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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/11/18 11:58 AM, Bill wrote: Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 4/10/18 8:30 PM, Bill wrote: Tim wrote: Keyser Soze On 4/10/18 7:02 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: True North wrote: Kalif Swill guzzles.... "At least he did no use taxpayer money to pay off the bimbo. Unlike Congress." Are you sure "he did no use taxpayer money"? Bilious bought the cheap spellchecker Oh, and speaking of Stormy...she's cooperating with federal prosecutors. "For 'tis the sport to have the enginer / Hoist with his own petar." Hamlet ////// Does that mean she’s gonna blow herself up? My “not” missed the T, what is Harry’s excuse. Not enough money to buy a spell checker? I assume you required a “d” on petar. Sure she is cooperating, no choice. When is she going to have to return the $130 large for breaking the legal agreement? D'oh. "Petar" is the way Shakespeare spelled the word. It is for us the archaic spelling of the word. I see no reason to update Shakespeare's spelling. I doubt it is ever used that way this era. I guess we can justify any misspelling as was used that way at some time and location. Misspelling? Now that is revealing. You, someone barely literate, is accusing Shakespeare of not knowing his native tongue. Well, Bilious, *lots* of words were spelled differently in those days. Petar, and later petard, were derived from a French word with a totally different meaning than how the word petard is used today. Shakespeare and his predecessors and contemporaries lived in times a lot closer to the "importation" of many words. You'd have a miserable time with Chaucer, another giant of English literature. And using Shakespeare’s spelling is incorrect for modern usage according to your dribble. Hell, I had a miserable time with some of Shakespeare’s works. Mid summer nights dream, may be high literature, but came across as stupid and boring. |
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 05:15:30 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:
The John flushes his head.... "I'm thinking he found a used blow-up doll in the trash." Threw yours away, eh? I'm guessing that even that wasn't helping your problem anymore. Sad! Never had one. The one you got didn't belong to me. |
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 12:25:47 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/11/18 11:58 AM, Bill wrote: Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 4/10/18 8:30 PM, Bill wrote: Tim wrote: Keyser Soze On 4/10/18 7:02 PM, Keyser Sze wrote: True North wrote: Kalif Swill guzzles.... "At least he did no use taxpayer money to pay off the bimbo. Unlike Congress." Are you sure "he did no use taxpayer money"? Bilious bought the cheap spellchecker Oh, and speaking of Stormy...she's cooperating with federal prosecutors. "For 'tis the sport to have the enginer / Hoist with his own petar." Hamlet ////// Does that mean shes gonna blow herself up? My not missed the T, what is Harrys excuse. Not enough money to buy a spell checker? I assume you required a d on petar. Sure she is cooperating, no choice. When is she going to have to return the $130 large for breaking the legal agreement? D'oh. "Petar" is the way Shakespeare spelled the word. It is for us the archaic spelling of the word. I see no reason to update Shakespeare's spelling. I doubt it is ever used that way this era. I guess we can justify any misspelling as was used that way at some time and location. Misspelling? Now that is revealing. You, someone barely literate, is accusing Shakespeare of not knowing his native tongue. Well, Bilious, *lots* of words were spelled differently in those days. Petar, and later petard, were derived from a French word with a totally different meaning than how the word petard is used today. Shakespeare and his predecessors and contemporaries lived in times a lot closer to the "importation" of many words. You'd have a miserable time with Chaucer, another giant of English literature. He couldn't spell either? |
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On 4/11/18 1:13 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote: On 4/11/18 11:58 AM, Bill wrote: Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 4/10/18 8:30 PM, Bill wrote: Tim wrote: Keyser Soze On 4/10/18 7:02 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: True North wrote: Kalif Swill guzzles.... "At least he did no use taxpayer money to pay off the bimbo. Unlike Congress." Are you sure "he did no use taxpayer money"? Bilious bought the cheap spellchecker Oh, and speaking of Stormy...she's cooperating with federal prosecutors. "For 'tis the sport to have the enginer / Hoist with his own petar." Hamlet ////// Does that mean she’s gonna blow herself up? My “not” missed the T, what is Harry’s excuse. Not enough money to buy a spell checker? I assume you required a “d” on petar. Sure she is cooperating, no choice. When is she going to have to return the $130 large for breaking the legal agreement? D'oh. "Petar" is the way Shakespeare spelled the word. It is for us the archaic spelling of the word. I see no reason to update Shakespeare's spelling. I doubt it is ever used that way this era. I guess we can justify any misspelling as was used that way at some time and location. Misspelling? Now that is revealing. You, someone barely literate, is accusing Shakespeare of not knowing his native tongue. Well, Bilious, *lots* of words were spelled differently in those days. Petar, and later petard, were derived from a French word with a totally different meaning than how the word petard is used today. Shakespeare and his predecessors and contemporaries lived in times a lot closer to the "importation" of many words. You'd have a miserable time with Chaucer, another giant of English literature. And using Shakespeare’s spelling is incorrect for modern usage according to your dribble. Hell, I had a miserable time with some of Shakespeare’s works. Mid summer nights dream, may be high literature, but came across as stupid and boring. It is easy to imagine what someone like Shakespeare would think of your literary droolings. So, you wouldn't have done well in the "Shakespeare Rapid Reading" course I took to fulfill one of my undergrad majors... Oh...I wasn't using "modern usage." I was quoting Shakespeare directly from a quarto, specifically a copy of this: THE Tragicall Historie of HAMLET Prince of Denmarke By William Shakespeare. As it hath beene diuerse times acted by his Highnesse seruants in the Cittie of London: as also in the two Vniuersities of Cambridge and Oxford, and elsewhere At London printed for N.L. and Iohn Trundell. 1603. |
