On 3/27/18 1:08 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 07:25:55 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 03:43:16 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 21:05:02 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


10:21
On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 14:45:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

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John H
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 23:46:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

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I guess a link would be nice:

http://www.dangerousroads.org/europe...vio-italy.html

....

I think Guzzi names that one sport tourer the�Stelvio� for that very reason. Looks like a fun, though tedious ride to the top or the bottom...

I was pretty aggressive when I was riding but I decided I had pressed
my luck too far and bought a dresser down here. In spite of still
having white knuckle danger, it was boring knowing the biggest danger
was getting T boned by an old lady in a coupe deville.

——


Mamma blue-hair pulled right out in front of my brother on his 750 Honda. He laid it down and skidded right into her door and had both feet planted on his seat. Good he wasn’t pinned. He said she never looked to the left even once. Of course she was truthful when she said she didn’t see him...

I rode around DC for years and never worried that much about it but
one trip downtown here and I was losing the urge to ride.
The other problem is I am not sure where I would want to ride to here.
We just don't have that many roads and they are all long and straight.

Unless you're riding to the beach to ogle girls, there's not much in the way of good riding roads
down there.

That is more Harry's style but if I am going to the beach, I take my
boat.
We prefer deserted beaches to crowded beaches anyway, even if it is
full of girls.


I certainly wouldn't drive 30 seconds to oogle a bunch of women your age
or mine...

On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 11:59:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/27/2018 11:45 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 08:16:25 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

John H
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Ewww. Front brake on wet roads is not a good combination. It's the one thing I don't like about the
Guzzi braking system. Sometimes I wish the rear brake pedal operated *only* the rear brake.

...

Mine are independent of each other. I’ve heard of many people separating the brakes on other models which were had front and back tied together

You know, until your comment I didn't realize the newer Guzzis had done away with the integral
braking system. I wonder if it was due to wet roads and the front tire locking.



Sounds like it was a good idea to dump that system. I'd think it could
be dangerous under certain conditions.


Yeah, like wet asphalt.

On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 09:03:09 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

Mr. Luddite
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Sounds like it was a good idea to dump that system. I'd think it could
be dangerous under certain conditions.

...
I never thought it was a good idea on a bike myself...

My last two Guzzis had them. Having put over 200,000 miles on those bikes, I've gotten fairly used
to the integrated system.

On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 13:08:02 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 07:25:55 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 03:43:16 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 21:05:02 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


10:21
On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 14:45:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

- hide quoted text -
John H
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 23:46:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

- show quoted text -
I guess a link would be nice:

http://www.dangerousroads.org/europe...vio-italy.html

....

I think Guzzi names that one sport tourer the”Stelvio” for that very reason. Looks like a fun, though tedious ride to the top or the bottom...

I was pretty aggressive when I was riding but I decided I had pressed
my luck too far and bought a dresser down here. In spite of still
having white knuckle danger, it was boring knowing the biggest danger
was getting T boned by an old lady in a coupe deville.

——


Mamma blue-hair pulled right out in front of my brother on his 750 Honda. He laid it down and skidded right into her door and had both feet planted on his seat. Good he wasn’t pinned. He said she never looked to the left even once. Of course she was truthful when she said she didn’t see him...

I rode around DC for years and never worried that much about it but
one trip downtown here and I was losing the urge to ride.
The other problem is I am not sure where I would want to ride to here.
We just don't have that many roads and they are all long and straight.

Unless you're riding to the beach to ogle girls, there's not much in the way of good riding roads
down there.

That is more Harry's style but if I am going to the beach, I take my
boat.
We prefer deserted beaches to crowded beaches anyway, even if it is
full of girls.

Well, after all, the subject was riding. I'd stay away from any salt water on my motorcycle simply
to prevent corrosion.

On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 13:43:46 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 3/27/18 1:08 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 07:25:55 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 03:43:16 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 21:05:02 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


10:21
On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 14:45:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

- hide quoted text -
John H
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 23:46:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

- show quoted text -
I guess a link would be nice:

http://www.dangerousroads.org/europe...vio-italy.html

....

I think Guzzi names that one sport tourer the”Stelvio” for that very reason. Looks like a fun, though tedious ride to the top or the bottom...

I was pretty aggressive when I was riding but I decided I had pressed
my luck too far and bought a dresser down here. In spite of still
having white knuckle danger, it was boring knowing the biggest danger
was getting T boned by an old lady in a coupe deville.

——


Mamma blue-hair pulled right out in front of my brother on his 750 Honda. He laid it down and skidded right into her door and had both feet planted on his seat. Good he wasn’t pinned. He said she never looked to the left even once. Of course she was truthful when she said she didn’t see him...

