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Question for Fat Harry
What has changed since your pussy youth?
Your interest in tactical weapons at this late stage in your life seems odd given your disdain for military and what those weapons are designed for. You got a Rambo fantacy going on? -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
Question for Fat Harry
On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 11:03:45 -0600 (MDT), justan wrote:
What has changed since your pussy youth? Your interest in tactical weapons at this late stage in your life seems odd given your disdain for military and what those weapons are designed for. You got a Rambo fantacy going on? === Most likely he's afraid of meeting up with some of the friends he's made over the years. Another possibility is that there might be a contract out, or he's concerned that there is. When you go through life stiffing people there's always a risk. |
Question for Fat Harry
On 8/1/18 1:03 PM, justan wrote:
What has changed since your pussy youth? Your interest in tactical weapons at this late stage in your life seems odd given your disdain for military and what those weapons are designed for. You got a Rambo fantacy going on? Response for dumb as **** Justan: I like them because they are easy to adjust and modify/customize. Most of my small collection of firearms, though, are not ones the military would be issued. You never know when Dampnutz Donald's jackbooted Stoßtruppen might go more berserk... |
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Keyser Soze
On 8/1/18 1:03 PM, justan wrote: What has changed since your pussy youth? Your interest in tactical weapons at this late stage in your life seems odd given your disdain for military and what those weapons are designed for. You got a Rambo fantacy going on? Response for dumb as **** Justan: I like them because they are easy to adjust and modify/customize. Most of my small collection of firearms, though, are not ones the military would be issued. You never know when Dampnutz Donald's jackbooted Stoßtruppen might go more berserk... ........ I’d be more concerned over the jackbooted, DNC fueled, rock and flame throwing ANTIFA crowd than anyone elsa |
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On 8/1/18 4:07 PM, Tim wrote:
Keyser Soze On 8/1/18 1:03 PM, justan wrote: What has changed since your pussy youth? Your interest in tactical weapons at this late stage in your life seems odd given your disdain for military and what those weapons are designed for. You got a Rambo fantacy going on? Response for dumb as **** Justan: I like them because they are easy to adjust and modify/customize. Most of my small collection of firearms, though, are not ones the military would be issued. You never know when Dampnutz Donald's jackbooted Stoßtruppen might go more berserk... ....... I’d be more concerned over the jackbooted, DNC fueled, rock and flame throwing ANTIFA crowd than anyone elsa Where you are? I'd suspect the main worry would be an invasion of ground hogs. |
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Keyser Soze
- show quoted text - Where you are? I'd suspect the main worry would be an invasion of ground hogs. ........... So you really are paranoid of jackbooted Stoßtruppen pounding on your door? |
Question for Fat Harry
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 8/1/18 1:03 PM, justan wrote: What has changed since your pussy youth? Your interest in tactical weapons at this late stage in your life seems odd given your disdain for military and what those weapons are designed for. You got a Rambo fantacy going on? Response for dumb as **** Justan: I like them because they are easy to adjust and modify/customize. Most of my small collection of firearms, though, are not ones the military would be issued. You never know when Dampnutz Donald's jackbooted Stotruppen might go more berserk... Tactical weapons aren' t Legos or Tinker Toys. A guy with your mechanical acumen shouldn't be messing with them. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
Question for Fat Harry
On 8/1/18 7:03 PM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 8/1/18 1:03 PM, justan wrote: What has changed since your pussy youth? Your interest in tactical weapons at this late stage in your life seems odd given your disdain for military and what those weapons are designed for. You got a Rambo fantacy going on? Response for dumb as **** Justan: I like them because they are easy to adjust and modify/customize. Most of my small collection of firearms, though, are not ones the military would be issued. You never know when Dampnutz Donald's jackbooted Stoßtruppen might go more berserk... Tactical weapons aren' t Legos or Tinker Toys. A guy with your mechanical acumen shouldn't be messing with them. Modern sporting rifles are easy to take apart and put back together. I've done it three times. Given enough time, even a semi-literate like you could replace a handgrip or maybe take apart a magazine, if someone was around to guide you. Hardest part was learning how to properly headspace a barrel. Do it wrong and possible kaboom. |
Question for Fat Harry
On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 20:02:12 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
Hardest part was learning how to properly headspace a barrel. Do it wrong and possible kaboom. More like a failure to go into battery, causing a failure to fire or failure to extract, causing a double feed jam. |
Question for Fat Harry
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/1/18 4:07 PM, Tim wrote: Keyser Soze On 8/1/18 1:03 PM, justan wrote: What has changed since your pussy youth? Your interest in tactical weapons at this late stage in your life seems odd given your disdain for military and what those weapons are designed for. You got a Rambo fantacy going on? Response for dumb as **** Justan: I like them because they are easy to adjust and modify/customize. Most of my small collection of firearms, though, are not ones the military would be issued. You never know when Dampnutz Donald's jackbooted Stoßtruppen might go more berserk... ....... I’d be more concerned over the jackbooted, DNC fueled, rock and flame throwing ANTIFA crowd than anyone elsa Where you are? I'd suspect the main worry would be an invasion of ground hogs. Seems as if Waco and Ruby Ridge were all Democrat “Justice” Dept. |
Question for Fat Harry
