjoy a heated discussion in Usenet, I have never known anyone who asked him fellow workers what they think about his stupidity. Do your fellow workers walk away slowly as you talk to them about your rec.boats arguments? Does your daughter ever look at you and shake her head in embarrassment? "basskisser" wrote in message om... "Put Name Here" wrote in message news:63KRa.77255$OZ2.12983@rwcrnsc54... Don't they teach patience at the dojo? No, they don't "teach" patience. Patience is something that comes from within, and takes practice. What they DO teach is how to enlighten mind and body, then you can achieve such attributes as patience, reasoning. |
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Sort of like a high school kid pumping up his chest. ; )
"Joe" wrote in message ... Why don't *you* answer some questions? Yes or no: In a normal engine the oil ring on a piston is not 100% effective in removing all of the oil from the cylinder wall? In a normal engine a thin film of oil is left on the cylinder walls on the downward stroke? In a normal engine some oil is burned in the combustion chamber? In a normal engine some oil is consumed in the combustion chamber? What's the matter? You act just like a conservative talk show host, when the heat gets unbearable, you change the task at hand. No Asslicker, this thread is titled "usage of motoroil". You have consistently shown your ignorance on this subject and will not answer these simple questions. The previous two posts from you were relating to you calling yourself an engineer. I blew that out of the water, when you specifically stated you were an engineer in GA, and FL. So, anyway, I'll answer your questions, then we'll get back to you being an engineer, okay? I am an Engineer, a Telecommunications Engineer. Never said I was a P.E which in your mind is the *only* type of Engineer. I do not offer my services to the public, nor call myself a Professional Engineer. My Fl Low Voltage Specialty License does allow me to contract, design, install, and pull permits for telecommunications infrastructure projects in Florida and Georgia. All four are not questions. All four are simple statements. A question is phrased like this: In a normal engine IS a thin film......blah blah. All you have to do is answer Yes that you agree, or No that you do not agree. Very simple, I thought it was even easy enough for you to understand. |
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On 24 Jul 2003 12:51:45 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:
(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On 23 Jul 2003 07:02:18 -0700, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message You should probably learn to read a little better. I said that the pressure against the top of the rings is less than the pressure in the cylinder. You've already stated that's impossible. But you were wrong yet again. Now you're finally starting to understand why you were wrong ... maybe. We'll see. Steve Now, let me get this perfectly straight. You are saying 1. that the pressure on the TOP of the rings, due to compression is LESS than the pressure in the rest of the cylinder?? heehe!!! Uh, no. Please learn to read. I said that during the power stroke, the pressure against the rings is less than the pressure in the rest of the cylinder. However, it's also true that the pressure against the top of the rings is less than the pressure in the rest of the cylinder during the compression stroke. This is due to the fact that the rings don't produce a 100% seal and let some of the compressed mixture by them and that escaping gas has to pass through the thin turbulent gap between the piston and the cylinder. Whoa here, won't that layer of viscous oil on the cylinder wall (the one you claim is there getting burned) create a seal? It MUST, if as you've stated, it is viscous enough to cause a pressure at the rings of "several times" the compression of the engine. Dummy, it does creat a seal. Not a 100% effective one though. That's part of the job of the rings. But the difference isn't nearly as great as during the power stroke. You can laugh all you want. It only shows your ignorance. No, it shows YOUR stupidity. You laughing at a true statement shows my stupidity? The fact you think that shows even more of your stupidity. 2. But, on the same hand, magically, the pressure on the bottom of the ring is GREATER than the pressure in the rest of the crankcase????? Exactly. Because the ring is moving down and pushing oil out of the way as it does so. When it's moving back up, that's not the case anymore. 3. The pressure on the bottom of the rings is "many times greater" than the 100 or so psi of the combustion chamber? How much? is it 1000 psi? 1,000,000 psi???? Why don't you figure it out for yourself. I've already posted everything an engineer needs to do so. But I'll tell you what I will do, I'll give you some feel for how much force is against the rings *if* the oil being wiped away is at a peak pressure of 1000 psi. HOW IN THE HELL does the oil get to anywhere NEAR "a peak pressure of 1000 psi?? I said *if* it did, not that it does. I'm leaving it as an exercise for you to figure out what the peak pressure is. Show your work. Say the cylinder it 3" in diameter and the gap between the piston and cylinder is 0.005". Also, assume that the gap is totally filled with oil, which really isn't the case but it is a max case possible force. The area is 3*pi*0.005=0.047 sq in. At a peak pressure 1000 psi, the oil exerting a max case force of 47lbs against the rings as they are trying to wipe it away at a very high speed, the top speed of the piston as it moves down the cylinder. In actuality, the film of oil that the rings are pushing aside is really much less than 0.005". Some studies have shown that to prevent excessive wear, you want an oil film thickness of at least 5 microns. So we'll use 5 microns as a "min case", or minimum force that the oil might exert against the rings. 5 microns is about 0.0001975 inches. So the area in this case is 3*pi*0.0001975=0.00186 sq in. So in this min case, 1000 psi of peak oil pressure exerts about 1.86 lbs of force against the rings as they move at their highest speed down the cylinder. In reality, the oil film thickness that the rings would be trying to push away would be somewhere between the max of 0.005 and the min of 0.0002. So at 1000 psi peak pressure against the bottom of the ring, the force would be somewhere between around 2 lbs and 47 lbs. That's certainly within the realm of possibilities, so 1000 psi is also within the realm of possibilities. However, like I said, you have everything you need to figure it out. You can figure out a representative peak piston speed knowing the stroke and rpm of a sample engine. You can figure out the pressure/force that oil of a certain viscosity would exert against something pushing it at that speed. Give it a go. Let's see just how good a structural engineer you really are, as this should be right up your ally. I'll bet you come up with a number that is much greater than 100 psi. Will you bet that, as you've stated prior that I'll come up with a number that is "many times" greater than 100 psi? Or are you changing your story to just now say "much greater"? There is a huge difference here. Much or many times. Either one you want. Now go ahead and figure it out, if you can. Of course, none of this changes the basic fact that you were wrong when you said a normal engine should burn NO oil. If you don't believe me, GM, Popular Mechanics, Detroit Diesel and Toyota all say you're wrong. Steve |
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(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ...