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THE Tragicall Historie of HAMLET Prince of Denmarke By William Shakespeare. As it hath beene diuerse times acted by his Highnesse seruants in the Cittie of London: as also in the two Vniuersities of Cambridge and Oxford, and elsewhere At London printed for N.L. and Iohn Trundell. 1603. .......,,,,,,,, No problem reading that copy. Why didn’t you post his supposed original handwriting? Would have at least been sort of a challenge |
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On 4/11/18 2:26 PM, Tim wrote:
THE Tragicall Historie of HAMLET Prince of Denmarke By William Shakespeare. As it hath beene diuerse times acted by his Highnesse seruants in the Cittie of London: as also in the two Vniuersities of Cambridge and Oxford, and elsewhere At London printed for N.L. and Iohn Trundell. 1603. ......,,,,,,,, No problem reading that copy. Why didn’t you post his supposed original handwriting? Would have at least been sort of a challenge Why would I do that? The folios were printed. I'd love to own a real example of something in Shakespeare's own hand, but these are extremely rare. There are copies of some of the handwritten documents on-line, though. I do have a "musick book" from the late 17th Century, but it also was professionally printed. Last time I checked, it was fairly valuable. |
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Tim wrote:
THE Tragicall Historie of HAMLET Prince of Denmarke By William Shakespeare. As it hath beene diuerse times acted by his Highnesse seruants in the Cittie of London: as also in the two Vniuersities of Cambridge and Oxford, and elsewhere At London printed for N.L. and Iohn Trundell. 1603. ......,,,,,,,, No problem reading that copy. Why didn’t you post his supposed original handwriting? Would have at least been sort of a challenge No problem comprehending the writing. Spelling suck for 21st century. |
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On 4/11/18 3:57 PM, Bill wrote:
Tim wrote: THE Tragicall Historie of HAMLET Prince of Denmarke By William Shakespeare. As it hath beene diuerse times acted by his Highnesse seruants in the Cittie of London: as also in the two Vniuersities of Cambridge and Oxford, and elsewhere At London printed for N.L. and Iohn Trundell. 1603. ......,,,,,,,, No problem reading that copy. Why didn’t you post his supposed original handwriting? Would have at least been sort of a challenge No problem comprehending the writing. Spelling suck for 21st century. Indeed, your spelling does suck for this or any other century. Shakespeare, however, is an immortal. |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/11/18 3:57 PM, Bill wrote: Tim wrote: THE Tragicall Historie of HAMLET Prince of Denmarke By William Shakespeare. As it hath beene diuerse times acted by his Highnesse seruants in the Cittie of London: as also in the two Vniuersities of Cambridge and Oxford, and elsewhere At London printed for N.L. and Iohn Trundell. 1603. ......,,,,,,,, No problem reading that copy. Why didn’t you post his supposed original handwriting? Would have at least been sort of a challenge No problem comprehending the writing. Spelling suck for 21st century. Indeed, your spelling does suck for this or any other century. Shakespeare, however, is an immortal. Time will tell on the immortal side. I do not seem to make any more typos than a guy with an “advanced”degree in English. |
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On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 3:18:31 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/11/18 3:57 PM, Bill wrote: Tim wrote: THE Tragicall Historie of HAMLET Prince of Denmarke By William Shakespeare. As it hath beene diuerse times acted by his Highnesse seruants in the Cittie of London: as also in the two Vniuersities of Cambridge and Oxford, and elsewhere At London printed for N.L. and Iohn Trundell. 1603. ......,,,,,,,, No problem reading that copy. Why didn’t you post his supposed original handwriting? Would have at least been sort of a challenge No problem comprehending the writing. Spelling suck for 21st century. Indeed, your spelling does suck for this or any other century. Shakespeare, however, is an immortal. "Immortal?" He died in `1616 and a lot of the stuff (including Hamlet) was written by Christopher Marlow and maybe others. In his day he was the 'Danielle Steele" of playwrights who was given a lot of credit for other peoples work. |
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 12:12:14 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 4/11/18 10:55 AM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:39:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 4/11/2018 12:55 AM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 00:30:35 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Tim wrote: Keyser Soze On 4/10/18 7:02 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: True North wrote: Kalif Swill guzzles.... "At least he did no use taxpayer money to pay off the bimbo. Unlike Congress." Are you sure "he did no use taxpayer money"? Bilious bought the cheap spellchecker Oh, and speaking of Stormy...she's cooperating with federal prosecutors. "For 'tis the sport to have the enginer / Hoist with his own petar." Hamlet ////// Does that mean she’s gonna blow herself up? My “not” missed the T, what is Harry’s excuse. Not enough money to buy a spell checker? I assume you required a “d” on petar. Sure she is cooperating, no choice. When is she going to have to return the $130 large for breaking the legal agreement? From what I have heard it is up to a million every time she speaks about it. If nothing else comes out of this, I bet we find out more than we wanted to know about the enforceability of NDAs. As I said in the other note CBS was pursuing this too although I doubt they are going to the mat for Charley. They do have other NDAs like most big companies, usually surrounding business practices and intellectual property. If Stormy can invalidate hers, just because she wants to, it will send a shudder down the spine of a lot of companies. We had NDAs