On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 9:41:49 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 20:02:12 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Hardest part was learning how to properly headspace a barrel. Do it wrong and possible kaboom. More like a failure to go into battery, causing a failure to fire or failure to extract, causing a double feed jam. He's talking about the AR-15 he "built", and there's really nothing to headspace on one. If the barrel and receiver are properly machined to spec, it has the proper headspace built into the design. When it becomes important is when you are fitting a more traditional barrel and receiver together, and are doing the machining yourself. Let's say you have a Mauser 98 action, and you're building a 30-06 with a Shaw barrel. Then you have to check and machine in the correct headspace, and even then it's not hard to do. |
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Its Me Wrote in message:
On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 9:41:49 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 20:02:12 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Hardest part was learning how to properly headspace a barrel. Do it wrong and possible kaboom. More like a failure to go into battery, causing a failure to fire or failure to extract, causing a double feed jam. He's talking about the AR-15 he "built", and there's really nothing to headspace on one. If the barrel and receiver are properly machined to spec, it has the proper headspace built into the design. When it becomes important is when you are fitting a more traditional barrel and receiver together, and are doing the machining yourself. Let's say you have a Mauser 98 action, and you're building a 30-06 with a Shaw barrel. Then you have to check and machine in the correct headspace, and even then it's not hard to do. Another fabricated Fat Harry story? -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
Question for Fat Harry
On 8/2/18 11:25 AM, justan wrote:
Its Me Wrote in message: On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 9:41:49 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 20:02:12 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Hardest part was learning how to properly headspace a barrel. Do it wrong and possible kaboom. More like a failure to go into battery, causing a failure to fire or failure to extract, causing a double feed jam. He's talking about the AR-15 he "built", and there's really nothing to headspace on one. If the barrel and receiver are properly machined to spec, it has the proper headspace built into the design. When it becomes important is when you are fitting a more traditional barrel and receiver together, and are doing the machining yourself. Let's say you have a Mauser 98 action, and you're building a 30-06 with a Shaw barrel. Then you have to check and machine in the correct headspace, and even then it's not hard to do. Another fabricated Fat Harry story? Barrels in sporting rifles don't headspace themselves automatically, and it is worth taking a few minutes to check it. If JackOff wants to take the chance of a kaboom, it is fine with me. |
Question for Fat Harry
On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 11:43:42 AM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/2/18 11:25 AM, justan wrote: Its Me Wrote in message: On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 9:41:49 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 20:02:12 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Hardest part was learning how to properly headspace a barrel. Do it wrong and possible kaboom. More like a failure to go into battery, causing a failure to fire or failure to extract, causing a double feed jam. He's talking about the AR-15 he "built", and there's really nothing to headspace on one. If the barrel and receiver are properly machined to spec, it has the proper headspace built into the design. When it becomes important is when you are fitting a more traditional barrel and receiver together, and are doing the machining yourself. Let's say you have a Mauser 98 action, and you're building a 30-06 with a Shaw barrel. Then you have to check and machine in the correct headspace, and even then it's not hard to do.. Another fabricated Fat Harry story? Barrels in sporting rifles don't headspace themselves automatically, and it is worth taking a few minutes to check it. If JackOff wants to take the chance of a kaboom, it is fine with me. I wasn't talking about a "sporting rifle", I was talking about an AR-15. If the receiver and barrel are manufactured to spec, then they simply work. The barrel has a flange that butts up to the receiver, and the castle nut holds it in place. You can get a go/no-go checker, but because of the design changing the headspace on an AR is a complex process, more complex than a sporting rifle that uses a conventional design. It takes a headspace that is severely out of spec to even think about going kaboom. You should stick to writing jingles, fat boy. |
Question for Fat Harry
On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 07:02:24 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote: On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 9:41:49 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 20:02:12 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Hardest part was learning how to properly headspace a barrel. Do it wrong and possible kaboom. More like a failure to go into battery, causing a failure to fire or failure to extract, causing a double feed jam. He's talking about the AR-15 he "built", and there's really nothing to headspace on one. If the barrel and receiver are properly machined to spec, it has the proper headspace built into the design. When it becomes important is when you are fitting a more traditional barrel and receiver together, and are doing the machining yourself. Let's say you have a Mauser 98 action, and you're building a 30-06 with a Shaw barrel. Then you have to check and machine in the correct headspace, and even then it's not hard to do. My only real experience with it is reassembling an M2. |
Question for Fat Harry
