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"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 3/24/2018 12:47 AM, Tim wrote: 11:36 PMBill Tim wrote: I absently left Wayne and Bill out of the headers list of DD214 recipients. My apologies gentlemen... I did not get a DD214. I was Air Force and they use a different number. Was looking for the DD214 when I went to social Security Administration office. .... Didn?t know that, Bill. I thought all branches were under DoD with Dd214 sign out. Except Greg would have been under the Dept if the Treasury. Don?t know about coast guard... *All* discharged members of the Air Force, Navy, Marines, USCG and Army who served on active duty since 1950 receive an original form DD-214. It is the official record of your military service. Before 1950 each service had their own, unique separation forms. The DD-214 is issued in two forms ... the "long" form and a "short" form. The long form contains more detailed information but the short form is used for most requests for verification of service. DD Form 256 (Honorable Discharge Certificate) or DD Form 257 (General Discharge Certificate) are issued for those who serve in the reserves and are not called up for active duty. Reservists who are not federally deployed do not receive a DD-214 and are not eligible for veteran's benefits unless they were injured during scheduled training exercises and file a claim with the VA. There is a form called the DD-215 which is used to correct any errors on the original DD-214. The DD-214 contains the following info as a minimum: Date and place of entry into active duty Home address at time of entry Date and place of release from active duty Home address after separation Last duty assignment and rank Military job specialty Military education Decorations, medals, badges, citations, and campaign awards Total creditable service Foreign service credited Separation information (type of separation, character of service, authority and reason for separation, separation and reenlistment eligibility codes) When you are discharged, here's how the originals are disbursed: A DD Form 214/215 is prepared in eight copies and distributed as follows: Copy 1 ? Service Member Copy 2 ? Service Personnel File Copy 3 ? United States Department of Veterans Affairs Copy 4 ? Member (if initialed in Block 30) Copy 5 ? United States Department of Labor Copy 6 ? State Director of Veteran Affairs Copy 7 & 8 ? Distributed in accordance with Military Service Department directions (shredded and retain) In my case, I have *two* DD-214's and one DD-256. The first DD-214 was for my original enlistment of four years which was shortened to 2 and a half years when I was accepted into a program to change my rating from Radioman to Electronics Technician. I was discharged (on a ship at sea) and then immediately sworn back in. The second DD-214 was issued in 1977 when I completed the second active duty contract plus a two month extension "for the convenience" of the government. :-) Then, unsure of what the future held, I signed up for 2 years in the Naval Reserves and was issued the DD-256 when the contract was complete. Bottom line is ... unless Bill and Greg are a lot older than they admit to or joined the Air Force and Coast Guard when they were barely out of diapers, somewhere they have a DD-214. :-) Fat Harry must have recieved a DD69 after being relieved of his obligation to serve his country. (Strike that. Our country) -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 21:47:56 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: 11:36 PMBill Tim wrote: I absently left Wayne and Bill out of the headers list of DD214 recipients. My apologies gentlemen... I did not get a DD214. I was Air Force and they use a different number. Was looking for the DD214 when I went to social Security Administration office. .... Didn’t know that, Bill. I thought all branches were under DoD with Dd214 sign out. Except Greg would have been under the Dept if the Treasury. Don’t know about coast guard... It was the department of transportation when I got out and DHS now but they still used the regular DoD forms. I just went through this with the VA and I bet Bill had a DD214 along the way somewhere but he is thinking about his actual discharge form. (another document) I never actually had my DD214 until I asked for it. I may have seen it when I was released from active duty but if they gave it to me I probably did not get off the base with it. Both my release from active duty and my actual discharge were pretty chaotic days. Lots of running from here to there and signing papers. They did not seem to have a central location for any of it. The release from active was between the ship and an admin building on the base. The discharge was running around CG base Yorktown (Va) I found out if I hadn't done any of that they would have just mailed me a package and wanted my ID card back with the signed forms but since I was already there, it wanted to get it done. It was a good thing because I ran into my old Chief and got to go shoot. Most likely. I used my discharge form. My last week was weird. They issued me new fatigues. Asked them why? Rules. |