On 24 Jul 2003 12:51:45 -0700, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On 23 Jul 2003 07:02:18 -0700, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message You should probably learn to read a little better. I said that the pressure against the top of the rings is less than the pressure in the cylinder. You've already stated that's impossible. But you were wrong yet again. Now you're finally starting to understand why you were wrong ... maybe. We'll see. Steve Now, let me get this perfectly straight. You are saying 1. that the pressure on the TOP of the rings, due to compression is LESS than the pressure in the rest of the cylinder?? heehe!!! Uh, no. Please learn to read. I said that during the power stroke, the pressure against the rings is less than the pressure in the rest of the cylinder. However, it's also true that the pressure against the top of the rings is less than the pressure in the rest of the cylinder during the compression stroke. This is due to the fact that the rings don't produce a 100% seal and let some of the compressed mixture by them and that escaping gas has to pass through the thin turbulent gap between the piston and the cylinder. Whoa here, won't that layer of viscous oil on the cylinder wall (the one you claim is there getting burned) create a seal? It MUST, if as you've stated, it is viscous enough to cause a pressure at the rings of "several times" the compression of the engine. Dummy, it does creat a seal. Not a 100% effective one though. That's part of the job of the rings. But the difference isn't nearly as great as during the power stroke. You can laugh all you want. It only shows your ignorance. No, it shows YOUR stupidity. You laughing at a true statement shows my stupidity? The fact you think that shows even more of your stupidity. 2. But, on the same hand, magically, the pressure on the bottom of the ring is GREATER than the pressure in the rest of the crankcase????? Exactly. Because the ring is moving down and pushing oil out of the way as it does so. When it's moving back up, that's not the case anymore. 3. The pressure on the bottom of the rings is "many times greater" than the 100 or so psi of the combustion chamber? How much? is it 1000 psi? 1,000,000 psi???? Why don't you figure it out for yourself. I've already posted everything an engineer needs to do so. But I'll tell you what I will do, I'll give you some feel for how much force is against the rings *if* the oil being wiped away is at a peak pressure of 1000 psi. HOW IN THE HELL does the oil get to anywhere NEAR "a peak pressure of 1000 psi?? I said *if* it did, not that it does. I'm leaving it as an exercise for you to figure out what the peak pressure is. Show your work. Say the cylinder it 3" in diameter and the gap between the piston and cylinder is 0.005". Also, assume that the gap is totally filled with oil, which really isn't the case but it is a max case possible force. The area is 3*pi*0.005=0.047 sq in. At a peak pressure 1000 psi, the oil exerting a max case force of 47lbs against the rings as they are trying to wipe it away at a very high speed, the top speed of the piston as it moves down the cylinder. In actuality, the film of oil that the rings are pushing aside is really much less than 0.005". Some studies have shown that to prevent excessive wear, you want an oil film thickness of at least 5 microns. So we'll use 5 microns as a "min case", or minimum force that the oil might exert against the rings. 5 microns is about 0.0001975 inches. So the area in this case is 3*pi*0.0001975=0.00186 sq in. So in this min case, 1000 psi of peak oil pressure exerts about 1.86 lbs of force against the rings as they move at their highest speed down the cylinder. In reality, the oil film thickness that the rings would be trying to push away would be somewhere between the max of 0.005 and the min of 0.0002. So at 1000 psi peak pressure against the bottom of the ring, the force would be somewhere between around 2 lbs and 47 lbs. That's certainly within the realm of possibilities, so 1000 psi is also within the realm of possibilities. However, like I said, you have everything you need to figure it out. You can figure out a representative peak piston speed knowing the stroke and rpm of a sample engine. You can figure out the pressure/force that oil of a certain viscosity would exert against something pushing it at that speed. Give it a go. Let's see just how good a structural engineer you really are, as this should be right up your ally. I'll bet you come up with a number that is much greater than 100 psi. Will you bet that, as you've stated prior that I'll come up with a number that is "many times" greater than 100 psi? Or are you changing your story to just now say "much greater"? There is a huge difference here. Much or many times. Either one you want. Now go ahead and figure it out, if you can. Of course, none of this changes the basic fact that you were wrong when you said a normal engine should burn NO oil. If you don't believe me, GM, Popular Mechanics, Detroit Diesel and Toyota all say you're wrong. Steve Whatever, Shecoughed. You don't know crap, and never will. I given several examples backing my opinion. When given them, and the heat gets turned up, you resort to name calling, acting like a little school girl. I'm sorry that you don't have the mental capacity to learn anything except what is already locked in your little brain. Once again, you've shown you don't have the insight to learn anything new. good day. |
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On 25 Jul 2003 04:33:50 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:
(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On 24 Jul 2003 12:51:45 -0700, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On 23 Jul 2003 07:02:18 -0700, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message You should probably learn to read a little better. I said that the pressure against the top of the rings is less than the pressure in the cylinder. You've already stated that's impossible. But you were wrong yet again. Now you're finally starting to understand why you were wrong ... maybe. We'll see. Steve Now, let me get this perfectly straight. You are saying 1. that the pressure on the TOP of the rings, due to compression is LESS than the pressure in the rest of the cylinder?? heehe!!! Uh, no. Please learn to read. I said that during the power stroke, the pressure against the rings is less than the pressure in the rest of the cylinder. However, it's also true that the pressure against the top of the rings is less than the pressure in the rest of the cylinder during the compression stroke. This is due to the fact that the rings don't produce a 100% seal and let some of the compressed mixture by them and that escaping gas has to pass through the thin turbulent gap between the piston and the cylinder. Whoa here, won't that layer of viscous oil on the cylinder wall (the one you claim is there getting burned) create a seal? It MUST, if as you've stated, it is viscous enough to cause a pressure at the rings of "several times" the compression of the engine. Dummy, it does creat a seal. Not a 100% effective one though. That's part of the job of the rings. But the difference isn't nearly as great as during the power stroke. You can laugh all you want. It only shows your ignorance. No, it shows YOUR stupidity. You laughing at a true statement shows my stupidity? The fact you think that shows even more of your stupidity. 2. But, on the same hand, magically, the pressure on the bottom of the ring is GREATER than the pressure in the rest of the crankcase????? Exactly. Because the ring is moving down and pushing oil out of the way as it does so. When it's moving back up, that's not the case anymore. 3. The pressure on the bottom of the rings is "many times greater" than the 100 or so psi of the combustion chamber? How much? is it 1000 psi? 1,000,000 psi???? Why don't you figure it out for yourself. I've already posted everything an engineer needs to do so. But I'll tell you what I will do, I'll give you some feel for how much force is against the rings *if* the oil being wiped away is at a peak pressure of 1000 psi. HOW IN THE HELL does the oil get to anywhere NEAR "a peak pressure of 1000 psi?? I said *if* it did, not that it does. I'm leaving it as an exercise for you to figure out what the peak pressure is. Show your work. Say the cylinder it 3" in diameter and the gap between the piston and cylinder is 0.005". Also, assume that the gap is totally filled with oil, which really isn't the case but it is a max case possible force. The area is 3*pi*0.005=0.047 sq in. At a peak pressure 1000 psi, the oil exerting a max case force of 47lbs against the rings as they are trying to wipe it away at a very high speed, the top speed of the piston as it moves down the cylinder. In actuality, the film of oil that the rings are pushing aside is really much less than 0.005". Some studies have shown that to prevent excessive wear, you want an oil film thickness of at least 5 microns. So we'll use 5 microns as a "min case", or minimum force that the oil might exert against the rings. 5 microns is about 0.0001975 inches. So the area in this case is 3*pi*0.0001975=0.00186 sq in. So in this min case, 1000 psi of peak oil pressure exerts about 1.86 lbs of force against the rings as they move at their highest speed down the cylinder. In reality, the oil film thickness that the rings would be trying to push away would be somewhere between the max of 0.005 and the min of 0.0002. So at 1000 psi peak pressure against the bottom of the ring, the force would be somewhere between around 2 lbs and 47 lbs. That's certainly within the realm of possibilities, so 1000 psi is also within the realm of possibilities. However, like I said, you have everything you need to figure it out. You can figure out a representative peak piston speed knowing the stroke and rpm of a sample engine. You can figure out the pressure/force that oil of a certain viscosity would exert against something pushing it at that speed. Give it a go. Let's see just how good a structural engineer you really are, as this should be right up your ally. I'll bet you come up with a number that is much greater than 100 psi. Will you bet that, as you've stated prior that I'll come up with a number that is "many times" greater than 100 psi? Or are you changing your story to just now say "much greater"? There is a huge difference here. Much or many times. Either one you want. Now go ahead and figure it out, if you can. Of course, none of this changes the basic fact that you were wrong when you said a normal engine should burn NO oil. If you don't believe me, GM, Popular Mechanics, Detroit Diesel and Toyota all say you're wrong. Whatever, Shecoughed. You don't know crap, and never will. I given Shecoughed? That's something a little schoolgirl would do. several examples backing my opinion. When given them, and the heat gets turned up, you resort to name calling, acting like a little You haven't given a single example backing up your opinion. The only real cite you gave goes against your opinion. And for the examples of other ways an engine looses oil, (exhaust valve and exhaust valve stem) Toyota specifically says oil lost that way is burned. school girl. I'm sorry that you don't have the mental capacity to learn anything except what is already locked in your little brain. You don't seem to even have anything locked in your little brain. Not only can't you understand simple english statements but you're also stupid enough to bring your 8 yo daughter in to defend you. Once again, you've shown you don't have the insight to learn anything new. good day. Thanks for admitting you don't know squat, were wrong when you said a normal engine should burn no oil, and that you're not a very good engineer if you can't figure out that simple problem. Good day to you to, and sleep well knowing that everyone thinks you're a moron. Steve |
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Okay, one time, asshole. I don't need ANYBODY to "defend" me against the likes of a little piece of **** like you. You are a worthless piece of crap, and will NEVER be a man. Go ahead, you little poor excuse of a man, give me a reason, I'd snap your little pencil neck like a twig.- Going over the edge again? Ya know smoking too much pot can do that to you. http://tinyurl.com/ij7l |
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Okay, one time, asshole. I don't need ANYBODY to "defend" me against the likes of a little piece of **** like you. You are a worthless piece of crap, and will NEVER be a man. Go ahead, you little poor excuse of a man, give me a reason, I'd snap your little pencil neck like a twig.- Going over the edge again? Ya know smoking too much pot can do that to you. http://tinyurl.com/ij7l Are you implying that I smoke pot? If so, please give any proof. Stupid man. |