I rode around DC for years and never worried that much about it but
one trip downtown here and I was losing the urge to ride.
The other problem is I am not sure where I would want to ride to here.
We just don't have that many roads and they are all long and straight.

Unless you're riding to the beach to ogle girls, there's not much in the way of good riding roads
down there.

That is more Harry's style but if I am going to the beach, I take my
boat.
We prefer deserted beaches to crowded beaches anyway, even if it is
full of girls.


I certainly wouldn't drive 30 seconds to oogle a bunch of women your age
or mine...

'oogle'? Did you mean 'google'?

On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 13:43:46 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 3/27/18 1:08 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 07:25:55 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 03:43:16 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 21:05:02 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


10:21
On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 14:45:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

- hide quoted text -
John H
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 23:46:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

- show quoted text -
I guess a link would be nice:

http://www.dangerousroads.org/europe...vio-italy.html

....

I think Guzzi names that one sport tourer the�Stelvio� for that very reason. Looks like a fun, though tedious ride to the top or the bottom...

I was pretty aggressive when I was riding but I decided I had pressed
my luck too far and bought a dresser down here. In spite of still
having white knuckle danger, it was boring knowing the biggest danger
was getting T boned by an old lady in a coupe deville.

——


Mamma blue-hair pulled right out in front of my brother on his 750 Honda. He laid it down and skidded right into her door and had both feet planted on his seat. Good he wasn’t pinned. He said she never looked to the left even once. Of course she was truthful when she said she didn’t see him...

I rode around DC for years and never worried that much about it but
one trip downtown here and I was losing the urge to ride.
The other problem is I am not sure where I would want to ride to here.
We just don't have that many roads and they are all long and straight.

Unless you're riding to the beach to ogle girls, there's not much in the way of good riding roads
down there.

That is more Harry's style but if I am going to the beach, I take my
boat.
We prefer deserted beaches to crowded beaches anyway, even if it is
full of girls.


I certainly wouldn't drive 30 seconds to oogle a bunch of women your age
or mine...

I am not much of an oogler, no matter how old they are. I either meet
people or I pay them little mind. I do get to hang out with lots of
young women at the DEP. That is a ticket they need to punch to move up
in the environmental community and that seems to attract more women
than men. It is a working relationship tho, not a dating or oogling
opportunity. They are also not "show dogs". They trend to be educated
bright young women focused on doing a good job, gaining experience and
moving up.

On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 15:07:25 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 13:08:02 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 07:25:55 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 03:43:16 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 21:05:02 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


10:21
On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 14:45:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

- hide quoted text -
John H
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 23:46:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

- show quoted text -
I guess a link would be nice:

http://www.dangerousroads.org/europe...vio-italy.html

....

I think Guzzi names that one sport tourer the�Stelvio� for that very reason. Looks like a fun, though tedious ride to the top or the bottom...

I was pretty aggressive when I was riding but I decided I had pressed
my luck too far and bought a dresser down here. In spite of still
having white knuckle danger, it was boring knowing the biggest danger
was getting T boned by an old lady in a coupe deville.

——


Mamma blue-hair pulled right out in front of my brother on his 750 Honda. He laid it down and skidded right into her door and had both feet planted on his seat. Good he wasn’t pinned. He said she never looked to the left even once. Of course she was truthful when she said she didn’t see him...

I rode around DC for years and never worried that much about it but
one trip downtown here and I was losing the urge to ride.
The other problem is I am not sure where I would want to ride to here.
We just don't have that many roads and they are all long and straight.

Unless you're riding to the beach to ogle girls, there's not much in the way of good riding roads
down there.

That is more Harry's style but if I am going to the beach, I take my
boat.
We prefer deserted beaches to crowded beaches anyway, even if it is
full of girls.

Well, after all, the subject was riding. I'd stay away from any salt water on my motorcycle simply
to prevent corrosion.

I guess you won't be riding down the beach at Daytona in Bike Week.

On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 16:43:03 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 15:07:25 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 13:08:02 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 07:25:55 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 03:43:16 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 21:05:02 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


10:21
On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 14:45:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

- hide quoted text -
John H
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 23:46:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

- show quoted text -
I guess a link would be nice:

http://www.dangerousroads.org/europe...vio-italy.html

....

I think Guzzi names that one sport tourer the”Stelvio” for that very reason. Looks like a fun, though tedious ride to the top or the bottom...