On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 11:43:38 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/2/18 11:25 AM, justan wrote: Its Me Wrote in message: On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 9:41:49 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 20:02:12 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Hardest part was learning how to properly headspace a barrel. Do it wrong and possible kaboom. More like a failure to go into battery, causing a failure to fire or failure to extract, causing a double feed jam. He's talking about the AR-15 he "built", and there's really nothing to headspace on one. If the barrel and receiver are properly machined to spec, it has the proper headspace built into the design. When it becomes important is when you are fitting a more traditional barrel and receiver together, and are doing the machining yourself. Let's say you have a Mauser 98 action, and you're building a 30-06 with a Shaw barrel. Then you have to check and machine in the correct headspace, and even then it's not hard to do. Another fabricated Fat Harry story? Barrels in sporting rifles don't headspace themselves automatically, and it is worth taking a few minutes to check it. If JackOff wants to take the chance of a kaboom, it is fine with me. You still have not said where the kaboom comes from. If the headspace is too large the extractor might not grab the rim, causing a jam or the firing pin might not hit the primer, causing a misfire, worst case a hang fire but they are very rare with modern primers. If the headspace is too small the bolt won't close. No boom at all there. A bolt action usually will not shoot until the bolt is seated and a SA has a disconnector. |
Question for Fat Harry
On 8/2/18 3:17 PM, justan wrote:
Wrote in message: On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 11:43:38 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/2/18 11:25 AM, justan wrote: Its Me Wrote in message: On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 9:41:49 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 20:02:12 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Hardest part was learning how to properly headspace a barrel. Do it wrong and possible kaboom. More like a failure to go into battery, causing a failure to fire or failure to extract, causing a double feed jam. He's talking about the AR-15 he "built", and there's really nothing to headspace on one. If the barrel and receiver are properly machined to spec, it has the proper headspace built into the design. When it becomes important is when you are fitting a more traditional barrel and receiver together, and are doing the machining yourself. Let's say you have a Mauser 98 action, and you're building a 30-06 with a Shaw barrel. Then you have to check and machine in the correct headspace, and even then it's not hard to do. Another fabricated Fat Harry story? Barrels in sporting rifles don't headspace themselves automatically, and it is worth taking a few minutes to check it. If JackOff wants to take the chance of a kaboom, it is fine with me. You still have not said where the kaboom comes from. If the headspace is too large the extractor might not grab the rim, causing a jam or the firing pin might not hit the primer, causing a misfire, worst case a hang fire but they are very rare with modern primers. If the headspace is too small the bolt won't close. No boom at all there. A bolt action usually will not shoot until the bolt is seated and a SA has a disconnector. I suppose all you gun fanciers are waiting for Fat Harry's learned response. Ask your limited experience buddies... What happens when excessive headspace makes the casing split, the gas in the chamber is not sealed, and the gas is vented into the breech. |
Question for Fat Harry
On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 1:32:48 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 11:43:38 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/2/18 11:25 AM, justan wrote: Its Me Wrote in message: On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 9:41:49 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 20:02:12 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Hardest part was learning how to properly headspace a barrel. Do it wrong and possible kaboom. More like a failure to go into battery, causing a failure to fire or failure to extract, causing a double feed jam. He's talking about the AR-15 he "built", and there's really nothing to headspace on one. If the barrel and receiver are properly machined to spec, it has the proper headspace built into the design. When it becomes important is when you are fitting a more traditional barrel and receiver together, and are doing the machining yourself. Let's say you have a Mauser 98 action, and you're building a 30-06 with a Shaw barrel. Then you have to check and machine in the correct headspace, and even then it's not hard to do. Another fabricated Fat Harry story? Barrels in sporting rifles don't headspace themselves automatically, and it is worth taking a few minutes to check it. If JackOff wants to take the chance of a kaboom, it is fine with me. You still have not said where the kaboom comes from. If the headspace is too large the extractor might not grab the rim, causing a jam or the firing pin might not hit the primer, causing a misfire, worst case a hang fire but they are very rare with modern primers. If the headspace is too small the bolt won't close. No boom at all there. A bolt action usually will not shoot until the bolt is seated and a SA has a disconnector. IF you have enough excessive headspace, and IF you get the round to fire, and IF the case pressure is sufficient, you can have the the case swell and/or split in that unsupported area. IF all the IF's add up perfectly. The most common symptoms are cratered or pushed back primers, rings around the base of the brass, or the brass rim being distorted. It's always a good idea to inspect your first fired casings of an outing, especially when you change loads or brands of ammo. |
Question for Fat Harry
