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Yo Tim...
....wish I'd seen this video a few years back when I dropped the Mille at a MacDonalds!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyWpIKC_Br8 |
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On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 5:53:59 PM UTC-5, John H wrote:
...wish I'd seen this video a few years back when I dropped the Mille at a MacDonalds! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyWpIKC_Br8 I saw a guy do that once because the kick stand collapsed, so he picked it up just to have it keel over the other side..... |
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On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 16:42:55 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 5:53:59 PM UTC-5, John H wrote: ...wish I'd seen this video a few years back when I dropped the Mille at a MacDonalds! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyWpIKC_Br8 I saw a guy do that once because the kick stand collapsed, so he picked it up just to have it keel over the other side..... I posted a video of that here a while back. Funny as hell, but I think the guy must have been drunk. When I dropped mine, it dropped on the kickstand side. Whoops! |
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5:26 AMJohn H - show quoted text - I posted a video of that here a while back. Funny as hell, but I think the guy must have been drunk. When I dropped mine, it dropped on the kickstand side. Whoops! ..... It happens. This guy went over backwards with his bike too. |
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On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 06:26:32 -0400, John H.
wrote: On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 16:42:55 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 5:53:59 PM UTC-5, John H wrote: ...wish I'd seen this video a few years back when I dropped the Mille at a MacDonalds! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyWpIKC_Br8 I saw a guy do that once because the kick stand collapsed, so he picked it up just to have it keel over the other side..... I posted a video of that here a while back. Funny as hell, but I think the guy must have been drunk. When I dropped mine, it dropped on the kickstand side. Whoops! Harleys have a real bad habit of going over on the kickstand side if you park in the grass. That is why guys carry a little block of wood to put under the kick stand.. |
Yo Tim...
On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 06:26:32 -0400, John H. wrote: - show quoted text - Harleys have a real bad habit of going over on the kickstand side if you park in the grass. That is why guys carry a little block of wood to put under the kick stand.. ........... Maybe be seen a bunch of them unlock and roll fwd. |
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wrote:
On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 06:26:32 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 16:42:55 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 5:53:59 PM UTC-5, John H wrote: ...wish I'd seen this video a few years back when I dropped the Mille at a MacDonalds! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyWpIKC_Br8 I saw a guy do that once because the kick stand collapsed, so he picked it up just to have it keel over the other side..... I posted a video of that here a while back. Funny as hell, but I think the guy must have been drunk. When I dropped mine, it dropped on the kickstand side. Whoops! Harleys have a real bad habit of going over on the kickstand side if you park in the grass. That is why guys carry a little block of wood to put under the kick stand.. We were checking in to a motel in Paso Robles years ago, and the motel owner was proudly showing off and pointing at his new Honda Goldwing out the window. We were watching as the kickstand sunk into the asphalt and the bike went over. Really sad owner. |
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On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 18:32:14 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:
wrote: On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 06:26:32 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 16:42:55 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 5:53:59 PM UTC-5, John H wrote: ...wish I'd seen this video a few years back when I dropped the Mille at a MacDonalds! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyWpIKC_Br8 I saw a guy do that once because the kick stand collapsed, so he picked it up just to have it keel over the other side..... I posted a video of that here a while back. Funny as hell, but I think the guy must have been drunk. When I dropped mine, it dropped on the kickstand side. Whoops! Harleys have a real bad habit of going over on the kickstand side if you park in the grass. That is why guys carry a little block of wood to put under the kick stand.. We were checking in to a motel in Paso Robles years ago, and the motel owner was proudly showing off and pointing at his new Honda Goldwing out the window. We were watching as the kickstand sunk into the asphalt and the bike went over. Really sad owner. Paso Robles! While stationed in LA, I got the opportunity to visit Camp Roberts several times working with the CA National Guard. Lovely spot. Wonder if the nudist beach is still over there by Morro Bay. |
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On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 11:23:54 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 06:26:32 -0400, John H. wrote: - show quoted text - Harleys have a real bad habit of going over on the kickstand side if you park in the grass. That is why guys carry a little block of wood to put under the kick stand.. .......... Maybe be seen a bunch of them unlock and roll fwd. That is why you leave them in gear. |
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On 8/7/2018 1:51 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 06:26:32 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 16:42:55 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 5:53:59 PM UTC-5, John H wrote: ...wish I'd seen this video a few years back when I dropped the Mille at a MacDonalds! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyWpIKC_Br8 I saw a guy do that once because the kick stand collapsed, so he picked it up just to have it keel over the other side..... I posted a video of that here a while back. Funny as hell, but I think the guy must have been drunk. When I dropped mine, it dropped on the kickstand side. Whoops! Harleys have a real bad habit of going over on the kickstand side if you park in the grass. That is why guys carry a little block of wood to put under the kick stand.. Any bike will tip over if the kickstand pushes through soft soil, even my little 150 cc scooter. The scooter gave me the itch though. Bought a used Suzuki C50T to ride (drive?) :-} around on. Decent bike ... not anywhere near as heavy as the last two Harleys that I had. This one weighs in at just about 600 lbs wet. The Harley's were about 900 lbs. It also has a lower CG. |
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On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 19:37:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 8/7/2018 1:51 PM, wrote: On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 06:26:32 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 16:42:55 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 5:53:59 PM UTC-5, John H wrote: ...wish I'd seen this video a few years back when I dropped the Mille at a MacDonalds! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyWpIKC_Br8 I saw a guy do that once because the kick stand collapsed, so he picked it up just to have it keel over the other side..... I posted a video of that here a while back. Funny as hell, but I think the guy must have been drunk. When I dropped mine, it dropped on the kickstand side. Whoops! Harleys have a real bad habit of going over on the kickstand side if you park in the grass. That is why guys carry a little block of wood to put under the kick stand.. Any bike will tip over if the kickstand pushes through soft soil, even my little 150 cc scooter. The scooter gave me the itch though. Bought a used Suzuki C50T to ride (drive?) :-} around on. Decent bike ... not anywhere near as heavy as the last two Harleys that I had. This one weighs in at just about 600 lbs wet. The Harley's were about 900 lbs. It also has a lower CG. Congrats! Looks like a mean machine. Not wild about the style, but I'm just not a cruiser guy. What year, how many miles...got a picture? Should we open up the 'countersteering' discussion again? |
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On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 19:37:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 8/7/2018 1:51 PM, wrote: On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 06:26:32 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 16:42:55 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 5:53:59 PM UTC-5, John H wrote: ...wish I'd seen this video a few years back when I dropped the Mille at a MacDonalds! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyWpIKC_Br8 I saw a guy do that once because the kick stand collapsed, so he picked it up just to have it keel over the other side..... I posted a video of that here a while back. Funny as hell, but I think the guy must have been drunk. When I dropped mine, it dropped on the kickstand side. Whoops! Harleys have a real bad habit of going over on the kickstand side if you park in the grass. That is why guys carry a little block of wood to put under the kick stand.. Any bike will tip over if the kickstand pushes through soft soil, even my little 150 cc scooter. The scooter gave me the itch though. Bought a used Suzuki C50T to ride (drive?) :-} around on. Decent bike ... not anywhere near as heavy as the last two Harleys that I had. This one weighs in at just about 600 lbs wet. The Harley's were about 900 lbs. It also has a lower CG. My superglide was a tad over 700 but some of that factory stuff was gone. It never did have the crash bars, windshield bags etc. |
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On 8/7/2018 7:53 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 19:37:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 8/7/2018 1:51 PM, wrote: On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 06:26:32 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 16:42:55 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 5:53:59 PM UTC-5, John H wrote: ...wish I'd seen this video a few years back when I dropped the Mille at a MacDonalds! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyWpIKC_Br8 I saw a guy do that once because the kick stand collapsed, so he picked it up just to have it keel over the other side..... I posted a video of that here a while back. Funny as hell, but I think the guy must have been drunk. When I dropped mine, it dropped on the kickstand side. Whoops! Harleys have a real bad habit of going over on the kickstand side if you park in the grass. That is why guys carry a little block of wood to put under the kick stand.. Any bike will tip over if the kickstand pushes through soft soil, even my little 150 cc scooter. The scooter gave me the itch though. Bought a used Suzuki C50T to ride (drive?) :-} around on. Decent bike ... not anywhere near as heavy as the last two Harleys that I had. This one weighs in at just about 600 lbs wet. The Harley's were about 900 lbs. It also has a lower CG. Congrats! Looks like a mean machine. Not wild about the style, but I'm just not a cruiser guy. What year, how many miles...got a picture? Should we open up the 'countersteering' discussion again? It's a 2008 with 16,000 miles on it. 805 cc. Not as big and heavy as the two Harley Ultra Classics I had and the biggest thing I noticed right away (besides the lighter weight) was the lower center of gravity. Looks just like the image at the link (below) except it's a metallic charcoal with black trim instead of all black. I also removed the driver backrest which I didn't like. Mrs.E likes it because she can go for rides with me once in a while. My brother has owned an older version of the C50 (2004) and it has been trouble free in the 14 years that he has had it. https://latelifebiker.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/the-black-beauty-med.jpg It doesn't have the "balls" that the Harleys had but it has more than enough for me with my wife on board. Of course the Harley engines were almost twice the size at 1584 cc and my last one was a 6 speed whereas the Suzuki has 5. It's water cooled as well which I like. I really didn't have any intention of buying another motorcycle but the day I went to the dealer to pick up the little scooter I happened to see this one sitting in the shop and it caught my attention. Went home, rode the scooter around for a couple of weeks and decided to go back and try out the Suzuki. They made me a offer that I couldn't refuse so now I have both the scooter and the bike. It's history is kinda funny. It was purchased new in 2008 by a guy in his mid 40's. He recently moved to an apartment in Boston and didn't have a place to easily store it so he traded it in on a scooter identical to the one I bought for commuting in the city. |