for some people at the company I had that were designed to protect intellectual property and other proprietary company information. I only had to enforce it once. We had a sales guy who's responsibility was to coordinate the generation of technical proposals by the engineering department and our price bid for contracts and present them to the customer. At one point we had submitted a proposal for a major contract and the sales person suddenly left the company to join a competitor. I knew the president of the competitor ... we actually were friends from past mutual employments ... and when I found out that he was bidding on the same contract I called foul. When I told him that I had a copy of our proposal with our price, signed by his new salesman, he said he'd get back to me. He did, within an hour, apologized and told me he had withdrawn his bid for the contract. It was so blatant that I didn't even need to get lawyers involved. That is why we should be taking this stormy thing seriously. If she can get away with breaking her NDA with no consequences it might create a precedent that actually affects something important. IBM had a blanket NDA that you signed but until you got up into plant level hardware support most guys did not really have any sensitive material beyond inventories and customer lists. When I got the source code listings for the microcode in the 4300s and other related docs, I had to sign another, more specific NDA. They also tried to enforce a no compete on the guys who were separated with a "package" but that did not survive a challenge. Yawn, yawn, and yawn. You seem overly concerned about Ms. Daniels and the Trump NDA. There are major questions about the legality of that NDA, and I really doubt Ms. Daniels will face any consequences. But Trump will. :) What would those be about this? The campaign contribution deal does not even pass the laugh test. Other than that they paid off a blackmailer and she still told the story. It certainly sounds like breach of contract if not a blackmail charge. She breached her contract with Cohen,not Trump. That is still a contract. |
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On 4/12/18 9:20 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 12:12:14 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 4/11/18 10:55 AM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:39:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 4/11/2018 12:55 AM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 00:30:35 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Tim wrote: Keyser Soze On 4/10/18 7:02 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: True North wrote: Kalif Swill guzzles.... "At least he did no use taxpayer money to pay off the bimbo. Unlike Congress." Are you sure "he did no use taxpayer money"? Bilious bought the cheap spellchecker Oh, and speaking of Stormy...she's cooperating with federal prosecutors. "For 'tis the sport to have the enginer / Hoist with his own petar." Hamlet ////// Does that mean she’s gonna blow herself up? My “not” missed the T, what is Harry’s excuse. Not enough money to buy a spell checker? I assume you required a “d” on petar. Sure she is cooperating, no choice. When is she going to have to return the $130 large for breaking the legal agreement? From what I have heard it is up to a million every time she speaks about it. If nothing else comes out of this, I bet we find out more than we wanted to know about the enforceability of NDAs. As I said in the other note CBS was pursuing this too although I doubt they are going to the mat for Charley. They do have other NDAs like most big companies, usually surrounding business practices and intellectual property. If Stormy can invalidate hers, just because she wants to, it will send a shudder down the spine of a lot of companies. We had NDAs for some people at the company I had that were designed to protect intellectual property and other proprietary company information. I only had to enforce it once. We had a sales guy who's responsibility was to coordinate the generation of technical proposals by the engineering department and our price bid for contracts and present them to the customer. At one point we had submitted a proposal for a major contract and the sales person suddenly left the company to join a competitor. I knew the president of the competitor ... we actually were friends from past mutual employments ... and when I found out that he was bidding on the same contract I called foul. When I told him that I had a copy of our proposal with our price, signed by his new salesman, he said he'd get back to me. He did, within an hour, apologized and told me he had withdrawn his bid for the contract. It was so blatant that I didn't even need to get lawyers involved. That is why we should be taking this stormy thing seriously. If she can get away with breaking her NDA with no consequences it might create a precedent that actually affects something important. IBM had a blanket NDA that you signed but until you got up into plant level hardware support most guys did not really have any sensitive material beyond inventories and customer lists. When I got the source code listings for the microcode in the 4300s and other related docs, I had to sign another, more specific NDA. They also tried to enforce a no compete on the guys who were separated with a "package" but that did not survive a challenge. Yawn, yawn, and yawn. You seem overly concerned about Ms. Daniels and the Trump NDA. There are major questions about the legality of that NDA, and I really doubt Ms. Daniels will face any consequences. But Trump will. :) What would those be about this? The campaign contribution deal does not even pass the laugh test. Other than that they paid off a blackmailer and she still told the story. It certainly sounds like breach of contract if not a blackmail charge. She breached her contract with Cohen,not Trump. That is still a contract. Too funny. Only you and lawyer Michael Cohen seem intent on seeing Ms. Daniels faces "consequences," and at the moment, it seems Cohen has far more serious issues on his plate. |