On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 15:35:41 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/2/18 3:17 PM, justan wrote: Wrote in message: On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 11:43:38 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/2/18 11:25 AM, justan wrote: Its Me Wrote in message: On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 9:41:49 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 20:02:12 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Hardest part was learning how to properly headspace a barrel. Do it wrong and possible kaboom. More like a failure to go into battery, causing a failure to fire or failure to extract, causing a double feed jam. He's talking about the AR-15 he "built", and there's really nothing to headspace on one. If the barrel and receiver are properly machined to spec, it has the proper headspace built into the design. When it becomes important is when you are fitting a more traditional barrel and receiver together, and are doing the machining yourself. Let's say you have a Mauser 98 action, and you're building a 30-06 with a Shaw barrel. Then you have to check and machine in the correct headspace, and even then it's not hard to do. Another fabricated Fat Harry story? Barrels in sporting rifles don't headspace themselves automatically, and it is worth taking a few minutes to check it. If JackOff wants to take the chance of a kaboom, it is fine with me. You still have not said where the kaboom comes from. If the headspace is too large the extractor might not grab the rim, causing a jam or the firing pin might not hit the primer, causing a misfire, worst case a hang fire but they are very rare with modern primers. If the headspace is too small the bolt won't close. No boom at all there. A bolt action usually will not shoot until the bolt is seated and a SA has a disconnector. I suppose all you gun fanciers are waiting for Fat Harry's learned response. Ask your limited experience buddies... What happens when excessive headspace makes the casing split, the gas in the chamber is not sealed, and the gas is vented into the breech. Not bloody likely. In fact they change case sizes all the time by "fire forming" a smaller case in a larger chamber. If the head space was that far off, I doubt the firing pin would hit the primer anyway. |
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Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 8/2/18 3:17 PM, justan wrote: Wrote in message: On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 11:43:38 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/2/18 11:25 AM, justan wrote: Its Me Wrote in message: On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 9:41:49 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 20:02:12 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Hardest part was learning how to properly headspace a barrel. Do it wrong and possible kaboom. More like a failure to go into battery, causing a failure to fire or failure to extract, causing a double feed jam. He's talking about the AR-15 he "built", and there's really nothing to headspace on one. If the barrel and receiver are properly machined to spec, it has the proper headspace built into the design. When it becomes important is when you are fitting a more traditional barrel and receiver together, and are doing the machining yourself. Let's say you have a Mauser 98 action, and you're building a 30-06 with a Shaw barrel. Then you have to check and machine in the correct headspace, and even then it's not hard to do. Another fabricated Fat Harry story? Barrels in sporting rifles don't headspace themselves automatically, and it is worth taking a few minutes to check it. If JackOff wants to take the chance of a kaboom, it is fine with me. You still have not said where the kaboom comes from. If the headspace is too large the extractor might not grab the rim, causing a jam or the firing pin might not hit the primer, causing a misfire, worst case a hang fire but they are very rare with modern primers. If the headspace is too small the bolt won't close. No boom at all there. A bolt action usually will not shoot until the bolt is seated and a SA has a disconnector. I suppose all you gun fanciers are waiting for Fat Harry's learned response. Ask your limited experience buddies... What happens when excessive headspace makes the casing split, the gas in the chamber is not sealed, and the gas is vented into the breech. Define excessive, oh learned one. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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Its Me Wrote in message:
On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 1:32:48 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 11:43:38 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/2/18 11:25 AM, justan wrote: Its Me Wrote in message: On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 9:41:49 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 20:02:12 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Hardest part was learning how to properly headspace a barrel. Do it wrong and possible kaboom. More like a failure to go into battery, causing a failure to fire or failure to extract, causing a double feed jam. He's talking about the AR-15 he "built", and there's really nothing to headspace on one. If the barrel and receiver are properly machined to spec, it has the proper headspace built into the design. When it becomes important is when you are fitting a more traditional barrel and receiver together, and are doing the machining yourself. Let's say you have a Mauser 98 action, and you're building a 30-06 with a Shaw barrel. Then you have to check and machine in the correct headspace, and even then it's not hard to do. Another fabricated Fat Harry story? Barrels in sporting rifles don't headspace themselves automatically, and it is worth taking a few minutes to check it. If JackOff wants to take the chance of a kaboom, it is fine with me. You still have not said where the kaboom comes from. If the headspace is too large the extractor might not grab the rim, causing a jam or the firing pin might not hit the primer, causing a misfire, worst case a hang fire but they are very rare with modern primers. If the headspace is too small the bolt won't close. No boom at all there. A bolt action usually will not shoot until the bolt is seated and a SA has a disconnector. IF you have enough excessive headspace, and IF you get the round to fire, and IF the case pressure is sufficient, you can have the the case swell and/or split in that unsupported area. IF all the IF's add up perfectly. The most common symptoms are cratered or pushed back primers, rings around the base of the brass, or the brass rim being distorted. It's always a good idea to inspect your first fired casings of an outing, especially when you change loads or brands of ammo. No need to try to teach the Fat boy. He knows it all. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
Question for Fat Harry