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Aug 7Mr. Luddite - show quoted text - Any bike will tip over if the kickstand pushes through soft soil, even my little 150 cc scooter. The scooter gave me the itch though. Bought a used Suzuki C50T to ride (drive?) :-} around on. Decent bike ... not anywhere near as heavy as the last two Harleys that I had. This one weighs in at just about 600 lbs wet. The Harley's were about 900 lbs. It also has a lower CG. ...... Congrats on the C50. My next ride will probably be a 10+ year old Royal Star. In the trader pages, they’re plentiful and cheaper than reasonable. |
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On 8/8/18 7:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/7/2018 7:53 PM, John H. wrote: On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 19:37:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 8/7/2018 1:51 PM, wrote: On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 06:26:32 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 16:42:55 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 5:53:59 PM UTC-5, John H wrote: ...wish I'd seen this video a few years back when I dropped the Mille at a MacDonalds! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyWpIKC_Br8 I saw a guy do that once because the kick stand collapsed, so he picked it up just to have it keel over the other side..... I posted a video of that here a while back. Funny as hell, but I think the guy must have been drunk. When I dropped mine, it dropped on the kickstand side. Whoops! Harleys have a real bad habit of going over on the kickstand side if you park in the grass. That is why guys carry a little block of wood to put under the kick stand.. Any bike will tip over if the kickstand pushes through soft soil, even my little 150 cc scooter. The scooter gave me the itch though.* Bought a used Suzuki C50T to ride (drive?) :-}* around on.* Decent bike ... not anywhere near as heavy as the last two Harleys that I had.* This one weighs in at just about 600 lbs wet.* The Harley's were about 900 lbs.* It also has a lower CG. Congrats! Looks like a mean machine. Not wild about the style, but I'm just not a cruiser guy. What year, how many miles...got a picture? Should we open up the 'countersteering' discussion again? It's a 2008 with 16,000 miles on it.* 805 cc.* Not as big and heavy as the two Harley Ultra Classics I had and the biggest thing I noticed right away (besides the lighter weight) was the lower center of gravity. Looks just like the image at the link (below) except it's a metallic charcoal with black trim instead of all black.* I also removed the driver backrest which I didn't like.* Mrs.E likes it because she can go for rides with me once in a while.** My brother has owned an older version of the C50 (2004) and it has been trouble free in the 14 years that he has had it. https://latelifebiker.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/the-black-beauty-med.jpg It doesn't have the "balls" that the Harleys had but it has more than enough for me with my wife on board.* Of course the Harley engines were almost twice the size at 1584 cc and my last one was a 6 speed whereas the Suzuki has 5.* It's water cooled as well which I like. I really didn't have any intention of buying another motorcycle but the day I went to the dealer to pick up the little scooter I happened to see this one sitting in the shop and it caught my attention.* Went home, rode the scooter around for a couple of weeks and decided to go back and try out the Suzuki.* They made me a offer that I couldn't refuse so now I have both the scooter and the bike. It's history is kinda funny.* It was purchased new in 2008 by a guy in his mid 40's.* He recently moved to an apartment in Boston and didn't have a place to easily store it so he traded it in on a scooter identical to the one I bought for commuting in the city. How does your wife get up on that passenger seat? It looks pretty high up... I had a Mini Cooper S with a smaller engine than the 1584 cc's in your Harley...it was a 1275 cc and I think the entire car weighed about 1300 pounds...four speed tranny. :) |
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On 8/8/2018 8:39 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/8/18 7:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/7/2018 7:53 PM, John H. wrote: On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 19:37:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 8/7/2018 1:51 PM, wrote: On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 06:26:32 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 16:42:55 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 5:53:59 PM UTC-5, John H wrote: ...wish I'd seen this video a few years back when I dropped the Mille at a MacDonalds! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyWpIKC_Br8 I saw a guy do that once because the kick stand collapsed, so he picked it up just to have it keel over the other side..... I posted a video of that here a while back. Funny as hell, but I think the guy must have been drunk. When I dropped mine, it dropped on the kickstand side. Whoops! Harleys have a real bad habit of going over on the kickstand side if you park in the grass. That is why guys carry a little block of wood to put under the kick stand.. Any bike will tip over if the kickstand pushes through soft soil, even my little 150 cc scooter. The scooter gave me the itch though.* Bought a used Suzuki C50T to ride (drive?) :-}* around on.* Decent bike ... not anywhere near as heavy as the last two Harleys that I had.* This one weighs in at just about 600 lbs wet.* The Harley's were about 900 lbs.* It also has a lower CG. Congrats! Looks like a mean machine. Not wild about the style, but I'm just not a cruiser guy. What year, how many miles...got a picture? Should we open up the 'countersteering' discussion again? It's a 2008 with 16,000 miles on it.* 805 cc.* Not as big and heavy as the two Harley Ultra Classics I had and the biggest thing I noticed right away (besides the lighter weight) was the lower center of gravity. Looks just like the image at the link (below) except it's a metallic charcoal with black trim instead of all black.* I also removed the driver backrest which I didn't like.* Mrs.E likes it because she can go for rides with me once in a while.** My brother has owned an older version of the C50 (2004) and it has been trouble free in the 14 years that he has had it. https://latelifebiker.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/the-black-beauty-med.jpg It doesn't have the "balls" that the Harleys had but it has more than enough for me with my wife on board.* Of course the Harley engines were almost twice the size at 1584 cc and my last one was a 6 speed whereas the Suzuki has 5.* It's water cooled as well which I like. I really didn't have any intention of buying another motorcycle but the day I went to the dealer to pick up the little scooter I happened to see this one sitting in the shop and it caught my attention.* Went home, rode the scooter around for a couple of weeks and decided to go back and try out the Suzuki.* They made me a offer that I couldn't refuse so now I have both the scooter and the bike. It's history is kinda funny.* It was purchased new in 2008 by a guy in his mid 40's.* He recently moved to an apartment in Boston and didn't have a place to easily store it so he traded it in on a scooter identical to the one I bought for commuting in the city. How does your wife get up on that passenger seat? It looks pretty high up... I had a Mini Cooper S with a smaller engine than the 1584 cc's in your Harley...it was a 1275 cc and I think the entire car weighed about 1300 pounds...four speed tranny.* :) It's not difficult for her. Like everyone does, I sit on the bike and stabilize it with my legs and feet. She just steps on the passenger foot rest peg and climbs on, swinging her leg over the back rest. Not unlike mounting a horse. :-) The rear seat on this one is actually lower than the rear seat the Ultra Classics had. The Mini Cooper S I had (a 2008) had the 1.6L turbo engine (1600 cc). Six speed manual but weighed considerably more than yours. It was a fun car (made by BMW) but a little too small for longer range driving. It also had an mild but annoying torque steer when you accelerated quickly. I bought it in 2010, drove it around for a year or so but decided to get rid of it before it started needing parts or service. The closest dealership that worked on Mini's was in Boston and I didn't feel like having to drive there just to have service done on it. Not many garages work on them so you are stuck with dealerships for anything other than oil and filter changes. |
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On 8/8/18 9:14 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/8/2018 8:39 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/8/18 7:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/7/2018 7:53 PM, John H. wrote: On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 19:37:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 8/7/2018 1:51 PM, wrote: On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 06:26:32 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 16:42:55 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 5:53:59 PM UTC-5, John H wrote: ...wish I'd seen this video a few years back when I dropped the Mille at a MacDonalds! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyWpIKC_Br8 I saw a guy do that once because the kick stand collapsed, so he picked it up just to have it keel over the other side..... I posted a video of that here a while back. Funny as hell, but I think the guy must have been drunk. When I dropped mine, it dropped on the kickstand side. Whoops! Harleys have a real bad habit of going over on the kickstand side if you park in the grass. That is why guys carry a little block of wood to put under the kick stand.. Any bike will tip over if the kickstand pushes through soft soil, even my little 150 cc scooter. The scooter gave me the itch though.* Bought a used Suzuki C50T to ride (drive?) :-}* around on.* Decent bike ... not anywhere near as heavy as the last two Harleys that I had.* This one weighs in at just about 600 lbs wet.* The Harley's were about 900 lbs.* It also has a lower CG. Congrats! Looks like a mean machine. Not wild about the style, but I'm just not a cruiser guy. What year, how many miles...got a picture? Should we open up the 'countersteering' discussion again? It's a 2008 with 16,000 miles on it.* 805 cc.* Not as big and heavy as the two Harley Ultra Classics I had and the biggest thing I noticed right away (besides the lighter weight) was the lower center of gravity. Looks just like the image at the link (below) except it's a metallic charcoal with black trim instead of all black.* I also removed the driver backrest which I didn't like.* Mrs.E likes it because she can go for rides with me once in a while.** My brother has owned an older version of the C50 (2004) and it has been trouble free in the 14 years that he has had it. https://latelifebiker.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/the-black-beauty-med.jpg It doesn't have the "balls" that the Harleys had but it has more than enough for me with my wife on board.* Of course the Harley engines were almost twice the size at 1584 cc and my last one was a 6 speed whereas the Suzuki has 5.* It's water cooled as well which I like. I really didn't have any intention of buying another motorcycle but the day I went to the dealer to pick up the little scooter I happened to see this one sitting in the shop and it caught my attention.* Went home, rode the scooter around for a couple of weeks and decided to go back and try out the Suzuki.* They made me a offer that I couldn't refuse so now I have both the scooter and the bike. It's history is kinda funny.* It was purchased new in 2008 by a guy in his mid 40's.* He recently moved to an apartment in Boston and didn't have a place to easily store it so he traded it in on a scooter identical to the one I bought for commuting in the city. How does your wife get up on that passenger seat? It looks pretty high up... I had a Mini Cooper S with a smaller engine than the 1584 cc's in your Harley...it was a 1275 cc and I think the entire car weighed about 1300 pounds...four speed tranny.* :) It's not difficult for her.* Like everyone does, I sit on the bike and stabilize it with my legs and feet.* She just steps on the passenger foot rest peg and climbs on, swinging her leg over the back rest.* Not unlike mounting a horse.* :-) The rear seat on this one is actually lower than the rear seat the Ultra Classics had. The Mini Cooper S* I had (a 2008) had the 1.6L turbo engine (1600 cc). Six speed manual but weighed considerably more than yours.** It was a fun car (made by BMW) but a little too small for longer range driving. It also had an mild but annoying torque steer when you accelerated quickly.* I bought it in 2010, drove it around for a year or so but decided to get rid of it before it started needing parts or service.* The closest dealership that worked on Mini's was in Boston and I didn't feel like having to drive there just to have service done on it.** Not many garages work on them so you are stuck with dealerships for anything other than oil and filter changes. The BMC dealer in KC handled Minis in the 1960s, when I had mine. MGs. Healeys, Minis...et cetera. Mine had pull cords in the doors instead of door handles on the inside. It was a pretty simple and sturdy little car. |
