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On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 11:31:31 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 7/4/2018 11:18 AM, wrote: On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 10:35:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 7/3/18 10:05 PM, wrote: On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 13:03:29 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: Wow...that would cost a small fortune in baggage fees, coming and going, up here. Wife is heading off to Toronto for 5 days in the middle of the month and she's trying to pack everything into a carry on bag plus a large over the shoulder bag. We'll see how that works out. Buy a better plane ticket and you don't pay baggage fees. Well, it'll take a much bigger luggage fee to come out ahead. I bought our two tickets in coach and paid a bit extra per seat to get the Emergency Exit row for each of us. These have sufficient legroom to get comfortable. The tickets were $640 each *less* than first class. My wife has a big rolling suitcase that if she packs carefully stays under 50 pounds and if she is a little over, the shoes end up in my smaller, lighter suitcase. So, what would we be missing in first class? Some crappy microwaved airline meal, as opposed to the sandwiches and snacks we'll buy in the airport to take on board. Airline travel is a big enough rip-off as it is. Why hand them even more $$$ to be inconvenienced with a ****ty means of travel. Quite simply, they treat you nicer. A first class seat is still bigger than any coach seat, you don't have anyone with their elbow in your lap. You get on and off the plane faster, lines at the counter are pretty much non existent, baggage comes off the plane first. They usually have an express line through TSS, free drinks etc. BTW those baggage (and other) fees add up pretty fast. It is a ****ty way to travel but less so up front and I am willing to pay to be treated nicer. If you want to be cattle prodded back to your cheap seats and be uncomfortable for 5 hours or so, go for it. I might be OK in an exit row seat going from here to Atlanta but not to the west coast. Airlines used to have a "business class" for the long haul flights. Cheaper than First Class but much better than coach. I guess those days are gone. That usually defaults to First Class when you look up the fare. On international flights they usually have "Premium Economy" that is a reasonable compromise. We did that going to New Zealand. That may be what Business Class became. They were individual seats in a zig zag pattern so you had fill stretched out leg room and a console between the seats. It was better than regular 1st class. On the way from LAX to ATL Delta put us on an international plane in 1st class and those were real nice seats (lay flat). Unfortunately for those folks back in the cattle car, the seats were the same as what you would fly on a short flight. I can't imagine 6-12 hours in a coach seat. |
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On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 16:15:35 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: wrote: On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 10:35:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 7/3/18 10:05 PM, wrote: On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 13:03:29 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: Wow...that would cost a small fortune in baggage fees, coming and going, up here. Wife is heading off to Toronto for 5 days in the middle of the month and she's trying to pack everything into a carry on bag plus a large over the shoulder bag. We'll see how that works out. Buy a better plane ticket and you don't pay baggage fees. Well, it'll take a much bigger luggage fee to come out ahead. I bought our two tickets in coach and paid a bit extra per seat to get the Emergency Exit row for each of us. These have sufficient legroom to get comfortable. The tickets were $640 each *less* than first class. My wife has a big rolling suitcase that if she packs carefully stays under 50 pounds and if she is a little over, the shoes end up in my smaller, lighter suitcase. So, what would we be missing in first class? Some crappy microwaved airline meal, as opposed to the sandwiches and snacks we'll buy in the airport to take on board. Airline travel is a big enough rip-off as it is. Why hand them even more $$$ to be inconvenienced with a ****ty means of travel. Quite simply, they treat you nicer. A first class seat is still bigger than any coach seat, you don't have anyone with their elbow in your lap. You get on and off the plane faster, lines at the counter are pretty much non existent, baggage comes off the plane first. They usually have an express line through TSS, free drinks etc. BTW those baggage (and other) fees add up pretty fast. It is a ****ty way to travel but less so up front and I am willing to pay to be treated nicer. If you want to be cattle prodded back