On 8/2/18 5:29 PM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 8/2/18 3:17 PM, justan wrote: Wrote in message: On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 11:43:38 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/2/18 11:25 AM, justan wrote: Its Me Wrote in message: On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 9:41:49 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 20:02:12 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Hardest part was learning how to properly headspace a barrel. Do it wrong and possible kaboom. More like a failure to go into battery, causing a failure to fire or failure to extract, causing a double feed jam. He's talking about the AR-15 he "built", and there's really nothing to headspace on one. If the barrel and receiver are properly machined to spec, it has the proper headspace built into the design. When it becomes important is when you are fitting a more traditional barrel and receiver together, and are doing the machining yourself. Let's say you have a Mauser 98 action, and you're building a 30-06 with a Shaw barrel. Then you have to check and machine in the correct headspace, and even then it's not hard to do. Another fabricated Fat Harry story? Barrels in sporting rifles don't headspace themselves automatically, and it is worth taking a few minutes to check it. If JackOff wants to take the chance of a kaboom, it is fine with me. You still have not said where the kaboom comes from. If the headspace is too large the extractor might not grab the rim, causing a jam or the firing pin might not hit the primer, causing a misfire, worst case a hang fire but they are very rare with modern primers. If the headspace is too small the bolt won't close. No boom at all there. A bolt action usually will not shoot until the bolt is seated and a SA has a disconnector. I suppose all you gun fanciers are waiting for Fat Harry's learned response. Ask your limited experience buddies... What happens when excessive headspace makes the casing split, the gas in the chamber is not sealed, and the gas is vented into the breech. Define excessive, oh learned one. Excessive..."too much." Got it, imbecile? |
Question for Fat Harry
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 8/2/18 5:29 PM, justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 8/2/18 3:17 PM, justan wrote: Wrote in message: On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 11:43:38 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/2/18 11:25 AM, justan wrote: Its Me Wrote in message: On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 9:41:49 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 20:02:12 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Hardest part was learning how to properly headspace a barrel. Do it wrong and possible kaboom. More like a failure to go into battery, causing a failure to fire or failure to extract, causing a double feed jam. He's talking about the AR-15 he "built", and there's really nothing to headspace on one. If the barrel and receiver are properly machined to spec, it has the proper headspace built into the design. When it becomes important is when you are fitting a more traditional barrel and receiver together, and are doing the machining yourself. Let's say you have a Mauser 98 action, and you're building a 30-06 with a Shaw barrel. Then you have to check and machine in the correct headspace, and even then it's not hard to do. Another fabricated Fat Harry story? Barrels in sporting rifles don't headspace themselves automatically, and it is worth taking a few minutes to check it. If JackOff wants to take the chance of a kaboom, it is fine with me. You still have not said where the kaboom comes from. If the headspace is too large the extractor might not grab the rim, causing a jam or the firing pin might not hit the primer, causing a misfire, worst case a hang fire but they are very rare with modern primers. If the headspace is too small the bolt won't close. No boom at all there. A bolt action usually will not shoot until the bolt is seated and a SA has a disconnector. I suppose all you gun fanciers are waiting for Fat Harry's learned response. Ask your limited experience buddies... What happens when excessive headspace makes the casing split, the gas in the chamber is not sealed, and the gas is vented into the breech. Define excessive, oh learned one. Excessive..."too much." Got it, imbecile? It's no surprise that you can't express the acceptible variables in terms that are meaningful to your audience. You need to do more googleing and get more insight into the subject you pretend to know. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
Question for Fat Harry
On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 18:13:44 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/2/18 5:29 PM, justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 8/2/18 3:17 PM, justan wrote: Wrote in message: On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 11:43:38 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/2/18 11:25 AM, justan wrote: Its Me Wrote in message: On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 9:41:49 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 20:02:12 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Hardest part was learning how to properly headspace a barrel. Do it wrong and possible kaboom. More like a failure to go into battery, causing a failure to fire or failure to extract, causing a double feed jam. He's talking about the AR-15 he "built", and there's really nothing to headspace on one. If the barrel and receiver are properly machined to spec, it has the proper headspace built into the design. When it becomes important is when you are fitting a more traditional barrel and receiver together, and are doing the machining yourself. Let's say you have a Mauser 98 action, and you're building a 30-06 with a Shaw barrel. Then you have to check and machine in the correct headspace, and even then it's not hard to do. Another fabricated Fat Harry story? Barrels in sporting rifles don't headspace themselves automatically, and it is worth taking a few minutes to check it. If JackOff wants to take the chance of a kaboom, it is fine with me. You still have not said where the kaboom comes from. If the headspace is too large the extractor might not grab the rim, causing a jam or the firing pin might not hit the primer, causing a misfire, worst case a hang fire but they are very rare with modern