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On 4/13/2018 8:23 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/12/18 9:20 PM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 12:12:14 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 4/11/18 10:55 AM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:39:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 4/11/2018 12:55 AM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 00:30:35 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Tim wrote: Keyser Soze On 4/10/18 7:02 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: True North wrote: Kalif Swill guzzles.... "At least he did no use taxpayer money to pay off the bimbo. Unlike Congress." Are you sure "he did no use taxpayer money"? Bilious bought the cheap spellchecker Oh, and speaking of Stormy...she's cooperating with federal prosecutors. **** "For 'tis the sport to have the enginer / Hoist with his own petar." Hamlet ////// Does that mean she’s gonna blow herself up? My “not” missed the T, what is Harry’s excuse.** Not enough money to buy a spell checker?* I assume you required a “d” on petar. Sure she is cooperating, no choice.** When is she going to have to return the $130 large for breaking the legal agreement? ** From what I have heard it is up to a million every time she speaks about it. If nothing else comes out of this, I bet we find out more than we wanted to know about the enforceability of NDAs. As I said in the other note CBS was pursuing this too although I doubt they are going to the mat for Charley. They do have other NDAs like most big companies, usually surrounding business practices and intellectual property. If Stormy can invalidate hers, just because she wants to, it will send a shudder down the spine of a lot of companies. We had NDAs for some people at the company I had that were designed to protect intellectual property and other proprietary company information. I only had to enforce it once.* We had a sales guy who's responsibility was to coordinate the generation of technical proposals by the engineering department and our price bid for contracts and present them to the customer.* At one point we had submitted a proposal for a major contract and the sales person suddenly left the company to join a competitor.* I knew the president of the competitor ... we actually were friends from past mutual employments ... and when I found out that he was bidding on the same contract I called foul.* When I told him that I had a copy of our proposal with our price, signed by his new salesman, he said he'd get back to me.** He did, within an hour, apologized and told me he had withdrawn his bid for the contract. It was so blatant that I didn't even need to get lawyers involved. That is why we should be taking this stormy thing seriously. If she can get away with breaking her NDA with no consequences it might create a precedent that actually affects something important. IBM had a blanket NDA that you signed but until you got up into plant level hardware support most guys did not really have any sensitive material beyond inventories and customer lists. When I got the source code listings for the microcode in the 4300s and other related docs, I had to sign another, more specific NDA. They also tried to enforce a no compete on the guys who were separated with a "package" but that did not survive a challenge. Yawn, yawn, and yawn. You seem overly concerned about Ms. Daniels and the Trump NDA. There are major questions about the legality of that NDA, and I really doubt Ms. Daniels will face any consequences. But Trump will.* :) What would those be about this? The campaign contribution deal does not even pass the laugh test. Other than that they paid off a blackmailer and she still told the story. It certainly sounds like breach of contract if not a blackmail charge. She breached her contract with Cohen,not Trump. That is still a contract. Too funny. Only you and lawyer Michael Cohen seem intent on seeing Ms. Daniels faces "consequences," and at the moment, it seems Cohen has far more serious issues on his plate. A NDA is a contract regardless of who it is with, even more so in this case because there are demonstrable "consideration" given to the parties involved. |
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On 4/13/18 8:38 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/13/2018 8:23 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 4/12/18 9:20 PM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 12:12:14 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 4/11/18 10:55 AM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:39:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 4/11/2018 12:55 AM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 00:30:35 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Tim wrote: Keyser Soze On 4/10/18 7:02 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: True North wrote: Kalif Swill guzzles.... "At least he did no use taxpayer money to pay off the bimbo. Unlike Congress." Are you sure "he did no use taxpayer money"? Bilious bought the cheap spellchecker Oh, and speaking of Stormy...she's cooperating with federal prosecutors. **** "For 'tis the sport to have the enginer / Hoist with his own petar." Hamlet ////// Does that mean she’s gonna blow herself up? My “not” missed the T, what is Harry’s excuse.** Not enough money to buy a spell checker?* I assume you required a “d” on petar. Sure she is cooperating, no choice.** When is she going to have to return the $130 large for breaking the legal agreement? ** From what I have heard it is up to a million every time she speaks about it. If nothing else comes out of this, I bet we find out more than we wanted to know about the enforceability of NDAs. As I said in the other note CBS was pursuing this too although I doubt they are going to the mat for Charley. They do have other NDAs like most big companies, usually surrounding business practices and intellectual property. If Stormy can invalidate hers, just because she wants to, it will send a shudder down the spine of a lot of companies. We had NDAs for some people at the company I had that were designed to protect intellectual property and other proprietary company information. I only had to enforce it once.* We had a sales guy who's responsibility was to coordinate the generation of technical proposals by the engineering department and our price bid for contracts and present them to the customer.* At one point we had submitted a proposal for a major contract and the sales person suddenly left the company to join a competitor.* I knew the president of the competitor ... we actually were friends from past mutual employments ... and when I found out that he was bidding on the same contract I called foul.