to your cheap seats and be uncomfortable for 5 hours or so, go for it. I might be OK in an exit row seat going from here to Atlanta but not to the west coast. The bad part about upgrading these days are the exorbitant charges. When we went Dallas to Johannesburg was $1400 coach, which did include meals and drinks. To move up to Business was an EXTRA $5700. When I use to fly to Asia, business class was only 50% more. We are going to Kauai later this year. Economy Plus is an extra $80 each way. Which is not that bad. Which means you are paying $155 more than the $25 baggage fee for one checked bag. Expensive meals, Premium Economy was a bit over $4k each LAX to New Zealand. The flight from here to LA was extra. When we went to Montana the 1st class upgrade was only $300 over the price of a "Y" fare. The cheapest coach fare is not upgradable. I think the total was still only $700 or something tho. I don't really care when we are going on vacation. We are spending so much a little more for a decent plane ride is worth doing. |
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On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 12:53:39 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 16:15:35 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 10:35:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 7/3/18 10:05 PM, wrote: On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 13:03:29 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: Wow...that would cost a small fortune in baggage fees, coming and going, up here. Wife is heading off to Toronto for 5 days in the middle of the month and she's trying to pack everything into a carry on bag plus a large over the shoulder bag. We'll see how that works out. Buy a better plane ticket and you don't pay baggage fees. Well, it'll take a much bigger luggage fee to come out ahead. I bought our two tickets in coach and paid a bit extra per seat to get the Emergency Exit row for each of us. These have sufficient legroom to get comfortable. The tickets were $640 each *less* than first class. My wife has a big rolling suitcase that if she packs carefully stays under 50 pounds and if she is a little over, the shoes end up in my smaller, lighter suitcase. So, what would we be missing in first class? Some crappy microwaved airline meal, as opposed to the sandwiches and snacks we'll buy in the airport to take on board. Airline travel is a big enough rip-off as it is. Why hand them even more $$$ to be inconvenienced with a ****ty means of travel. Quite simply, they treat you nicer. A first class seat is still bigger than any coach seat, you don't have anyone with their elbow in your lap. You get on and off the plane faster, lines at the counter are pretty much non existent, baggage comes off the plane first. They usually have an express line through TSS, free drinks etc. BTW those baggage (and other) fees add up pretty fast. It is a ****ty way to travel but less so up front and I am willing to pay to be treated nicer. If you want to be cattle prodded back to your cheap seats and be uncomfortable for 5 hours or so, go for it. I might be OK in an exit row seat going from here to Atlanta but not to the west coast. The bad part about upgrading these days are the exorbitant charges. When we went Dallas to Johannesburg was $1400 coach, which did include meals and drinks. To move up to Business was an EXTRA $5700. When I use to fly to Asia, business class was only 50% more. We are going to Kauai later this year. Economy Plus is an extra $80 each way. Which is not that bad. Which means you are paying $155 more than the $25 baggage fee for one checked bag. Expensive meals, Premium Economy was a bit over $4k each LAX to New Zealand. The flight from here to LA was extra. When we went to Montana the 1st class upgrade was only $300 over the price of a "Y" fare. The cheapest coach fare is not upgradable. I think the total was still only $700 or something tho. I don't really care when we are going on vacation. We are spending so much a little more for a decent plane ride is worth doing. About 4 years ago we went on a fairly last minute vacation. Checking on the Delta flight, the first class upgrade was only $25 each way per seat. We snagged four of those seats real fast (going with another couple). Coach was full, but first was empty. They wanted to fill the seats. |