primers. If the headspace is too small the bolt won't close. No boom at all there. A bolt action usually will not shoot until the bolt is seated and a SA has a disconnector. I suppose all you gun fanciers are waiting for Fat Harry's learned response. Ask your limited experience buddies... What happens when excessive headspace makes the casing split, the gas in the chamber is not sealed, and the gas is vented into the breech. Define excessive, oh learned one. Excessive..."too much." Got it, imbecile? When you look at the geometry, it is going to be pretty hard to get the headspace so far out of whack to cause a case rupture and still allow the firing pin to hit the primer. Obviously that will have to be a bottle neck cartridge because a straight case will not change the gap between brass and steel at all if they are set back too far. I have actually split cases when I was reloading with no particular drama anyway. That is why we wear eye protection. ;-) I had a .357 case split from the mouth almost all the way back to the rim when I went a little too far with the wrong kind of powder. (Bullseye). It was actually a load I read in a book (Cartridges of the World) but there must have been a typo or something. Lesson, always use a real reloading manual, not just an entertainment book written by a journalism major. |
Question for Fat Harry
On 8/2/18 7:10 PM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 8/2/18 5:29 PM, justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 8/2/18 3:17 PM, justan wrote: Wrote in message: On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 11:43:38 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/2/18 11:25 AM, justan wrote: Its Me Wrote in message: On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 9:41:49 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 20:02:12 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Hardest part was learning how to properly headspace a barrel. Do it wrong and possible kaboom. More like a failure to go into battery, causing a failure to fire or failure to extract, causing a double feed jam. He's talking about the AR-15 he "built", and there's really nothing to headspace on one. If the barrel and receiver are properly machined to spec, it has the proper headspace built into the design. When it becomes important is when you are fitting a more traditional barrel and receiver together, and are doing the machining yourself. Let's say you have a Mauser 98 action, and you're building a 30-06 with a Shaw barrel. Then you have to check and machine in the correct headspace, and even then it's not hard to do. Another fabricated Fat Harry story? Barrels in sporting rifles don't headspace themselves automatically, and it is worth taking a few minutes to check it. If JackOff wants to take the chance of a kaboom, it is fine with me. You still have not said where the kaboom comes from. If the headspace is too large the extractor might not grab the rim, causing a jam or the firing pin might not hit the primer, causing a misfire, worst case a hang fire but they are very rare with modern primers. If the headspace is too small the bolt won't close. No boom at all there. A bolt action usually will not shoot until the bolt is seated and a SA has a disconnector. I suppose all you gun fanciers are waiting for Fat Harry's learned response. Ask your limited experience buddies... What happens when excessive headspace makes the casing split, the gas in the chamber is not sealed, and the gas is vented into the breech. Define excessive, oh learned one. Excessive..."too much." Got it, imbecile? It's no surprise that you can't express the acceptible variables in terms that are meaningful to your audience. You need to do more googleing and get more insight into the subject you pretend to know. Here's a URL for you...perhaps you'll understand a bit of it. https://is.gd/5K7EXk |
Question for Fat Harry
On 8/2/18 7:15 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 18:13:44 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/2/18 5:29 PM, justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 8/2/18 3:17 PM, justan wrote: Wrote in message: On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 11:43:38 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/2/18 11:25 AM, justan wrote: Its Me Wrote in message: On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 9:41:49 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 20:02:12 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Hardest part was learning how to properly headspace a barrel. Do it wrong and possible kaboom. More like a failure to go into battery, causing a failure to fire or failure to extract, causing a double feed jam. He's talking about the AR-15 he "built", and there's really nothing to headspace on one. If the barrel and receiver are properly machined to spec, it has the proper headspace built into the design. When it becomes important is when you are fitting a more traditional barrel and receiver together, and are doing the machining yourself. Let's say you have a Mauser 98 action, and you're building a 30-06 with a Shaw barrel. Then you have to check and machine in the correct headspace, and even then it's not hard to do. Another fabricated Fat Harry story? Barrels in sporting rifles don't headspace themselves automatically, and it is worth taking a few minutes to check it. If JackOff wants to take the chance of a kaboom, it is fine with me. You still have not said where the kaboom comes from. If the headspace is too large the extractor might not grab the rim, causing a jam or the firing pin might not hit the primer, causing a misfire, worst case a hang fire but they are very rare with modern primers. If the headspace is too small the bolt won't close. No boom at all there. A bolt action usually will not shoot until the bolt is seated and a SA has a disconnector. I suppose all you gun fanciers are waiting for Fat Harry's learned response. Ask your limited experience buddies... What happens when excessive headspace makes the casing split, the gas in the chamber is not sealed, and the gas is vented into the breech. Define excessive, oh learned one. Excessive..."too much." Got it, imbecile? When you look at the geometry, it is going to be pretty hard to get the headspace so far out of whack to cause a case rupture and still allow the firing pin to hit the primer. Obviously that will have to be a bottle neck cartridge because a straight case will not change the gap between brass and steel at all if they are set back too far. I have actually split cases when I was reloading with no particular drama anyway. That is why we wear eye protection. ;-) I had a .357 case split from the mouth almost all the way back to the rim when I went a little too far with the wrong kind of powder. (Bullseye). It was actually a load I read in a book (Cartridges of the World) but there must have been a typo or something. Lesson, always use a real reloading manual, not just an entertainment book written by a journalism major. It's hard to think of a journalism major who has made himself/herself an expert in a field of interest to you who wouldn't know a lot more than you. But, then, you think yourself a Man for All Seasons and Reasons. |