* When I told him that I had a copy of our proposal with our price, signed by his new salesman, he said he'd get back to me.** He did, within an hour, apologized and told me he had withdrawn his bid for the contract. It was so blatant that I didn't even need to get lawyers involved. That is why we should be taking this stormy thing seriously. If she can get away with breaking her NDA with no consequences it might create a precedent that actually affects something important. IBM had a blanket NDA that you signed but until you got up into plant level hardware support most guys did not really have any sensitive material beyond inventories and customer lists. When I got the source code listings for the microcode in the 4300s and other related docs, I had to sign another, more specific NDA. They also tried to enforce a no compete on the guys who were separated with a "package" but that did not survive a challenge. Yawn, yawn, and yawn. You seem overly concerned about Ms. Daniels and the Trump NDA. There are major questions about the legality of that NDA, and I really doubt Ms. Daniels will face any consequences. But Trump will.* :) What would those be about this? The campaign contribution deal does not even pass the laugh test. Other than that they paid off a blackmailer and she still told the story. It certainly sounds like breach of contract if not a blackmail charge. She breached her contract with Cohen,not Trump. That is still a contract. Too funny. Only you and lawyer Michael Cohen seem intent on seeing Ms. Daniels faces "consequences," and at the moment, it seems Cohen has far more serious issues on his plate. A NDA is a contract regardless of who it is with, even more so in this case because there are demonstrable "consideration" given to the parties involved. My understanding is that Cohen's NDA was so poorly written and executed, it likely is meaningless. |
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On 4/13/2018 10:45 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/13/18 8:38 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 4/13/2018 8:23 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 4/12/18 9:20 PM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 12:12:14 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 4/11/18 10:55 AM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:39:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 4/11/2018 12:55 AM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 00:30:35 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Tim wrote: Keyser Soze On 4/10/18 7:02 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: True North wrote: Kalif Swill guzzles.... "At least he did no use taxpayer money to pay off the bimbo. Unlike Congress." Are you sure "he did no use taxpayer money"? Bilious bought the cheap spellchecker Oh, and speaking of Stormy...she's cooperating with federal prosecutors. **** "For 'tis the sport to have the enginer / Hoist with his own petar." Hamlet ////// Does that mean she’s gonna blow herself up? My “not” missed the T, what is Harry’s excuse.** Not enough money to buy a spell checker?* I assume you required a “d” on petar. Sure she is cooperating, no choice.** When is she going to have to return the $130 large for breaking the legal agreement? ** From what I have heard it is up to a million every time she speaks about it. If nothing else comes out of this, I bet we find out more than we wanted to know about the enforceability of NDAs. As I said in the other note CBS was pursuing this too although I doubt they are going to the mat for Charley. They do have other NDAs like most big companies, usually surrounding business practices and intellectual property. If Stormy can invalidate hers, just because she wants to, it will send a shudder down the spine of a lot of companies. We had NDAs for some people at the company I had that were designed to protect intellectual property and other proprietary company information. I only had to enforce it once.* We had a sales guy who's responsibility was to coordinate the generation of technical proposals by the engineering department and our price bid for contracts and present them to the customer.* At one point we had submitted a proposal for a major contract and the sales person suddenly left the company to join a competitor.* I knew the president of the competitor ... we actually were friends from past mutual employments ... and when I found out that he was bidding on the same contract I called foul.* When I told him that I had a copy of our proposal with our price, signed by his new salesman, he said he'd get back to me.** He did, within an hour, apologized and told me he had withdrawn his bid for the contract. It was so blatant that I didn't even need to get lawyers involved. That is why we should be taking this stormy thing seriously. If she can get away with breaking her NDA with no consequences it might create a precedent that actually affects something important. IBM had a blanket NDA that you signed but until you got up into plant level hardware support most guys did not really have any sensitive material beyond inventories and customer lists. When I got the source code listings for the microcode in the 4300s and other related docs, I had to sign another, more specific NDA. They also tried to enforce a no compete on the guys who were separated with a "package" but that did not survive a challenge. Yawn, yawn, and yawn. You seem overly concerned about Ms. Daniels and the Trump NDA. There are major questions about the legality of that NDA, and I really doubt Ms. Daniels will face any consequences. But Trump will.* :) What would those be about this? The campaign contribution deal does not even pass the laugh test. Other than that they paid off a blackmailer and she still told the story. It certainly sounds like breach of contract if not a blackmail charge. She breached her contract with Cohen,not Trump. That is still a contract. Too funny. Only you and lawyer Michael Cohen seem intent on seeing Ms. Daniels faces "consequences," and at the moment, it seems Cohen has far more serious issues on his plate. A NDA is a contract regardless of who it is with, even more so in this case because there are demonstrable "consideration" given to the parties involved. My understanding is that Cohen's NDA was so poorly written and executed, it likely is meaningless. I haven't read it. |