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On 8/8/2018 9:24 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/8/18 9:14 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/8/2018 8:39 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/8/18 7:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/7/2018 7:53 PM, John H. wrote: On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 19:37:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 8/7/2018 1:51 PM, wrote: On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 06:26:32 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 16:42:55 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 5:53:59 PM UTC-5, John H wrote: ...wish I'd seen this video a few years back when I dropped the Mille at a MacDonalds! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyWpIKC_Br8 I saw a guy do that once because the kick stand collapsed, so he picked it up just to have it keel over the other side..... I posted a video of that here a while back. Funny as hell, but I think the guy must have been drunk. When I dropped mine, it dropped on the kickstand side. Whoops! Harleys have a real bad habit of going over on the kickstand side if you park in the grass. That is why guys carry a little block of wood to put under the kick stand.. Any bike will tip over if the kickstand pushes through soft soil, even my little 150 cc scooter. The scooter gave me the itch though.* Bought a used Suzuki C50T to ride (drive?) :-}* around on.* Decent bike ... not anywhere near as heavy as the last two Harleys that I had.* This one weighs in at just about 600 lbs wet.* The Harley's were about 900 lbs.* It also has a lower CG. Congrats! Looks like a mean machine. Not wild about the style, but I'm just not a cruiser guy. What year, how many miles...got a picture? Should we open up the 'countersteering' discussion again? It's a 2008 with 16,000 miles on it.* 805 cc.* Not as big and heavy as the two Harley Ultra Classics I had and the biggest thing I noticed right away (besides the lighter weight) was the lower center of gravity. Looks just like the image at the link (below) except it's a metallic charcoal with black trim instead of all black.* I also removed the driver backrest which I didn't like.* Mrs.E likes it because she can go for rides with me once in a while.** My brother has owned an older version of the C50 (2004) and it has been trouble free in the 14 years that he has had it. https://latelifebiker.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/the-black-beauty-med.jpg It doesn't have the "balls" that the Harleys had but it has more than enough for me with my wife on board.* Of course the Harley engines were almost twice the size at 1584 cc and my last one was a 6 speed whereas the Suzuki has 5.* It's water cooled as well which I like. I really didn't have any intention of buying another motorcycle but the day I went to the dealer to pick up the little scooter I happened to see this one sitting in the shop and it caught my attention.* Went home, rode the scooter around for a couple of weeks and decided to go back and try out the Suzuki.* They made me a offer that I couldn't refuse so now I have both the scooter and the bike. It's history is kinda funny.* It was purchased new in 2008 by a guy in his mid 40's.* He recently moved to an apartment in Boston and didn't have a place to easily store it so he traded it in on a scooter identical to the one I bought for commuting in the city. How does your wife get up on that passenger seat? It looks pretty high up... I had a Mini Cooper S with a smaller engine than the 1584 cc's in your Harley...it was a 1275 cc and I think the entire car weighed about 1300 pounds...four speed tranny.* :) It's not difficult for her.* Like everyone does, I sit on the bike and stabilize it with my legs and feet.* She just steps on the passenger foot rest peg and climbs on, swinging her leg over the back rest.* Not unlike mounting a horse.* :-) The rear seat on this one is actually lower than the rear seat the Ultra Classics had. The Mini Cooper S* I had (a 2008) had the 1.6L turbo engine (1600 cc). Six speed manual but weighed considerably more than yours.** It was a fun car (made by BMW) but a little too small for longer range driving. It also had an mild but annoying torque steer when you accelerated quickly.* I bought it in 2010, drove it around for a year or so but decided to get rid of it before it started needing parts or service.* The closest dealership that worked on Mini's was in Boston and I didn't feel like having to drive there just to have service done on it.** Not many garages work on them so you are stuck with dealerships for anything other than oil and filter changes. The BMC dealer in KC handled Minis in the 1960s, when I had mine. MGs. Healeys, Minis...et cetera. Mine had pull cords in the doors instead of door handles on the inside. It was a pretty simple and sturdy little car. The original Mini Cooper is cool but it's a death trap, especially for rear seat passengers, much like the original split window VW buses were for the driver and front seat passenger. Vehicles like them could never be produced today. I had a '65 split window VW bus for a while. Looked good but it needed more work to the suspension than I was interested in having done. A car/motorcycle nut guy saw it, wanted to buy it but ended up trading a fully restored 1974 Norton 850 Commando for it. I had ridden a Norton 750 Commando earlier in my past but quickly realized that a Norton is a young man's motorcycle, not for a middle aged plus old fart like me. Plus, having the rear brake on the left side and the shifter on the right was too confusing, being used to Harley's at the time. |
Yo Tim...
On Wednesday, August 8, 2018 at 9:47:43 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/8/2018 9:24 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/8/18 9:14 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/8/2018 8:39 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/8/18 7:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/7/2018 7:53 PM, John H. wrote: On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 19:37:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 8/7/2018 1:51 PM, wrote: On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 06:26:32 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 16:42:55 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 5:53:59 PM UTC-5, John H wrote: ...wish I'd seen this video a few years back when I dropped the Mille at a MacDonalds! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyWpIKC_Br8 I saw a guy do that once because the kick stand collapsed, so he picked it up just to have it keel over the other side..... I posted a video of that here a while back. Funny as hell, but I think the guy must have been drunk. When I dropped mine, it dropped on the kickstand side. Whoops! Harleys have a real bad habit of going over on the kickstand side if you park in the grass. That is why guys carry a little block of wood to put under the kick stand.. Any bike will tip over if the kickstand pushes through soft soil, even my little 150 cc scooter. The scooter gave me the itch though.* Bought a used Suzuki C50T to ride (drive?) :-}* around on.* Decent bike ... not anywhere near as heavy as the last two Harleys that I had.* This one weighs in at just about 600 lbs wet.* The Harley's were about 900 lbs.* It also has a lower CG. Congrats! Looks like a mean machine. Not wild about the style, but I'm just not a cruiser guy. What year, how many miles...got a picture? Should we open up the 'countersteering' discussion again? It's a 2008 with 16,000 miles on it.* 805 cc.* Not as big and heavy as the two Harley Ultra Classics I had and the biggest thing I noticed right away (besides the lighter weight) was the lower center of gravity. Looks just like the image at the link (below) except it's a metallic charcoal with black trim instead of all black.* I also removed the driver backrest which I didn't like.* Mrs.E likes it because she can go for rides with me once in a while.** My brother has owned an older version of the C50 (2004) and it has been trouble free in the 14 years that he has had it. https://latelifebiker.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/the-black-beauty-med.jpg It doesn't have the "balls" that the Harleys had but it has more than enough for me with my wife on board.* Of course the Harley engines were almost twice the size at 1584 cc and my last one was a 6 speed whereas the Suzuki has 5.* It's water cooled as well which I like. I really didn't have any intention of buying another motorcycle but the day I went to the dealer to pick up the little scooter I happened to see this one sitting in the shop and it caught my attention.* Went home, rode the scooter around for a couple of weeks and decided to go back and try out the Suzuki.* They made me a offer that I couldn't refuse so now I have both the scooter and the bike. It's history is kinda funny.* It was purchased new in 2008 by a guy in his mid 40's.* He recently moved to an apartment in Boston and didn't have a place to easily store it so he traded it in on a scooter identical to the one I bought for commuting in the city. How does your wife get up on that passenger seat? It looks pretty high up... I had a Mini Cooper S with a smaller engine than the 1584 cc's in your Harley...it was a 1275 cc and I think the entire car weighed about 1300 pounds...four speed tranny.* :) It's not difficult for her.* Like everyone does, I sit on the bike and stabilize it with my legs and feet.* She just steps on the passenger foot rest peg and climbs on, swinging her leg over the back rest.* Not unlike mounting a horse.* :-) The rear seat on this one is actually lower than the rear seat the Ultra Classics had. The Mini Cooper S* I had (a 2008) had the 1.6L turbo engine (1600 cc). Six speed manual but weighed considerably more than yours.** It was a fun car (made by BMW) but a little too small for longer range driving. It also had an mild but annoying torque steer when you accelerated quickly.* I bought it in 2010, drove it around for a year or so but decided to get rid of it before it started needing parts or service.* The closest dealership that worked on Mini's was in Boston and I didn't feel like having to drive there just to have service done on it.** Not many garages work on them so you are stuck with dealerships for anything other than oil and filter changes. The BMC dealer in KC handled Minis in the 1960s, when I had mine. MGs. Healeys, Minis...et cetera. Mine had pull cords in the doors instead of door handles on the inside. It was a pretty simple and sturdy little car. |
Yo Tim...
