On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 15:48:39 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 07:43:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


Finally got vets.gov to recognize who I am. It was a little
frustrating because several times my attempt to register was kicked out
for some reason by a related registration requirement called "ID.me".
It asked all kinds of questions like what car loan I took out in the
last year along with a list of different vehicles. One answer was "none
of the above" which I checked. Another was what year one of my bank
credit cards was issued. Who the hell knows? It's not on the card like
some that say "member since XXXX". Anyway, I was finally able to answer
all the verification questions to their satisfaction and an ID.me
account was verified

Those sound like the questions asked by some credit outfits to get your
credit report. Takes a half
hour of research to answer the damn questions. I've had to go back and
look at tax returns from 29
years ago to get answers sometimes.

So, being formally registered, I went back to the Vet.gov site to apply
for the new veteran ID card. Turns out I don't need one. It states
that if you already have a VA health card (which I do) and/or a state
driver's license that has "Veteran" on it (which I also have) ... you
don't need to get the new card as either of the latter will qualify you
for any military discounts offered.

One thing is for sure. Dealing with the government hasn't changed in
the last 40-50 years. :-)

Just try getting into the DOD website. I've quit. They want a new umpteen
letter with a dozen rules
for a password, which you must change frequently. Finally I just said
hell with it. It's cool that
your state puts 'Veteran' on your license. Virginia doesn't.


Maybe it is the new ID requirement licenses. California DL does not meet
the requirements.

Ours seems to have everything on it, including the 'see through' picture along with the regular
picture. I think Virginia is just not that crazy about veterans. In many, if not most, places,
Veterans Day is a school holiday. Not here. Here, Martin Luther King did a lot more for this country
than any veterans did.

On 3/23/2018 12:21 PM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 15:48:39 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 07:43:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


Finally got vets.gov to recognize who I am. It was a little
frustrating because several times my attempt to register was kicked out
for some reason by a related registration requirement called "ID.me".
It asked all kinds of questions like what car loan I took out in the
last year along with a list of different vehicles. One answer was "none
of the above" which I checked. Another was what year one of my bank
credit cards was issued. Who the hell knows? It's not on the card like
some that say "member since XXXX". Anyway, I was finally able to answer
all the verification questions to their satisfaction and an ID.me
account was verified

Those sound like the questions asked by some credit outfits to get your
credit report. Takes a half
hour of research to answer the damn questions. I've had to go back and
look at tax returns from 29
years ago to get answers sometimes.

So, being formally registered, I went back to the Vet.gov site to apply
for the new veteran ID card. Turns out I don't need one. It states
that if you already have a VA health card (which I do) and/or a state
driver's license that has "Veteran" on it (which I also have) ... you
don't need to get the new card as either of the latter will qualify you
for any military discounts offered.

One thing is for sure. Dealing with the government hasn't changed in
the last 40-50 years. :-)

Just try getting into the DOD website. I've quit. They want a new umpteen
letter with a dozen rules
for a password, which you must change frequently. Finally I just said
hell with it. It's cool that
your state puts 'Veteran' on your license. Virginia doesn't.


Maybe it is the new ID requirement licenses. California DL does not meet
the requirements.

Ours seems to have everything on it, including the 'see through' picture along with the regular
picture. I think Virginia is just not that crazy about veterans. In many, if not most, places,
Veterans Day is a school holiday. Not here. Here, Martin Luther King did a lot more for this country
than any veterans did.


Strange since certain areas of Virginia are awash with active duty
military and veterans.

On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 12:47:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/23/2018 12:21 PM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 15:48:39 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 07:43:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


Finally got vets.gov to recognize who I am. It was a little
frustrating because several times my attempt to register was kicked out
for some reason by a related registration requirement called "ID.me".
It asked all kinds of questions like what car loan I took out in the
last year along with a list of different vehicles. One answer was "none
of the above" which I checked. Another was what year one of my bank
credit cards was issued. Who the hell knows? It's not on the card like
some that say "member since XXXX". Anyway, I was finally able to answer
all the verification questions to their satisfaction and an ID.me
account was verified

Those sound like the questions asked by some credit outfits to get your
credit report. Takes a half
hour of research to answer the damn questions. I've had to go back and
look at tax returns from 29
years ago to get answers sometimes.

So, being formally registered, I went back to the Vet.gov site to apply
for the new veteran ID card. Turns out I don't need one. It states
that if you already have a VA health card (which I do) and/or a state
driver's license that has "Veteran" on it (which I also have) ... you
don't need to get the new card as either of the latter will qualify you
for any military discounts offered.

One thing is for sure. Dealing with the government hasn't changed in
the last 40-50 years. :-)

Just try getting into the DOD website. I've quit. They want a new umpteen
letter with a dozen rules
for a password, which you must change frequently. Finally I just said
hell with it. It's cool that
your state puts 'Veteran' on your license. Virginia doesn't.


