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John H.[_5_] June 10th 18 08:31 PM

Pontoon II
 
On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 06:17:02 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote:

On Sunday, June 10, 2018 at 2:03:57 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 19:03:06 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Its Me
- show quoted text -
That's why you use some sense and don't snapchat while you are towing.

I can't wait until they make cell phones disabled while moving over 5mph.
........

I’m really not that big on Bluetooth either. My wife’s Honda CRV is rigged so the phone comes over the radio. I think that’s better. But conversations are slurred.


There are plenty of studies that say talking on the phone is almost as
dangerous hands free as it is holding the phone. That is one Harry
can't get mad at me about. I don't have a phone with me 99.99% of the
time. I use about 20 minutes a year.


And then you have the people texting while they drive. Going slow in the fast lane, swerving all over. As I pass and look over to see them looking down at their phone, I blow the horn. Their head snaps up and just maybe, they get the message. Idiots.


Ditto.

[email protected] June 11th 18 04:40 AM

Pontoon II
 
On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 14:39:11 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 6/10/18 12:28 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 15:56:05 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 19:03:06 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Its Me
- show quoted text -
That's why you use some sense and don't snapchat while you are towing.

I can't wait until they make cell phones disabled while moving over 5mph.
........

I’m really not that big on Bluetooth either. My wife’s Honda CRV is
rigged so the phone comes over the radio. I think that’s better. But
conversations are slurred.

There are plenty of studies that say talking on the phone is almost as
dangerous hands free as it is holding the phone. That is one Harry
can't get mad at me about. I don't have a phone with me 99.99% of the
time. I use about 20 minutes a year.


Going fishing the other day, I stop for a light. Lady next to me actually
gets stopped. In one hand is the phone, other hand a cigarette. We have
had it illegal to hold the phone to use in the car for years. Can not
believe how many still do. And new cars, which you know have Bluetooth
built in.


It actually turns out holding the phone is not the distraction, it is
the conversation itself. Holding the phone is not as much of a
distraction as a cigarette or a cup of coffee. Nobody ever got burned
by a phone falling in their lap.


It probably is the dialing and texting that results in the most
phone-related accidents.


I agree about the texting. We were texting when most people didn't
think they would ever have a cell phone (1985 or so).
Even on a motorola PT "brick" (not the phone) with a half way decent
keyboard and display we knew it was pretty dangerous. We still did it
tho but usually when we were stopped.
The only "texting and driving accident" I ever had was using old
school texting, writing on a clipboard. I hit a curb in a parking lot.

[email protected] June 11th 18 04:42 AM

Pontoon II
 
On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 15:30:53 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 02:04:15 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 19:03:06 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Its Me
- show quoted text -
That's why you use some sense and don't snapchat while you are towing.

I can't wait until they make cell phones disabled while moving over 5mph.
........

I’m really not that big on Bluetooth either. My wife’s Honda CRV is rigged so the phone comes over the radio. I think that’s better. But conversations are slurred.


There are plenty of studies that say talking on the phone is almost as
dangerous hands free as it is holding the phone. That is one Harry
can't get mad at me about. I don't have a phone with me 99.99% of the
time. I use about 20 minutes a year.


I don't see how talking over the radio can be any more distracting than talking to someone in the
car, especially if they're in the back seat.


I suppose it depends on what you are talking about and how much you
have to think about it. I am just citing studies.

John H.[_5_] June 11th 18 11:52 AM

Pontoon II
 
On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 23:42:26 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 15:30:53 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 02:04:15 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 19:03:06 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Its Me
- show quoted text -
That's why you use some sense and don't snapchat while you are towing.

I can't wait until they make cell phones disabled while moving over 5mph.
........

I’m really not that big on Bluetooth either. My wife’s Honda CRV is rigged so the phone comes over the radio. I think that’s better. But conversations are slurred.

There are plenty of studies that say talking on the phone is almost as
dangerous hands free as it is holding the phone. That is one Harry
can't get mad at me about. I don't have a phone with me 99.99% of the
time. I use about 20 minutes a year.


I don't see how talking over the radio can be any more distracting than talking to someone in the
car, especially if they're in the back seat.


I suppose it depends on what you are talking about and how much you
have to think about it. I am just citing studies.


Having participated in lots of 'studies' (as an OR/SA guy in the Army), I believe I can say that
most studies end up saying what the proponent of the study wants it to say.

[email protected] June 11th 18 05:43 PM

Pontoon II
 
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 06:52:58 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 23:42:26 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 15:30:53 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 02:04:15 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 19:03:06 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Its Me
- show quoted text -
That's why you use some sense and don't snapchat while you are towing.

I can't wait until they make cell phones disabled while moving over 5mph.
........

I’m really not that big on Bluetooth either. My wife’s Honda CRV is rigged so the phone comes over the radio. I think that’s better. But conversations are slurred.

There are plenty of studies that say talking on the phone is almost as
dangerous hands free as it is holding the phone. That is one Harry
can't get mad at me about. I don't have a phone with me 99.99% of the
time. I use about 20 minutes a year.

I don't see how talking over the radio can be any more distracting than talking to someone in the
car, especially if they're in the back seat.


I suppose it depends on what you are talking about and how much you
have to think about it. I am just citing studies.


Having participated in lots of 'studies' (as an OR/SA guy in the Army), I believe I can say that
most studies end up saying what the proponent of the study wants it to say.


I agree about studies but I also understand that if you are in a
serious conversation that takes a lot of thought, you are not thinking
about the road. That would really be true if you were flipping through
some papers on your seat looking for an answer to a question but I
understand that is a separate issue. It is still a fact that a lot of
people use their car as an office these days and I see them doing all
sorts of stuff on the road.
It still may not be as distracting as a mom trying to see what the
kids are doing in the back seat tho. ;-)
That is the down side of not letting kids ride in the front.


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