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Syria is reporting that they shot down some missiles fired today. Heh. Propaganda at work or a severe time delay. Ours were fired at them 3 days ago. Some people have speculated that the Russians actually fired some today at a Syrian air base to try and figure out why the defense systems didn't work last Friday. |
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On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 16:12:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: Some people have speculated that the Russians actually fired some today at a Syrian air base to try and figure out why the defense systems didn't work last Friday. === Two words: Electronic Countermeasures (ECM), with maybe a bit of stealth technology for good luck. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_countermeasure That should give the Russians, and their client states, something to worry about. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 16:12:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Some people have speculated that the Russians actually fired some today at a Syrian air base to try and figure out why the defense systems didn't work last Friday. === Two words: Electronic Countermeasures (ECM), with maybe a bit of stealth technology for good luck. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_countermeasure That should give the Russians, and their client states, something to worry about. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ....... For some reason I’m now reminded of a ww2 movie line where the Russians were invading Germany and for some weird reason the Russians were amazed at the “modern” flush toilet and some thought it was an automatic potato washer. Though thought as a modern army they might have a ways to go... |
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On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 18:52:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 16:12:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Some people have speculated that the Russians actually fired some today at a Syrian air base to try and figure out why the defense systems didn't work last Friday. === Two words: Electronic Countermeasures (ECM), with maybe a bit of stealth technology for good luck. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_countermeasure That should give the Russians, and their client states, something to worry about. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ...... For some reason I’m now reminded of a ww2 movie line where the Russians were invading Germany and for some weird reason the Russians were amazed at the “modern” flush toilet and some thought it was an automatic potato washer. Though thought as a modern army they might have a ways to go... Don't forget how we have been getting to the ISS since the end of the GW administration. They are not all that backward. Even in WWII they had one of the best tanks in the war. I do understand they got their rocket technology from the Germans but so did we. They were also very good at stealing technology from us ... and they still are. |
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10:13 On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 18:52:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: - show quoted text - Don't forget how we have been getting to the ISS since the end of the GW administration. They are not all that backward. Even in WWII they had one of the best tanks in the war. I do understand they got their rocket technology from the Germans but so did we. They were also very good at stealing technology from us ... and they still are. ............. Oh I agree! The movie was talking (I take it) about the typical “farm boy” soldier that had never seen running water and was marveled at the convenience. Sure they’re smart. But maybe not “that” smart. |
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On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 20:26:28 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: 10:13 On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 18:52:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: - show quoted text - Don't forget how we have been getting to the ISS since the end of the GW administration. They are not all that backward. Even in WWII they had one of the best tanks in the war. I do understand they got their rocket technology from the Germans but so did we. They were also very good at stealing technology from us ... and they still are. ............ Oh I agree! The movie was talking (I take it) about the typical “farm boy” soldier that had never seen running water and was marveled at the convenience. Sure they’re smart. But maybe not “that” smart. Let's not get too silly here. I bet there were American farm boys in the 40s who saw their first flush toilet in boot camp. When my father in law moved from the farm near Paoli Indiana to Kokomo (1940s), he said it was the first time he had indoor plumbing. They had it in town but not out at his family farm. |
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On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 10:38:16 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 20:26:28 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: 10:13 On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 18:52:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: - show quoted text - Don't forget how we have been getting to the ISS since the end of the GW administration. They are not all that backward. Even in WWII they had one of the best tanks in the war. I do understand they got their rocket technology from the Germans but so did we. They were also very good at stealing technology from us ... and they still are. ............ Oh I agree! The movie was talking (I take it) about the typical “farm boy” soldier that had never seen running water and was marveled at the convenience. Sure they’re smart. But maybe not “that” smart. Let's not get too silly here. I bet there were American farm boys in the 40s who saw their first flush toilet in boot camp. Probably. the big difference is thi is the US and not Russia. When my father in law moved from the farm near Paoli Indiana to Kokomo (1940s), he said it was the first time he had indoor plumbing. They had it in town but not out at his family farm. My Fraternal grand parents didn't have running water and indoor plumbing on their farm until 1956 |
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When we visited my Cape Breton grandparents all through the '50s and very early '60s we used an outhouse and water was delivered from a well by a hand pump mounted at the kitchen sink.