Maybe it is the new ID requirement licenses. California DL does not meet
the requirements.

Ours seems to have everything on it, including the 'see through' picture along with the regular
picture. I think Virginia is just not that crazy about veterans. In many, if not most, places,
Veterans Day is a school holiday. Not here. Here, Martin Luther King did a lot more for this country
than any veterans did.


Strange since certain areas of Virginia are awash with active duty
military and veterans.


Like I told Bill, Virginia has a separate Veterans ID card. Good for life, needs a DD 214 and $10.
Of course, those opposing voter ID's would consider that extremely onerous. :)

On Friday, March 23, 2018 at 1:46:37 PM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 12:47:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/23/2018 12:21 PM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 15:48:39 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 07:43:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


Finally got vets.gov to recognize who I am. It was a little
frustrating because several times my attempt to register was kicked out
for some reason by a related registration requirement called "ID.me".
It asked all kinds of questions like what car loan I took out in the
last year along with a list of different vehicles. One answer was "none
of the above" which I checked. Another was what year one of my bank
credit cards was issued. Who the hell knows? It's not on the card like
some that say "member since XXXX". Anyway, I was finally able to answer
all the verification questions to their satisfaction and an ID.me
account was verified

Those sound like the questions asked by some credit outfits to get your
credit report. Takes a half
hour of research to answer the damn questions. I've had to go back and
look at tax returns from 29
years ago to get answers sometimes.

So, being formally registered, I went back to the Vet.gov site to apply
for the new veteran ID card. Turns out I don't need one. It states
that if you already have a VA health card (which I do) and/or a state
driver's license that has "Veteran" on it (which I also have) ... you
don't need to get the new card as either of the latter will qualify you
for any military discounts offered.

One thing is for sure. Dealing with the government hasn't changed in
the last 40-50 years. :-)

Just try getting into the DOD website. I've quit. They want a new umpteen
letter with a dozen rules
for a password, which you must change frequently. Finally I just said
hell with it. It's cool that
your state puts 'Veteran' on your license. Virginia doesn't.


Maybe it is the new ID requirement licenses. California DL does not meet
the requirements.

Ours seems to have everything on it, including the 'see through' picture along with the regular
picture. I think Virginia is just not that crazy about veterans. In many, if not most, places,
Veterans Day is a school holiday. Not here. Here, Martin Luther King did a lot more for this country
than any veterans did.


Strange since certain areas of Virginia are awash with active duty
military and veterans.


Like I told Bill, Virginia has a separate Veterans ID card. Good for life, needs a DD 214 and $10.
Of course, those opposing voter ID's would consider that extremely onerous. :)

People that served are smart enough to figure out how to get an ID. It's those poor, unwashed Democratic voters that aren't smart enough that would be disenfranchised.

On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 12:21:25 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Maybe it is the new ID requirement licenses. California DL does not meet
the requirements.

Ours seems to have everything on it, including the 'see through' picture along with the regular
picture. I think Virginia is just not that crazy about veterans. In many, if not most, places,
Veterans Day is a school holiday. Not here. Here, Martin Luther King did a lot more for this country
than any veterans did.

It has to do with the "Real ID" law. That requires that you need
provable documents to establish your identify when you apply for a
license. Evidently an "undocumented" person can get a license in
California. I am surprised they let people on a plane with a Ca DL.

On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 12:21:25 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 15:48:39 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 07:43:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


Finally got vets.gov to recognize who I am. It was a little
frustrating because several times my attempt to register was kicked out
for some reason by a related registration requirement called "ID.me".
It asked all kinds of questions like what car loan I took out in the
last year along with a list of different vehicles. One answer was "none
of the above" which I checked. Another was what year one of my bank
credit cards was issued. Who the hell knows? It's not on the card like
some that say "member since XXXX". Anyway, I was finally able to answer
all the verification questions to their satisfaction and an ID.me
account was verified

Those sound like the questions asked by some credit outfits to get your
credit report. Takes a half
hour of research to answer the damn questions. I've had to go back and
look at tax returns from 29
years ago to get answers sometimes.

So, being formally registered, I went back to the Vet.gov site to apply
for the new veteran ID card. Turns out I don't need one. It states
that if you already have a VA health card (which I do) and/or a state
driver's license that has "Veteran" on it (which I also have) ... you
don't need to get the new card as either of the latter will qualify you
for any military discounts offered.

One thing is for sure. Dealing with the government hasn't changed in
the last 40-50 years. :-)

Just try getting into the DOD website. I've quit. They want a new umpteen
letter with a dozen rules
for a password, which you must change frequently. Finally I just said
hell with it. It's cool that
your state puts 'Veteran' on your license. Virginia doesn't.


Maybe it is the new ID requirement licenses. California DL does not meet
the requirements.