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On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 08:23:24 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 4/12/18 9:20 PM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 12:12:14 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 4/11/18 10:55 AM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:39:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 4/11/2018 12:55 AM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 00:30:35 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Tim wrote: Keyser Soze On 4/10/18 7:02 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: True North wrote: Kalif Swill guzzles.... "At least he did no use taxpayer money to pay off the bimbo. Unlike Congress." Are you sure "he did no use taxpayer money"? Bilious bought the cheap spellchecker Oh, and speaking of Stormy...she's cooperating with federal prosecutors. "For 'tis the sport to have the enginer / Hoist with his own petar." Hamlet ////// Does that mean she’s gonna blow herself up? My “not” missed the T, what is Harry’s excuse. Not enough money to buy a spell checker? I assume you required a “d” on petar. Sure she is cooperating, no choice. When is she going to have to return the $130 large for breaking the legal agreement? From what I have heard it is up to a million every time she speaks about it. If nothing else comes out of this, I bet we find out more than we wanted to know about the enforceability of NDAs. As I said in the other note CBS was pursuing this too although I doubt they are going to the mat for Charley. They do have other NDAs like most big companies, usually surrounding business practices and intellectual property. If Stormy can invalidate hers, just because she wants to, it will send a shudder down the spine of a lot of companies. We had NDAs for some people at the company I had that were designed to protect intellectual property and other proprietary company information. I only had to enforce it once. We had a sales guy who's responsibility was to coordinate the generation of technical proposals by the engineering department and our price bid for contracts and present them to the customer. At one point we had submitted a proposal for a major contract and the sales person suddenly left the company to join a competitor. I knew the president of the competitor ... we actually were friends from past mutual employments ... and when I found out that he was bidding on the same contract I called foul. When I told him that I had a copy of our proposal with our price, signed by his new salesman, he said he'd get back to me. He did, within an hour, apologized and told me he had withdrawn his bid for the contract. It was so blatant that I didn't even need to get lawyers involved. That is why we should be taking this stormy thing seriously. If she can get away with breaking her NDA with no consequences it might create a precedent that actually affects something important. IBM had a blanket NDA that you signed but until you got up into plant level hardware support most guys did not really have any sensitive material beyond inventories and customer lists. When I got the source code listings for the microcode in the 4300s and other related docs, I had to sign another, more specific NDA. They also tried to enforce a no compete on the guys who were separated with a "package" but that did not survive a challenge. Yawn, yawn, and yawn. You seem overly concerned about Ms. Daniels and the Trump NDA. There are major questions about the legality of that NDA, and I really doubt Ms. Daniels will face any consequences. But Trump will. :) What would those be about this? The campaign contribution deal does not even pass the laugh test. Other than that they paid off a blackmailer and she still told the story. It certainly sounds like breach of contract if not a blackmail charge. She breached her contract with Cohen,not Trump. That is still a contract. Too funny. Only you and lawyer Michael Cohen seem intent on seeing Ms. Daniels faces "consequences," and at the moment, it seems Cohen has far more serious issues on his plate. I still have not figured out what those issues are. He paid a blackmailer some money and the blackmail wasn't even over something illegal. I think he is smart enough to weave his way through the campaign finance law and what else is there? It will really be troubling if they found something they were not looking for as fruit of this raid because that had to be a very narrowly defined warrant. I agree this is knee deep, legal **** but that is why they are called lawyers. Trump may very well finish his term and be retired in Mar A Lago before all of these cases have worked their way through the courts. I am starting to think he will walk away after the term ends in 2020 tho unless he actually shows some concrete accomplishments that the democrats will look silly denying. He already has a few that everyone is ignoring. |
Sweet
On 4/13/18 11:28 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 08:23:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 4/12/18 9:20 PM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 12:12:14 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 4/11/18 10:55 AM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:39:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 4/11/2018 12:55 AM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 00:30:35 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Tim wrote: Keyser Soze On 4/10/18 7:02 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: True North wrote: Kalif Swill guzzles.... "At least he did no use taxpayer money to pay off the bimbo. Unlike Congress." Are you sure "he did no use taxpayer money"? Bilious bought the cheap spellchecker Oh, and speaking of Stormy...she's cooperating with federal prosecutors. "For 'tis the sport to have the enginer / Hoist with his own petar." Hamlet ////// Does that mean she’s gonna blow herself up? My “not” missed the T, what is Harry’s excuse. Not enough money to buy a spell checker? I assume you required a “d” on petar. Sure she is cooperating, no choice. When is she going to have to return the $130 large for breaking the legal agreement? From what I have heard it is up to a million every time she speaks about it. If nothing else comes out of this, I bet we find out more than we wanted to know about the enforceability