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"basskisser" wrote in message om... "Joe" wrote in message ... Okay, one time, asshole. I don't need ANYBODY to "defend" me against the likes of a little piece of **** like you. You are a worthless piece of crap, and will NEVER be a man. Go ahead, you little poor excuse of a man, give me a reason, I'd snap your little pencil neck like a twig.- Going over the edge again? Ya know smoking too much pot can do that to you. http://tinyurl.com/ij7l Are you implying that I smoke pot? If so, please give any proof. Stupid man. Well, I guess it is possible that someone could grow it without smoking it. Or, lie about growing it in the first place. |
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On 31 Jul 2003 04:10:16 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:
(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On 30 Jul 2003 09:24:13 -0700, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message Whatever, Shecoughed. You don't know crap, and never will. I given Shecoughed? That's something a little schoolgirl would do. Resorting to name calling....YOU taught me that. That's something else a little schoolgirl would say. But thanks for admitting that name calling is ALL you can learn. several examples backing my opinion. When given them, and the heat gets turned up, you resort to name calling, acting like a little You haven't given a single example backing up your opinion. The only real cite you gave goes against your opinion. And for the examples of other ways an engine looses oil, (exhaust valve and exhaust valve stem) Toyota specifically says oil lost that way is burned. school girl. I'm sorry that you don't have the mental capacity to learn anything except what is already locked in your little brain. See? YOU have just stated....name calling is something a little school girl would do. And it is. What's you point? Or are you just pointing out the fact that your too stupid to figure out the difference between what I typed and what YOU typed. You just responded negatively to something that you yourself wrote. I don't even have to point out what a moron you are. You're doing it for me. Sheesh!!! You don't seem to even have anything locked in your little brain. Not only can't you understand simple english statements but you're also stupid enough to bring your 8 yo daughter in to defend you. Okay, one time, asshole. I don't need ANYBODY to "defend" me against the likes of a little piece of **** like you. You are a worthless Then why did you call on your daughter to do exactly that? You little idiot! I NEVER called on my daughter to defend me. NEVER. I simply said that my daughter could understand things that you could not. Uh, hey dummy, that's calling on your daughter to defend you. Also, your friends at work and a certified Chrysler mechanic friend of yours? Or were you just lying when you said you had friends? Probably. Whatever. We DO have good laughs at your idiotic diatribes! They're laughing AT you, not with you. piece of crap, and will NEVER be a man. Go ahead, you little poor excuse of a man, give me a reason, I'd snap your little pencil neck like a twig. Got it? Now, do you want to see if I need someone to defend me? Come on, please do, you nasty little prick. Threaten me or my family, we'll see. Now, go see if you can screw some woman out of her child support. What a nasty inferiority complex you have there. And a temper as well. Both signs of limited capacity to reason, which you have shown boudless amounts of. Are you saying that, because somebody gets frustrated at a pencil necked idiot that can't REASON, that THEY are the ones with the limited mental capacity?? No. But when a bully like yourself lashes out with threats when he realizes he's lost a debate, that's an inferiority complex ... the type of which you suffer from, Once again, you've shown you don't have the insight to learn anything new. good day. Thanks for admitting you don't know squat, were wrong when you said a normal engine should burn no oil, and that you're not a very good engineer if you can't figure out that simple problem. Good day to you to, and sleep well knowing that everyone thinks you're a moron. Yeah, sure. You spin as good as Rush. You don't have the mental capacity to learn anything, yet you somehow think it's because of me?? I'm a damned good engineer. I have MUCH more work than I can possibly handle, and turn down work every day, ALL from previous clients. I NEVER hunt for new clients or work. There's that inferiority complex brewing again. You need professional help, and not just in engineering. Inferiority complex because I KNOW that I'm successful? I don't understand. Bragging and boasting about your prowess, especially when none of that is evident in and of itself, is another sign of your inferiority complex. Again, go see if you can screw some woman out of her child support...again. Confusing me with someone else is just a sign of your stupidity, not your inferiority complex. Steve |
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On 1 Aug 2003 04:40:27 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:
(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On 31 Jul 2003 04:10:16 -0700, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On 30 Jul 2003 09:24:13 -0700, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message Whatever, Shecoughed. You don't know crap, and never will. I given Shecoughed? That's something a little schoolgirl would do. Resorting to name calling....YOU taught me that. That's something else a little schoolgirl would say. But thanks for admitting that name calling is ALL you can learn. Come here, I'll show you how much of a school girl I am...care to give it a try? There's more of that inferiority complex shining through. And a stalker mentality as well. All because you can't bring yourself to admit you were wrong when you said an engine should burn NO oil. There's really some sort of wacky pathology working with you. several examples backing my opinion. When given them, and the heat gets turned up, you resort to name