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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/24/2018 12:47 AM, Tim wrote: 11:36 PMBill Tim wrote: I absently left Wayne and Bill out of the headers list of DD214 recipients. My apologies gentlemen... I did not get a DD214. I was Air Force and they use a different number. Was looking for the DD214 when I went to social Security Administration office. .... Didn’t know that, Bill. I thought all branches were under DoD with Dd214 sign out. Except Greg would have been under the Dept if the Treasury. Don’t know about coast guard... *All* discharged members of the Air Force, Navy, Marines, USCG and Army who served on active duty since 1950 receive an original form DD-214. It is the official record of your military service. Before 1950 each service had their own, unique separation forms. The DD-214 is issued in two forms ... the "long" form and a "short" form. The long form contains more detailed information but the short form is used for most requests for verification of service. DD Form 256 (Honorable Discharge Certificate) or DD Form 257 (General Discharge Certificate) are issued for those who serve in the reserves and are not called up for active duty. Reservists who are not federally deployed do not receive a DD-214 and are not eligible for veteran's benefits unless they were injured during scheduled training exercises and file a claim with the VA. There is a form called the DD-215 which is used to correct any errors on the original DD-214. The DD-214 contains the following info as a minimum: Date and place of entry into active duty Home address at time of entry Date and place of release from active duty Home address after separation Last duty assignment and rank Military job specialty Military education Decorations, medals, badges, citations, and campaign awards Total creditable service Foreign service credited Separation information (type of separation, character of service, authority and reason for separation, separation and reenlistment eligibility codes) When you are discharged, here's how the originals are disbursed: A DD Form 214/215 is prepared in eight copies and distributed as follows: Copy 1 – Service Member Copy 2 – Service Personnel File Copy 3 – United States Department of Veterans Affairs Copy 4 – Member (if initialed in Block 30) Copy 5 – United States Department of Labor Copy 6 – State Director of Veteran Affairs Copy 7 & 8 – Distributed in accordance with Military Service Department directions (shredded and retain) In my case, I have *two* DD-214's and one DD-256. The first DD-214 was for my original enlistment of four years which was shortened to 2 and a half years when I was accepted into a program to change my rating from Radioman to Electronics Technician. I was discharged (on a ship at sea) and then immediately sworn back in. The second DD-214 was issued in 1977 when I completed the second active duty contract plus a two month extension "for the convenience" of the government. :-) Then, unsure of what the future held, I signed up for 2 years in the Naval Reserves and was issued the DD-256 when the contract was complete. Bottom line is ... unless Bill and Greg are a lot older than they admit to or joined the Air Force and Coast Guard when they were barely out of diapers, somewhere they have a DD-214. :-) I probably got the 256 certificate. Missed call up by 6 days. Was transferred out of a the 349th MAW on the 17th of January and the general in charge voluntold the unit for active duty on the 23rd the the Pueblo incident. |
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 07:13:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 3/24/2018 12:47 AM, Tim wrote: 11:36 PMBill Tim wrote: I absently left Wayne and Bill out of the headers list of DD214 recipients. My apologies gentlemen... I did not get a DD214. I was Air Force and they use a different number. Was looking for the DD214 when I went to social Security Administration office. .... Didn’t know that, Bill. I thought all branches were under DoD with Dd214 sign out. Except Greg would have been under the Dept if the Treasury. Don’t know about coast guard... *All* discharged members of the Air Force, Navy, Marines, USCG and Army who served on active duty since 1950 receive an original form DD-214. It is the official record of your military service. Before 1950 each service had their own, unique separation forms. The DD-214 is issued in two forms ... the "long" form and a "short" form. The long form contains more detailed information but the short form is used for most requests for verification of service. DD Form 256 (Honorable Discharge Certificate) or DD Form 257 (General Discharge Certificate) are issued for those who serve in the reserves and are not called up for active duty. Reservists who are not federally deployed do not receive a DD-214 and are not eligible for veteran's benefits unless they were injured during scheduled training exercises and file a claim with the VA. There is a form called the DD-215 which is used to correct any errors on the original DD-214. The DD-214 contains the following info as a minimum: Date and place of entry into active duty Home address at time of entry Date and place of release from active duty Home address after separation Last duty assignment and rank Military job specialty Military education Decorations, medals, badges, citations, and campaign awards Total creditable service Foreign service credited Separation information (type