of NDAs. As I said in the other note CBS was pursuing this too although I doubt they are going to the mat for Charley. They do have other NDAs like most big companies, usually surrounding business practices and intellectual property. If Stormy can invalidate hers, just because she wants to, it will send a shudder down the spine of a lot of companies. We had NDAs for some people at the company I had that were designed to protect intellectual property and other proprietary company information. I only had to enforce it once. We had a sales guy who's responsibility was to coordinate the generation of technical proposals by the engineering department and our price bid for contracts and present them to the customer. At one point we had submitted a proposal for a major contract and the sales person suddenly left the company to join a competitor. I knew the president of the competitor ... we actually were friends from past mutual employments ... and when I found out that he was bidding on the same contract I called foul. When I told him that I had a copy of our proposal with our price, signed by his new salesman, he said he'd get back to me. He did, within an hour, apologized and told me he had withdrawn his bid for the contract. It was so blatant that I didn't even need to get lawyers involved. That is why we should be taking this stormy thing seriously. If she can get away with breaking her NDA with no consequences it might create a precedent that actually affects something important. IBM had a blanket NDA that you signed but until you got up into plant level hardware support most guys did not really have any sensitive material beyond inventories and customer lists. When I got the source code listings for the microcode in the 4300s and other related docs, I had to sign another, more specific NDA. They also tried to enforce a no compete on the guys who were separated with a "package" but that did not survive a challenge. Yawn, yawn, and yawn. You seem overly concerned about Ms. Daniels and the Trump NDA. There are major questions about the legality of that NDA, and I really doubt Ms. Daniels will face any consequences. But Trump will. :) What would those be about this? The campaign contribution deal does not even pass the laugh test. Other than that they paid off a blackmailer and she still told the story. It certainly sounds like breach of contract if not a blackmail charge. She breached her contract with Cohen,not Trump. That is still a contract. Too funny. Only you and lawyer Michael Cohen seem intent on seeing Ms. Daniels faces "consequences," and at the moment, it seems Cohen has far more serious issues on his plate. I still have not figured out what those issues are. He paid a blackmailer some money and the blackmail wasn't even over something illegal. I think he is smart enough to weave his way through the campaign finance law and what else is there? It will really be troubling if they found something they were not looking for as fruit of this raid because that had to be a very narrowly defined warrant. I agree this is knee deep, legal **** but that is why they are called lawyers. Trump may very well finish his term and be retired in Mar A Lago before all of these cases have worked their way through the courts. I am starting to think he will walk away after the term ends in 2020 tho unless he actually shows some concrete accomplishments that the democrats will look silly denying. He already has a few that everyone is ignoring. Trump's tax cut, which really is the Republican Congress tax cut, is beginning to smell really bad. I am not aware of anything Trump has done to help the country or the ordinary non-wealthy American. |
Sweet
On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 10:45:03 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 4/13/18 8:38 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 4/13/2018 8:23 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 4/12/18 9:20 PM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 12:12:14 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 4/11/18 10:55 AM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:39:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 4/11/2018 12:55 AM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 00:30:35 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Tim wrote: Keyser Soze On 4/10/18 7:02 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: True North wrote: Kalif Swill guzzles.... "At least he did no use taxpayer money to pay off the bimbo. Unlike Congress." Are you sure "he did no use taxpayer money"? Bilious bought the cheap spellchecker Oh, and speaking of Stormy...she's cooperating with federal prosecutors. **** "For 'tis the sport to have the enginer / Hoist with his own petar." Hamlet ////// Does that mean she’s gonna blow herself up? My “not” missed the T, what is Harry’s excuse.** Not enough money to buy a spell checker?* I assume you required a “d” on petar. Sure she is cooperating, no choice.** When is she going to have to return the $130 large for breaking the legal agreement? ** From what I have heard it is up to a million every time she speaks about it. If nothing else comes out of this, I bet we find out more than we wanted to know about the enforceability of NDAs. As I said in the other note CBS was pursuing this too although I doubt they are going to the mat for Charley. They do have other NDAs like most big companies, usually surrounding business practices and intellectual property. If Stormy can invalidate hers, just because she wants to, it will send a shudder down the spine of a lot of companies. We had NDAs for some people at the company I had that were designed to protect intellectual property and other proprietary company information. I only had to enforce it once.* We had a sales guy who's responsibility was to coordinate the generation of technical proposals by the engineering department and our price bid for contracts and present them to the customer.* At one point we had submitted a proposal for a major contract and the sales person suddenly left the company to join a competitor.* I knew the president of the competitor ... we actually were friends from past mutual employments ... and when I found out that he was bidding on the same contract I called foul.* When I told him that I had a copy of our proposal with our price, signed by his new salesman, he said he'd get back to me.