calling, acting like a little You haven't given a single example backing up your opinion. The only real cite you gave goes against your opinion. And for the examples of other ways an engine looses oil, (exhaust valve and exhaust valve stem) Toyota specifically says oil lost that way is burned. Bull****. Really? Well, here's the quote from Toyota in case you forgot: "Oil is also used to lubricate the stems of the intake valves. Some of this oil is sucked into the combustion chamber together with the intake air and is burned along with the fuel. High temperature exhaust gases also burn the oil used to lubricate the exhaust valve stems." Do you see where Toyota says that "high temperature exhaust gases also BURN the oil used to lubricate the exhaust valve stems"? Is that plain and simple enough english for your deviant brain to understand? school girl. I'm sorry that you don't have the mental capacity to learn anything except what is already locked in your little brain. See? YOU have just stated....name calling is something a little school girl would do. And it is. What's you point? Or are you just pointing out the fact that your too stupid to figure out the difference between what I typed and what YOU typed. You just responded negatively to something that you yourself wrote. I don't even have to point out what a moron you are. You're doing it for me. Sheesh!!! You IDIOT! YOU are the one that started the name calling in this thread. Look for yourself. Therefore YOU are the one commenting negatively about something YOU have done. Wrong again. You're the first one to start name calling in this thread. It's your typical MO when you realize you're wrong. But you have to admit, this particular case of you responding negatively to the EXACT quote that YOU wrote is pretty funny. That alone was worth continuing this boring discussion with you. It's so funny, it's worth a cut'n'paste he YOU said: school girl. I'm sorry that you don't have the mental capacity to learn anything except what is already locked in your little brain. to which YOU replied: See? YOU have just stated....name calling is something a little school girl would do. Hilarious!!!! Thanks for giving me a good belly laugh yet again! I know it's not polite to laugh at the mentally handicapped, but in your case I can't help it. Maybe it's because of the dichotomy between all your boasting about how smart you are and how stupid you really are. You don't seem to even have anything locked in your little brain. Not only can't you understand simple english statements but you're also stupid enough to bring your 8 yo daughter in to defend you. Okay, one time, asshole. I don't need ANYBODY to "defend" me against the likes of a little piece of **** like you. You are a worthless Then why did you call on your daughter to do exactly that? You little idiot! I NEVER called on my daughter to defend me. NEVER. I simply said that my daughter could understand things that you could not. Uh, hey dummy, that's calling on your daughter to defend you. Uh, idiot, no, it's not. If I was in legal trouble, and I said, well, Johnny Cochran understands, why don't you? Does that mean that Johnny is DEFENDING me? No. It's doesn't mean he IS defending you. But it DOES mean you're calling on him to defend your position, which is exactly what you did with your daughter. Also, your friends at work and a certified Chrysler mechanic friend of yours? Or were you just lying when you said you had friends? Probably. Whatever. We DO have good laughs at your idiotic diatribes! They're laughing AT you, not with you. piece of crap, and will NEVER be a man. Go ahead, you little poor excuse of a man, give me a reason, I'd snap your little pencil neck like a twig. Got it? Now, do you want to see if I need someone to defend me? Come on, please do, you nasty little prick. Threaten me or my family, we'll see. Now, go see if you can screw some woman out of her child support. What a nasty inferiority complex you have there. And a temper as well. Both signs of limited capacity to reason, which you have shown boudless amounts of. Are you saying that, because somebody gets frustrated at a pencil necked idiot that can't REASON, that THEY are the ones with the limited mental capacity?? No. But when a bully like yourself lashes out with threats when he realizes he's lost a debate, that's an inferiority complex ... the type of which you suffer from, Please provide proof that I'm suffering from some "mental complex". You don't know me, nor no OF me, but you have the audacity to think that you can sit there and psychologically analyse me? Wow, you really DO think you know it all, huh? If you're being honest here and typing what you actually feel, then you're suffering from a "mental complex." If you're just play acting and purposefully typing in the way a deranged person would, then you're just having some fun at the newsgroup's expense. Once again, you've shown you don't have the insight to learn anything new. good day. Thanks for admitting you don't know squat, were wrong when you said a normal engine should burn no oil, and that you're not a very good engineer if you can't figure out that simple problem. Good day to you to, and sleep well knowing that everyone thinks you're a moron. Yeah, sure. You spin as good as Rush. You don't have the mental capacity to learn anything, yet you somehow think it's because of me?? I'm a damned good engineer. I have MUCH more work than I can possibly handle, and turn down work every day, ALL from previous clients. I NEVER hunt for new clients or work. There's that inferiority complex brewing again. You need professional help, and not just in engineering. Inferiority complex because I KNOW that I'm successful? I don't understand. Bragging and boasting about your prowess, especially when none of that is evident in and of itself, is another sign of your inferiority complex. so, if you KNOW something as an absolute fact, that is and inferiority complex? Nope. Nice strawman attempt, but it didn't work. It's obvious you don't know the signs of an inferiority complex or you would recognize them in yourself. Again, go see if you can screw some woman out of her child support...again. Confusing me with someone else is just a sign of your stupidity, not your inferiority complex. And, I'm not confusing you with anybody. Yes, you are. As usual, you're wrong on a fact and are too stupid to admit it. In this case, it has something to do with your thinking that I've screwed some woman out of her child support. That's patently and factually wrong. I know you won't be able to admit your mistake though. Pathological you are. Steve |