Ours seems to have everything on it, including the 'see through' picture along with the regular
picture. I think Virginia is just not that crazy about veterans. In many, if not most, places,
Veterans Day is a school holiday. Not here. Here, Martin Luther King did a lot more for this country
than any veterans did.

I am surprised Va is not more vet friendly with all of the military
presence you have there. I guess those people vote in their home
state.

On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 21:09:37 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 12:21:25 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 15:48:39 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 07:43:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


Finally got vets.gov to recognize who I am. It was a little
frustrating because several times my attempt to register was kicked out
for some reason by a related registration requirement called "ID.me".
It asked all kinds of questions like what car loan I took out in the
last year along with a list of different vehicles. One answer was "none
of the above" which I checked. Another was what year one of my bank
credit cards was issued. Who the hell knows? It's not on the card like
some that say "member since XXXX". Anyway, I was finally able to answer
all the verification questions to their satisfaction and an ID.me
account was verified

Those sound like the questions asked by some credit outfits to get your
credit report. Takes a half
hour of research to answer the damn questions. I've had to go back and
look at tax returns from 29
years ago to get answers sometimes.

So, being formally registered, I went back to the Vet.gov site to apply
for the new veteran ID card. Turns out I don't need one. It states
that if you already have a VA health card (which I do) and/or a state
driver's license that has "Veteran" on it (which I also have) ... you
don't need to get the new card as either of the latter will qualify you
for any military discounts offered.

One thing is for sure. Dealing with the government hasn't changed in
the last 40-50 years. :-)

Just try getting into the DOD website. I've quit. They want a new umpteen
letter with a dozen rules
for a password, which you must change frequently. Finally I just said
hell with it. It's cool that
your state puts 'Veteran' on your license. Virginia doesn't.


Maybe it is the new ID requirement licenses. California DL does not meet
the requirements.

Ours seems to have everything on it, including the 'see through' picture along with the regular
picture. I think Virginia is just not that crazy about veterans. In many, if not most, places,
Veterans Day is a school holiday. Not here. Here, Martin Luther King did a lot more for this country
than any veterans did.

I am surprised Va is not more vet friendly with all of the military
presence you have there. I guess those people vote in their home
state.

I added a comment yesterday. They provide a separate Veteran's ID, for $10 with a DD 214 as proof of
service.

On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 09:33:19 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 21:09:37 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 12:21:25 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 15:48:39 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 07:43:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


Finally got vets.gov to recognize who I am. It was a little
frustrating because several times my attempt to register was kicked out
for some reason by a related registration requirement called "ID.me".
It asked all kinds of questions like what car loan I took out in the
last year along with a list of different vehicles. One answer was "none
of the above" which I checked. Another was what year one of my bank
credit cards was issued. Who the hell knows? It's not on the card like
some that say "member since XXXX". Anyway, I was finally able to answer
all the verification questions to their satisfaction and an ID.me
account was verified

Those sound like the questions asked by some credit outfits to get your
credit report. Takes a half
hour of research to answer the damn questions. I've had to go back and
look at tax returns from 29
years ago to get answers sometimes.

So, being formally registered, I went back to the Vet.gov site to apply
for the new veteran ID card. Turns out I don't need one. It states
that if you already have a VA health card (which I do) and/or a state
driver's license that has "Veteran" on it (which I also have) ... you
don't need to get the new card as either of the latter will qualify you
for any military discounts offered.

One thing is for sure. Dealing with the government hasn't changed in
the last 40-50 years. :-)

Just try getting into the DOD website. I've quit. They want a new umpteen
letter with a dozen rules
for a password, which you must change frequently. Finally I just said
hell with it. It's cool that
your state puts 'Veteran' on your license. Virginia doesn't.


Maybe it is the new ID requirement licenses. California DL does not meet
the requirements.

Ours seems to have everything on it, including the 'see through' picture along with the regular
picture. I think Virginia is just not that crazy about veterans. In many, if not most, places,
Veterans Day is a school holiday. Not here. Here, Martin Luther King did a lot more for this country
than any veterans did.

I am surprised Va is not more vet friendly with all of the military
presence you have there. I guess those people vote in their home
state.

I added a comment yesterday. They provide a separate Veteran's ID, for $10 with a DD 214 as proof of
service.

I saw that after my post. You already have acceptable ID with your VA
card and now the VA will give you one for free so the $10 card may not
be a big seller. Putting it right on your license is a better deal,
one less card in your wallet.