On Wednesday, 8 August 2018 09:39:44 UTC-3, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/8/18 7:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/7/2018 7:53 PM, John H. wrote: On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 19:37:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 8/7/2018 1:51 PM, wrote: On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 06:26:32 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 16:42:55 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 5:53:59 PM UTC-5, John H wrote: ...wish I'd seen this video a few years back when I dropped the Mille at a MacDonalds! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyWpIKC_Br8 I saw a guy do that once because the kick stand collapsed, so he picked it up just to have it keel over the other side..... I posted a video of that here a while back. Funny as hell, but I think the guy must have been drunk. When I dropped mine, it dropped on the kickstand side. Whoops! Harleys have a real bad habit of going over on the kickstand side if you park in the grass. That is why guys carry a little block of wood to put under the kick stand.. Any bike will tip over if the kickstand pushes through soft soil, even my little 150 cc scooter. The scooter gave me the itch though.* Bought a used Suzuki C50T to ride (drive?) :-}* around on.* Decent bike ... not anywhere near as heavy as the last two Harleys that I had.* This one weighs in at just about 600 lbs wet.* The Harley's were about 900 lbs.* It also has a lower CG. Congrats! Looks like a mean machine. Not wild about the style, but I'm just not a cruiser guy. What year, how many miles...got a picture? Should we open up the 'countersteering' discussion again? It's a 2008 with 16,000 miles on it.* 805 cc.* Not as big and heavy as the two Harley Ultra Classics I had and the biggest thing I noticed right away (besides the lighter weight) was the lower center of gravity.. Looks just like the image at the link (below) except it's a metallic charcoal with black trim instead of all black.* I also removed the driver backrest which I didn't like.* Mrs.E likes it because she can go for rides with me once in a while.** My brother has owned an older version of the C50 (2004) and it has been trouble free in the 14 years that he has had it. https://latelifebiker.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/the-black-beauty-med..jpg It doesn't have the "balls" that the Harleys had but it has more than enough for me with my wife on board.* Of course the Harley engines were almost twice the size at 1584 cc and my last one was a 6 speed whereas the Suzuki has 5.* It's water cooled as well which I like. I really didn't have any intention of buying another motorcycle but the day I went to the dealer to pick up the little scooter I happened to see this one sitting in the shop and it caught my attention.* Went home, rode the scooter around for a couple of weeks and decided to go back and try out the Suzuki.* They made me a offer that I couldn't refuse so now I have both the scooter and the bike. It's history is kinda funny.* It was purchased new in 2008 by a guy in his mid 40's.* He recently moved to an apartment in Boston and didn't have a place to easily store it so he traded it in on a scooter identical to the one I bought for commuting in the city. How does your wife get up on that passenger seat? It looks pretty high up.... I had a Mini Cooper S with a smaller engine than the 1584 cc's in your Harley...it was a 1275 cc and I think the entire car weighed about 1300 pounds...four speed tranny. :) My first car was a 1962 Morris 850 Station Wagon. Yes...it had an 850 cc engine. |
Yo Tim...
8:47 AMMr. Luddite - show quoted text - The original Mini Cooper is cool but it's a death trap, especially for rear seat passengers, much like the original split window VW buses were for the driver and front seat passenger. Vehicles like them could never be produced today. I had a '65 split window VW bus for a while. Looked good but it needed more work to the suspension than I was interested in having done. A car/motorcycle nut guy saw it, wanted to buy it but ended up trading a fully restored 1974 Norton 850 Commando for it. I had ridden a Norton 750 Commando earlier in my past but quickly realized that a Norton is a young man's motorcycle, not for a middle aged plus old fart like me. Plus, having the rear brake on the left side and the shifter on the right was too confusing, being used to Harley's at the time. ....... I remember your norton. When I found out it was up for grabs it was too late. I would have ridden it home. I have a ‘74 Triumph 500 so I’m used to the shift/brake layout. What’s fun in the old Guzzi v7 ambassador which was standard layout but shift was one up, three down.... hmmm |
Yo Tim...
On 8/8/2018 10:44 AM, Its Me wrote:
On Wednesday, August 8, 2018 at 9:47:43 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/8/2018 9:24 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/8/18 9:14 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/8/2018 8:39 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/8/18 7:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/7/2018 7:53 PM, John H. wrote: On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 19:37:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 8/7/2018 1:51 PM, wrote: On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 06:26:32 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 16:42:55 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 5:53:59 PM UTC-5, John H wrote: ...wish I'd seen this video a few years back when I dropped the Mille at a MacDonalds! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyWpIKC_Br8 I saw a guy do that once because the kick stand collapsed, so he picked it up just to have it keel over the other side..... I posted a video of that here a while back. Funny as hell, but I think the guy must have been drunk. When I dropped mine, it dropped on the kickstand side. Whoops! Harleys have a real bad habit of going over on the kickstand side if you park in the grass. That is why guys carry a little block of wood to put under the kick stand.. Any bike will tip over if the kickstand pushes through soft soil, even my little 150 cc scooter. The scooter gave me the itch though.* Bought a used Suzuki C50T to ride (drive?) :-}* around on.* Decent bike ... not anywhere near as heavy as the last two Harleys that I had.* This one weighs in at just about 600 lbs wet.* The Harley's were about 900 lbs.* It also has a lower CG. Congrats! Looks like a mean machine. Not wild about the style, but I'm just not a cruiser guy. What year, how many miles...got a picture? Should we open up the 'countersteering' discussion again? It's a 2008 with 16,000 miles on it.* 805 cc.* Not as big and heavy as the two Harley Ultra Classics I had and the biggest thing I noticed right away (besides the lighter weight) was the lower center of gravity. Looks just like the image at the link (below) except it's a metallic charcoal with black trim instead of all black.* I also removed the driver backrest which I didn't like.* Mrs.E likes it because she can go for rides with me once in a while.** My brother has owned an older version of the C50 (2004) and it has been trouble free in the 14 years that he has had it. https://latelifebiker.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/the-black-beauty-med.jpg It doesn't have the "balls" that the Harleys had but it has more than enough for me with my wife on board.* Of course the Harley engines were almost twice the size at 1584 cc and my last one was a 6 speed whereas the Suzuki has 5.* It's water cooled as well which I like. I really didn't have any intention of buying another motorcycle but the day I went to the dealer to pick up the little scooter I happened to see this one sitting in the shop and it caught my attention.* Went home, rode the scooter around for a couple of weeks and decided to go back and try out the Suzuki.* They made me a offer that I couldn't refuse so now I have both the scooter and the bike. It's history is kinda funny.* It was purchased new in 2008 by a guy in his mid 40's.* He recently moved to an apartment in Boston and didn't have a place to easily store it so he traded it in on a scooter identical to the one I bought for commuting in the city. How does your wife get up on that passenger seat? It looks pretty high up... I had a Mini Cooper S with a smaller engine than the 1584 cc's in your Harley...it was a 1275 cc and I think the entire car weighed about 1300 pounds...four speed tranny.* :) It's not difficult for her.* Like everyone does, I sit on the bike and stabilize it with my legs and feet.* She just steps on the passenger foot rest peg and climbs on, swinging her leg over the back rest.* Not unlike mounting a horse.* :-) The rear seat on this one is actually lower than the rear seat the Ultra Classics had. The Mini Cooper S* I had (a 2008) had the 1.6L turbo engine (1600 cc). Six speed manual but weighed considerably more than yours.** It was a fun car (made by BMW) but a little too small for longer range driving. It also had an mild but annoying torque steer when you accelerated quickly.* I bought it in 2010, drove it around for a year or so but decided to get rid of it before it started needing parts or service.* The closest dealership that worked on Mini's was in Boston and I didn't feel like having to drive there just to have service done on it.** Not many garages work on them so you are stuck with dealerships for anything other than oil and filter changes. The BMC dealer in KC handled Minis in the 1960s, when I had mine. MGs. Healeys, Minis...et cetera. Mine had pull cords in the doors instead of door handles on the inside. It was a pretty simple and sturdy little car. The original Mini Cooper is cool but it's a death trap, especially for rear seat passengers, much like the original split window VW buses were for the driver and front seat passenger. Vehicles like them could never be produced today. I had a lady coworker ask me about older muscle cars. Her son was going to get his licence soon, and wanted to get a 60's to 70's "muscle car" to drive. My advice to her was get him a late model Corolla or similar. That old car wouldn't have ABS, airbags, crumple zones, door beams, etc. Maybe not even shoulder belts. Plus the brakes and handling aren't very good unless you do some resto-modding. I like my old Torino, but I also respect it and its shortcomings. No way a 17 year old should be driving something like that for a daily. No question. The classics are stylish (something new cars lack) but they don't come close to the handling and safety of new cars. Plus, the "muscle" car is a bit of a misnomer today. The old rule of "there's no replacement for displacement" really doesn't apply anymore. Some of the new cars with small, turbocharged engines can out perform some of the old muscle cars of yesterday. That said though, the low RPM torque of a GM 454 ci engine and some of the Ford and MOPAR big blocks just has to be experienced to appreciate. |
Yo Tim...
On 8/8/2018 10:48 AM, Tim wrote:
8:47 AMMr. Luddite - show quoted text - The original Mini Cooper is cool but it's a death trap, especially for rear seat passengers, much like the original split window VW buses were for the driver and front seat passenger. Vehicles like them could never be produced today. I had a '65 split window VW bus for a while. Looked good but it needed more work to the suspension than I was interested in having done. A car/motorcycle nut guy saw it, wanted to buy it but ended up trading a fully restored 1974 Norton 850 Commando for it. I had ridden a Norton 750 Commando earlier in my past but quickly realized that a Norton is a young man's motorcycle, not for a middle aged plus old fart like me. Plus, having the rear brake on the left side and the shifter on the right was too confusing, being used to Harley's at the time. ...... I remember your norton. When I found out it was up for grabs it was too late. I would have ridden it home. I have a ‘74 Triumph 500 so I’m used to the shift/brake layout. What’s fun in the old Guzzi v7 ambassador which was standard layout but shift was one up, three down.... hmmm The '74 Norton shifted that way ... first was all the way up and then down for the rest. That was another thing to get used to, unlike the Harley I had at the same time. I think in 1975 Norton was forced to adopt the left foot shift, right foot rear brake setup in order to continue selling bikes in the USA. |
Yo Tim...