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"basskisser" wrote in message om... (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message Also, your friends at work and a certified Chrysler mechanic friend of yours? Or were you just lying when you said you had friends? Probably. Whatever. We DO have good laughs at your idiotic diatribes! They're laughing AT you, not with you. Really? Yes, really. From Saturn- When and Why to Check Your Oil Oil is the lifeblood of your engine, so it's very important that the proper level and quality of oil be maintained in the engine at all times. Saturn recommends that you check your oil level every time you stop for gas -- this applies to both old and new engines because every engine consumes some amount of oil even under normal conditions. http://www.saturn.com/mysaturn/service/clinicsoil.jhtml My car is using oil. Is this normal? According to our Engineering Department, oil consumption of up to one quart every 2,000 miles should be considered acceptable. If you think your Saturn is consuming oil beyond this parameter, we encourage you to have your servicing Saturn facility conduct an oil consumption test. http://tinyurl.com/iqwm |
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"Joe" wrote in message ...
"basskisser" wrote in message om... "Joe" wrote in message ... Okay, one time, asshole. I don't need ANYBODY to "defend" me against the likes of a little piece of **** like you. You are a worthless piece of crap, and will NEVER be a man. Go ahead, you little poor excuse of a man, give me a reason, I'd snap your little pencil neck like a twig.- Going over the edge again? Ya know smoking too much pot can do that to you. http://tinyurl.com/ij7l Are you implying that I smoke pot? If so, please give any proof. Stupid man. Well, I guess it is possible that someone could grow it without smoking it. Or, lie about growing it in the first place. And your point? You stated "Ya know smoking too much pot can do that to you." I asked for any proof you may have that I smoke pot. You're a damned liar, just like you tried to lie about being an engineer, JoeTechnician. |
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Going over the edge again?
Ya know smoking too much pot can do that to you. http://tinyurl.com/ij7l Are you implying that I smoke pot? If so, please give any proof. Stupid man. Well, I guess it is possible that someone could grow it without smoking it. Or, lie about growing it in the first place. And your point? You stated "Ya know smoking too much pot can do that to you." I asked for any proof you may have that I smoke pot. You're a damned liar, just like you tried to lie about being an engineer, JoeTechnician. I never said that you smoked it. The link is to a post where *you* said you were growing it. http://tinyurl.com/ij7l |
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On 1 Aug 2003 04:40:27 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:
(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On 31 Jul 2003 04:10:16 -0700, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On 30 Jul 2003 09:24:13 -0700, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message Whatever, Shecoughed. You don't know crap, and never will. I given Shecoughed? That's something a little schoolgirl would do. Resorting to name calling....YOU taught me that. That's something else a little schoolgirl would say. But thanks for admitting that name calling is ALL you can learn. Come here, I'll show you how much of a school girl I am...care to give it a try? several examples backing my opinion. When given them, and the heat gets turned up, you resort to name calling, acting like a little You haven't given a single example backing up your opinion. The only real cite you gave goes against your opinion. And for the examples of other ways an engine looses oil, (exhaust valve and exhaust valve stem) Toyota specifically says oil lost that way is burned. Bull****. school girl. I'm sorry that you don't have the mental capacity to learn anything except what is already locked in your little brain. See? YOU have just stated....name calling is something a little school girl would do. And it is. What's you point? Or are you just pointing out the fact that your too stupid to figure out the difference between what I typed and what YOU typed. You just responded negatively to something that you yourself wrote. I don't even have to point out what a moron you are. You're doing it for me. Sheesh!!! You IDIOT! YOU are the one that started the name calling in this thread. Look for yourself. Therefore YOU are the one commenting negatively about something YOU have done. What a little baby you are. "Mommy, he started it... waaaah waaaah!!!" It's hilarious to watch a supposedly grown man act as stupid and childish as you are. And it's getting monotonous proving you wrong all the time, but here we go again. I know I shouldn't have done this, but because it's so easy to prove you wrong with almost everything you say, I figured I'd look back to see who first called someone else a name. In this thread, you were the one who started name calling when you posted way back on June 12th: "Please provide ONE technical bulletin for ANY diesel engine that shows the amount of oil that it should BURN. Your an idiot. It should burn NO oil. Jeez, do you think that it's a radial aircraft engine, or what? Now, I'm waiting for that tech sheet." That post says it all. It shows you first started calling names when you said "Your an idiot" and you showed just how much of an idiot you are by using "Your" instead of "You're" when calling someone ELSE an idiot. Sheesh. And it also set the stage for your indefensible (because it's wrong) argument that an engine should burn NO oil. And it also set the stage for showing how little english you understand when the tech sheets you asked for were provided. All that in one post. I'll bet you wish you could take it back now that you know how dumb it made you look. Steve |
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"Joe" wrote in message ...