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7:17 AMTrue North When we visited my Cape Breton grandparents all through the '50s and very early '60s we used an outhouse and water was delivered from a well by a hand pump mounted at the kitchen sink. ............. Yessir. I was still a baby when my grandparents got rid of the wood cook stove and got an electric range in the mid-1950s |
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Tim Wrote in message:
7:17 AMTrue North When we visited my Cape Breton grandparents all through the '50s and very early '60s we used an outhouse and water was delivered from a well by a hand pump mounted at the kitchen sink. ............ Yessir. I was still a baby when my grandparents got rid of the wood cook stove and got an electric range in the mid-1950s It is somewhat of a backward Province, isn't it? -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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8:53 AMjustan Tim Wrote in message: - show quoted text - It is somewhat of a backward Province, isn't it? -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ .......... Well in the 50s southern Illinois sure was lol. Come to think of it. Still is!😆 |
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On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 11:38:16 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 20:26:28 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: 10:13 On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 18:52:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: - show quoted text - Don't forget how we have been getting to the ISS since the end of the GW administration. They are not all that backward. Even in WWII they had one of the best tanks in the war. I do understand they got their rocket technology from the Germans but so did we. They were also very good at stealing technology from us ... and they still are. ............ Oh I agree! The movie was talking (I take it) about the typical “farm boy” soldier that had never seen running water and was marveled at the convenience. Sure they’re smart. But maybe not “that” smart. Let's not get too silly here. I bet there were American farm boys in the 40s who saw their first flush toilet in boot camp. When my father in law moved from the farm near Paoli Indiana to Kokomo (1940s), he said it was the first time he had indoor plumbing. They had it in town but not out at his family farm. Growing up we would occasionally visit my great aunt and uncle who lived 6-8 miles out of town in the country. They had a hand pump and tin cup on the back porch for drinking water, an outhouse and a wood stove. My wife's dad grew up poor in very rural south Georgia, and said that the chickens would peck their feet through the floorboards of the house. I suspect that's why he lived a frugal life, worked a full-time job and roofed houses on the side. He's very comfortable in his retirement now. Most kids these days want it all now, and don't have a clue what it's like to make it with what you have, and to work hard and save to do better later.. |
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On Wednesday, 18 April 2018 10:18:18 UTC-3, Tim wrote:
7:17 AMTrue North When we visited my Cape Breton grandparents all through the '50s and very early '60s we used an outhouse and water was delivered from a well by a hand pump mounted at the kitchen sink. ............ Yessir. I was still a baby when my grandparents got rid of the wood cook stove and got an electric range in the mid-1950s I remember the old wood burning kitchen stove. It also heated water. Not sure if it was a Kemac or something similar but the house always had a familiar odor that I instantly recognized on our once a year visits. |
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On Wednesday, 18 April 2018 11:17:14 UTC-3, Tim wrote:
8:53 AMjustan Tim Wrote in message: - show quoted text - It is somewhat of a backward Province, isn't it? -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ ......... Well in the 50s southern Illinois sure was lol. Come to think of it. Still is!😆 That's amusing...Justine talking "backward"! Imagine rural Floriduh in those days.... |
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On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 00:44:18 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 10:38:16 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 20:26:28 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: 10:13 On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 18:52:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: - show quoted text - Don't forget how we have been getting to the ISS since the end of the GW administration. They are not all that backward. Even in WWII they had one of the best tanks in the war. I do understand they got their rocket technology from the Germans but so did we. They were also very good at stealing technology from us ... and they still are. ............ Oh I agree! The movie was talking (I take it) about the typical “farm boy” soldier that had never seen running water and was marveled at the convenience. Sure they’re smart. But maybe not “that” smart. Let's not get too silly here. I bet there were American farm boys in the 40s who saw their first flush toilet in boot camp. Probably. the big difference is thi is the US and not Russia. When my father in law moved from the farm near Paoli Indiana to Kokomo (1940s), he said it was the first time he had indoor plumbing. They had it in town but not out at his family farm. My Fraternal grand parents didn't have running water and indoor plumbing on their farm until 1956 That was not really unusual out in the midwest. In fact the "farm" where we used to hunt in Berlin Md (10 miles from Ocean City) did not have indoor plumbing in the 70s. I was only there in the winter and they did have a farm house but it was really just a wooden tent. No lights, no plumbing, no heat. I think they only used it to get in out of the rain in the summer but there was furniture in there and it looked like people might live there. I stayed one night and told the boys in the morning that we could be staying in a nice motel for about $30 a night at that time of year, my treat. We stopped camping at the farm after that. I ended up finding a nice place with a 3 room suite for $40, half way to the beach. The kitchen saved us more than that because we could eat in and pack a lunch. It was not the last time I got the guys up out of the dirt and into suitable housing. ;-) |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
True North wrote: When we visited my Cape Breton grandparents all through the '50s and very early '60s we used an outhouse and water was delivered from a well by a hand pump mounted at the kitchen sink. The closest I got to “early” plumbing fixtures was at my grandfather’s store outside Boston. He had one of those pull chain flush toilets like the one in Louis Restaurant in The Godfather, the one the noisy revolver was taped behind... :) Mom grew up on a farm near the Wyoming border in Nebraska. Closest to flush toilet is the outhouse was over an irrigation ditch that went to a swamp. |
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True North wrote:
On Wednesday, 18 April 2018 10:18:18 UTC-3, Tim wrote: 7:17 AMTrue North When we visited my Cape Breton grandparents all through the '50s and very early '60s we used an outhouse and water was delivered from a well by a hand pump mounted at the kitchen sink. ............ Yessir. I was still a baby when my grandparents got rid of the wood cook stove and got an electric range in the mid-1950s I remember the old wood burning kitchen stove. It also heated water. Not sure if it was a Kemac or something similar but the house always had a familiar odor that I instantly recognized on our once a year visits. Our neighbors growing up had a stove that burned wood on one side and gas burners on the other. Next to Berkeley. Up to and probably after the 1906 SF earthquake, anniversary today, lots of home in SF had outhouses. Today they search for those outhouse locations. They did move around the yard as they filed, and search for bottles, etc that were dumped in the outhouse. |
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On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 08:37:40 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote: On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 11:38:16 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 20:26:28 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: 10:13 On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 18:52:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: - show quoted text - Don't forget how we have been getting to the ISS since the end of the GW administration. They are not all that backward. Even in WWII they had one of the best tanks in the war. I do understand they got their rocket technology from the Germans but so did we. They were also very good at stealing technology from us ... and they still are. ............ Oh I agree! The movie was talking (I take it) about the typical “farm boy” soldier that had never seen running water and was marveled at the convenience. Sure they’re smart. But maybe not “that” smart. Let's not get too silly here. I bet there were American farm boys in the 40s who saw their first flush toilet in boot camp. When my father in law moved from the farm near Paoli Indiana to Kokomo (1940s), he said it was the first time he had indoor plumbing. They had it in town but not out at his family farm. Growing up we would occasionally visit my great aunt and uncle who lived 6-8 miles out of town in the country. They had a hand pump and tin cup on the back porch for drinking water, an outhouse and a wood stove. My wife's dad grew up poor in very rural south Georgia, and said that the chickens would peck their feet through the floorboards of the house. I suspect that's why he lived a frugal life, worked a full-time job and roofed houses on the side. He's very comfortable in his retirement now. Most kids these days want it all now, and don't have a clue what it's like to make it with what you have, and to work hard and save to do better later. That is why I think we would never survive another real depression. Those people did not really lose that much compared to what the post WWII people have gotten used to. It sucked in the cities but country folks did not really notice that much difference. like Alabama says "Well somebody told us Wall Street fell But we were so poor that we couldn't tell" |
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On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 08:40:15 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote: On Wednesday, 18 April 2018 11:17:14 UTC-3, Tim wrote: 8:53 AMjustan Tim Wrote in message: - show quoted text - It is somewhat of a backward Province, isn't it? -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ ......... Well in the 50s southern Illinois sure was lol. Come to think of it. Still is!? That's amusing...Justine talking "backward"! Imagine rural Floriduh in those days.... Not unlike rural Canada except you didn't need a parka and snow shoes to go take a dump. |
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On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 1:10:33 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 08:37:40 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 11:38:16 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 20:26:28 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: 10:13 On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 18:52:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: - show quoted text - Don't forget how we have been getting to the ISS since the end of the GW administration. They are not all that backward. Even in WWII they had one of the best tanks in the war. I do understand they got their rocket technology from the Germans but so did we. They were also very good at stealing technology from us .... and they still are. ............ Oh I agree! The movie was talking (I take it) about the typical “farm boy” soldier that had never seen running water and was marveled at the convenience. Sure they’re smart. But maybe not “that” smart. |
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On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 11:33:02 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote:
On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 1:10:33 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 08:37:40 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 11:38:16 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 20:26:28 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: 10:13 On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 18:52:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: - show quoted text - Don't forget how we have been getting to the ISS since the end of the GW administration. They are not all that backward. Even in WWII they had one of the best tanks in the war. I do understand they got their rocket technology from the Germans but so did we. They were also very good at stealing technology from us ... and they still are. ............ Oh I agree! The movie was talking (I take it) about the typical farm boy soldier that had never seen running water and was marveled at the convenience. Sure theyre smart. But maybe not that smart. Let's not get too silly here. I bet there were American farm boys in the 40s who saw their first flush toilet in boot camp. When my father in law moved from the farm near Paoli Indiana to Kokomo (1940s), he said it was the first time he had indoor plumbing. They had it in town but not out at his family farm. Growing up we would occasionally visit my great aunt and uncle who lived 6-8 miles out of town in the country. They had a hand pump and tin cup on the back porch for drinking water, an outhouse and a wood stove. My wife's dad grew up poor in very rural south Georgia, and said that the chickens would peck their feet through the floorboards of the house. I suspect that's why he lived a frugal life, worked a full-time job and roofed houses on the side. He's very comfortable in his retirement now. Most kids these days want it all now, and don't have a clue what it's like to make it with what you have, and to work hard and save to do better later. That is why I think we would never survive another real depression. Those people did not really lose that much compared to what the post WWII people have gotten used to. It sucked in the cities but country folks did not really notice that much difference. like Alabama says "Well somebody told us Wall Street fell But we were so poor that we couldn't tell" Yep. He's in his early 80's and still plants a pretty good sized garden. Some people would survive it. "Were from North California and south Alabam And little towns all around this land And we can skin a buck; we can run a trot-line And a country boy can survive Country folks can survive" :) Amen. They can also build rabbit traps. |
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