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/8/2018 10:44 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, August 8, 2018 at 9:47:43 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/8/2018 9:24 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/8/18 9:14 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/8/2018 8:39 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/8/18 7:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/7/2018 7:53 PM, John H. wrote: On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 19:37:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 8/7/2018 1:51 PM, wrote: On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 06:26:32 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 16:42:55 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 5:53:59 PM UTC-5, John H wrote: ...wish I'd seen this video a few years back when I dropped the Mille at a MacDonalds! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyWpIKC_Br8 I saw a guy do that once because the kick stand collapsed, so he picked it up just to have it keel over the other side..... I posted a video of that here a while back. Funny as hell, but I think the guy must have been drunk. When I dropped mine, it dropped on the kickstand side. Whoops! Harleys have a real bad habit of going over on the kickstand side if you park in the grass. That is why guys carry a little block of wood to put under the kick stand.. Any bike will tip over if the kickstand pushes through soft soil, even my little 150 cc scooter. The scooter gave me the itch though.* Bought a used Suzuki C50T to ride (drive?) :-}* around on.* Decent bike ... not anywhere near as heavy as the last two Harleys that I had.* This one weighs in at just about 600 lbs wet.* The Harley's were about 900 lbs.* It also has a lower CG. Congrats! Looks like a mean machine. Not wild about the style, but I'm just not a cruiser guy. What year, how many miles...got a picture? Should we open up the 'countersteering' discussion again? It's a 2008 with 16,000 miles on it.* 805 cc.* Not as big and heavy as the two Harley Ultra Classics I had and the biggest thing I noticed right away (besides the lighter weight) was the lower center of gravity. Looks just like the image at the link (below) except it's a metallic charcoal with black trim instead of all black.* I also removed the driver backrest which I didn't like.* Mrs.E likes it because she can go for rides with me once in a while.** My brother has owned an older version of the C50 (2004) and it has been trouble free in the 14 years that he has had it. https://latelifebiker.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/the-black-beauty-med.jpg It doesn't have the "balls" that the Harleys had but it has more than enough for me with my wife on board.* Of course the Harley engines were almost twice the size at 1584 cc and my last one was a 6 speed whereas the Suzuki has 5.* It's water cooled as well which I like. I really didn't have any intention of buying another motorcycle but the day I went to the dealer to pick up the little scooter I happened to see this one sitting in the shop and it caught my attention.* Went home, rode the scooter around for a couple of weeks and decided to go back and try out the Suzuki.* They made me a offer that I couldn't refuse so now I have both the scooter and the bike. It's history is kinda funny.* It was purchased new in 2008 by a guy in his mid 40's.* He recently moved to an apartment in Boston and didn't have a place to easily store it so he traded it in on a scooter identical to the one I bought for commuting in the city. How does your wife get up on that passenger seat? It looks pretty high up... I had a Mini Cooper S with a smaller engine than the 1584 cc's in your Harley...it was a 1275 cc and I think the entire car weighed about 1300 pounds...four speed tranny.* :) It's not difficult for her.* Like everyone does, I sit on the bike and stabilize it with my legs and feet.* She just steps on the passenger foot rest peg and climbs on, swinging her leg over the back rest.* Not unlike mounting a horse.* :-) The rear seat on this one is actually lower than the rear seat the Ultra Classics had. The Mini Cooper S* I had (a 2008) had the 1.6L turbo engine (1600 cc). Six speed manual but weighed considerably more than yours.** It was a fun car (made by BMW) but a little too small for longer range driving. It also had an mild but annoying torque steer when you accelerated quickly.* I bought it in 2010, drove it around for a year or so but decided to get rid of it before it started needing parts or service.* The closest dealership that worked on Mini's was in Boston and I didn't feel like having to drive there just to have service done on it.** Not many garages work on them so you are stuck with dealerships for anything other than oil and filter changes. The BMC dealer in KC handled Minis in the 1960s, when I had mine. MGs. Healeys, Minis...et cetera. Mine had pull cords in the doors instead of door handles on the inside. It was a pretty simple and sturdy little car. The original Mini Cooper is cool but it's a death trap, especially for rear seat passengers, much like the original split window VW buses were for the driver and front seat passenger. Vehicles like them could never be produced today. I had a lady coworker ask me about older muscle cars. Her son was going to get his licence soon, and wanted to get a 60's to 70's "muscle car" to drive. My advice to her was get him a late model Corolla or similar. That old car wouldn't have ABS, airbags, crumple zones, door beams, etc. Maybe not even shoulder belts. Plus the brakes and handling aren't very good unless you do some resto-modding. I like my old Torino, but I also respect it and its shortcomings. No way a 17 year old should be driving something like that for a daily. No question. The classics are stylish (something new cars lack) but they don't come close to the handling and safety of new cars. Plus, the "muscle" car is a bit of a misnomer today. The old rule of "there's no replacement for displacement" really doesn't apply anymore. Some of the new cars with small, turbocharged engines can out perform some of the old muscle cars of yesterday. That said though, the low RPM torque of a GM 454 ci engine and some of the Ford and MOPAR big blocks just has to be experienced to appreciate. The new “muscle”cars are impressive. On our latest trip, had a rear tire blowout on the truck. AAA driver could not get the spare down. So while waiting for another tow guy, Montana highway patrol guy waited with us. They drive Chargers. He said the last one he had up to 155 mph, but was a 2 wheel drive. Present Charger was also fast but 4x4 car. |
Yo Tim...
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/8/2018 8:39 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/8/18 7:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/7/2018 7:53 PM, John H. wrote: On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 19:37:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 8/7/2018 1:51 PM, wrote: On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 06:26:32 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 16:42:55 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 5:53:59 PM UTC-5, John H wrote: ...wish I'd seen this video a few years back when I dropped the Mille at a MacDonalds! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyWpIKC_Br8 I saw a guy do that once because the kick stand collapsed, so he picked it up just to have it keel over the other side..... I posted a video of that here a while back. Funny as hell, but I think the guy must have been drunk. When I dropped mine, it dropped on the kickstand side. Whoops! Harleys have a real bad habit of going over on the kickstand side if you park in the grass. That is why guys carry a little block of wood to put under the kick stand.. Any bike will tip over if the kickstand pushes through soft soil, even my little 150 cc scooter. The scooter gave me the itch though.* Bought a used Suzuki C50T to ride (drive?) :-}* around on.* Decent bike ... not anywhere near as heavy as the last two Harleys that I had.* This one weighs in at just about 600 lbs wet.* The Harley's were about 900 lbs.* It also has a lower CG. Congrats! Looks like a mean machine. Not wild about the style, but I'm just not a cruiser guy. What year, how many miles...got a picture? Should we open up the 'countersteering' discussion again? It's a 2008 with 16,000 miles on it.* 805 cc.* Not as big and heavy as the two Harley Ultra Classics I had and the biggest thing I noticed right away (besides the lighter weight) was the lower center of gravity. Looks just like the image at the link (below) except it's a metallic charcoal with black trim instead of all black.* I also removed the driver backrest which I didn't like.* Mrs.E likes it because she can go for rides with me once in a while.** My brother has owned an older version of the C50 (2004) and it has been trouble free in the 14 years that he has had it. https://latelifebiker.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/the-black-beauty-med.jpg It doesn't have the "balls" that the Harleys had but it has more than enough for me with my wife on board.* Of course the Harley engines were almost twice the size at 1584 cc and my last one was a 6 speed whereas the Suzuki has 5.* It's water cooled as well which I like. I really didn't have any intention of buying another motorcycle but the day I went to the dealer to pick up the little scooter I happened to see this one sitting in the shop and it caught my attention.* Went home, rode the scooter around for a couple of weeks and decided to go back and try out the Suzuki.* They made me a offer that I couldn't refuse so now I have both the scooter and the bike. It's history is kinda funny.* It was purchased new in 2008 by a guy in his mid 40's.* He recently moved to an apartment in Boston and didn't have a place to easily store it so he traded it in on a scooter identical to the one I bought for commuting in the city. How does your wife get up on that passenger seat? It looks pretty high up... I had a Mini Cooper S with a smaller engine than the 1584 cc's in your Harley...it was a 1275 cc and I think the entire car weighed about 1300 pounds...four speed tranny.* :) It's not difficult for her. Like everyone does, I sit on the bike and stabilize it with my legs and feet. She just steps on the passenger foot rest peg and climbs on, swinging her leg over the back rest. Not unlike mounting a horse. :-) The rear seat on this one is actually lower than the rear seat the Ultra Classics had. The Mini Cooper S I had (a 2008) had the 1.6L turbo engine (1600 cc). Six speed manual but weighed considerably more than yours. It was a fun car (made by BMW) but a little too small for longer range driving. It also had an mild but annoying torque steer when you accelerated quickly. I bought it in 2010, drove it around for a year or so but decided to get rid of it before it started needing parts or service. The closest dealership that worked on Mini's was in Boston and I didn't feel like having to drive there just to have service done on it. Not many garages work on them so you are stuck with dealerships for anything other than oil and filter changes. Hey seem to be a 50,000 mile disposable vehicle from what I read. Loved the original Mini Cooper S. Back in he 60’s a guy and his wife both raced Minis in SCCA here. She was really good. Later they divorced and she went to work for McLaren Racing in England. Married one of the guys and moved back near here. Really cute gal. Unfortunately Cancer got here. |
Yo Tim...