On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 13:25:32 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 09:33:19 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 21:09:37 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 12:21:25 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 15:48:39 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 07:43:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


Finally got vets.gov to recognize who I am. It was a little
frustrating because several times my attempt to register was kicked out
for some reason by a related registration requirement called "ID.me".
It asked all kinds of questions like what car loan I took out in the
last year along with a list of different vehicles. One answer was "none
of the above" which I checked. Another was what year one of my bank
credit cards was issued. Who the hell knows? It's not on the card like
some that say "member since XXXX". Anyway, I was finally able to answer
all the verification questions to their satisfaction and an ID.me
account was verified

Those sound like the questions asked by some credit outfits to get your
credit report. Takes a half
hour of research to answer the damn questions. I've had to go back and
look at tax returns from 29
years ago to get answers sometimes.

So, being formally registered, I went back to the Vet.gov site to apply
for the new veteran ID card. Turns out I don't need one. It states
that if you already have a VA health card (which I do) and/or a state
driver's license that has "Veteran" on it (which I also have) ... you
don't need to get the new card as either of the latter will qualify you
for any military discounts offered.

One thing is for sure. Dealing with the government hasn't changed in
the last 40-50 years. :-)

Just try getting into the DOD website. I've quit. They want a new umpteen
letter with a dozen rules
for a password, which you must change frequently. Finally I just said
hell with it. It's cool that
your state puts 'Veteran' on your license. Virginia doesn't.


Maybe it is the new ID requirement licenses. California DL does not meet
the requirements.

Ours seems to have everything on it, including the 'see through' picture along with the regular
picture. I think Virginia is just not that crazy about veterans. In many, if not most, places,
Veterans Day is a school holiday. Not here. Here, Martin Luther King did a lot more for this country
than any veterans did.

I am surprised Va is not more vet friendly with all of the military
presence you have there. I guess those people vote in their home
state.

I added a comment yesterday. They provide a separate Veteran's ID, for $10 with a DD 214 as proof of
service.

I saw that after my post. You already have acceptable ID with your VA
card and now the VA will give you one for free so the $10 card may not
be a big seller. Putting it right on your license is a better deal,
one less card in your wallet.

I've got the VA card, but never use it. I showed it once at the VA Hospital downtown, got my
physical there, got my hearing aids, and got my 'disability' rating. Once all that was in the
computer, I've only carried my retired ID card. Can't get on a military installation any more
without that, unless you're willing to go through a bunch of crap.

On 3/24/2018 2:31 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 13:25:32 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 09:33:19 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 21:09:37 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 12:21:25 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 15:48:39 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 07:43:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


Finally got vets.gov to recognize who I am. It was a little
frustrating because several times my attempt to register was kicked out
for some reason by a related registration requirement called "ID.me".
It asked all kinds of questions like what car loan I took out in the
last year along with a list of different vehicles. One answer was "none
of the above" which I checked. Another was what year one of my bank
credit cards was issued. Who the hell knows? It's not on the card like
some that say "member since XXXX". Anyway, I was finally able to answer
all the verification questions to their satisfaction and an ID.me
account was verified

Those sound like the questions asked by some credit outfits to get your
credit report. Takes a half
hour of research to answer the damn questions. I've had to go back and
look at tax returns from 29
years ago to get answers sometimes.

So, being formally registered, I went back to the Vet.gov site to apply
for the new veteran ID card. Turns out I don't need one. It states
that if you already have a VA health card (which I do) and/or a state
driver's license that has "Veteran" on it (which I also have) ... you
don't need to get the new card as either of the latter will qualify you
for any military discounts offered.

One thing is for sure. Dealing with the government hasn't changed in
the last 40-50 years. :-)

Just try getting into the DOD website. I've quit. They want a new umpteen
letter with a dozen rules
for a password, which you must change frequently. Finally I just said
hell with it. It's cool that
your state puts 'Veteran' on your license. Virginia doesn't.


Maybe it is the new ID requirement licenses. California DL does not meet
the requirements.

Ours seems to have everything on it, including the 'see through' picture along with the regular
picture. I think Virginia is just not that crazy about veterans. In many, if not most, places,
Veterans Day is a school holiday. Not here. Here, Martin Luther King did a lot more for this country
than any veterans did.

I am surprised Va is not more vet friendly with all of the military
presence you have there. I guess those people vote in their home
state.

I added a comment yesterday. They provide a separate Veteran's ID, for $10 with a DD 214 as proof of
service.

I saw that after my post. You already have acceptable ID with your VA
card and now the VA will give you one for free so the $10 card may not
be a big seller. Putting it right on your license is a better deal,
one less card in your wallet.

I've got the VA card, but never use it. I showed it once at the VA Hospital downtown, got my
physical there, got my hearing aids, and got my 'disability' rating. Once all that was in the
computer, I've only carried my retired ID card. Can't get on a military installation any more
without that, unless you're willing to go through a bunch of crap.



I can't go on a military installation, yet I receive VA health care and
can buy from the on-line exchanges.

Doesn't matter though. My grandson takes my daughter shopping at the
exchanges he can go to. It's not like the old days. As you've posted,
the prices aren't that great anymore.