I was pretty aggressive when I was riding but I decided I had pressed
my luck too far and bought a dresser down here. In spite of still
having white knuckle danger, it was boring knowing the biggest danger
was getting T boned by an old lady in a coupe deville.

——


Mamma blue-hair pulled right out in front of my brother on his 750 Honda. He laid it down and skidded right into her door and had both feet planted on his seat. Good he wasn’t pinned. He said she never looked to the left even once. Of course she was truthful when she said she didn’t see him...

I rode around DC for years and never worried that much about it but
one trip downtown here and I was losing the urge to ride.
The other problem is I am not sure where I would want to ride to here.
We just don't have that many roads and they are all long and straight.

Unless you're riding to the beach to ogle girls, there's not much in the way of good riding roads
down there.

That is more Harry's style but if I am going to the beach, I take my
boat.
We prefer deserted beaches to crowded beaches anyway, even if it is
full of girls.

Well, after all, the subject was riding. I'd stay away from any salt water on my motorcycle simply
to prevent corrosion.

I guess you won't be riding down the beach at Daytona in Bike Week.

If I rode to Daytona, I'd stay away from the beach. I wouldn't mind walking down the main drag
looking at the bikes though, and watching some of the races.

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/27/18 1:08 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 07:25:55 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 03:43:16 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 21:05:02 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


10:21
On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 14:45:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

- hide quoted text -
John H
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 23:46:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

- show quoted text -
I guess a link would be nice:

http://www.dangerousroads.org/europe...vio-italy.html


....

I think Guzzi names that one sport tourer the�Stelvio� for that
very reason. Looks like a fun, though tedious ride to the top or
the bottom...

I was pretty aggressive when I was riding but I decided I had pressed
my luck too far and bought a dresser down here. In spite of still
having white knuckle danger, it was boring knowing the biggest danger
was getting T boned by an old lady in a coupe deville.

——


Mamma blue-hair pulled right out in front of my brother on his 750
Honda. He laid it down and skidded right into her door and had
both feet planted on his seat. Good he wasn’t pinned. He said she
never looked to the left even once. Of course she was truthful
when she said she didn’t see him...

I rode around DC for years and never worried that much about it but
one trip downtown here and I was losing the urge to ride.
The other problem is I am not sure where I would want to ride to here.
We just don't have that many roads and they are all long and straight.

Unless you're riding to the beach to ogle girls, there's not much in
the way of good riding roads
down there.

That is more Harry's style but if I am going to the beach, I take my
boat.
We prefer deserted beaches to crowded beaches anyway, even if it is
full of girls.


I certainly wouldn't drive 30 seconds to oogle a bunch of women your
age or mine...

You have your computer in your special place for that, eh?

On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 16:59:58 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 16:43:03 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 15:07:25 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 13:08:02 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 07:25:55 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 03:43:16 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 21:05:02 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


10:21
On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 14:45:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

- hide quoted text -
John H
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 23:46:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

- show quoted text -
I guess a link would be nice:

http://www.dangerousroads.org/europe...vio-italy.html

....

I think Guzzi names that one sport tourer the�Stelvio� for that very reason. Looks like a fun, though tedious ride to the top or the bottom...

I was pretty aggressive when I was riding but I decided I had pressed
my luck too far and bought a dresser down here. In spite of still
having white knuckle danger, it was boring knowing the biggest danger
was getting T boned by an old lady in a coupe deville.

——


Mamma blue-hair pulled right out in front of my brother on his 750 Honda. He laid it down and skidded right into her door and had both feet planted on his seat. Good he wasn’t pinned. He said she never looked to the left even once. Of course she was truthful when she said she didn’t see him...

I rode around DC for years and never worried that much about it but
one trip downtown here and I was losing the urge to ride.
The other problem is I am not sure where I would want to ride to here.
We just don't have that many roads and they are all long and straight.

Unless you're riding to the beach to ogle girls, there's not much in the way of good riding roads
down there.

That is more Harry's style but if I am going to the beach, I take my
boat.
We prefer deserted beaches to crowded beaches anyway, even if it is
full of girls.

Well, after all, the subject was riding. I'd stay away from any salt water on my motorcycle simply
to prevent corrosion.

I guess you won't be riding down the beach at Daytona in Bike Week.

If I rode to Daytona, I'd stay away from the beach. I wouldn't mind walking down the main drag
looking at the bikes though, and watching some of the races.

The main drag (A1A), pretty much is the beach. You are about 100 yards
from the water, behind a row of shops and such. For the purposes of
avoiding salt air, you might as well drive on the sand.
Just hose your scoot down before you leave and you will be fine. If it
was summer I would say, just ride around in the afternoon and let the
rain do it.