Going over the edge again? Ya know smoking too much pot can do that to you. http://tinyurl.com/ij7l Are you implying that I smoke pot? If so, please give any proof. Stupid man. Well, I guess it is possible that someone could grow it without smoking it. Or, lie about growing it in the first place. And your point? You stated "Ya know smoking too much pot can do that to you." I asked for any proof you may have that I smoke pot. You're a damned liar, just like you tried to lie about being an engineer, JoeTechnician. I never said that you smoked it. The link is to a post where *you* said you were growing it. http://tinyurl.com/ij7l Oh, hey, Joe, I hate to tell you this, but what would you think that the words "ya know smoking too much pot can do that to you" imply? YOU are saying that I smoke pot. I know you are too stupid to figure it out, what with running cable consuming your every thought, but if you weren't saying that I smoke pot, HOW could I POSSIBLY be "smoking too much pot"? |
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"basskisser" wrote in message om... (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message Also, your friends at work and a certified Chrysler mechanic friend of yours? Or were you just lying when you said you had friends? Probably. Whatever. We DO have good laughs at your idiotic diatribes! They're laughing AT you, not with you. Really? Yes, really. From Saturn- When and Why to Check Your Oil Oil is the lifeblood of your engine, so it's very important that the proper level and quality of oil be maintained in the engine at all times. Saturn recommends that you check your oil level every time you stop for gas -- this applies to both old and new engines because every engine consumes some amount of oil even under normal conditions. http://www.saturn.com/mysaturn/service/clinicsoil.jhtml My car is using oil. Is this normal? According to our Engineering Department, oil consumption of up to one quart every 2,000 miles should be considered acceptable. If you think your Saturn is consuming oil beyond this parameter, we encourage you to have your servicing Saturn facility conduct an oil consumption test. http://tinyurl.com/iqwm Oh you effing IDIOT!!!! You CAN'T possibly be that dense, can you? CONSUME, idiot....CONSUME!!! WHERE does it say it was BURNED??? |
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"Put Name Here" wrote in message news:c4KRa.77267$OZ2.13861@rwcrnsc54... Grasshopper, breath deeply my little asskisser, and you will feel better. Wow, you aren't just kidding are you? You REALLY ARE an ignorant putz. I think you fellows are winning the competition for the longest, dullest string in newsgroup history. -- * * * email sent to will *never* get to me. |
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This argument reminds me of the Special Olympics. You might win, but you are still a retard. ; ) Another Klassy Konservative... -- * * * email sent to will *never* get to me. |
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"basskisser" wrote in message om... "Joe" wrote in message ... Going over the edge again? Ya know smoking too much pot can do that to you. http://tinyurl.com/ij7l Are you implying that I smoke pot? If so, please give any proof. Stupid man. Well, I guess it is possible that someone could grow it without smoking it. Or, lie about growing it in the first place. And your point? You stated "Ya know smoking too much pot can do that to you." I asked for any proof you may have that I smoke pot. You're a damned liar, just like you tried to lie about being an engineer, JoeTechnician. I never said that you smoked it. The link is to a post where *you* said you were growing it. http://tinyurl.com/ij7l Oh, hey, Joe, I hate to tell you this, but what would you think that the words "ya know smoking too much pot can do that to you" imply? YOU are saying that I smoke pot. I know you are too stupid to figure it out, what with running cable consuming your every thought, but if you weren't saying that I smoke pot, HOW could I POSSIBLY be "smoking too much pot"? Of course I cant prove that you smoke it, but you *did* say you grew it. |
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On 4 Aug 2003 04:07:23 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message ... "basskisser" wrote in message om... (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message Also, your friends at work and a certified Chrysler mechanic friend of yours? Or were you just lying when you said you had friends? Probably. Whatever. We DO have good laughs at your idiotic diatribes! They're laughing AT you, not with you. Really? Yes, really. From Saturn- When and Why to Check Your Oil Oil is the lifeblood of your engine, so it's very important that the proper level and quality of oil be maintained in the engine at all times. Saturn recommends that you check your oil level every time you stop for gas -- this applies to both old and new engines because every engine consumes some amount of oil even under normal conditions. http://www.saturn.com/mysaturn/service/clinicsoil.jhtml My car is using oil. Is this normal? According to our Engineering Department, oil consumption of up to one quart every 2,000 miles should be considered acceptable. If you think your Saturn is consuming oil beyond this parameter, we encourage you to have your servicing Saturn facility conduct an oil consumption test. http://tinyurl.com/iqwm Oh you effing IDIOT!!!! You CAN'T possibly be that dense, can you? CONSUME, idiot....CONSUME!!! WHERE does it say it was BURNED??? Other than leaking oil, which is not normal, you haven't given any other way for an engine to consume oil if it's not burned. We already know that oil lost via the one example you tried, the exhaust valve stem seal, IS burned. Care to try another? Steve |
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From Saturn- When and Why to Check Your Oil Oil is the lifeblood of your engine, so it's very important that the proper level and quality of oil be maintained in the engine at all times. Saturn recommends that you check your oil level every time you stop for gas -- this applies to both old and new engines because every engine consumes some amount of oil even under normal conditions. http://www.saturn.com/mysaturn/service/clinicsoil.jhtml My car is using oil. Is this normal? According to our Engineering Department, oil consumption of up to one quart every 2,000 miles should be considered acceptable. If you think your Saturn is consuming oil beyond this parameter, we encourage you to have your servicing Saturn facility conduct an oil consumption test. http://tinyurl.com/iqwm Oh you effing IDIOT!!!! You CAN'T possibly be that dense, can you? CONSUME, idiot....CONSUME!!! WHERE does it say it was BURNED??? Most normal people realize that consume = burn in an internal combustion engine. The oil in a engine is either consumed or it leaks out, nothing else. Tell me DimDummy, are you still growing pot in the house? |
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(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ...