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On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 12:39:13 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 7/4/18 12:15 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 10:35:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 7/3/18 10:05 PM, wrote: On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 13:03:29 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: Wow...that would cost a small fortune in baggage fees, coming and going, up here. Wife is heading off to Toronto for 5 days in the middle of the month and she's trying to pack everything into a carry on bag plus a large over the shoulder bag. We'll see how that works out. Buy a better plane ticket and you don't pay baggage fees. Well, it'll take a much bigger luggage fee to come out ahead. I bought our two tickets in coach and paid a bit extra per seat to get the Emergency Exit row for each of us. These have sufficient legroom to get comfortable. The tickets were $640 each *less* than first class. My wife has a big rolling suitcase that if she packs carefully stays under 50 pounds and if she is a little over, the shoes end up in my smaller, lighter suitcase. So, what would we be missing in first class? Some crappy microwaved airline meal, as opposed to the sandwiches and snacks we'll buy in the airport to take on board. Airline travel is a big enough rip-off as it is. Why hand them even more $$$ to be inconvenienced with a ****ty means of travel. Quite simply, they treat you nicer. A first class seat is still bigger than any coach seat, you don't have anyone with their elbow in your lap. You get on and off the plane faster, lines at the counter are pretty much non existent, baggage comes off the plane first. They usually have an express line through TSS, free drinks etc. BTW those baggage (and other) fees add up pretty fast. It is a ****ty way to travel but less so up front and I am willing to pay to be treated nicer. If you want to be cattle prodded back to your cheap seats and be uncomfortable for 5 hours or so, go for it. I might be OK in an exit row seat going from here to Atlanta but not to the west coast. The bad part about upgrading these days are the exorbitant charges. When we went Dallas to Johannesburg was $1400 coach, which did include meals and drinks. To move up to Business was an EXTRA $5700. When I use to fly to Asia, business class was only 50% more. We are going to Kauai later this year. Economy Plus is an extra $80 each way. Which is not that bad. Which means you are paying $155 more than the $25 baggage fee for one checked bag. Expensive meals, Most of the planes that travel within the USA seem to only offer steerage and first class, which is what our flight from DCA has... Most of the Delta flights have an upgraded coach section (Comfort+) that has more legroom, priority boarding, and free drinks. AA just charges you more for a better seat location. Don't know about United, wouldn't fly them unless absolutely necessary. |
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On Wednesday, 4 July 2018 10:54:40 UTC-3, justan wrote: Wrote in message: On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 13:03:29 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: Wow...that would cost a small fortune in baggage fees, coming and going, up here. Wife is heading off to Toronto for 5 days in the middle of the month and she's trying to pack everything into a carry on bag plus a large over the shoulder bag. We'll see how that works out. Buy a better plane ticket and you don't pay baggage fees. Thrifty Don wouldn't think of it. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ Neighbourhood lady was going up to an Eagles concert and hated the idea of traveling alone. She used her air miles to pay for my wife's trip..except for the small portion that had to be paid by flyer. $152.00 for round trip flight to Toronto in the middle of summer. Cheap by Canadian prices. They may sound a little flat without the lead singer. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Wednesday, 4 July 2018 10:54:40 UTC-3, justan wrote: Wrote in message: On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 13:03:29 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: Wow...that would cost a small fortune in baggage fees, coming and going, up here. Wife is heading off to Toronto for 5 days in the middle of the month and she's trying to pack everything into a carry on bag plus a large over the shoulder bag. We'll see how that works out. Buy a better plane ticket and you don't pay baggage fees. Thrifty Don wouldn't think of it. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ Neighbourhood lady was going up to an Eagles concert and hated the idea of traveling alone. She used her air miles to pay for my wife's trip..except for the small portion that had to be paid by flyer. $152.00 for round trip flight to Toronto in the middle of summer. Cheap by Canadian prices. They may sound a little flat without the lead singer. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 7/3/18 10:05 PM, wrote: On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 13:03:29 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: Wow...that would cost a small fortune in baggage fees, coming and going, up here. Wife is heading off to Toronto for 5 days in the middle of the month and she's trying to pack everything into a carry on bag plus a large over the shoulder bag. We'll see how that works out. Buy a better plane ticket and you don't pay baggage fees. Well, it'll take a much bigger luggage fee to come out ahead. I bought our two tickets in coach and paid a bit extra per seat to get the Emergency Exit row for each of us. These have sufficient legroom to get comfortable. The tickets were $640 each *less* than first class. My wife has a big rolling suitcase that if she packs carefully stays under 50 pounds and if she is a little over, the shoes end up in my smaller, lighter suitcase. So, what would we be missing in first class? Some crappy microwaved airline meal, as opposed to the sandwiches and snacks we'll buy in the airport to take on board. Airline travel is a big enough rip-off as it is. Why hand them even more $$$ to be inconvenienced with a ****ty means of travel. You're getting thrifty in your old age. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 7/4/2018 10:35 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 7/3/18 10:05 PM, wrote: On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 13:03:29 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: Wow...that would cost a small fortune in baggage fees, coming and going, up here. Wife is heading off to Toronto for 5 days in the middle of the month and she's trying to pack everything into a carry on bag plus a large over the shoulder bag. We'll see how that works out. Buy a better plane ticket and you don't pay baggage fees. Well, it'll take a much bigger luggage fee to come out ahead. I bought our two tickets in coach and paid a bit extra per seat to get the Emergency Exit row for each of us. These have sufficient legroom to get comfortable. The tickets were $640 each *less* than first class. My wife has a big rolling suitcase that if she packs carefully stays under 50 pounds and if she is a little over, the shoes end up in my smaller, lighter suitcase. So, what would we be missing in first class? Some crappy microwaved airline meal, as opposed to the sandwiches and snacks we'll buy in the airport to take on board. Airline travel is a big enough rip-off as it is. Why hand them even more $$$ to be inconvenienced with a ****ty means of travel. You might want to look into buying or renting an RV. You can take all the luggage and food you want while saving big bucks by not staying in crappy, bedbug ridden hotel rooms. :-) My luggage capacity is 3700 lbs. We've never gone overweight. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 7/4/18 12:15 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 10:35:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 7/3/18 10:05 PM, wrote: On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 13:03:29 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: Wow...that would cost a small fortune in baggage fees, coming and going, up here. Wife is heading off to Toronto for 5 days in the middle of the month and she's trying to pack everything into a carry on bag plus a large over the shoulder bag. We'll see how that works out. Buy a better plane ticket and you don't pay baggage fees. Well, it'll take a much bigger luggage fee to come out ahead. I bought our two tickets in coach and paid a bit extra per seat to get the Emergency Exit row for each of us. These have sufficient legroom to get comfortable. The tickets were $640 each *less* than first class. My wife has a big rolling suitcase that if she packs carefully stays under 50 pounds and if she is a little over, the shoes end up in my smaller, lighter suitcase. So, what would we be missing in first class? Some crappy microwaved airline meal, as opposed to the sandwiches and snacks we'll buy in the airport to take on board. Airline travel is a big enough rip-off as it is. Why hand them even more $$$ to be inconvenienced with a ****ty means of travel. Quite simply, they treat you nicer. A first class seat is still bigger than any coach seat, you don't have anyone with their elbow in your lap. You get on and off the plane faster, lines at the counter are pretty much non existent, baggage comes off the plane first. They usually have an express line through TSS, free drinks etc. BTW those baggage (and other) fees add up pretty fast. It is a ****ty way to travel but less so up front and I am willing to pay to be treated nicer. If you want to be cattle prodded back to your cheap seats and be uncomfortable for 5 hours or so, go for it. I might be OK in an exit row seat going from here to Atlanta but not to the west coast. The bad part about upgrading these days are the exorbitant charges. When we went Dallas to Johannesburg was $1400 coach, which did include meals and drinks. To move up to Business was an EXTRA $5700. When I use to fly to Asia, business class was only 50% more. We are going to Kauai later this year. Economy Plus is an extra $80 each way. Which is not that bad. Which means you are paying $155 more than the $25 baggage fee for one checked bag. Expensive meals, Most of the planes that travel within the USA seem to only offer steerage and first class, which is what our flight from DCA has... 3000 miles within the good old usa that should narrow it down a bit. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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