of separation, character of service, authority and reason for separation, separation and reenlistment eligibility codes) When you are discharged, here's how the originals are disbursed: A DD Form 214/215 is prepared in eight copies and distributed as follows: Copy 1 – Service Member Copy 2 – Service Personnel File Copy 3 – United States Department of Veterans Affairs Copy 4 – Member (if initialed in Block 30) Copy 5 – United States Department of Labor Copy 6 – State Director of Veteran Affairs Copy 7 & 8 – Distributed in accordance with Military Service Department directions (shredded and retain) In my case, I have *two* DD-214's and one DD-256. The first DD-214 was for my original enlistment of four years which was shortened to 2 and a half years when I was accepted into a program to change my rating from Radioman to Electronics Technician. I was discharged (on a ship at sea) and then immediately sworn back in. The second DD-214 was issued in 1977 when I completed the second active duty contract plus a two month extension "for the convenience" of the government. :-) Then, unsure of what the future held, I signed up for 2 years in the Naval Reserves and was issued the DD-256 when the contract was complete. Bottom line is ... unless Bill and Greg are a lot older than they admit to or joined the Air Force and Coast Guard when they were barely out of diapers, somewhere they have a DD-214. :-) I am one of those "cusp" reservists. I had more than a year of active duty so I got my DD214 and I get some VA benefits but I still have not explored how much it is. I am pretty sure I don't get the whole nut. I also have a DD-256. I am not sure the 6 month reservists get a DD-214, they may just get the 256 when they complete their contract. I am just guessing from the language in that VA card application. I ended up going to another place when the one you linked did not work. (after a 1 hour 15 minute phone call to the VA, an hour on hold). |
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On 3/24/2018 12:41 PM, Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/24/2018 12:47 AM, Tim wrote: 11:36 PMBill Tim wrote: I absently left Wayne and Bill out of the headers list of DD214 recipients. My apologies gentlemen... I did not get a DD214. I was Air Force and they use a different number. Was looking for the DD214 when I went to social Security Administration office. .... Didn’t know that, Bill. I thought all branches were under DoD with Dd214 sign out. Except Greg would have been under the Dept if the Treasury. Don’t know about coast guard... *All* discharged members of the Air Force, Navy, Marines, USCG and Army who served on active duty since 1950 receive an original form DD-214. It is the official record of your military service. Before 1950 each service had their own, unique separation forms. The DD-214 is issued in two forms ... the "long" form and a "short" form. The long form contains more detailed information but the short form is used for most requests for verification of service. DD Form 256 (Honorable Discharge Certificate) or DD Form 257 (General Discharge Certificate) are issued for those who serve in the reserves and are not called up for active duty. Reservists who are not federally deployed do not receive a DD-214 and are not eligible for veteran's benefits unless they were injured during scheduled training exercises and file a claim with the VA. There is a form called the DD-215 which is used to correct any errors on the original DD-214. The DD-214 contains the following info as a minimum: Date and place of entry into active duty Home address at time of entry Date and place of release from active duty Home address after separation Last duty assignment and rank Military job specialty Military education Decorations, medals, badges, citations, and campaign awards Total creditable service Foreign service credited Separation information (type of separation, character of service, authority and reason for separation, separation and reenlistment eligibility codes) When you are discharged, here's how the originals are disbursed: A DD Form 214/215 is prepared in eight copies and distributed as follows: Copy 1 – Service Member Copy 2 – Service Personnel File Copy 3 – United States Department of Veterans Affairs Copy 4 – Member (if initialed in Block 30) Copy 5 – United States Department of Labor Copy 6 – State Director of Veteran Affairs Copy 7 & 8 – Distributed in accordance with Military Service Department directions (shredded and retain) In my case, I have *two* DD-214's and one DD-256. The first DD-214 was for my original enlistment of four years which was shortened to 2 and a half years when I was accepted into a program to change my rating from Radioman to Electronics Technician. I was discharged (on a ship at sea) and then immediately sworn back in. The second DD-214 was issued in 1977 when I completed the second active duty contract plus a two month extension "for the convenience" of the government. :-) Then, unsure of what the future held, I signed up for 2 years in the Naval Reserves and was issued the DD-256 when the contract was complete. Bottom line is ... unless Bill and Greg are a lot older than they admit to or joined the Air Force and Coast Guard when they were barely out of diapers, somewhere they have a DD-214. :-) I probably got the 256 certificate. Missed call up by 6 days. Was transferred out of a the 349th MAW on the 17th of January and the general in charge voluntold the unit for active duty on the 23rd the the Pueblo incident. Ah, that explains why you don't have a DD-214. |
