On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 06:45:48 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

John H
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I hope someone told him to use his brakes next time. The bike stops quicker that way
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He did. Combination of too short of a distance and damp road surfaces. Like sliding into home plate.

Ewww. Front brake on wet roads is not a good combination. It's the one thing I don't like about the
Guzzi braking system. Sometimes I wish the rear brake pedal operated *only* the rear brake.

John H
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Ewww. Front brake on wet roads is not a good combination. It's the one thing I don't like about the
Guzzi braking system. Sometimes I wish the rear brake pedal operated *only* the rear brake.

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Mine are independent of each other. I’ve heard of many people separating the brakes on other models which were had front and back tied together

8:58 AMMr. Luddite
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Happened to me once in Puerto Rico. Was riding up a narrow road on a
Honda 350 in the rain forest in the middle of the island, came around a
corner and there was a car in front of me *backing* up. No time or
distance to stop, cliffs on one side, mountain on the other.

Laid the bike down on it's left side and slid sideways under the car's
rear bumper before he noticed and stopped.

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Yes. Amazing what you can “run into� out there...

On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 08:16:25 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

John H
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Ewww. Front brake on wet roads is not a good combination. It's the one thing I don't like about the
Guzzi braking system. Sometimes I wish the rear brake pedal operated *only* the rear brake.

...

Mine are independent of each other. I’ve heard of many people separating the brakes on other models which were had front and back tied together

You know, until your comment I didn't realize the newer Guzzis had done away with the integral
braking system. I wonder if it was due to wet roads and the front tire locking.

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On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 21:05:02 -0700 (PDT), Tim
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10:21
On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 14:45:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim
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John H
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 23:46:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

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I guess a link would be nice:

http://www.dangerousroads.org/europe...vio-italy.html

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I think Guzzi names that one sport tourer the�Stelvio� for that very
reason. Looks like a fun, though tedious ride to the top or the bottom...

I was pretty aggressive when I was riding but I decided I had pressed
my luck too far and bought a dresser down here. In spite of still
having white knuckle danger, it was boring knowing the biggest danger
was getting T boned by an old lady in a coupe deville.

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Mamma blue-hair pulled right out in front of my brother on his 750
Honda. He laid it down and skidded right into her door and had both feet
planted on his seat. Good he wasn’t pinned. He said she never looked to
the left even once. Of course she was truthful when she said she didn’t see him...

I rode around DC for years and never worried that much about it but
one trip downtown here and I was losing the urge to ride.
The other problem is I am not sure where I would want to ride to here.
We just don't have that many roads and they are all long and straight.


My wife was very happy when I broke the engine on my Kawasaki 350 beyond
repair. Split the barrel when the valve came apart. The rotary valve
version rocket. She said “ you never fell off your race car�.

10:45 AMJohn H
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You know, until your comment I didn't realize the newer Guzzis had done away with the integral
braking system. I wonder if it was due to wet roads and the front tire locking.

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Beats me when the did. Mines a 2000 and brakes are I depend and. They probably unincorporated them with the California v11 series.

On 3/27/2018 11:45 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 08:16:25 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

John H
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Ewww. Front brake on wet roads is not a good combination. It's the one thing I don't like about the
Guzzi braking system. Sometimes I wish the rear brake pedal operated *only* the rear brake.

...

Mine are independent of each other. I’ve heard of many people separating the brakes on other models which were had front and back tied together

You know, until your comment I didn't realize the newer Guzzis had done away with the integral
braking system. I wonder if it was due to wet roads and the front tire locking.



Sounds like it was a good idea to dump that system. I'd think it could
be dangerous under certain conditions.

Mr. Luddite
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Sounds like it was a good idea to dump that system. I'd think it could
be dangerous under certain conditions.

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I never thought it was a good idea on a bike myself...

On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 07:25:55 -0400, John H.
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On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 03:43:16 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 21:05:02 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


10:21
On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 14:45:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

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John H
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 23:46:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

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I guess a link would be nice:

http://www.dangerousroads.org/europe...vio-italy.html

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I think Guzzi names that one sport tourer the�Stelvio� for that very reason. Looks like a fun, though tedious ride to the top or the bottom...

I was pretty aggressive when I was riding but I decided I had pressed
my luck too far and bought a dresser down here. In spite of still
having white knuckle danger, it was boring knowing the biggest danger
was getting T boned by an old lady in a coupe deville.

——


Mamma blue-hair pulled right out in front of my brother on his 750 Honda. He laid it down and skidded right into her door and had both feet planted on his seat. Good he wasn’t pinned. He said she never looked to the left even once. Of course she was truthful when she said she didn’t see him...

I rode around DC for years and never worried that much about it but
one trip downtown here and I was losing the urge to ride.
The other problem is I am not sure where I would want to ride to here.
We just don't have that many roads and they are all long and straight.

Unless you're riding to the beach to ogle girls, there's not much in the way of good riding roads
down there.

That is more Harry's style but if I am going to the beach, I take my
boat.
We prefer deserted beaches to crowded beaches anyway, even if it is
full of girls.

On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 09:58:09 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
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On 3/27/2018 9:45 AM, Tim wrote:

John H
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I hope someone told him to use his brakes next time. The bike stops quicker that way
....

He did. Combination of too short of a distance and damp road surfaces. Like sliding into home plate.



Happened to me once in Puerto Rico. Was riding up a narrow road on a
Honda 350 in the rain forest in the middle of the island, came around a
corner and there was a car in front of me *backing* up. No time or
distance to stop, cliffs on one side, mountain on the other.

Laid the bike down on it's left side and slid sideways under the car's
rear bumper before he noticed and stopped.

Only time I ever laid down a bike was in the dirt. I came over a hill
and did not know what was on the other side. (yeah I know, dumb) It
was a 45 degree bank with a creek at the bottom. I went down the whole
thing sliding along behind the bike.
My only other crash was dirt biking too. I rode off into a hole about
8 feet deep. It took 2 of us and a rope on my buddy's bike to get mine
out.
I sold my dirt bike after that and bought a Harley. Never went down
after that.
I do think a year or so in the dirt made me a better road rider tho. I
have squirrelled out a few times in the rain and managed to keep the
rubber rolling.
I think the worst was under the kennedy center complex on the E street
expressway. That piece of road is covered with those white vinyl
markings and in the rain they are slicker than snake snot. I got
sideways and just about the time I thought I was recovered I hit
another one and went out the other way. I did that for about a quarter
mile. My buddies behind me said I did quite the hula but I got away
with it.
I told them I planned the whole thing and what did they think?

I really think I dodged my share of bullets on a bike and I quit while
I was ahead.