** He did, within an hour, apologized and told me he had withdrawn his bid for the contract. It was so blatant that I didn't even need to get lawyers involved. That is why we should be taking this stormy thing seriously. If she can get away with breaking her NDA with no consequences it might create a precedent that actually affects something important. IBM had a blanket NDA that you signed but until you got up into plant level hardware support most guys did not really have any sensitive material beyond inventories and customer lists. When I got the source code listings for the microcode in the 4300s and other related docs, I had to sign another, more specific NDA. They also tried to enforce a no compete on the guys who were separated with a "package" but that did not survive a challenge. Yawn, yawn, and yawn. You seem overly concerned about Ms. Daniels and the Trump NDA. There are major questions about the legality of that NDA, and I really doubt Ms. Daniels will face any consequences. But Trump will.* :) What would those be about this? The campaign contribution deal does not even pass the laugh test. Other than that they paid off a blackmailer and she still told the story. It certainly sounds like breach of contract if not a blackmail charge. She breached her contract with Cohen,not Trump. That is still a contract. Too funny. Only you and lawyer Michael Cohen seem intent on seeing Ms. Daniels faces "consequences," and at the moment, it seems Cohen has far more serious issues on his plate. A NDA is a contract regardless of who it is with, even more so in this case because there are demonstrable "consideration" given to the parties involved. My understanding is that Cohen's NDA was so poorly written and executed, it likely is meaningless. I am sure that will be litigated but I assumed these things were a fairly mature legal concept and pretty much boiler plate. I said before, this may threaten NDAs everywhere. |
Sweet
On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 11:23:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 4/13/2018 10:45 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 4/13/18 8:38 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: A NDA is a contract regardless of who it is with, even more so in this case because there are demonstrable "consideration" given to the parties involved. My understanding is that Cohen's NDA was so poorly written and executed, it likely is meaningless. I haven't read it. I doubt the people Harry are citing have either. This sounds like Stormy's lawyer's case. |
Sweet
On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 12:26:07 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 4/13/18 11:28 AM, wrote: I still have not figured out what those issues are. He paid a blackmailer some money and the blackmail wasn't even over something illegal. I think he is smart enough to weave his way through the campaign finance law and what else is there? It will really be troubling if they found something they were not looking for as fruit of this raid because that had to be a very narrowly defined warrant. I agree this is knee deep, legal **** but that is why they are called lawyers. Trump may very well finish his term and be retired in Mar A Lago before all of these cases have worked their way through the courts. I am starting to think he will walk away after the term ends in 2020 tho unless he actually shows some concrete accomplishments that the democrats will look silly denying. He already has a few that everyone is ignoring. Trump's tax cut, which really is the Republican Congress tax cut, is beginning to smell really bad. I am not aware of anything Trump has done to help the country or the ordinary non-wealthy American. You folks in the blue states may not see much from the tax cut but it is extra money in the pocket of those people who voted for trump. It won't be a lot of money because they don't pay a lot of income tax anyway and more will be in that category who pay no tax or even get more money back than they paid in. You also can't ignore that ISIS has been beaten back a bit. The number of Americans coming home from the wars in body bags is way down. The economy is moving along nicely and if he comes out of this food fight with better trade deals than we had that is a win. That is still a toss up tho. |
Sweet
On 4/13/2018 1:52 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 12:26:07 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 4/13/18 11:28 AM, wrote: I still have not figured out what those issues are. He paid a blackmailer some money and the blackmail wasn't even over something illegal. I think he is smart enough to weave his way through the campaign finance law and what else is there? It will really be troubling if they found something they were not looking for as fruit of this raid because that had to be a very narrowly defined warrant. I agree this is knee deep, legal **** but that is why they are called lawyers. Trump may very well finish his term and be retired in Mar A Lago before all of these cases have worked their way through the courts. I am starting to think he will walk away after the term ends in 2020 tho unless he actually shows some concrete accomplishments that the democrats will look silly denying. He already has a few that everyone is ignoring. Trump's tax cut, which really is the Republican Congress tax cut, is beginning to smell really bad. I am not aware of anything Trump has done to help the country or the ordinary non-wealthy American. You folks in the blue states may not see much from the tax cut but it is extra money in the pocket of those people who voted for trump. It won't be a lot of money because they don't pay a lot of income tax anyway and more will be in that category who pay no tax or even get more money back than they paid in. You also can't ignore that ISIS has been beaten back a bit. The number of Americans coming home from the wars in body bags is way down. The economy is moving along nicely and if he comes out of this food fight with better trade deals than we had that is a win. That is still a toss up tho. I can remember Mrs.E. and I getting all excited because we got $1,000 back as an income tax refund. It was more meaningful then than later in life when having extra money was not as difficult or important. In fact, Mrs.E. still gets all excited when she wins $100 on a lottery scratch ticket. |
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