On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 07:07:31 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 8/7/2018 7:53 PM, John H. wrote: On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 19:37:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 8/7/2018 1:51 PM, wrote: On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 06:26:32 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 16:42:55 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 5:53:59 PM UTC-5, John H wrote: ...wish I'd seen this video a few years back when I dropped the Mille at a MacDonalds! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyWpIKC_Br8 I saw a guy do that once because the kick stand collapsed, so he picked it up just to have it keel over the other side..... I posted a video of that here a while back. Funny as hell, but I think the guy must have been drunk. When I dropped mine, it dropped on the kickstand side. Whoops! Harleys have a real bad habit of going over on the kickstand side if you park in the grass. That is why guys carry a little block of wood to put under the kick stand.. Any bike will tip over if the kickstand pushes through soft soil, even my little 150 cc scooter. The scooter gave me the itch though. Bought a used Suzuki C50T to ride (drive?) :-} around on. Decent bike ... not anywhere near as heavy as the last two Harleys that I had. This one weighs in at just about 600 lbs wet. The Harley's were about 900 lbs. It also has a lower CG. Congrats! Looks like a mean machine. Not wild about the style, but I'm just not a cruiser guy. What year, how many miles...got a picture? Should we open up the 'countersteering' discussion again? It's a 2008 with 16,000 miles on it. 805 cc. Not as big and heavy as the two Harley Ultra Classics I had and the biggest thing I noticed right away (besides the lighter weight) was the lower center of gravity. Looks just like the image at the link (below) except it's a metallic charcoal with black trim instead of all black. I also removed the driver backrest which I didn't like. Mrs.E likes it because she can go for rides with me once in a while. My brother has owned an older version of the C50 (2004) and it has been trouble free in the 14 years that he has had it. https://latelifebiker.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/the-black-beauty-med.jpg It doesn't have the "balls" that the Harleys had but it has more than enough for me with my wife on board. Of course the Harley engines were almost twice the size at 1584 cc and my last one was a 6 speed whereas the Suzuki has 5. It's water cooled as well which I like. I really didn't have any intention of buying another motorcycle but the day I went to the dealer to pick up the little scooter I happened to see this one sitting in the shop and it caught my attention. Went home, rode the scooter around for a couple of weeks and decided to go back and try out the Suzuki. They made me a offer that I couldn't refuse so now I have both the scooter and the bike. It's history is kinda funny. It was purchased new in 2008 by a guy in his mid 40's. He recently moved to an apartment in Boston and didn't have a place to easily store it so he traded it in on a scooter identical to the one I bought for commuting in the city. Cool, thanks. Good luck with it. |
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On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 08:39:41 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/8/18 7:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/7/2018 7:53 PM, John H. wrote: On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 19:37:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 8/7/2018 1:51 PM, wrote: On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 06:26:32 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 16:42:55 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 5:53:59 PM UTC-5, John H wrote: ...wish I'd seen this video a few years back when I dropped the Mille at a MacDonalds! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyWpIKC_Br8 I saw a guy do that once because the kick stand collapsed, so he picked it up just to have it keel over the other side..... I posted a video of that here a while back. Funny as hell, but I think the guy must have been drunk. When I dropped mine, it dropped on the kickstand side. Whoops! Harleys have a real bad habit of going over on the kickstand side if you park in the grass. That is why guys carry a little block of wood to put under the kick stand.. Any bike will tip over if the kickstand pushes through soft soil, even my little 150 cc scooter. The scooter gave me the itch though.* Bought a used Suzuki C50T to ride (drive?) :-}* around on.* Decent bike ... not anywhere near as heavy as the last two Harleys that I had.* This one weighs in at just about 600 lbs wet.* The Harley's were about 900 lbs.* It also has a lower CG. Congrats! Looks like a mean machine. Not wild about the style, but I'm just not a cruiser guy. What year, how many miles...got a picture? Should we open up the 'countersteering' discussion again? It's a 2008 with 16,000 miles on it.* 805 cc.* Not as big and heavy as the two Harley Ultra Classics I had and the biggest thing I noticed right away (besides the lighter weight) was the lower center of gravity. Looks just like the image at the link (below) except it's a metallic charcoal with black trim instead of all black.* I also removed the driver backrest which I didn't like.* Mrs.E likes it because she can go for rides with me once in a while.** My brother has owned an older version of the C50 (2004) and it has been trouble free in the 14 years that he has had it. https://latelifebiker.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/the-black-beauty-med.jpg It doesn't have the "balls" that the Harleys had but it has more than enough for me with my wife on board.* Of course the Harley engines were almost twice the size at 1584 cc and my last one was a 6 speed whereas the Suzuki has 5.* It's water cooled as well which I like. I really didn't have any intention of buying another motorcycle but the day I went to the dealer to pick up the little scooter I happened to see this one sitting in the shop and it caught my attention.* Went home, rode the scooter around for a couple of weeks and decided to go back and try out the Suzuki.* They made me a offer that I couldn't refuse so now I have both the scooter and the bike. It's history is kinda funny.* It was purchased new in 2008 by a guy in his mid 40's.* He recently moved to an apartment in Boston and didn't have a place to easily store it so he traded it in on a scooter identical to the one I bought for commuting in the city. How does your wife get up on that passenger seat? It looks pretty high up... I had a Mini Cooper S with a smaller engine than the 1584 cc's in your Harley...it was a 1275 cc and I think the entire car weighed about 1300 pounds...four speed tranny. :) Passenger foot rest. Don't Ducatis have them? |
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On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 10:58:37 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: I had a lady coworker ask me about older muscle cars. Her son was going to get his licence soon, and wanted to get a 60's to 70's "muscle car" to drive. My advice to her was get him a late model Corolla or similar. That old car wouldn't have ABS, airbags, crumple zones, door beams, etc. Maybe not even shoulder belts. Plus the brakes and handling aren't very good unless you do some resto-modding. I like my old Torino, but I also respect it and its shortcomings. No way a 17 year old should be driving something like that for a daily. No question. The classics are stylish (something new cars lack) but they don't come close to the handling and safety of new cars. Plus, the "muscle" car is a bit of a misnomer today. The old rule of "there's no replacement for displacement" really doesn't apply anymore. Some of the new cars with small, turbocharged engines can out perform some of the old muscle cars of yesterday. That said though, the low RPM torque of a GM 454 ci engine and some of the Ford and MOPAR big blocks just has to be experienced to appreciate. No doubt about that. If I hit the lotto and decided I wanted an old 60s car, the first thing I would do is drop a brand new "box motor" in it. Judy really wants a 50s pickup truck but she wants the sheet metal dropped down on a new Lincoln chassis. ;-) |
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On Wednesday, August 8, 2018 at 1:57:26 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 10:58:37 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I had a lady coworker ask me about older muscle cars. Her son was going to get his licence soon, and wanted to get a 60's to 70's "muscle car" to drive. My advice to her was get him a late model Corolla or similar. That old car wouldn't have ABS, airbags, crumple zones, door beams, etc. Maybe not even shoulder belts. Plus the brakes and handling aren't very good unless you do some resto-modding. I like my old Torino, but I also respect it and its shortcomings. No way a 17 year old should be driving something like that for a daily. No question. The classics are stylish (something new cars lack) but they don't come close to the handling and safety of new cars. Plus, the "muscle" car is a bit of a misnomer today. The old rule of "there's no replacement for displacement" really doesn't apply anymore. Some of the new cars with small, turbocharged engines can out perform some of the old muscle cars of yesterday. That said though, the low RPM torque of a GM 454 ci engine and some of the Ford and MOPAR big blocks just has to be experienced to appreciate. No doubt about that. If I hit the lotto and decided I wanted an old 60s car, the first thing I would do is drop a brand new "box motor" in it. Judy really wants a 50s pickup truck but she wants the sheet metal dropped down on a new Lincoln chassis. ;-) I saw that very thing a few weeks ago. It was a late 50's Ford truck, but when I looked into the front wheel well it was obvious that it was a late model chassis. About then the guy walked out of the store and we talked. It was a Crown Vic chassis under the truck sheet metal. |
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On Wed, 08 Aug 2018 13:57:29 -0400, wrote:
On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 10:58:37 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I had a lady coworker ask me about older muscle cars. Her son was going to get his licence soon, and wanted to get a 60's to 70's "muscle car" to drive. My advice to her was get him a late model Corolla or similar. That old car wouldn't have ABS, airbags, crumple zones, door beams, etc. Maybe not even shoulder belts. Plus the brakes and handling aren't very good unless you do some resto-modding. I like my old Torino, but I also respect it and its shortcomings. No way a 17 year old should be driving something like that for a daily. No question. The classics are stylish (something new cars lack) but they don't come close to the handling and safety of new cars. Plus, the "muscle" car is a bit of a misnomer today. The old rule of "there's no replacement for displacement" really doesn't apply anymore. Some of the new cars with small, turbocharged engines can out perform some of the old muscle cars of yesterday. That said though, the low RPM torque of a GM 454 ci engine and some of the Ford and MOPAR big blocks just has to be experienced to appreciate. No doubt about that. If I hit the lotto and decided I wanted an old 60s car, the first thing I would do is drop a brand new "box motor" in it. Judy really wants a 50s pickup truck but she wants the sheet metal dropped down on a new Lincoln chassis. ;-) Here ya go - upgraded engine, interior, and suspension. Good lookin' too! https://classics.autotrader.com/clas...3100/101010235 |
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John H. Wrote in message:
On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 08:39:41 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/8/18 7:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/7/2018 7:53 PM, John H. wrote: On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 19:37:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 8/7/2018 1:51 PM, wrote: On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 06:26:32 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 16:42:55 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 5:53:59 PM UTC-5, John H wrote: ...wish I'd seen this video a few years back when I dropped the Mille at a MacDonalds! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyWpIKC_Br8 I saw a guy do that once because the kick stand collapsed, so he picked it up just to have it keel over the other side..... I posted a video of that here a while back. Funny as hell, but I think the guy must have been drunk. When I dropped mine, it dropped on the kickstand side. Whoops! Harleys have a real bad habit of going over on the kickstand side if you park in the grass. That is why guys carry a little block of wood to put under the kick stand.. Any bike will tip over if the kickstand pushes through soft soil, even my little 150 cc scooter. The scooter gave me the itch though. Bought a used Suzuki C50T to ride (drive?) :-} around on. Decent bike ... not anywhere near as heavy as the last two Harleys that I had. This one weighs in at just about 600 lbs wet. The Harley's were about 900 lbs. It also has a lower CG. Congrats! Looks like a mean machine. Not wild about the style, but I'm just not a cruiser guy. What year, how many miles...got a picture? Should we open up the 'countersteering' discussion again? It's a 2008 with 16,000 miles on it. 805 cc. Not as big and heavy as the two Harley Ultra Classics I had and the biggest thing I noticed right away (besides the lighter weight) was the lower center of gravity. Looks just like the image at the link (below) except it's a metallic charcoal with black trim instead of all black. I also removed the driver backrest which I didn't like. Mrs.E likes it because she can go for rides with me once in a while. My brother has owned an older version of the C50 (2004) and it has been trouble free in the 14 years that he has had it. https://latelifebiker.