On 4 Aug 2003 04:07:23 -0700, (basskisser) wrote: "Joe" wrote in message ... "basskisser" wrote in message om... (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message Also, your friends at work and a certified Chrysler mechanic friend of yours? Or were you just lying when you said you had friends? Probably. Whatever. We DO have good laughs at your idiotic diatribes! They're laughing AT you, not with you. Really? Yes, really. From Saturn- When and Why to Check Your Oil Oil is the lifeblood of your engine, so it's very important that the proper level and quality of oil be maintained in the engine at all times. Saturn recommends that you check your oil level every time you stop for gas -- this applies to both old and new engines because every engine consumes some amount of oil even under normal conditions. http://www.saturn.com/mysaturn/service/clinicsoil.jhtml My car is using oil. Is this normal? According to our Engineering Department, oil consumption of up to one quart every 2,000 miles should be considered acceptable. If you think your Saturn is consuming oil beyond this parameter, we encourage you to have your servicing Saturn facility conduct an oil consumption test. http://tinyurl.com/iqwm Oh you effing IDIOT!!!! You CAN'T possibly be that dense, can you? CONSUME, idiot....CONSUME!!! WHERE does it say it was BURNED??? Other than leaking oil, which is not normal, you haven't given any other way for an engine to consume oil if it's not burned. We already know that oil lost via the one example you tried, the exhaust valve stem seal, IS burned. Care to try another? Steve Sure, vaporization. Now before you go off half cocked as usual, you need to investigate. |
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Most normal people realize that consume = burn in an internal combustion engine. The oil in a engine is either consumed or it leaks out, nothing else. Tell me DimDummy, are you still growing pot in the house? Why don't you come and see? I'd love to meet you :). Pothead. consume does not in no way equal burn. That is pure stupidity. Ever hear of foaming and vaporization? Nah, didn't think so. And where does that oil go jackass? I'll tell you. It is sucked into the intake through the pcv valve and burned in the combustion chamber. What a moron. |
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On 5 Aug 2003 03:53:38 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:
(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On 4 Aug 2003 04:07:23 -0700, (basskisser) wrote: "Joe" wrote in message ... "basskisser" wrote in message om... (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message Also, your friends at work and a certified Chrysler mechanic friend of yours? Or were you just lying when you said you had friends? Probably. Whatever. We DO have good laughs at your idiotic diatribes! They're laughing AT you, not with you. Really? Yes, really. From Saturn- When and Why to Check Your Oil Oil is the lifeblood of your engine, so it's very important that the proper level and quality of oil be maintained in the engine at all times. Saturn recommends that you check your oil level every time you stop for gas -- this applies to both old and new engines because every engine consumes some amount of oil even under normal conditions. http://www.saturn.com/mysaturn/service/clinicsoil.jhtml My car is using oil. Is this normal? According to our Engineering Department, oil consumption of up to one quart every 2,000 miles should be considered acceptable. If you think your Saturn is consuming oil beyond this parameter, we encourage you to have your servicing Saturn facility conduct an oil consumption test. http://tinyurl.com/iqwm Oh you effing IDIOT!!!! You CAN'T possibly be that dense, can you? CONSUME, idiot....CONSUME!!! WHERE does it say it was BURNED??? Other than leaking oil, which is not normal, you haven't given any other way for an engine to consume oil if it's not burned. We already know that oil lost via the one example you tried, the exhaust valve stem seal, IS burned. Care to try another? Sure, vaporization. Now before you go off half cocked as usual, you need to investigate. Oil that's vaporized ends up being burned when it's sucked back into the intake via the PCV valve or breather. It's been decades since crankcases were open to the atmosphere to let unburned oil vapor escape. So as usual, you're wrong yet again. Care to try once more? Steve P.S., Even if you do open the crankcase to let vapors escape, that still does stop the engine from burning oil in the other ways engine manufacturers agree that all engines burn oil. I.e., left as lubrication on the cylinder walls and escaping from the intake and exhaust valve stems. |
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