Question for Fat Harry
On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 5:34:10 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
Its Me Wrote in message: On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 1:32:48 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 11:43:38 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/2/18 11:25 AM, justan wrote: Its Me Wrote in message: On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 9:41:49 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 20:02:12 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Hardest part was learning how to properly headspace a barrel. Do it wrong and possible kaboom. More like a failure to go into battery, causing a failure to fire or failure to extract, causing a double feed jam. He's talking about the AR-15 he "built", and there's really nothing to headspace on one. If the barrel and receiver are properly machined to spec, it has the proper headspace built into the design. When it becomes important is when you are fitting a more traditional barrel and receiver together, and are doing the machining yourself. Let's say you have a Mauser 98 action, and you're building a 30-06 with a Shaw barrel. Then you have to check and machine in the correct headspace, and even then it's not hard to do. Another fabricated Fat Harry story? Barrels in sporting rifles don't headspace themselves automatically, and it is worth taking a few minutes to check it. If JackOff wants to take the chance of a kaboom, it is fine with me. You still have not said where the kaboom comes from. If the headspace is too large the extractor might not grab the rim, causing a jam or the firing pin might not hit the primer, causing a misfire, worst case a hang fire but they are very rare with modern primers. If the headspace is too small the bolt won't close. No boom at all there. A bolt action usually will not shoot until the bolt is seated and a SA has a disconnector. IF you have enough excessive headspace, and IF you get the round to fire, and IF the case pressure is sufficient, you can have the the case swell and/or split in that unsupported area. IF all the IF's add up perfectly. The most common symptoms are cratered or pushed back primers, rings around the base of the brass, or the brass rim being distorted. It's always a good idea to inspect your first fired casings of an outing, especially when you change loads or brands of ammo. No need to try to teach the Fat boy. He knows it all. Fat Boy has to hire his lawnmower service out, but thinks he has enough mechanical knowledge to check and set the headspace on firearms. Heh, Heh... |
Question for Fat Harry
Its Me wrote:
On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 1:32:48 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 11:43:38 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/2/18 11:25 AM, justan wrote: Its Me Wrote in message: On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 9:41:49 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 20:02:12 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Hardest part was learning how to properly headspace a barrel. Do it wrong and possible kaboom. More like a failure to go into battery, causing a failure to fire or failure to extract, causing a double feed jam. He's talking about the AR-15 he "built", and there's really nothing to headspace on one. If the barrel and receiver are properly machined to spec, it has the proper headspace built into the design. When it becomes important is when you are fitting a more traditional barrel and receiver together, and are doing the machining yourself. Let's say you have a Mauser 98 action, and you're building a 30-06 with a Shaw barrel. Then you have to check and machine in the correct headspace, and even then it's not hard to do. Another fabricated Fat Harry story? Barrels in sporting rifles don't headspace themselves automatically, and it is worth taking a few minutes to check it. If JackOff wants to take the chance of a kaboom, it is fine with me. You still have not said where the kaboom comes from. If the headspace is too large the extractor might not grab the rim, causing a jam or the firing pin might not hit the primer, causing a misfire, worst case a hang fire but they are very rare with modern primers. If the headspace is too small the bolt won't close. No boom at all there. A bolt action usually will not shoot until the bolt is seated and a SA has a disconnector. IF you have enough excessive headspace, and IF you get the round to fire, and IF the case pressure is sufficient, you can have the the case swell and/or split in that unsupported area. IF all the IF's add up perfectly. The most common symptoms are cratered or pushed back primers, rings around the base of the brass, or the brass rim being distorted. It's always a good idea to inspect your first fired casings of an outing, especially when you change loads or brands of ammo. Would be more the angle for the shoulder. 5.56 will fire a .223, but the reverse is very much discouraged. |
Question for Fat Harry
On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 19:26:29 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
Here's a URL for you...perhaps you'll understand a bit of it. https://is.gd/5K7EXk I still did not see a "kaboom". |
Question for Fat Harry