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/the-black-beauty-med.jpg It doesn't have the "balls" that the Harleys had but it has more than enough for me with my wife on board. Of course the Harley engines were almost twice the size at 1584 cc and my last one was a 6 speed whereas the Suzuki has 5. It's water cooled as well which I like. I really didn't have any intention of buying another motorcycle but the day I went to the dealer to pick up the little scooter I happened to see this one sitting in the shop and it caught my attention. Went home, rode the scooter around for a couple of weeks and decided to go back and try out the Suzuki. They made me a offer that I couldn't refuse so now I have both the scooter and the bike. It's history is kinda funny. It was purchased new in 2008 by a guy in his mid 40's. He recently moved to an apartment in Boston and didn't have a place to easily store it so he traded it in on a scooter identical to the one I bought for commuting in the city. How does your wife get up on that passenger seat? It looks pretty high up... I had a Mini Cooper S with a smaller engine than the 1584 cc's in your Harley...it was a 1275 cc and I think the entire car weighed about 1300 pounds...four speed tranny. :) Passenger foot rest. Don't Ducatis have them? The imaginary ones don't, aparently. :-) -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 8/8/2018 2:03 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Wednesday, August 8, 2018 at 1:57:26 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 10:58:37 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I had a lady coworker ask me about older muscle cars. Her son was going to get his licence soon, and wanted to get a 60's to 70's "muscle car" to drive. My advice to her was get him a late model Corolla or similar. That old car wouldn't have ABS, airbags, crumple zones, door beams, etc. Maybe not even shoulder belts. Plus the brakes and handling aren't very good unless you do some resto-modding. I like my old Torino, but I also respect it and its shortcomings. No way a 17 year old should be driving something like that for a daily. No question. The classics are stylish (something new cars lack) but they don't come close to the handling and safety of new cars. Plus, the "muscle" car is a bit of a misnomer today. The old rule of "there's no replacement for displacement" really doesn't apply anymore. Some of the new cars with small, turbocharged engines can out perform some of the old muscle cars of yesterday. That said though, the low RPM torque of a GM 454 ci engine and some of the Ford and MOPAR big blocks just has to be experienced to appreciate. No doubt about that. If I hit the lotto and decided I wanted an old 60s car, the first thing I would do is drop a brand new "box motor" in it. Judy really wants a 50s pickup truck but she wants the sheet metal dropped down on a new Lincoln chassis. ;-) I saw that very thing a few weeks ago. It was a late 50's Ford truck, but when I looked into the front wheel well it was obvious that it was a late model chassis. About then the guy walked out of the store and we talked. It was a Crown Vic chassis under the truck sheet metal. The 1955 Ford F-100 I had was built on a Mustang chassis, complete with a HO 302. |
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On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 12:14:23 -0600 (MDT), justan wrote:
John H. Wrote in message: On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 08:39:41 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/8/18 7:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/7/2018 7:53 PM, John H. wrote: On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 19:37:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 8/7/2018 1:51 PM, wrote: On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 06:26:32 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 16:42:55 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 5:53:59 PM UTC-5, John H wrote: ...wish I'd seen this video a few years back when I dropped the Mille at a MacDonalds! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyWpIKC_Br8 I saw a guy do that once because the kick stand collapsed, so he picked it up just to have it keel over the other side..... I posted a video of that here a while back. Funny as hell, but I think the guy must have been drunk. When I dropped mine, it dropped on the kickstand side. Whoops! Harleys have a real bad habit of going over on the kickstand side if you park in the grass. That is why guys carry a little block of wood to put under the kick stand.. Any bike will tip over if the kickstand pushes through soft soil, even my little 150 cc scooter. The scooter gave me the itch though. Bought a used Suzuki C50T to ride (drive?) :-} around on. Decent bike ... not anywhere near as heavy as the last two Harleys that I had. This one weighs in at just about 600 lbs wet. The Harley's were about 900 lbs. It also has a lower CG. Congrats! Looks like a mean machine. Not wild about the style, but I'm just not a cruiser guy. What year, how many miles...got a picture? Should we open up the 'countersteering' discussion again? It's a 2008 with 16,000 miles on it. 805 cc. Not as big and heavy as the two Harley Ultra Classics I had and the biggest thing I noticed right away (besides the lighter weight) was the lower center of gravity. Looks just like the image at the link (below) except it's a metallic charcoal with black trim instead of all black. I also removed the driver backrest which I didn't like. Mrs.E likes it because she can go for rides with me once in a while. My brother has owned an older version of the C50 (2004) and it has been trouble free in the 14 years that he has had it. https://latelifebiker.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/the-black-beauty-med.jpg It doesn't have the "balls" that the Harleys had but it has more than enough for me with my wife on board. Of course the Harley engines were almost twice the size at 1584 cc and my last one was a 6 speed whereas the Suzuki has 5. It's water cooled as well which I like. I really didn't have any intention of buying another motorcycle but the day I went to the dealer to pick up the little scooter I happened to see this one sitting in the shop and it caught my attention. Went home, rode the scooter around for a couple of weeks and decided to go back and try out the Suzuki. They made me a offer that I couldn't refuse so now I have both the scooter and the bike. It's history is kinda funny. It was purchased new in 2008 by a guy in his mid 40's. He recently moved to an apartment in Boston and didn't have a place to easily store it so he traded it in on a scooter identical to the one I bought for commuting in the city. How does your wife get up on that passenger seat? It looks pretty high up... I had a Mini Cooper S with a smaller engine than the 1584 cc's in your Harley...it was a 1275 cc and I think the entire car weighed about 1300 pounds...four speed tranny. :) Passenger foot rest. Don't Ducatis have them? The imaginary ones don't, aparently. :-) Hard to imagine a motorcyclist not knowing how passengers, especially those who aren't over six feet tall, board a motorcycle. |
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On 8/8/18 2:14 PM, justan wrote:
John H. Wrote in message: On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 08:39:41 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/8/18 7:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/7/2018 7:53 PM, John H. wrote: On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 19:37:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 8/7/2018 1:51 PM, wrote: On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 06:26:32 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 16:42:55 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 5:53:59 PM UTC-5, John H wrote: ...wish I'd seen this video a few years back when I dropped the Mille at a MacDonalds! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyWpIKC_Br8 I saw a guy do that once because the kick stand collapsed, so he picked it up just to have it keel over the other side..... I posted a video of that here a while back. Funny as hell, but I think the guy must have been drunk. When I dropped mine, it dropped on the kickstand side. Whoops! Harleys have a real bad habit of going over on the kickstand side if you park in the grass. That is why guys carry a little block of wood to put under the kick stand.. Any bike will tip over if the kickstand pushes through soft soil, even my little 150 cc scooter. The scooter gave me the itch though. Bought a used Suzuki C50T to ride (drive?) :-} around on. Decent bike ... not anywhere near as heavy as the last two Harleys that I had. This one weighs in at just about 600 lbs wet. The Harley's were about 900 lbs. It also has a lower CG. Congrats! Looks like a mean machine. Not wild about the style, but I'm just not a cruiser guy. What year, how many miles...got a picture? Should we open up the 'countersteering' discussion again? It's a 2008 with 16,000 miles on it. 805 cc. Not as big and heavy as the two Harley Ultra Classics I had and the biggest thing I noticed right away (besides the lighter weight) was the lower center of gravity. Looks just like the image at the link (below) except it's a metallic charcoal with black trim instead of all black. I also removed the driver backrest which I didn't like. Mrs.E likes it because she can go for rides with me once in a while. My brother has owned an older version of the C50 (2004) and it has been trouble free in the 14 years that he has had it. https://latelifebiker.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/the-black-beauty-med.jpg It doesn't have the "balls" that the Harleys had but it has more than enough for me with my wife on board. Of course the Harley engines were almost twice the size at 1584 cc and my last one was a 6 speed whereas the Suzuki has 5. It's water cooled as well which I like. I really didn't have any intention of buying another motorcycle but the day I went to the dealer to pick up the little scooter I happened to see this one sitting in the shop and it caught my attention. Went home, rode the scooter around for a couple of weeks and decided to go back and try out the Suzuki. They made me a offer that I couldn't refuse so now I have both the scooter and the bike. It's history is kinda funny. It was purchased new in 2008 by a guy in his mid 40's. He recently moved to an apartment in Boston and didn't have a place to easily store it so he traded it in on a scooter identical to the one I bought for commuting in the city. How does your wife get up on that passenger seat? It looks pretty high up... I had a Mini Cooper S with a smaller engine than the 1584 cc's in your Harley...it was a 1275 cc and I think the entire car weighed about 1300 pounds...four speed tranny. :) Passenger foot rest. Don't Ducatis have them? The imaginary ones don't, aparently. :-) Some Ducati motorcycles have neither passenger seats nor footpegs for back seaters, though they are available as accessories. I can see how you two, Johnny the Racist or Chubby Hubby Timmy, wouldn't know that, though, since you like the superheavy Avoirdupois Bikes. Oh, a few weeks ago, I saw a pretty new Triumph Bonneville with a single seat and no rear set or pegs. |
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On 8/8/18 3:07 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/8/2018 2:03 PM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, August 8, 2018 at 1:57:26 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 10:58:37 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I had a lady coworker ask me about older muscle cars. Her son was going to get his licence soon, and wanted to get a 60's to 70's "muscle car" to drive. My advice to her was get him a late model Corolla or similar.* That old car wouldn't have ABS, airbags, crumple zones, door beams, etc.* Maybe not even shoulder belts. Plus the brakes and handling aren't very good unless you do some resto-modding. I like my old Torino, but I also respect it and its shortcomings. No way a 17 year old should be driving something like that for a daily. No question.* The classics are stylish (something new cars lack) but they don't come close to the handling and safety of new cars.* Plus, the "muscle" car* is a bit of a misnomer today.* The old rule of "there's no replacement for displacement" really doesn't apply anymore.* Some of the new cars with small, turbocharged engines can out perform some of the old muscle cars of yesterday. That said though, the low RPM torque of a GM 454 ci engine and some of the Ford and MOPAR big blocks just has to be experienced to appreciate. No doubt about that. If I hit the lotto and decided I wanted an old 60s car, the first thing I would do is drop a brand new "box motor" in it. Judy really wants a 50s pickup truck but she wants the sheet metal dropped down on a new Lincoln chassis. ;-) I saw that very thing a few weeks ago.* It was a late 50's Ford truck, but when I looked into the front wheel well it was obvious that it was a late model chassis.* About then the guy walked out of the store and we talked.* It was a Crown Vic chassis under the truck sheet metal. The 1955 Ford F-100 I had was built on a Mustang chassis, complete with a HO 302. The only classic truck to own, of course, is an early to mid 1930s Model A Ford with the flathead V8. :) |
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On 8/8/2018 3:56 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/8/18 3:07 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/8/2018 2:03 PM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, August 8, 2018 at 1:57:26 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 10:58:37 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I had a lady coworker ask me about older muscle cars. Her son was going to get his licence soon, and wanted to get a 60's to 70's "muscle car" to drive. My advice to her was get him a late model Corolla or similar.* That old car wouldn't have ABS, airbags, crumple zones, door beams, etc.* Maybe not even shoulder belts. Plus the brakes and handling aren't very good unless you do some resto-modding. I like my old Torino, but I also respect it and its shortcomings. No way a 17 year old should be driving something like that for a daily. No question.* The classics are stylish (something new cars lack) but they don't come close to the handling and safety of new cars.* Plus, the "muscle" car* is a bit of a misnomer today.* The old rule of "there's no replacement for displacement" really doesn't apply anymore.* Some of the new cars with small, turbocharged engines can out perform some of the old muscle cars of yesterday. That said though, the low RPM torque of a GM 454 ci engine and some of the Ford and MOPAR big blocks just has to be experienced to appreciate. No doubt about that. If I hit the lotto and decided I wanted an old 60s car, the first thing I would do is drop a brand new "box motor" in it. Judy really wants a 50s pickup truck but she wants the sheet metal dropped down on a new Lincoln chassis. ;-) I saw that very thing a few weeks ago.* It was a late 50's Ford truck, but when I looked into the front wheel well it was obvious that it was a late model chassis.* About then the guy walked out of the store and we talked.* It was a Crown Vic chassis under the truck sheet metal. The 1955 Ford F-100 I had was built on a Mustang chassis, complete with a HO 302. The only classic truck to own, of course, is an early to mid 1930s Model A Ford with the flathead V8.* :) I don't know. The '55 was the only classic that I made a small profit on when I sold it. |
Yo Tim...