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 07:23:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 3/24/2018 1:35 AM, wrote: On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 04:36:34 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Tim wrote: I absently left Wayne and Bill out of the headers list of DD214 recipients. My apologies gentlemen... I did not get a DD214. I was Air Force and they use a different number. Was looking for the DD214 when I went to social Security Administration office. In that page I was it appears there are several different DD forms they might want. The DD214 is the release from active duty. There are also a couple of forms that designate the discharge itself. They indicated they might want to see them too. The other document they reference is a DD-215 which is issued if a correction is required on the original DD-214. They said they wanted a DD-214 and/or a 256 (or the other ones you referenced) I have the 214 and 256 |
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 17:26:06 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: I absently left Wayne and Bill out of the headers list of DD214 recipients. My apologies gentlemen... === Apology accepted but not really necessary. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 16:41:01 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/24/2018 12:47 AM, Tim wrote: 11:36 PMBill Tim wrote: I absently left Wayne and Bill out of the headers list of DD214 recipients. My apologies gentlemen... I did not get a DD214. I was Air Force and they use a different number. Was looking for the DD214 when I went to social Security Administration office. .... Didn’t know that, Bill. I thought all branches were under DoD with Dd214 sign out. Except Greg would have been under the Dept if the Treasury. Don’t know about coast guard... *All* discharged members of the Air Force, Navy, Marines, USCG and Army who served on active duty since 1950 receive an original form DD-214. It is the official record of your military service. Before 1950 each service had their own, unique separation forms. The DD-214 is issued in two forms ... the "long" form and a "short" form. The long form contains more detailed information but the short form is used for most requests for verification of service. DD Form 256 (Honorable Discharge Certificate) or DD Form 257 (General Discharge Certificate) are issued for those who serve in the reserves and are not called up for active duty. Reservists who are not federally deployed do not receive a DD-214 and are not eligible for veteran's benefits unless they were injured during scheduled training exercises and file a claim with the VA. There is a form called the DD-215 which is used to correct any errors on the original DD-214. The DD-214 contains the following info as a minimum: Date and place of entry into active duty Home address at time of entry Date and place of release from active duty Home address after separation Last duty assignment and rank Military job specialty Military education Decorations, medals, badges, citations, and campaign awards Total creditable service Foreign service credited Separation information (type of separation, character of service, authority and reason for separation, separation and reenlistment eligibility codes) When you are discharged, here's how the originals are disbursed: A DD Form 214/215 is prepared in eight copies and distributed as follows: Copy 1 – Service Member Copy 2 – Service Personnel File Copy 3 – United States Department of Veterans Affairs Copy 4 – Member (if initialed in Block 30) Copy 5 – United States Department of Labor Copy 6 – State Director of Veteran Affairs Copy 7 & 8 – Distributed in accordance with Military Service Department directions (shredded and retain) In my case, I have *two* DD-214's and one DD-256. The first DD-214 was for my original enlistment of four years which was shortened to 2 and a half years when I was accepted into a program to change my rating from Radioman to Electronics Technician. I was discharged (on a ship at sea) and then immediately sworn back in. The second DD-214 was issued in 1977 when I completed the second active duty contract plus a two month extension "for the convenience" of the government. :-) Then, unsure of what the future held, I signed up for 2 years in the Naval Reserves and was issued the DD-256 when the contract was complete. Bottom line is ... unless Bill and Greg are a lot older than they admit to or joined the Air Force and Coast Guard when they were barely out of diapers, somewhere they have a DD-214. :-) I probably got the 256 certificate. Missed call up by 6 days. Was transferred out of a the 349th MAW on the 17th of January and the general in charge voluntold the unit for active duty on the 23rd the the Pueblo incident. I bet if you go on the VA site and follow the "get records" link, they will find your DD-214. I had to do it by phone and mail in the olden days. (they mailed me a form, I filled it in, sent it back and they sent me the DD-214) |
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