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Mr. Luddite[_4_] April 17th 18 09:12 PM

Syrian air defenses ...
 


Syria is reporting that they shot down some missiles fired today.

Heh. Propaganda at work or a severe time delay. Ours were fired
at them 3 days ago.

Some people have speculated that the Russians actually fired some
today at a Syrian air base to try and figure out why the defense
systems didn't work last Friday.


[email protected] April 17th 18 10:27 PM

Syrian air defenses ...
 
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 16:12:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Some people have speculated that the Russians actually fired some
today at a Syrian air base to try and figure out why the defense
systems didn't work last Friday.


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Two words: Electronic Countermeasures (ECM), with maybe a bit of
stealth technology for good luck.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_countermeasure

That should give the Russians, and their client states, something to
worry about.

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Mr. Luddite[_4_] April 17th 18 10:40 PM

Syrian air defenses ...
 
On 4/17/2018 5:27 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 16:12:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Some people have speculated that the Russians actually fired some
today at a Syrian air base to try and figure out why the defense
systems didn't work last Friday.


===

Two words: Electronic Countermeasures (ECM), with maybe a bit of
stealth technology for good luck.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_countermeasure

That should give the Russians, and their client states, something to
worry about.


I think our technology is very advanced in these systems.
I actually had the opportunity to do some work on a system
used to optically confuse incoming missiles by generating
"pulses" of energy at certain wavelengths that made the aircraft
appear to be somewhere else in the sky.

Not sure if they are employed in Tomahawk cruise missiles though.
They might be.

One of the advantages of the Tomahawk is that it flies to it's
destination at about 550 mph but at very low altitudes. Depending on
the terrain, it can fly less than 50 feet above the ground, putting
it in the "grass" for air search radar.

Tim April 18th 18 02:52 AM

Syrian air defenses ...
 

On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 16:12:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Some people have speculated that the Russians actually fired some
today at a Syrian air base to try and figure out why the defense
systems didn't work last Friday.


===

Two words: Electronic Countermeasures (ECM), with maybe a bit of
stealth technology for good luck.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_countermeasure

That should give the Russians, and their client states, something to
worry about.

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For some reason I’m now reminded of a ww2 movie line where the Russians were invading Germany and for some weird reason the Russians were amazed at the “modern” flush toilet and some thought it was an automatic potato washer.

Though thought as a modern army they might have a ways to go...

[email protected] April 18th 18 04:13 AM

Syrian air defenses ...
 
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 18:52:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 16:12:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Some people have speculated that the Russians actually fired some
today at a Syrian air base to try and figure out why the defense
systems didn't work last Friday.


===

Two words: Electronic Countermeasures (ECM), with maybe a bit of
stealth technology for good luck.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_countermeasure

That should give the Russians, and their client states, something to
worry about.

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......

For some reason I’m now reminded of a ww2 movie line where the Russians were invading Germany and for some weird reason the Russians were amazed at the “modern” flush toilet and some thought it was an automatic potato washer.

Though thought as a modern army they might have a ways to go...


Don't forget how we have been getting to the ISS since the end of the
GW administration. They are not all that backward. Even in WWII they
had one of the best tanks in the war.
I do understand they got their rocket technology from the Germans but
so did we. They were also very good at stealing technology from us ...
and they still are.

Tim April 18th 18 04:26 AM

Syrian air defenses ...
 

10:13
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 18:52:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
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Don't forget how we have been getting to the ISS since the end of the
GW administration. They are not all that backward. Even in WWII they
had one of the best tanks in the war.
I do understand they got their rocket technology from the Germans but
so did we. They were also very good at stealing technology from us ...
and they still are.
.............

Oh I agree! The movie was talking (I take it) about the typical “farm boy” soldier that had never seen running water and was marveled at the convenience.

Sure they’re smart. But maybe not “that” smart.

[email protected] April 18th 18 04:38 AM

Syrian air defenses ...
 
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 20:26:28 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


10:13
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 18:52:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
- show quoted text -
Don't forget how we have been getting to the ISS since the end of the
GW administration. They are not all that backward. Even in WWII they
had one of the best tanks in the war.
I do understand they got their rocket technology from the Germans but
so did we. They were also very good at stealing technology from us ...
and they still are.
............

Oh I agree! The movie was talking (I take it) about the typical “farm boy” soldier that had never seen running water and was marveled at the convenience.

Sure they’re smart. But maybe not “that” smart.


Let's not get too silly here. I bet there were American farm boys in
the 40s who saw their first flush toilet in boot camp.
When my father in law moved from the farm near Paoli Indiana to Kokomo
(1940s), he said it was the first time he had indoor plumbing. They
had it in town but not out at his family farm.


Tim April 18th 18 08:44 AM

Syrian air defenses ...
 
On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 10:38:16 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 20:26:28 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


10:13
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 18:52:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
- show quoted text -
Don't forget how we have been getting to the ISS since the end of the
GW administration. They are not all that backward. Even in WWII they
had one of the best tanks in the war.
I do understand they got their rocket technology from the Germans but
so did we. They were also very good at stealing technology from us ...
and they still are.
............

Oh I agree! The movie was talking (I take it) about the typical “farm boy” soldier that had never seen running water and was marveled at the convenience.

Sure they’re smart. But maybe not “that” smart.


Let's not get too silly here. I bet there were American farm boys in
the 40s who saw their first flush toilet in boot camp.


Probably. the big difference is thi is the US and not Russia.


When my father in law moved from the farm near Paoli Indiana to Kokomo
(1940s), he said it was the first time he had indoor plumbing. They
had it in town but not out at his family farm.


My Fraternal grand parents didn't have running water and indoor plumbing on their farm until 1956


True North[_2_] April 18th 18 01:17 PM

Syrian air defenses ...
 
When we visited my Cape Breton grandparents all through the '50s and very early '60s we used an outhouse and water was delivered from a well by a hand pump mounted at the kitchen sink.

Tim April 18th 18 02:18 PM

Syrian air defenses ...
 

7:17 AMTrue North
When we visited my Cape Breton grandparents all through the '50s and very early '60s we used an outhouse and water was delivered from a well by a hand pump mounted at the kitchen sink.

.............


Yessir. I was still a baby when my grandparents got rid of the wood cook stove and got an electric range in the mid-1950s


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