On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 15:51:55 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/8/18 2:14 PM, justan wrote: John H. Wrote in message: On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 08:39:41 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/8/18 7:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/7/2018 7:53 PM, John H. wrote: On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 19:37:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 8/7/2018 1:51 PM, wrote: On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 06:26:32 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 16:42:55 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 5:53:59 PM UTC-5, John H wrote: ...wish I'd seen this video a few years back when I dropped the Mille at a MacDonalds! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyWpIKC_Br8 I saw a guy do that once because the kick stand collapsed, so he picked it up just to have it keel over the other side..... I posted a video of that here a while back. Funny as hell, but I think the guy must have been drunk. When I dropped mine, it dropped on the kickstand side. Whoops! Harleys have a real bad habit of going over on the kickstand side if you park in the grass. That is why guys carry a little block of wood to put under the kick stand.. Any bike will tip over if the kickstand pushes through soft soil, even my little 150 cc scooter. The scooter gave me the itch though. Bought a used Suzuki C50T to ride (drive?) :-} around on. Decent bike ... not anywhere near as heavy as the last two Harleys that I had. This one weighs in at just about 600 lbs wet. The Harley's were about 900 lbs. It also has a lower CG. Congrats! Looks like a mean machine. Not wild about the style, but I'm just not a cruiser guy. What year, how many miles...got a picture? Should we open up the 'countersteering' discussion again? It's a 2008 with 16,000 miles on it. 805 cc. Not as big and heavy as the two Harley Ultra Classics I had and the biggest thing I noticed right away (besides the lighter weight) was the lower center of gravity. Looks just like the image at the link (below) except it's a metallic charcoal with black trim instead of all black. I also removed the driver backrest which I didn't like. Mrs.E likes it because she can go for rides with me once in a while. My brother has owned an older version of the C50 (2004) and it has been trouble free in the 14 years that he has had it. https://latelifebiker.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/the-black-beauty-med.jpg It doesn't have the "balls" that the Harleys had but it has more than enough for me with my wife on board. Of course the Harley engines were almost twice the size at 1584 cc and my last one was a 6 speed whereas the Suzuki has 5. It's water cooled as well which I like. I really didn't have any intention of buying another motorcycle but the day I went to the dealer to pick up the little scooter I happened to see this one sitting in the shop and it caught my attention. Went home, rode the scooter around for a couple of weeks and decided to go back and try out the Suzuki. They made me a offer that I couldn't refuse so now I have both the scooter and the bike. It's history is kinda funny. It was purchased new in 2008 by a guy in his mid 40's. He recently moved to an apartment in Boston and didn't have a place to easily store it so he traded it in on a scooter identical to the one I bought for commuting in the city. How does your wife get up on that passenger seat? It looks pretty high up... I had a Mini Cooper S with a smaller engine than the 1584 cc's in your Harley...it was a 1275 cc and I think the entire car weighed about 1300 pounds...four speed tranny. :) Passenger foot rest. Don't Ducatis have them? The imaginary ones don't, aparently. :-) Some Ducati motorcycles have neither passenger seats nor footpegs for back seaters, though they are available as accessories. I can see how you two, Johnny the Racist or Chubby Hubby Timmy, wouldn't know that, though, since you like the superheavy Avoirdupois Bikes. Oh, a few weeks ago, I saw a pretty new Triumph Bonneville with a single seat and no rear set or pegs. Doubt if mine weighs much more than a Ducati, and surely not much more than the new Bonnevilles. Almost any motorcycle can be fitted with a single saddle and the passenger footpegs removed. Surely you knew that. |
Yo Tim...
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 8/8/18 3:07 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/8/2018 2:03 PM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, August 8, 2018 at 1:57:26 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 10:58:37 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I had a lady coworker ask me about older muscle cars. Her son was going to get his licence soon, and wanted to get a 60's to 70's "muscle car" to drive. My advice to her was get him a late model Corolla or similar. That old car wouldn't have ABS, airbags, crumple zones, door beams, etc. Maybe not even shoulder belts. Plus the brakes and handling aren't very good unless you do some resto-modding. I like my old Torino, but I also respect it and its shortcomings. No way a 17 year old should be driving something like that for a daily. No question. The classics are stylish (something new cars lack) but they don't come close to the handling and safety of new cars. Plus, the "muscle" car is a bit of a misnomer today. The old rule of "there's no replacement for displacement" really doesn't apply anymore. Some of the new cars with small, turbocharged engines can out perform some of the old muscle cars of yesterday. That said though, the low RPM torque of a GM 454 ci engine and some of the Ford and MOPAR big blocks just has to be experienced to appreciate. No doubt about that. If I hit the lotto and decided I wanted an old 60s car, the first thing I would do is drop a brand new "box motor" in it. Judy really wants a 50s pickup truck but she wants the sheet metal dropped down on a new Lincoln chassis. ;-) I saw that very thing a few weeks ago. It was a late 50's Ford truck, but when I looked into the front wheel well it was obvious that it was a late model chassis. About then the guy walked out of the store and we talked. It was a Crown Vic chassis under the truck sheet metal. The 1955 Ford F-100 I had was built on a Mustang chassis, complete with a HO 302. The only classic truck to own, of course, is an early to mid 1930s Model A Ford with the flathead V8. :) Of course, your daddy gave you one. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
Yo Tim...
On Wednesday, August 8, 2018 at 4:09:16 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/8/2018 3:56 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/8/18 3:07 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/8/2018 2:03 PM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, August 8, 2018 at 1:57:26 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 10:58:37 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I had a lady coworker ask me about older muscle cars. Her son was going to get his licence soon, and wanted to get a 60's to 70's "muscle car" to drive. My advice to her was get him a late model Corolla or similar.* That old car wouldn't have ABS, airbags, crumple zones, door beams, etc.* Maybe not even shoulder belts. Plus the brakes and handling aren't very good unless you do some resto-modding. I like my old Torino, but I also respect it and its shortcomings. No way a 17 year old should be driving something like that for a daily. No question.* The classics are stylish (something new cars lack) but they don't come close to the handling and safety of new cars.* Plus, the "muscle" car* is a bit of a misnomer today.* The old rule of "there's no replacement for displacement" really doesn't apply anymore.* Some of the new cars with small, turbocharged engines can out perform some of the old muscle cars of yesterday. That said though, the low RPM torque of a GM 454 ci engine and some of the Ford and MOPAR big blocks just has to be experienced to appreciate. No doubt about that. If I hit the lotto and decided I wanted an old 60s car, the first thing I would do is drop a brand new "box motor" in it. Judy really wants a 50s pickup truck but she wants the sheet metal dropped down on a new Lincoln chassis. ;-) I saw that very thing a few weeks ago.* It was a late 50's Ford truck, but when I looked into the front wheel well it was obvious that it was a late model chassis.* About then the guy walked out of the store and we talked.* It was a Crown Vic chassis under the truck sheet metal. The 1955 Ford F-100 I had was built on a Mustang chassis, complete with a HO 302. The only classic truck to own, of course, is an early to mid 1930s Model A Ford with the flathead V8.* :) I don't know. The '55 was the only classic that I made a small profit on when I sold it. 50's-early 70's vehicles are hot right now, partly because the people that had them back then are in a financial position to buy/restore them now. Old 30's - 40's stuff can be had for a song. The people that loved them are mostly dead. |
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