On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 19:28:34 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/2/18 7:15 PM, wrote: On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 18:13:44 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/2/18 5:29 PM, justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 8/2/18 3:17 PM, justan wrote: Wrote in message: On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 11:43:38 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/2/18 11:25 AM, justan wrote: Its Me Wrote in message: On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 9:41:49 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 20:02:12 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Hardest part was learning how to properly headspace a barrel. Do it wrong and possible kaboom. More like a failure to go into battery, causing a failure to fire or failure to extract, causing a double feed jam. He's talking about the AR-15 he "built", and there's really nothing to headspace on one. If the barrel and receiver are properly machined to spec, it has the proper headspace built into the design. When it becomes important is when you are fitting a more traditional barrel and receiver together, and are doing the machining yourself. Let's say you have a Mauser 98 action, and you're building a 30-06 with a Shaw barrel. Then you have to check and machine in the correct headspace, and even then it's not hard to do. Another fabricated Fat Harry story? Barrels in sporting rifles don't headspace themselves automatically, and it is worth taking a few minutes to check it. If JackOff wants to take the chance of a kaboom, it is fine with me. You still have not said where the kaboom comes from. If the headspace is too large the extractor might not grab the rim, causing a jam or the firing pin might not hit the primer, causing a misfire, worst case a hang fire but they are very rare with modern primers. If the headspace is too small the bolt won't close. No boom at all there. A bolt action usually will not shoot until the bolt is seated and a SA has a disconnector. I suppose all you gun fanciers are waiting for Fat Harry's learned response. Ask your limited experience buddies... What happens when excessive headspace makes the casing split, the gas in the chamber is not sealed, and the gas is vented into the breech. Define excessive, oh learned one. Excessive..."too much." Got it, imbecile? When you look at the geometry, it is going to be pretty hard to get the headspace so far out of whack to cause a case rupture and still allow the firing pin to hit the primer. Obviously that will have to be a bottle neck cartridge because a straight case will not change the gap between brass and steel at all if they are set back too far. I have actually split cases when I was reloading with no particular drama anyway. That is why we wear eye protection. ;-) I had a .357 case split from the mouth almost all the way back to the rim when I went a little too far with the wrong kind of powder. (Bullseye). It was actually a load I read in a book (Cartridges of the World) but there must have been a typo or something. Lesson, always use a real reloading manual, not just an entertainment book written by a journalism major. It's hard to think of a journalism major who has made himself/herself an expert in a field of interest to you who wouldn't know a lot more than you. But, then, you think yourself a Man for All Seasons and Reasons. I will venture to say I have head spaced more guns than you. I could head space an M2 in the dark. (after I put it together from a field strip) You get bored on the ship after a few weeks at sea. ;-) I am not talking about twilight. I mean a water tight compartment with the lights off. |
Question for Fat Harry
On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 11:10:27 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 19:26:29 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Here's a URL for you...perhaps you'll understand a bit of it. https://is.gd/5K7EXk I still did not see a "kaboom". And his linked article was for bolt action rifles. The only rifle he's ever talked about building and checking headspace on is an AR-15... a completely different beast. Again, Fat Boy is full of ****, and google is not his friend. |
Question for Fat Harry
On 8/2/18 11:10 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 19:26:29 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Here's a URL for you...perhaps you'll understand a bit of it. https://is.gd/5K7EXk I still did not see a "kaboom". No, it was a response to Just-A-Moron, who apparently wanted to know what "excessive headspace" was. Try to follow along, eh, fella? :) |
Question for Fat Harry
On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 07:17:15 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/2/18 11:10 PM, wrote: On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 19:26:29 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Here's a URL for you...perhaps you'll understand a bit of it. https://is.gd/5K7EXk I still did not see a "kaboom". No, it was a response to Just-A-Moron, who apparently wanted to know what "excessive headspace" was. Try to follow along, eh, fella? :) We tried to follow along with your Vietnam story. But...it ended when questioned. |
Question for Fat Harry
On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 07:17:15 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/2/18 11:10 PM, wrote: On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 19:26:29 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Here's a URL for you...perhaps you'll understand a bit of it. https://is.gd/5K7EXk I still did not see a "kaboom". No, it was a response to Just-A-Moron, who apparently wanted to know what "excessive headspace" was. Try to follow along, eh, fella? :) I was following along, waiting to hear about the kaboom you said was going to happen. I think that is somewhere near the range fire a spark from a BiMetal bullet started or the gas pump fire the cell phone started. Americans will believe anything. |
Question for Fat Harry
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 07:17:15 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/2/18 11:10 PM, wrote: On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 19:26:29 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Here's a URL for you...perhaps you'll understand a bit of it. https://is.gd/5K7EXk I still did not see a "kaboom". No, it was a response to Just-A-Moron, who apparently wanted to know what "excessive headspace" was. Try to follow along, eh, fella? :) We tried to follow along with your Vietnam story. But...it ended when questioned. True. |
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